They're Eating The Dogs Presidential Thread

[Boomchild]

Sessions confirmed. Next....

[Boomchild]

That's exactly what Obama and his administration did all the way throughout the entire 8 years of his presidency, using the IRS, among other portions of the government to fulfill his agenda. And if you don't see that, you're far more ignorant then assessed.

Oh come on now. You remember Obama telling the American people there wasn't even a "smigin" of corruption or wrong doing in the IRS.

[Boomchild]

There is no bigger bitch than McConnell. Well, I can think of two others, actually.

It seems that being a hypocrite is a prerequisite to becoming a politician. Also it seems that it has nothing to do with parry affiliation.

[Boomchild]

Here you go boomchild.

http://louderwithcrowder.com/study-left ... tally-ill/

Which means Republicans won't have any problems with them buying plenty of guns. That should make the "riots" more interesting. http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2017/02/03/House-votes-to-roll-back-rule-to-prevent-mentally-ill-from-buying-guns/9061486102963/

Fixed it for you.

[verslibre]

It seems that being a hypocrite is a prerequisite to becoming a politician. Also it seems that it has nothing to do with party affiliation.

That's right. You finally said something I fully agree with.

[verslibre]

What a case of HUA. What a narcissist.

President Trump tweeted a jab at Nordstrom department stores from his personal account Wednesday morning, which was then retweeted by the official @POTUS account.

Spicer sits on the Jack O' Lantern's lap, and Jack O's hand is up his ass.

Press Secretary Sean Spicer defended the president's use of the @POTUS handle to discuss his daughter's business.

"This was less about his family's business and an attack on his daughter," Spicer said.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/08/news/companies/donald-trump-nordstrom-ivanka/

[verslibre]

It seems that being a hypocrite is a prerequisite to becoming a politician. Also it seems that it has nothing to do with party affiliation.

That's right. You finally said something I fully agree with.

In this day and age everything you've ever said can and will be found, and used against you. No good deed will go unpunished. Ideas and ideals are out, character assassination is in.

It happened before the Internet. It's just a f—load easier now.

[Monker]

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In this day and age everything you've ever said can and will be found, and used against you. No good deed will go unpunished. Ideas and ideals are out, character assassination is in.

It happened before the Internet. It's just a f—load easier now.

It happened before Christ was born. It's been going on since the Greeks invented a representative democracy.

[Monker]

Then I coould say it's people like you and Uncle SFB that allowed Clinton to get away with rape, over and over again, by your stupid lodgic.

Or, you can admit that you are a bitter old man who can't stand the fact that Clinton served two terms and despite all of your complaints is one of the most popular Presidents of our time

[Monker]

Trump has been in two weeks. Obama took two yeras to do the ACA which is all he had to show for it. AND, he didn't have a bunch of whiney bitches not show up, delay everything they could when he started out, and Trump is still putting his foot up their butts. Thank God Congress is starting to grow a pair. I loved it when McConnell Mitch slapped Sackoshitwia yesterday.

Obama had to deal with an economy in free fall, a mortgage crisis causing every large financial institution to be under the threat of going bankrupt, an auto industry where all three major companies were failing, an economy bleeding jobs. He saved the auto industry, passed a watered down stimulus, the ACA, and somehow still managed to kill Bin Laden.

Yes, he passed Obamacare. But, he also stopped our economy from falling into a deep depression.

And, you are wrong, the whiney Republican leadership (including Mitch, and Paul...and Cantor) got together and decided to obstruct EVERYTHING Obama wanted to do. If Obama was for it, they were against it...that was their motto. You are a hypocrite for whining about this NOW.

[Monker]

"We got our fucking way, now get out of the way" sounds like something a goosestepper would say.

That's exactly what Obama and his administration did all the way throughout the entire 8 years of his presidency, using the IRS, among other portions of the government to fulfill his agenda. And if you don't see that, you're far more ignorant then assessed.

Good for Obama....he didn't have much choice given the obstruction. The obstruction was so bad that towards the end, Republicans didn't even try to hide it.

[Monker]

Oh, sure, but at least I know when to use "than."

At least he hasn't had a years long signature line completely misspelled. You're welcome!

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/fouryear ... women.html

Is that a real song? Never heard of it. Obviously my sig, and the way's it spelled, has to do with (shocker) something else. Care to hazard a guess?

You'll have to get a bigger forum for that one.

[UncleKG]

The steam roller keeps rolling..........

https://www.yahoo.com/news/sen-sessions ... itics.html

Yeah, what a guy.

[Memorex]

I've been reading some articles the past few days. I come here and I see all this back and forth. What strikes me is how so much of the extreme on both sides are doing the talking out there. So far, it's hurt liberals far more. It is truly stunning how little power they have in this country right now. I believe the reason is the vitriol. People don't care for it. Not everyone who disagrees with you is a racist. Not everyone who voted for Trump hates all non whites. In fact, very few feel that way. Liberals just highlight them more.

So I assume the same is true on the liberal side. But here is where the liberals are at a disadvantage. Many of the liberal extreme are in the media and Hollywood. They have much louder voices than your average extreme right winger (white power types). It's just a non stop droning of how I am supposed to feel bad for being born white. So that representation of the Democrat party makes it seem like the percentage is greater. The violence is much much higher on the left, as well as these fake-crimes meant to blame the right, and so even though it may be a small fraction of the party, it gets the most play.

The liberals have Soros. This guy is about as evil as they come. He funds the violence and the outrage. I may be missing something, but the right doesn't have someone funding violence and anger. Yes, they have massive funds, but it's more geared toward policy and buying people off. Not throwing bricks through windows and kicking people in the head.

So what happens is half the country hates the other half, but it's liberals that are losing in stunning fashion. I mean, for all the volume, they control almost nothing.

The right better take notice, because as we have seen in the past, it only takes a couple short years to flip that sucker over. But the left needs to realize it will not happen so long as they keep their current loud voices as leaders. Such as BLM, or any other group that serves to be violent and attack others simply because they are white or feel different. If they continue to let Soros fund and guide them, they are going to become really next to nothing. As much as they hate Trump, they have to ask themselves how bad must the Democrat party be doing that he was elected. Is name calling and violence really the way to get back to success? This is no longer the party of Bill Clinton or any Dem before him.

Liberals have run on gay rights, women's rights, trans rights, etc. Currently, despite what some may want you to believe, none of those things are in jeopardy. Gays can marry and no one is going to mess with that. Nor wants to. Trump supports LGBT and the right largely wants to just move on from all that debate. Abortion is not going to become illegal. And Americans do want strong border control and a fair playing field. It's time everyone found that middle and worked within it. And stop demonizing people for wanting better jobs or security or for all people to be treated equal.

[Memorex]

The steam roller keeps rolling..........

https://www.yahoo.com/news/sen-sessions ... itics.html

Yeah, what a guy.

You know you could put quite a few Democrats in that picture and check many of the same marks, right? In fact, I'm pretty sure Hillary would be checked on the first one. I never look directly at things like this because often a senator will vote against a bill because it has some crap legislation tied to it. Then the bill gets cleaned up and they vote for it. Like "Democrats voted against funding the troops!" No they didn't. They voted against a shitty bill because it included a line about defunding planned parenthood and later voted for funding the troops when that part was removed.

I suspect Sessions will do a good job. No one can be as bad as the last couple. Well, hopefully.

[UncleKG]

Anyone else see the irony in a supposed "jobs" president using both his personal (his prerogative) AND the official POTUS Twitter (conflict of interest red flag) to bash a US retailer for choosing not to carry his daughter's products? Glad to see many Americans saw past the B.S., resulting in Nordstrom's stock rising.

http://komonews.com/news/local/presidents-tweet-sends-nordstrom-shares-tumbling

[Memorex]

Memorex, one thing you forgot. If you read Yahoo this morning, Union school teachers are now claiming that ALL money will now go to those "Rich Private Schools". How dare parents want a good education for their kids and not put up with a P.C. brain washing factory to ensure liberals for generations. They really fear the education money going to the parents for the best schools, where they will have to up their game. Otherwise, a great post. Now Monker can spend hours taking it apart in some huge post of spin that almost all of us will pass right by.

So this is interesting. For most people I know, they want to send their kids to the school of their choice. The single biggest reason I moved from CA to MN is schools. The CA schools had gotten so bad, and I could not afford private school. To me, the schools were not doing what was needed to keep the kids safe and improve the situation. I also look at the pension issue, etc.

The other day my kid said "I want this thing." And i said great, but there is no money for that thing. And they said "But I want that thing." And it made me mad. How is "But i want it" a proper reply to we don't have the money? That's how i see pensions. Do the teachers deserve better pay and nice pensions - sure - the good ones absolutely do. Is there enough money? Nope. Not in CA. So then one side says well, throw more money in there. Which could be valid, if it was helping. I don't have pension where I work. In fact, I've never worked in a single place that offered a pension. But I do get paid more than a teacher, so I'm not complaining.

So what if when my only choice was a school that was falling apart they came along and said ok, instead of us putting your child's share into this school, we'll put it over here and you can go to this better school. If it was enough, I would have done that, at least for a while, instead of moving. But then, what does that do to the public school? I have no idea. And so I can't really say. But i know it's worth investigating. I know I have to focus on my kid. When I moved I did not consider the schools in CA that would be losing my money. I considered my kid - and that's it.

It will be an interesting debate, that's for sure. I love teachers. I think the majority are trying to do good and there are many that don't. But I can say every single teacher I spoke with hated Common Core, no child left behind, etc. And I personally do not enjoy funding any school when they are forced to follow common core. But teachers really didn't have too much of a say in it.

[Memorex]

Anyone else see the irony in a supposed "jobs" president using both his personal (his prerogative) AND the official POTUS Twitter (conflict of interest red flag) to bash a US retailer for choosing not to carry his daughter's products? Glad to see many Americans saw past the B.S., resulting in Nordstrom's stock rising.

http://komonews.com/news/local/presidents-tweet-sends-nordstrom-shares-tumbling

Trump needs to chill on the twitter now, in some cases. That said, being a father I completely understand his desire to want to comment on any company that brings his kids into play. The same would be done by any president. I know both Obama and Bush had to push back on the media at times for mentioning their kids. With this president, it seems everything is on the table, including saying his young son would be a killer. But a president has to kind of be above all that.

[UncleKG]

Anyone else see the irony in a supposed "jobs" president using both his personal (his prerogative) AND the official POTUS Twitter (conflict of interest red flag) to bash a US retailer for choosing not to carry his daughter's products? Glad to see many Americans saw past the B.S., resulting in Nordstrom's stock rising.

http://komonews.com/news/local/presidents-tweet-sends-nordstrom-shares-tumbling

Trump needs to chill on the twitter now, in some cases. That said, being a father I completely understand his desire to want to comment on any company that brings his kids into play. The same would be done by any president. I know both Obama and Bush had to push back on the media at times for mentioning their kids. With this president, it seems everything is on the table, including saying his young son would be a killer. But a president has to kind of be above all that.

Difference is, Obama and Bush's kids were still teenagers, with zero business interests. Ivanka is a married 35 year old mom with her own brand of products. A business can choose to do business with you (or not do business with you) for any reason they see fit. 'Merica. For the PRESIDENT to use his office's official social media to criticize a US business just because they don't want to play in the sandbox with his daughter is ridiculous. For Spicer to then double down on that criticism in a White House press briefing is even more ridiculous.

Not to mention, the thousands of Nordstrom's employees "Fake News 45's" comments could potentially affect. What about those jobs, or do they not matter?

[Memorex]

Anyone else see the irony in a supposed "jobs" president using both his personal (his prerogative) AND the official POTUS Twitter (conflict of interest red flag) to bash a US retailer for choosing not to carry his daughter's products? Glad to see many Americans saw past the B.S., resulting in Nordstrom's stock rising.

http://komonews.com/news/local/presidents-tweet-sends-nordstrom-shares-tumbling

Trump needs to chill on the twitter now, in some cases. That said, being a father I completely understand his desire to want to comment on any company that brings his kids into play. The same would be done by any president. I know both Obama and Bush had to push back on the media at times for mentioning their kids. With this president, it seems everything is on the table, including saying his young son would be a killer. But a president has to kind of be above all that.

Difference is, Obama and Bush's kids were still teenagers, with zero business interests. Ivanka is a married 35 year old mom with her own brand of products. A business can choose to do business with you (or not do business with you) for any reason they see fit. 'Merica. For the PRESIDENT to use his office's official social media to criticize a US business just because they don't want to play in the sandbox with his daughter is ridiculous. For Spicer to then double down on that criticism in a White House press briefing is even more ridiculous.

I tend to agree.

[UncleKG]

So, "Fake News 45" now says a senator misrepresented what his Supreme Court nominee said, even though the nominee's spokesperson confirmed he said it. Got it.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/08/gorsuch-calls-trump-comments-about-judges-disheartening-and-demoralizing.html

I'd bet you dollars to donuts the prez. has had conversations behind closed doors asking if there's any way he could withdraw Gorsuch as a nominee due to his "insolence."

[verslibre]

So...about that 3AM call the POTUS made...

[verslibre]

[...] Care to hazard a guess?

You'll have to get a bigger forum for that one.

Too true.

[Monker]

A long time ago, I wrote a post about my thoughts on public/private education and school funding. IMO, public funding is all messed up...adding private schools into the mix just makes the situation worse.

In my experience, public schools are funded via state property taxes. I know that I can look at my property tax assessment and see how much money is sent to public schools. On the surface, that seems fine. But, here are my issues with it:

What if I own a home and pay property taxes but have six kids? I pay the same property tax as someone who has only one kid. I do not see that as being fair.

What if I own a home but do not have any kids? I still pay property tax and pay for schools that I am not even using. This can partially be justified by saying a well kept school in the area increases property value so I am benefiting from it. But, IMO, that is just an excuse to tax me.

What if I have an apartment? Well, I pay rent but do not pay any property taxes. So, I can have an apartment, and kids, and not pay any taxes to fund the schools at all. I'm sure the apartment complex itself has property taxed so a portion of rent is probably going to it...but as far as I know, there is no way to track how much each individual renter is paying.

So, what I think should be done is to make ALL public schools have a paid tuition. That tuition can then be a deduction in state and federal taxes.

This will eliminate school funding from property taxes...which can then be lowered. It also eliminates all the issues of people paying too much tax, or too little, or not at all, because of where they live or how many kids a family has in school.

For private schools, IMO, that is up to you to pay for. I do not feel any special consideration should be given to them by the state or federal government.

For the poor, there should be a regressive way to pay for the school tuition and then be given a "voucher" to only be used for the tuition. This could also be used towards paying for private school, if they can afford the remainder of the tuition.

[Boomchild]

A 25 year State Department veteran who has worked directly with the refugee program talks about the reality of it.

Letter: I have seen first-hand the abuse and fraud in the U.S. refugee program

As a recently retired 25-year veteran of the U.S. Department of State who served almost eight years as a refugee coordinator throughout the Middle East, Africa, Russia and Cuba, I have seen first-hand the abuses and fraud that permeate the refugee program and know about the entrenched interests that fight every effort to implement much-needed reform. Despite claims of enhanced vetting, the reality is that it is virtually impossible to vet an individual who has no type of an official record, particularly in countries compromised by terrorism. U.S. immigration officials simply rely on the person’s often rehearsed and fabricated “testimony.” I have personally seen this on hundreds of occasions.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opin ... story.html

[Monker]

A 25 year State Department veteran who has worked directly with the refugee program talks about the reality of it.

You do not know that...it could all simply be made up. Prove that she is real.

Again, I will ask, please tell me SPECIFICALY what parts of the current vetting are problematic. Please tell me SPECIFICALY how it should change. I do not believe you know anything about the current vetting process...and yet you complain about it.

This letter reads like somebody making stuff up to stir the pot in favor of Trump. Give an example of a refugee inventing a fake testimony and going through the two year vetting process and being allowed in the US, and then committing terrorism, or frankly - any negative act towards the United States.

[verslibre]

A 25 year State Department veteran who has worked directly with the refugee program talks about the reality of it.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opin ... story.html

Totally anonymous, of course.

So you guys automatically believe that, but you won't buy into Stern's remarks about Donald? Tsk, tsk.

[Monker]

So, it should be no problem at all for you to find a pic of a known terrorist going about killing people, and then find him in the US after he went through all of the REFUGEE vetting.

I believe FACTS, not what a bullshit liar like Assad has to say. YOU are the one who believes people like Assad and Putin, and just random people that nobody really knows.

And, Trump lost his appeal. I'm like all shocked and stuff like that.

Doubt if this will help Monker out...he doesn't believe anything except what he believes.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-sy ... 01926.html

Exclusive: Syria’s Assad tells Yahoo News some refugees are ‘definitely’ terrorists

Weighing in on one of the most contentious issues in American politics — the danger posed to host countries by the 4.8 million people who have fled from Syria’s civil war — Syrian President Bashar Assad told Yahoo News that some of the refugees are “definitely” terrorists.

In an exclusive interview with Yahoo News at a presidential office in Damascus, Assad said President Trump’s freeze on admitting refugees from his country — part of an executive order that has drawn widespread protests and is being challenged in federal court — “is an American issue” on which he would not take sides. But asked if some of those who fled are “aligned with terrorists,” Assad quickly replied, “Definitely.”

“You can find it on the Net,” Assad went on: “Those terrorists in Syria, holding the machine gun or killing people, they [appear as] peaceful refugees in Europe or in the West.” He said he couldn’t estimate how many there might be, but he added that “don’t need a significant number to commit atrocities.” He noted that the 9/11 attacks were pulled off by fewer than 20 terrorists “out of maybe millions of immigrants in the United States. So it’s not about the number, it’s about the quality, it’s about the intentions.”

As for the future of Syria’s 4.8 million refugees, Assad said: “for me, the priority is to bring those citizens to their country, not to help them immigrate.”

As with all interviews granted by President Bashar Assad, this interview was filmed by his presidential press office. No editorial changes were made to the content.

[Monker]

A 25 year State Department veteran who has worked directly with the refugee program talks about the reality of it.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opin ... story.html

Totally anonymous, of course.

So you guys automatically believe that, but you won't buy into Stern's remarks about Donald? Tsk, tsk.

They would believe Tommy Flanagan if the topic was to theirs and Trump's script.

See all these people?


These are refugee....no, I mean TERRORISTS. They are all coming to BLOW YOU UP. In fact, they are all gathered together like that to get instructions...on how to build a bomb. Yeah, that's right...

...and these kids?


Sure, they may look all harmless and innocent, laying about all cutesy like. But, they just stay low to the ground so they can get a good angle on you when they pounce and bite. Yeah, that's because they're not just terrorists, they are VAMPIRE terrorists.

Oh, yes, vampire terrorists are real. I know because...well, because I was one. Yeah, that was me, Mr. Vampire Terrorst. But, I was cured. I was cured by Wesley Snipes. He was on a date with my future wife, Heidi Klum, and he cured me just by looking at me...his stare scared the terror and vamp right out of me. And, it scared Heidi Klum right into my arms.

So, beware. Beware of the vampire, terrorist, refugees from Syria. Wesley Snipes can't cure all of them. And, he's pissed at me anyway for stealing Heidi Klum from him. Yeah, that's the ticket...or my name isn't Tommy Flanagan.

[Monker]

Ain't it the truth.

http://www.thestate.com/news/politics-g ... 87969.html

Oh, yes, liberals are not tolerant. They need to be more tolerant of racism, bigotry, talk of sexual assault, lies and hate. You know, all those things Donald Trump and Republicans want to be and support. We should all be tolerant of an attorney general who is a racist. Liberals should know better then to quote to congress Coretta Scott King during the confirmation of a racist AG, especially when those words were ALREADY SPOKEN without issue the last time Jeff Sessions had confirmation hearings. Liberals should know better than to be disgusted when a Presidential candidate berates women and candidly talks about how his power and stardom allows him to sexually assault them. Liberals should be tolerant of hatred towards LGBT community. LIberals need to just let everybody be their asshole selves.