President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[Monker]

Trump is different than Hillary because he could start WWIII because Putin tweeted that Trump is an asshole.

And, of course, he has much smaller hands.

Like Putin's opinion of Obama is much better then that. I wouldn't be surprised if Putin thinks Obama is an idiot. If one has a choice of being considered an idiot or an asshole, I think I would take being considered an asshole. So much for the Putin Trump connection the media was so desperately trying to make.

Point is, Obama would ignore it...and has ignored it. Why would any sane leader care what a communist dictator things of his leadership? Trump would care because he's a nut. Trump would go all psycho and say, "I don't need no big hands to press this big red button that says, "Nuke Russia," on it. Watch..."

And, that would be the end of that....for everybody. And, the VERY SCARY thing is that is the reality of the situation.

And, Putin likes Trump....Trump's campaign manager used to advise the President of Ukraine, who now advises Putin. So, going by the usual "guilt by association" that so many do with Obama.....that makes Trump a communist. See, there really is a connection there. Trump is the one who invited the media to look for it because of his loony comments asking for Russia to hack into Clinton's Emails.

Inviting Russia to spy on US citizens, implying a group of people should murder Clinton if she wins. This guy is close to being traitor. Maybe Snowdon realized this and that is what his bullshit message meant. "It's time." It's time for Trump to be a complete traitor and join Snowdon as his bunkmate..

[Monker]

Trump's different then Hillary in that aspect. He's going to try and change it. Hillary will just keep Bama's ball rolling.

Trump is different than Hillary because he could start WWIII because Putin tweeted that Trump is an asshole.

And, of course, he has much smaller hands.

Right Monker. Unlike Obama, Trump wil need a congress.

Yeah, congress is going to pass a bill to build a border wall. Congress is going to pass a bill to ban all Muslims. Yeah, right. After Trump's wacky campaign, the only thing congress will pass with Trump as President is a vote of no confidence in the President.

Besides, he can't sign anything into law anyway....not with those small hands.

[Monker]

Trump boasts about his track record, clinton dodges hers.

LOL...

Both Clintons, and others, went on and on about Clinton's record of public service in the convention.

On the other hand, Trump is going to have to go to court to face fraud charges against Trump University. He refuses to release his tax returns, which is unprecedented in modern campaigns...probably because his net worth is FAR lower than he claims....and he probably paid NO taxes. Trump wine - failed. Trump Steaks - failed. Trumps gambling adventures - failed. What kind of skilled businessman FAILS AT A CASINO? He's and idiot. His swag is made out of country. His companies hire foreign workers. Trump dodges all of this crap - and more. The 'news' has not had a real in-depth report on ANY of it. But, there has been a thousand Benghazi investigation and NONE of them have come up with shit. How about a federal investigation into Trump U? How about eight of them?

Trump WON his election

No, the election is not until NOVEMBER. He won his nomination.

Both Clintons have a track record of selling favors to the highest bidders.

And, Trump is on record saying he has been the highest bidder, in your words. He also bought out the AG's of Texas and Florida so he would not face fraud charges. So, despite your lofty fantasy, Trump is just as corrupt as any politician in Washington. You simply refuse to see it, won't admit it, or are too mentally dim to recognize it.

[Monker]

Oh good grief Monker, Donald is not going to start a war with Russia or anybody else, unless they need an ass kicking, and if that's the case, they will get an ass kicking. Stop with this nonsense.

All it will take is somebody bringing up his tiny baby-like hands. "Well, I tried to shake the President's hand but I couldn't do it because his hands were too small."

[Monker]

Seriously,what the fuck has this shit come to?

There's a simple answer to that. Your government has been stolen from you.

And, after Trump loses, he'll finally shut the hell up and give what is left of it back.

[Jana]

Priceless. The never cover of Time Magazine's article on Trump.

[Memorex]

I don't understand the meltdown comments. His rally attendance and social media far eclipse Hillary. He's climbing back up in the polls pretty rapidly in some cases, not in others. He's got huge support from a lot of folks.

I think if you listen to a lot of CNN and MSNBC, it seems like it's over for him. But if you just look at some of the independent polls and the size of the crowds and the social media numbers, he is far out-performing her. All this with the massively lopsided coverage and from what I understand, advertising expenditure of zero dollars to Hillary's 100+ million. No TV ads for Trump so far, or very little. I haven't seen one.

I can understand asking him to step aside and even saying the party is now wholly changed because of who he is and how he acts. But I see absolute no sane person that thinks he should step down because he is in meltdown. The meltdown seems to be a lot of people saying never trump. Not the actual support from the people that he seems to have.

Here's an article on the ad money. CRAZY.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/20/politics/ ... ision-ads/

He's -3 with Gallup and -1.5 with LA Times. I'd say for all the negative press (and it is massive) and spending no money, it's kind of mind boggling how unpopular Hillary must be for him to be this close.

I just don't get meltdown from that.

[JBlake]

Priceless. The never cover of Time Magazine's article on Trump.

Hahaha, Thanks for the laugh. Yeah, Time magazine, It's layout resembles a high school year book or that Dynamite magazine we used to order in elementary school

Speaking of meltdowns, looks like the democraps are stressing over the potential release of more hacked emails. So if Democraps weren't such a bunch of criminals and conducting such corrupt behind closed door dealings, there wouldn't be anything to worry about. Hahahaha, yeah they deny everything until cold hard proof hits them in the face, and then they resort to deflecting. So after this new batch of emails are released are the liberals and democraps going to run a story this time about Trump eating pizza with a fork and knife?

[Boomchild]

Point is, Obama would ignore it...and has ignored it. Why would any sane leader care what a communist dictator things of his leadership? Trump would care because he's a nut. Trump would go all psycho and say, "I don't need no big hands to press this big red button that says, "Nuke Russia," on it. Watch..."

And, that would be the end of that....for everybody. And, the VERY SCARY thing is that is the reality of the situation.

I'm not biting on the "doom and gloom" theories being bantered about IF Trump wins the election. What surprises me is how so many people fail to recognize the bigger picture. Which is that whomever is elected the next POSTUS isn't going to solve our long term problems. The time for politics to solve our country's ills is over.

[Boomchild]

And, after Trump loses, he'll finally shut the hell up and give what is left of it back.

LOL. If you want to take that position, then he stole a government that was already stolen long ago from the American citizens. So essentially, he would just be turning it back over to the original thieves.

[JBlake]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqYJRc0TJkQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdMWpvvnk2Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBdqxMUQByU

[Monker]

Trump: Obama is the founder of ISIS.
Media: Gasp, look what Trump is saying now, let's hammer him on this, it's outrageous to say Obama is the founder of a terrorist group.
Trump: Obama is the founder of ISIS.

That is not what Trump said. He said, "Obama founded ISIS." That is a point Trump emphatically made clear earlier today when he said, "You all misunderstood me AGAIN. If I wanted to accuse Obama of starting ISIS, I would have said 'Obama started ISIS.' I didn't say that. I said 'Obama FOUNDED ISIS.' Like, for example, I couldn't find my hat this morning. Then I put my hand on top of my head and I founded my hat. I really shouldn't have to explain everything to you guys. It's embarrassing."

[Monker]

Trump: Obama is the founder of ISIS.
Media: Gasp, look what Trump is saying now, let's hammer him on this, it's outrageous to say Obama is the founder of a terrorist group.
Trump: Obama is the founder of ISIS.

That is not what Trump said. He said, "Obama founded ISIS." That is a point Trump emphatically made clear earlier today when he said, "You all misunderstood me AGAIN. If I wanted to accuse Obama of starting ISIS, I would have said 'Obama started ISIS.' I didn't say that. I said 'Obama FOUNDED ISIS.' Like, for example, I couldn't find my hat this morning. Then I put my hand on top of my head and I founded my hat. I really shouldn't have to explain everything to you guys. It's embarrassing."

Kayleigh McEnany just said on CNN, "Donald Trump was obviously making a joke about ISIS. I mean, Obama is just going about his business in Iraq and ISIS just sprung up out of nowhere...and Obama founded them. You people just don't understand Donald Trump and his sense of humor."

[Monker]

OH, I know what that will be. The source of those "special" brownies Trump and his followers are eating will become public knowledge...and that will explain a LOT of things.

BOOM! I think we know the October Surprise.

http://endingthefed.com/fbi-insider-lea ... nment.html

[Monker]

Obama says we are training ISIL..sometimes the truth comes out.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/08 ... ning-isil/

Sometimes you are too much Monker. Read the Judicial Watch link I posted and weep in your Wheaties.

I don't care. Reagan/Bush trained and armed Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein.

As I have said many times, we shouldn't be over there at all...and no "side" is the right side to support. Take all of that money we are spending in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Lybia, etc, and invest it in alternatives to oil to we can tell them all to deal with their own issues. Tending to our addiction to oil is a national security issue....it always has been.

[Monker]

Trump: Obama is the founder of ISIS.
Media: Gasp, look what Trump is saying now, let's hammer him on this, it's outrageous to say Obama is the founder of a terrorist group.
Trump: Obama is the founder of ISIS.

That is not what Trump said. He said, "Obama founded ISIS." That is a point Trump emphatically made clear earlier today when he said, "You all misunderstood me AGAIN. If I wanted to accuse Obama of starting ISIS, I would have said 'Obama started ISIS.' I didn't say that. I said 'Obama FOUNDED ISIS.' Like, for example, I couldn't find my hat this morning. Then I put my hand on top of my head and I founded my hat. I really shouldn't have to explain everything to you guys. It's embarrassing."

And what did I just post, "Obama founded ISIS." Can you read? For gods sake this is getting ridiculous. Did you play a lot of twister as a kid or what, Dad dropped you on your head? What?

You posted, "Trump: Obama is the founder of ISIS."

You did not post, "Trump: Obama founded ISIS."

I did a search on the page and I am the only person who used Trump's actual words, "Obama founded ISIS." I didn't finded it anywhere else on the page.

[Monker]

Well the problem is that now they are over here, and all over Europe, because of of silly bleeding hearts that you support. Time to kick ass and delete names.Trump will put the fear of God in these people and send them back home if they don't behave.

Whatever. If you think Muslims have not been in this country for around 200yrs, then you are a complete tool.
Muslims have been in Europe for over 2000yrs. Go watch 300. And, Robin Hood, which was made before people like you allowed yourself to get all paranoid. Though, I do prefer the , "Robin of Sherwood" series...which first introduced a Muslim into the gang. And, then there is "Thirteenth Warrior" (aka: Eaters of the Dead)...also a good movie. Of course there is also Indiana Jones. All made before hate mongers like you and Trump influenced our culture enough to where Muslims became demons like Xerces in 300. But, whatever.

If Muslims were the way you and Trump claim they are, we would be fucked. There are 1.6 BILLION Muslims in the world. That's one hell of an army of Immortals willing to do anything to kill westerners and meet Allah. You just keep inventing your own reality and believing in Trump's strange world of fantasy as well....and because you all are insane, we'll have Clinton as President and continue on as we have been for the last seven years.

[Monker]

You are a big nit picker. Stop the stupid parsing and stick to English.

Trump makes shit up all the time. Quote him properly so when he makes excuses for what he REALLY meant, you at least have his bullshit words correct.

[Boomchild]

As I have said many times, we shouldn't be over there at all...and no "side" is the right side to support. Take all of that money we are spending in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Lybia, etc, and invest it in alternatives to oil to we can tell them all to deal with their own issues. Tending to our addiction to oil is a national security issue....it always has been.

In order to get anywhere near that you would first have to get rid of all the politicians that are bought and paid for by the oil industry. Which I don't see happening.

[Boomchild]

Well the problem is that now they are over here, and all over Europe, because of of silly bleeding hearts that you support. Time to kick ass and delete names.Trump will put the fear of God in these people and send them back home if they don't behave.

That's only if he creates a plan that will actually combat them. A lot of what I hear from him is "rebuilding our military". Well, if he means by investing in things used for conventional warfare I don't think that is going to do it. One of the main reasons we have done so poorly in combating this type of threat is due to the fact that we have been using mainly a conventional warfare approach.

[Boomchild]

Sorry Monker..

Multiple FBI investigations are underway involving potential corruption charges against the Clinton Foundation, according to a former senior law enforcement official.

The investigation centers on New York City, where the Clinton Foundation has its main offices, according to the former official who has direct knowledge of the activities.

Prosecutorial support will come from various U.S. Attorneys Offices — a major departure from other centralized FBI investigations.

The New York-based probe is being led by Preet Bharara, the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York. Bharara’s prosecutorial aggressiveness has resulted in a large number of convictions of banks, hedge funds and Wall Street insiders.

The official said involvement of the U.S. Attorney’s Office in the Southern District of New York “would be seen by agents as a positive development as prosecutors there are generally thought to be more aggressive than the career lawyers within the DOJ.”

Bharara’s government biography notes that he, “has applied renewed focus on large-scale, sophisticated financial frauds by creating two new units – the Complex Frauds Unit and the complementary Civil Frauds Unit.

“The Civil Frauds Unit has collected close to $500 million in settlements since its inception, including multi-million dollar settlements with Deutsche Bank and CitiMortgage for faulty lending practices and other fraudulent conduct.”

Nicholas Biase, a spokesman for Bharara, said he would “decline comment.” Similarly, FBI spokeswoman Samantha Shero said, “we do not have a comment on investigative activity.

It's coming and your grandkids will read about it in history books...tell them the truth.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/11/exclu ... -underway/

Do you actually believe that this administration is going to let anything stick to Hillary? Especially after that FBI dog and pony show email "investigation". The whole momentum and progression of the progressive liberal agenda rests on her getting into office. My opinion is they will do ANYTHING to ensure that happens.

[JBlake]

Trump: Obama is the founder of ISIS.
Media: Gasp, look what Trump is saying now, let's hammer him on this, it's outrageous to say Obama is the founder of a terrorist group.
Trump: Obama is the founder of ISIS.

That is not what Trump said. He said, "Obama founded ISIS." That is a point Trump emphatically made clear earlier today when he said, "You all misunderstood me AGAIN. If I wanted to accuse Obama of starting ISIS, I would have said 'Obama started ISIS.' I didn't say that. I said 'Obama FOUNDED ISIS.' Like, for example, I couldn't find my hat this morning. Then I put my hand on top of my head and I founded my hat. I really shouldn't have to explain everything to you guys. It's embarrassing."

And what did I just post, "Obama founded ISIS." Can you read? For gods sake this is getting ridiculous. Did you play a lot of twister as a kid or what, Dad dropped you on your head? What?

Drug/substance use and abuse is more like it.

[JBlake]

Too bad this didn't happen while she was coming out of the plane. I would have thoroughly enjoyed watching the fucking bitch tumble all the way down to the tarmac.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwuEPoeZxzg

[Boomchild]

Loretta Lynch is not the be all and end all to ruin someone's life. Plenty of real American law enforcement types can get to the bottom of this crap.

Except you have the most powerful political office and justice department in the land to deal with. Based on who is in control, I doubt things done by lower offices or agencies will go anywhere. As I said they will do ANYTHING to protect their candidate because they are at a critical point in their agenda. Just look at the people that have been dropping\found dead lately.

[Jana]

KC this appears to be something else, it's breaking news on all the network websites, actually scary and funny at the same time, hope Guccifer or some other entity didn't find the football codes. This shit is unreal. There is great folly or real danger here.

I'm reading about it all now. This is the tail end of a 40 year project by Soros Open World Society. Scarey stuff really. The Media, almost all of Washington and many State Governments involved. It amazed me how they took control of New York and almost bank rupted the city by over loading their welfare systems. Cloward and Piven. Many books about it over the years. Hillary is mostly spear heading it now, and if she wins, by 2020, they meet their target date. A one world global society under control by the worlds largest banks and billionaires. I remember when Beck lost his show on Fox when he was exposing Soros and Soros got his sponsors to pull out. He brought down ACCORN for awhile and got Van Jones exposed and fired before they got him. There are very heavy things on the line right now. By the way, if you read what I posted about the FBI agent outting Hillary, he said she wants a war with Putin. He doesn't want it, so that's why he's putting her 100% hacked email server on Wikileaks. It all sounds like a book. I wish it was, but everything looks like it's lining up to me. Quite frightning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puLL0Eh5HZc

Glenn Beck? Oh, Dear God. The man is a lunatic. Someone needs to put a straight jacket on him. He calls Trump Tin Foil Hat Don. It takes one to know one.

[Boomchild]

KC this appears to be something else, it's breaking news on all the network websites, actually scary and funny at the same time, hope Guccifer or some other entity didn't find the football codes. This shit is unreal. There is great folly or real danger here.

I'm reading about it all now. This is the tail end of a 40 year project by Soros Open World Society. Scarey stuff really. The Media, almost all of Washington and many State Governments involved. It amazed me how they took control of New York and almost bank rupted the city by over loading their welfare systems. Cloward and Piven. Many books about it over the years. Hillary is mostly spear heading it now, and if she wins, by 2020, they meet their target date. A one world global society under control by the worlds largest banks and billionaires. I remember when Beck lost his show on Fox when he was exposing Soros and Soros got his sponsors to pull out. He brought down ACCORN for awhile and got Van Jones exposed and fired before they got him. There are very heavy things on the line right now. By the way, if you read what I posted about the FBI agent outting Hillary, he said she wants a war with Putin. He doesn't want it, so that's why he's putting her 100% hacked email server on Wikileaks. It all sounds like a book. I wish it was, but everything looks like it's lining up to me. Quite frightning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puLL0Eh5HZc

And if you talked about this kind of stuff not so long ago, you would be considered a tin foil hat wearing conspiracy follower.

[Memorex]

It's pretty crazy how blatant our politicians and their people have become. But I guess when you are protected by the media, there are no worries.

https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/20280

[Boomchild]

Maybe Trump will be the only one running.

https://pjmedia.com/diaryofamadvoter/20 ... -surprise/

Who wants to bet that the NY U.S. attorney mentioned in this article will meet some kind of untimely death?

[Monker]

Maybe Trump will be the only one running.

https://pjmedia.com/diaryofamadvoter/20 ... -surprise/

Billy boy got 43% in 1992' and 49% in 1996, do any of the libs here really think Hill can do better than that? I surely do not. Trump is going to kick her ass and I for one cannot wait for the debates.

Both elections had Ross Perot running. This election has both Libertarian and Green parties getting a significant amount of the vote. So, Clinton hitting 43% is enough to win the election...how close would depend on how well the third parties do. 49% is enough to blow Trump off the map. She will probably be somewhere in between, maybe 47%, while Trump is in the high 30's to low 40's.

He has no chance of winning - never has. The fact that he, and you guys, are already making up conspiracy theories is very telling. He is losing nationally, and in almost every swing state...very badly in some.

Trump's idea of debating is to simply demean his opponent with silly "Little Marco" or "Lyin' Ted". What Trump the Tyrant doesn't understand is that may work for the nomination, but it is not going to work for the election. Especially now that HE (not Clinton') has made his own temperament and sanity an issue.

[Monker]

Two New York Times reporters just got nailed fabricating stories about Trumps people being unhappy, leaving, he's a foul tempered ego driven jerk, it's falling apart, ect. Of course you won't find this on CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, ect. Trump is talking about if he wins, pulling their licenses as reporters.

When the candidate has to have the chairman of his party come out on one of his rallies and say that everything is fine...Well, everything is obviously NOT fine. The Trump campaign has been a train wreck since the conventions....and everybody knows it, or is in completely denial of just how horrible of a candidate you nominated.