President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[Memorex]

Dude, you are suggesting that the SoS should not have meetings with foreign leaders and such because it creates a conflict of interest. If she can't do that, she can't do her job.

As for the donations, to prove some type of corruption, it's not enough to simply point out a conflict of interest....you have to prove that it bought some type of influence. I have not seen that part the equation. In the equation of "donations to the Clinton foundation = corruption".....all anybody focuses on is the donation. That is bullshit. Find the corruption, and then show it was rooted at the Clinton Foundation.

Then there is this suggestion of : "donation to the Clinton Foundation = money in Clinton's pocket"

I have seen no evidence of that, either. If the name of this organization were changed to the "Red Cross" and Bill was CEO, or whatever...I seriously doubt these accusation would be out there. These accusations are basically saying Bill and Hillary are stealing from the foundation....or the foundation is giving money to the Clonton's. Neither of which is true.

Ok. http://nypost.com/2016/08/11/hillary-pl ... on-donors/

[JBlake]

Liberal press is really worried about this....

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The foundation started by Hillary Clinton and former President Bill Clinton should shut down despite its good work, two major newspapers said in editorials on Wednesday, calling for its closure to avoid perceptions of "pay-for-play" amid the U.S. presidential campaign as critics step up their attacks over the issue.

Despite plans announced earlier this week to reorganize the foundation if Hillary Clinton wins the White House in November, USA Today said the global charity must close for the Democratic presidential candidate to avoid any appearance of unethical ties.

"The only way to eliminate the odor surrounding the foundation is to wind it down and put it in mothballs, starting today, and transfer its important charitable work to another large American charity such as the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation," the paper's editorial board wrote.

The Washington Post said in its editorial that the planned steps unveiled on Monday to rename the foundation, end foreign and corporate donations and have Bill Clinton resign from the board should have happened sooner - before his wife served as secretary of state - and still fall short.

The liberal press doesn't worry. It just simply lies more and spins harder.

[Memorex]

Just Sayin'

http://www.wnd.com/files/2015/10/Webb-H ... linton.jpg

[JBlake]

Did you ever see photos of Johnson's or Carters daughters? Truth be told, Kennedy's isn't all that.

No I can't say that I ever did, perhaps because they aren't worth 15+ Million just because of who their parents are with a pay to play money laundering foundation. I saw Trump's daughter though, wow what a hottie and just as intelligent. How rare is that, hot chick who's actually intelligent? Most chicks that are hot are dingbats, I think it's because they killed off too many brain cells from all the years of inhaling finger nail polish/remover. I admit, most hot chicks these days are flaming liberal democrat vomits. Why is it most hot chicks these days are? Like they say, there is a good side to every bad thing. They are politically defective but they sure do look cute/hot.

[Memorex]

Dude, you are suggesting that the SoS should not have meetings with foreign leaders and such because it creates a conflict of interest. If she can't do that, she can't do her job.

As for the donations, to prove some type of corruption, it's not enough to simply point out a conflict of interest....you have to prove that it bought some type of influence. I have not seen that part the equation. In the equation of "donations to the Clinton foundation = corruption".....all anybody focuses on is the donation. That is bullshit. Find the corruption, and then show it was rooted at the Clinton Foundation.

Then there is this suggestion of : "donation to the Clinton Foundation = money in Clinton's pocket"

I have seen no evidence of that, either. If the name of this organization were changed to the "Red Cross" and Bill was CEO, or whatever...I seriously doubt these accusation would be out there. These accusations are basically saying Bill and Hillary are stealing from the foundation....or the foundation is giving money to the Clonton's. Neither of which is true.

Ok. http://nypost.com/2016/08/11/hillary-pl ... on-donors/

Monker logic: Just because there is semen on the dress doesn't mean there was sex.

Bill Clinton: "Damn, why didn't I think of pickles?"

[Boomchild]

I like this one because it's from liberal Yahoo.

http://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/milli ... 00521.html

Things that make you go Hmmmm.......

[Memorex]

After over two decades in the heart of America's spotlight, Hillary Clinton is still an unknown quantity for most Americans. That's thanks to one factor and one factor only: the love and worship of the mainstream media.

Over the weekend, no less than six terrible stories broke that would have crippled anyone else's campaign. First, we learned that Clinton aide and confidante Huma Abedin acted as assistant editor on the radical Journal of Muslim Minority Affairs, where she greenlit pieces that stated that "pushing (mothers) out into the open labor market is a clear demonstration of a lack of respect of womanhood and motherhood," among other things.

Next, we found out that Clinton had blamed former Secretary of State Colin Powell for giving her the idea to set up a private email server at a dinner party, and that Powell not only denied giving her the idea but also denied ever having a dinner conversation with her on the topic. Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, who Clinton claimed was present for the conversation, has also denied the story.

Then we discovered that the Clinton State Department oversaw some $6 billion in mismanagement, fraud and incompetence.

Meanwhile, it was revealed that Clinton's pay-for-play -- Clinton Foundation donations in exchange for access to the State Department -- ran deeper than originally thought.

And we learned that the FBI and Justice Department are investigating the Podesta Group -- co-founded by Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta -- over its ties with former Ukrainian President and Vladimir Putin ally Viktor Yanukovych.

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Finally, we found out that the FBI uncovered some 15,000 emails that Clinton failed to disclose to the State Department. Presumably, they do not all concern yoga and Chelsea Clinton's wedding plans.

So, what was the media's response to this tidal wave of incompetence and corruption?

They focused on the Trump campaign's internal mess, naturally. That's what they always do.

[Memorex]

:?

She nicknamed that stool "American People".

[Boomchild]

Anyone notice how well Obama's diplomacy plan with Iran is going? Guess it's time for another skid of money to be delivered to them.

[Boomchild]

The Democratic Dictionary....

[JBlake]

I often wonder if the Clinton Machine owns funeral homes.

Things continue to get more odd by the day with Julian Assange. Just yesterday it was reported that an attempted assassination may have been stopped as a man jump the fence when Julian Assange stays, but just a few days prior to that, Assange’s lawyer was killed.

The report says it was a suicide, but WikiLeaks confirms it was NOT a suicide.

They probably own a lot of land and a wood chipper/a boat and crab pots. The Clinton's are the Saddam Hussein's or the Kim Dynasty of America. Can you just imagine if the Clinton's had a few sons? They'd be the Uday and Qusay of America. Imagine how many women they'd a raped by now. Chip off the ol Billy block. It's now the time in history America has it's own shitty and corrupt Dynasty. The Clinton Crime Clan Dynasty.

[Boomchild]

I often wonder if the Clinton Machine owns funeral homes.

Things continue to get more odd by the day with Julian Assange. Just yesterday it was reported that an attempted assassination may have been stopped as a man jump the fence when Julian Assange stays, but just a few days prior to that, Assange’s lawyer was killed.

The report says it was a suicide, but WikiLeaks confirms it was NOT a suicide.

Not sure if you are talking about the same person but I had heard that someone was caught climbing the outside of the embassy building where Assange is held up. The report was that it was an attempted robbery. I'm sure it's quite common that criminals pick those kind of places to rob.

[Boomchild]

You forgot the part where they take a illegal tax deduction, and the IRS could care less.

The bigger issue with them and their "foundation" is that they were never approved as a non-profit to conduct the types of "charitable" works the "foundation" has been conducting. Especially, the international work. Since it has NEVER received an audit, I guess the federal government is not aware of what they are doing.

[JBlake]

I often wonder if the Clinton Machine owns funeral homes.

Things continue to get more odd by the day with Julian Assange. Just yesterday it was reported that an attempted assassination may have been stopped as a man jump the fence when Julian Assange stays, but just a few days prior to that, Assange’s lawyer was killed.

The report says it was a suicide, but WikiLeaks confirms it was NOT a suicide.

Not sure if you are talking about the same person but I had heard that someone was caught climbing the outside of the embassy building where Assange is held up. The report was that it was an attempted robbery. I'm sure it's quite common that criminals pick those kind of places to rob.

It's just someone who pledged alliance to the Clinton Crime Clan is all.

Amazing how we only can get US government transparency through way of a guy named Assange. If it wasn't for him, we'd not even know half the shit that's going on with our own politicians. WTF!

[Boomchild]

Just the other day I was watching an interview with Gary Byrne, a former secret service agent assigned to the Clintons. He had some pretty interesting stuff to say. The one common thread that ran through what he had to say is that they definitely think that they are above all the rules. That rules do not apply to them. The other thing I thought was very interesting was his recanting of a conversation he had with a sheriff in Arkansas prior to Bill running for POTUS. He said that he commented to this sheriff he couldn't see how someone with Bill's scandalous past could ever get elected to POTUS. The sheriff responded by saying that they (Bill\Hillary) have this uncanny way of being able to take crap and turn it into gold for themselves. The one funny story he mentioned was that they wanted to replace the entire phone system in the White House when Bill was POTUS and were shocked when administration staff was asking how it was going to be paid for. To put this into context the White House consists of several buildings and you're talking about thousands of phones and a complex computer system that controls it.

The other really interesting part was his discussion about the similarities between Bill's actions during the "Black Hawk Down" incident and Hillary's "Benghazi" incident. He explained that the BHD situation could have been avoided if Bill had approved the request for armored vehicles and heavy air cover the military was requesting for the mission. He directly heard a conversation between Bill and a staff person where they were discussing the request and they both agreed this equipment was "too military" for the operation. Then you have the similar events where Hillary ignored the repeated requests for additional security for the embassy in Benghazi as well as the refusal to use military assets available in an attempt to rescue those at the embassy. He said that even he was surprised how long they were able to hold off their attackers with what little they had to defend themselves.

[Boomchild]

[Boomchild]

[Memorex]

The NFL is trying it's hardest to bury the Kap story. Moderators all over the net are deleting threads and comments. Obviously, they do not want this to catch on. Kap is being radicalized before our very eyes from his woman (what is it with men these days) and I am sure they'd rather not see many players across the league join in.

NBC news aired a segment on black on black violence in Chicago, then swept it away as if it wasn't part of their broadcast.

http://regated.com/2016/08/caught-nbc-d ... exclusive/

I don't understand why it is so hard for politicians and the media to just simply talk about the reality of everything. Yes, many many black people are getting killed by each other in the inner cities. Let's discuss. A spoiled little football player is being radicalized for all to see. Let's discuss. All this manipulation is just so thoroughly disgusting and dirty and gross.

[Boomchild]

The NFL is trying it's hardest to bury the Kap story. Moderators all over the net are deleting threads and comments. Obviously, they do not want this to catch on. Kap is being radicalized before our very eyes from his woman (what is it with men these days) and I am sure they'd rather not see many players across the league join in.

NBC news aired a segment on black on black violence in Chicago, then swept it away as if it wasn't part of their broadcast.

http://regated.com/2016/08/caught-nbc-d ... exclusive/

I don't understand why it is so hard for politicians and the media to just simply talk about the reality of everything. Yes, many many black people are getting killed by each other in the inner cities. Let's discuss. A spoiled little football player is being radicalized for all to see. Let's discuss. All this manipulation is just so thoroughly disgusting and dirty and gross.

I think it's because it does not fit the narrative they want you to believe.

[Memorex]

I see Colin's point now in this stunning graphic. I guess some people have to stand up for the smaller issues lest we never talk about them or see them on the news.

https://i.sli.mg/3qkPR4.jpg

[Boomchild]

I think it's happened. Hillary is so dirty to the core that even the Media that is in the tank and covering up for her can't cover up anymore.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... ndly-fire/

Got to love the tip toe in this part:

“The new emails underscore that this effort [to keep foundation business separate from the State Department] was at best partly successful,” the Times editorial board wrote.

[steveo777]

Some say Trump's high profile is allowing her to just run out the clock. I don't trust the electoral system. She's acting like her presidency is a lock. I wonder what she knows and how rigged it really is?

[Boomchild]

Some say Trump's high profile is allowing her to just run out the clock. I don't trust the electoral system. She's acting like her presidency is a lock. I wonder what she knows and how rigged it really is?

Assange keeps talking about how he is going to release documents that will clearly show that Hillary is corrupt. If this is true and she still wins then we can be certain that the system is rigged.

[Boomchild]

Or people are that stupid. Remember, Party before Country. They know what she is. They don't care. Any Democrat over anything. The lobbiest are not going to lose their cash cow. Sad, isn't it?

If there are that many stupid people out there to win an election, then the problem is bigger then a corrupt government.

[Boomchild]

TOMORROW: TRUMP SURPRISE TRIP TO MEXICO... DEVELOPING...

The President of Mexico invited both Clinton and Trump. I guess he wants to see if Trump can be bought, and he wants to see how much Clintons prices will go up if she gets the White House. Clinton better watch it. If she goes, she might have to meet with the Press.

What I want to know if she shows up will she bring her little step stool along.

[Monker]

Or people are that stupid. Remember, Party before Country. They know what she is. They don't care. Any Democrat over anything. The lobbiest are not going to lose their cash cow. Sad, isn't it?

If there are that many stupid people out there to win an election, then the problem is bigger then a corrupt government.

With such a large portion of the population being minorities, and over %50 of the population being women, the stupid person is the one who spent over a year insulting women and minorities. The naive are those that believe that person can ever be elected President.

[ohsherrie]

Some say Trump's high profile is allowing her to just run out the clock. I don't trust the electoral system. She's acting like her presidency is a lock. I wonder what she knows and how rigged it really is?

I know what you mean. The media is clearly doing their best to keep Trump down and giving Hillary a pass on everything. It makes me wonder who is in whose pocket when it comes to the relationship between the media and the political establishment.

[JBlake]

An internal memo reportedly hacked from the personal computer of Nancy Pelosi, the top Democrat in the US House of Representatives, shows how officials were briefed on how to respond to the Black Lives Matter (BLM) movement – including "tactics" on how to answer questions by activists.

The document, reportedly authored in November last year by a staffer called Troy Perry, states that Democratic Party candidates and members should never use the phrases "all lives matter" nor mention "black on black crime" as they are "viewed as red herring attacks" and "will garner additional media scrutiny and only anger BLM activists."

The Black Lives Matter movement was formed in 2012 following the death of Trayvon Martin and has been at the forefront of alleged US police brutality ever since – documenting and protesting the slew of killings including, most recently, those of Alton Sterling and Philando Castile.

The BLM-centric document was leaked online by Guccifer 2.0, the self-proclaimed hacker claiming to be responsible for infiltrating the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC).

Many cybersecurity experts believe the persona is maintained by Russian intelligence to manage a disinformation campaign with the intention of influencing the upcoming 8 November election. Kremlin officials have denied the accusations.

"Presidential candidates have struggled to respond to tactics of the Black Lives Matter movement," the memo continues. "While there has been little engagement with House candidates, candidates and campaign staff should be prepared. This document should not be emailed or handed to anyone outside of the building. Please only give campaign staff these best practices in meetings or over the phone."

Hacked Pelosi docs? This is really going to be getting good. We're going to see inside the mind of a complete nutcase.

Meanwhile, Anthony Weiner is really in hot water it appears. WTF is the problem with that guy anyways? I don't care what you guys may think, I think his wife is pretty hot looking (I got a thing for black hair and brown eyes) and I can't figure out why he would mess that all up. What a nut. When she's not around he probably stays up all night eating a case of Slim Jim's watching porn. What a fucking weiner. I'm glad she's leaving him. No good woman needs to put up with that type of fucking moron.

[Boomchild]

Or people are that stupid. Remember, Party before Country. They know what she is. They don't care. Any Democrat over anything. The lobbiest are not going to lose their cash cow. Sad, isn't it?

If there are that many stupid people out there to win an election, then the problem is bigger then a corrupt government.

With such a large portion of the population being minorities, and over %50 of the population being women, the stupid person is the one who spent over a year insulting women and minorities. The naive are those that believe that person can ever be elected President.

When is that "Taco Bowl" event happening that was mentioned in one of the DNC's emails?

[Monker]

Some say Trump's high profile is allowing her to just run out the clock. I don't trust the electoral system. She's acting like her presidency is a lock. I wonder what she knows and how rigged it really is?

I know what you mean. The media is clearly doing their best to keep Trump down and giving Hillary a pass on everything. It makes me wonder who is in whose pocket when it comes to the relationship between the media and the political establishment.

I have a huge problem with this argument. Back a month or two after Trump had won the nomination, the very people in this forum who now criticized the media for picking on Trump were posting bragging posts how Trump had such control over the media that he had them eating out of his hand. He could steal the spotlight with one tweet.

NOTHING has changed since then. The problem is NOT the media. The problem is that Trump hit a ceiling where he has gathered as many votes as he can with his crazy demagogue comments. The media reports on his asinine tweets and speeches the same as they always have....only now nobody else is joining his side and instead more people are noticing just how much of an idiot he really is. Now he (or who ever is in his future list of ex-campaign advisers) is scrambling to prove that he is a nice guy after all....which means he is officially one of the "establishment" and a politician.

That is why he is now trying to get "the blacks" and the raping Mexicans to vote for him. He can't win without them...and nearly everybody who follows this stuff knows that...including Hillary Clinton....Too bad Trump didn't know that from the moment he came down that escalator. Or, maybe it's a good thing he didn't...because he may have actually had a chance to win.

Clinton doesn't need to do ANYTHING. The past week Trump has been ALL OVER THE PLACE on his immigration policy. After talking to Mexico's President, maybe he'll back off on his wall, too. So, whatever is being said about her damn Emails is totally ignored because Trump WANTS the spotlight and the media has given it to him for over a year.