President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[steveo777]

He could just come back, so we can show him that we won gracefully and....give him some butt hurt ointment.

[tj]

Hey, so far Stein has spent 6 million on one vote.

[Boomchild]

He could just come back, so we can show him that we won gracefully and....give him some butt hurt ointment.

Time will tell but he sure spent a lot of time telling everyone that the only person that was going to win the election was Hillary. Had it been one of the other candidates he most likely would have been right. One of the things that I think Democrats were not expecting was for the not so progressive liberal Democrats to flip and vote for the other side.

Also, I think that you can only shame and condemn the American public for so long. After that they get into a "fuck you" attitude. For me, I got sick and tired of hearing our President telling me we are bad citizens and how we need to think and act. Every time he addressed the American public it was tell us what we (citizens) were doing wrong and how he was going to fix it. I firmly believe Obama really wanted to be a dictator of his own country.

[Memorex]

Hey, so far Stein has spent 6 million on one vote.

Keeping the campaign promise to fight for every vote!

[UncleKG]

Because in that state the law allows him to do so if there were no grounds for a recount. Being a spoiled bitch and throwing a temper tantrum are not grounds.

Trump himself suggested there are grounds for a recount, especially if "millions" of illegal immigrants voted. If for no other reason, let the recount proceed to determine if there are a large number of illegals voting.

[UncleKG]

The integrity of the election results are breached when everybody and their mongoloid brother starts monkeying around with the votes after the fact.

So, to be clear, if Trump had lost and asked for a recount, especially after his repeated allegations the election was "rigged," you'd have been against such a recount?

[Memorex]

The integrity of the election results are breached when everybody and their mongoloid brother starts monkeying around with the votes after the fact.

So, to be clear, if Trump had lost and asked for a recount, especially after his repeated allegations the election was "rigged," you'd have been against such a recount?

For me, it all depends on the circumstances. In the states that they are asking for a recount, there has been zero evidence of anything wrong. So it's just a waste of money. The only way anyone would have supported Trump asking for a recount is if there were signs of problems. No one asked for a recount with Romney or McCain. The Republicans picked up their ball and went home. If Trump was out there asking for recounts with zero reasoning, no one would accept it. Historically, that's what has been proven out.

Also, you have a third party candidate clearly acting on behalf of a major candidate and that's illegal. The funding is not grassroots, as they may have you believe. And if Stein really wanted to ensure the integrity of the election, she would have also chosen some states where Clinton won by smaller margins. And she would have included California, where it's accepted that many who were ineligible to vote, did vote.

My point is, the whole recount is not on the up and up and not for the reasons the Stein campaign has stated. And you have this money coming in from places and that sets off alarm bells. And then of course you can clearly see that this is all happening to throw off the electoral results and somehow weaken Trump, as if he cares if he won by one point or 74. Maybe it would bring a thrill to some Hillary supporters if some states could not be included, but it does not change Trumps plan one bit. He doesn't strike me as a guy who gives a shit how much he wins by, only that he won.

If there was reason to recount and overturn things, then by all means that should happen. But so far there is zero evidence of any wrongdoing against Hillary. "Please please please let Hillary have a chance to take this" is not a reason for this to be happening. So then it becomes a distraction and colossal waste of money. I wish someone would give me $7 million. I'd put it to better use.

Edit: Who am I kidding? I'd blow it all on family and friends just like the Dems. But I would still like the opportunity.

[Memorex]

Because in that state the law allows him to do so if there were no grounds for a recount. Being a spoiled bitch and throwing a temper tantrum are not grounds.

Trump himself suggested there are grounds for a recount, especially if "millions" of illegal immigrants voted. If for no other reason, let the recount proceed to determine if there are a large number of illegals voting.

I don't think he said that. All I have heard him say was (before the election) "Let's see what happens" and (after the the election) "3 million people voted illegally." True or not, he is not asking for a recount so he can get more states. That's easier as a winner, but still. There is no legitimate scenario where Hillary takes this back. So why concern themselves with the number of states? It's petty at this point.

[tj]

" it does not change Trumps plan one bit. He doesn't strike me as a guy who gives a shit how much he wins by, only that he won."

Bingo. As long as there is not a chance of him being cheated out of the electoral victory, he doesn't really care about the popular vote, recounts, etc. He wins and can implement his plan.

Does anyone know, do the recount efforts affect the down ballot races too, or just the presidential? Perhaps a house/senate/statewide race could be changed? I can see if they affect all races on the ballot where there might be more rationale, but I haven't heard anyone making this case.

[Memorex]

" it does not change Trumps plan one bit. He doesn't strike me as a guy who gives a shit how much he wins by, only that he won."

Bingo. As long as there is not a chance of him being cheated out of the electoral victory, he doesn't really care about the popular vote, recounts, etc. He wins and can implement his plan.

Does anyone know, do the recount efforts affect the down ballot races too, or just the presidential? Perhaps a house/senate/statewide race could be changed? I can see if they affect all races on the ballot where there might be more rationale, but I haven't heard anyone making this case.

Democrats: "Mr. Trump, I'm sorry, but you only won by 15 electoral votes instead of 74. We got you right where we want you, you son of bitch!"
Trump: "The wall just got ten feet taller. Big League. And now not only is Mexico paying for it, so is the DNC. Believe me. We have the best financing, don't we folks?"

[Boomchild]

I don't think he said that. All I have heard him say was (before the election) "Let's see what happens" and (after the the election) "3 million people voted illegally." True or not, he is not asking for a recount so he can get more states. That's easier as a winner, but still. There is no legitimate scenario where Hillary takes this back. So why concern themselves with the number of states? It's petty at this point.

To the best of my recollection, all he said was that he was reserving his opinion on the outcome of the election until it occurs. Also during his campaign he did say that he thought there was cheating and\or rigging that would occur. He was right. There were reports of ballot stuffing in early voting, USPS employees destroying Republican absentee ballots as well as some DNC state offices were raided for voter registration violations. It was the Democrats that were calling his claims ridiculous and chastising him for not willing to say he would accept the outcome prior to election day. Any criticism of Trump now on the subject is just a deflection to distract people from the clear hypocrisy of the Democrats and others calling for recounts and demanding that election rules be changed.

Everyone knows that if Trump won the popular vote but Hillary won the electoral college they would be telling all opposed to the result to go pound sand. Frankly, I think Stein simply decided to perform this stunt to delegitimize Trump's win. Also notice how any funds remaining from what is collected for the recounts will go into a political fund that will benefit Stein. This is all just a way to keep the division among American public alive. We can expect this kind of discourse throughout Trump's term.

[Memorex]

I don't think he said that. All I have heard him say was (before the election) "Let's see what happens" and (after the the election) "3 million people voted illegally." True or not, he is not asking for a recount so he can get more states. That's easier as a winner, but still. There is no legitimate scenario where Hillary takes this back. So why concern themselves with the number of states? It's petty at this point.

To the best of my recollection, all he said was that he was reserving his opinion on the outcome of the election until it occurs. Also during his campaign he did say that he thought there was cheating and\or rigging that would occur. He was right. There were reports of ballot stuffing in early voting, USPS employees destroying Republican absentee ballots as well as some DNC state offices were raided for voter registration violations. It was the Democrats that were calling his claims ridiculous and chastising him for not willing to say he would accept the outcome prior to election day. Any criticism of Trump now on the subject is just a deflection to distract people from the clear hypocrisy of the Democrats and others calling for recounts and demanding that election rules be changed.

Everyone knows that if Trump won the popular vote but Hillary won the electoral college they would be telling all opposed to the result to go pound sand. Frankly, I think Stein simply decided to perform this stunt to delegitimize Trump's win. Also notice how any funds remaining from what is collected for the recounts will go into a political fund that will benefit Stein. This is all just a way to keep the division among American public alive. We can expect this kind of discourse throughout Trump's term.

And the PA recount is dead.
http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2016/12/ ... a-recount/

[Boomchild]

And the PA recount is dead.
http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2016/12/ ... a-recount/

I thought I read somewhere that inorder for a recount to be granted in PA you had to show voting irregularities in a certain percentage of precincts. If this is true then that should have killed their filing for a recount sice they could not prove anything happened in PA.

There is also rumblings now that some electoral voters are not going to vote Trump in some states where he won.

[Boomchild]

If this story is true, I find this unacceptable. We do have a separation of church and state in this country which should mean we do not make any special accommodations for ANY religion in state or federal buildings.

Obama Crushed After Trump Orders White House To Stop His Sickest Tradition

For the past 7 years, to appease any Muslims working at or visiting the White House, silence has been ordered during the five times of Islamic prayer each day. In addition, prayer rugs and crescent moon symbols are available in several areas of the executive mansion to make Muslims more comfortable.

http://thelastlineofdefense.org/obama-c ... tradition/

[Memorex]

And the PA recount is dead.
http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2016/12/ ... a-recount/

I thought I read somewhere that inorder for a recount to be granted in PA you had to show voting irregularities in a certain percentage of precincts. If this is true then that should have killed their filing for a recount sice they could not prove anything happened in PA.

There is also rumblings now that some electoral voters are not going to vote Trump in some states where he won.

And Stein is back at it looking for a federal court to order the recount. Just nutty.

[AR]

Why hasn't Jill Stein asked for recounts in states Trump won? LMAO

[Boomchild]

I guess he should have gone to his beloved Castro's funeral.

http://www.breitbart.com/sports/2016/12 ... d-gabbert/

Karma is a bitch.

[Boomchild]

I guess he should have gone to his beloved Castro's funeral.

http://www.breitbart.com/sports/2016/12 ... d-gabbert/

I heard Castro did an excellent job with education in comparison to the U.S.. I believe his first big accomplishment in this was burning books.

[Memorex]

I guess he should have gone to his beloved Castro's funeral.

http://www.breitbart.com/sports/2016/12 ... d-gabbert/

I hope he doesn't play another snap with the Niners.

[JBlake]

The integrity of the election results are breached when everybody and their mongoloid brother starts monkeying around with the votes after the fact.

So, to be clear, if Trump had lost and asked for a recount, especially after his repeated allegations the election was "rigged," you'd have been against such a recount?

How I take Trump's meaning of "Rigged" is how the media and so many others are so blatantly bias against Trump. We all know how many illegals voted, how many dead people voted and how many voted more then once, 99% sure all those fraudulent votes were democrap. In that case a recount wouldn't really matter if Trump lost cause a recount would yield the same results.

Why don't you just go out and ask Bernie if the system was rigged for him to be eliminated. That's the type of "rigging" I'm talking about and 99% sure Trump was talking about as well.

[JBlake]

The integrity of the election results are breached when everybody and their mongoloid brother starts monkeying around with the votes after the fact.

So, to be clear, if Trump had lost and asked for a recount, especially after his repeated allegations the election was "rigged," you'd have been against such a recount?

Hillary PROUDLY said she'd accept the results. Yet another lie.

You got another very good point there.

[Boomchild]

Interesting. Look what's making the news. I just wonder if there were electoral college members that didn't vote for Obama when he was declared the winner?

Second Texas Republican Electoral College Member Says He Won't Vote For Trump

AUSTIN, TX — A second Republican member of the Electoral College has said he won't be casting his vote for Donald Trump as president, according to an opinion piece published in the New York Times on Monday.

Christopher Suprun, a paramedic from Dallas, wrote in the Times that Trump is not qualified for the office, citing stridently worded tweets the president-elect has recently made on issues as inconsequential as an actor's portrayal of him on "Saturday Night Live."

http://patch.com/texas/downtownaustin/s ... vote-trump

[AR]

Why hasn't Jill Stein asked for recounts in states Trump won? LMAO

Trump won MI, WI, and PA.

Actually I meant states Clinton won.

[Boomchild]

MASSIVE MI VOTER FRAUD UNCOVERED? 59% Of Detroit Vote Counting Machines Didn’t Work On Election Day…Ballots May Have Been Counted Several Times…Votes Were Certified Anyway

He blamed the discrepancies on the city’s decade-old voting machines, saying 87 optical scanners broke on Election Day. Many jammed when voters fed ballots into scanners, which can result in erroneous vote counts if ballots are inserted multiple times. Poll workers are supposed to adjust counters to reflect a single vote but in many cases failed to do so, causing the discrepancies, Baxter said.

http://100percentfedup.com/massive-mi-v ... ed-anyway/

[Boomchild]

Someone is starting to look dumber then Gary Johnson.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/presidential ... tml?ref=gs

And people wonder why third parties are not taken seriously.

[Boomchild]

So you would think there would be some change in the Republicans in Congress since Trump's victory. Well, not so much. A Congressman put forth a bill to impeach the IRS commissioner. House Republicans voted it down. Perhaps this is sign of things to come from Congress under Trump's Presidency.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Trump markin' out over loving Obama lol. After election status-quo back to normal.

[Boomchild]

So Trump did a phone interview with The Today Show in which he said the following about President Obama:
"Now that I have gotten to know him, I like him and I think we get along." WTF? Where is Donald's head at? Is this just a PC statement? This is the kind of stuff that got us where we are now. What is coming next? Are we going to hear Trump tell us he likes some of Obama's ideas and principles? Obama is the enemy, he is directly responsible for a whole host of issues and problems this country is facing. IMHO, you need to call him out for what he is and not make appearances that you are "budding up to him". Being respectful is one thing but I think Trump went a bit too far on this one.

[Boomchild]

Trump will get stabbed in the back and learn his lesson. He'll figure out what liberals are. He should already know.

For Christ's sake, if he hasn't figured that out by now, that's pretty scary. That would be like he wasn't paying attention all through the election cycle.

[steveo777]

I have a feeling we're gonna get things done with this administration, rather than legislating which bathrooms people pee in.