They're Eating The Dogs Presidential Thread

[Boomchild]

Since the recent discussions here has centered on "physical appendages" and acts surrounding them maybe this will suit.

[The_Noble_Cause]

As some of you know, I'm a fairly liberal guy. Always have been. But in this election, I voted for Trump.

[Memorex]

Since the recent discussions here has centered on "physical appendages" and acts surrounding them maybe this will suit.

TNC's spidey senses must of went off over this and now he is back!

[steveo777]

Smells like bullshit.

What smells like bullshit? You've gotta be more specific....

[Boomchild]

You have Snopes saying it's false, consider the source, then this.

My question isn't about Snopes. My question was has he been listed as being wanted by Russia on Interpol. My understanding is that when you issue a warrant such as this, it gets listed on Interpol. Besides that OUR government should be investigating him and charge him if there is evidence to support being charged. We don't need Russia to do any of that.

[Boomchild]

Did you notice how quickly the Clinton Foundation folded after she lost? Nothing to sell.

Keep in mind it was only the Clinton Global Initiative that is being closed down and not the whole foundation. The foundation is like a huge spiderweb of various charities. I use the word charities very lightly. If you want some insight to the structure and operation of this massive fraud, check out Charles Ortel's site. He has done extensive research of the foundation and it's operations.

http://charlesortel.com/

[YoungJRNYfan]

TNC's going to come in here all like:

[JBlake]

Did you notice how quickly the Clinton Foundation folded after she lost? Nothing to sell.

Keep in mind it was only the Clinton Global Initiative that is being closed down and not the whole foundation. The foundation is like a huge spiderweb of various charities. I use the word charities very lightly. If you want some insight to the structure and operation of this massive fraud, check out Charles Ortel's site. He has done extensive research of the foundation and it's operations.

http://charlesortel.com/

So my question is why is the "Global" component of this fraudulent organization shutting down all of a sudden after Hillary lost the her bid to be the next president of the United States? The timing of it is quite telling.

[Monker]

TNC's going to come in here all like:

Like a really bad movie?

[verslibre]

Monk, you know that scene raged!

Also, kudos to Chris "Captain America" Evans for serving David "Dickhead" Duke after the latter called Chris out for dating girls who aren't white. Holy shit, what century is this again?

[YoungJRNYfan]

TNC's going to come in here all like:

Like a really bad movie?

That scene > entire MCU.

[Boomchild]

So my question is why is the "Global" component of this fraudulent organization shutting down all of a sudden after Hillary lost the her bid to be the next president of the United States? The timing of it is quite telling.

It because this is where the "pay to play" action was occurring and now that Hillary lost in the election, foreign donors are not interested in contributing anymore.

[Monker]

So to answer your question, I think it's both A and B. Now you're leaving out a lot of other information such as how this would impact the American economy, business owners, employees, and consumer. Like my car scenario mentioned, instead of purchasing something that would cost two and three times more because it's imported, most would tend to purchase domestic for up to 1/3rd the price. Nearly all manufacturing has been outsourced out of America and to other countries now. You really don't have a choice anymore to buy American made. Levi's used to be a very quality jean. Look at the cheap shit coming out of Mexico now from that outsourced company. With Trump doing what he's doing in regards to trade, we will again have a choice to buy truly American (domestic) or foreign (imported). And that will equate into positive business for America, American businesses, business owners, employees and consumers. And ultimately A and B wouldn't effect those who have chosen to purchase American (domestic) vs foreign (imported).

First of all, this is bunk because import cars already cost more to a comparable US car. It is also bunk that "almost all" car manufacturing is outside of the US. A lot of it, but not "almost all". Finally, people who choose to buy an import are doing so to buy better standard featurs and perceived quality...not because they are cheaper.

but, whatever, let's say Trump adds the import tax you are describing...so it costs twice as much to buy an import. So, now those people who were buying foreign cars now want to buy American. That is going to cause pressure for inflation of car prices. Why? BECAUSE MORE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE BUYING AMERICAN CARS. More demand means the price can go up and auto industry can make more money. YOU REMOVED THEIR COMPETITION to keep prices lower. So, the industry can double or triple the price of their cars before they hit ANY foregin competition. You also removed the competition for QUALITY. So, they can now make a lower quality product and people will buy it because there is no competition.

So, for the average person, this is NOT GOOD. They will end up paying more and getting a lower quality product.

Then there is the topic of imports costing less than American made. In your car scenerio, if imports cost $5k less on average...$20k for an import and $25k for American...as soon as that tax is implemented to price imports out of the competition you have %20 inflation on cars...because the average price of a car went up $5k because you removed the competition...and as described above, there will be economic pressure to raise the price even higher.

And, after prices are raised and the industry is making more money, they can cut the number of cars made because they are making more profit on a single car and therefore need to sell fewer cars to make the same profit. Since they can cut the number of cars made, they can cut the number of employees at the factories.

This is simple, basic, economics...something Republicans once understood.

So, for the average person, this is NOT GOOD. They will end up paying more and getting a lower quality product...and there will be FEWER factory jobs in the long term.

[JBlake]

So to answer your question, I think it's both A and B. Now you're leaving out a lot of other information such as how this would impact the American economy, business owners, employees, and consumer. Like my car scenario mentioned, instead of purchasing something that would cost two and three times more because it's imported, most would tend to purchase domestic for up to 1/3rd the price. Nearly all manufacturing has been outsourced out of America and to other countries now. You really don't have a choice anymore to buy American made. Levi's used to be a very quality jean. Look at the cheap shit coming out of Mexico now from that outsourced company. With Trump doing what he's doing in regards to trade, we will again have a choice to buy truly American (domestic) or foreign (imported). And that will equate into positive business for America, American businesses, business owners, employees and consumers. And ultimately A and B wouldn't effect those who have chosen to purchase American (domestic) vs foreign (imported).

First of all, this is bunk because import cars already cost more to a comparable US car. It is also bunk that "almost all" car manufacturing is outside of the US. A lot of it, but not "almost all". Finally, people who choose to buy an import are doing so to buy better standard featurs and perceived quality...not because they are cheaper.

but, whatever, let's say Trump adds the import tax you are describing...so it costs twice as much to buy an import. So, now those people who were buying foreign cars now want to buy American. That is going to cause pressure for inflation of car prices. Why? BECAUSE MORE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE BUYING AMERICAN CARS. More demand means the price can go up and auto industry can make more money. YOU REMOVED THEIR COMPETITION to keep prices lower. So, the industry can double or triple the price of their cars before they hit ANY foregin competition. You also removed the competition for QUALITY. So, they can now make a lower quality product and people will buy it because there is no competition.

So, for the average person, this is NOT GOOD. They will end up paying more and getting a lower quality product.

Then there is the topic of imports costing less than American made. In your car scenerio, if imports cost $5k less on average...$20k for an import and $25k for American...as soon as that tax is implemented to price imports out of the competition you have %20 inflation on cars...because the average price of a car went up $5k because you removed the competition...and as described above, there will be economic pressure to raise the price even higher.

And, after prices are raised and the industry is making more money, they can cut the number of cars made because they are making more profit on a single car and therefore need to sell fewer cars to make the same profit. Since they can cut the number of cars made, they can cut the number of employees at the factories.

This is simple, basic, economics...something Republicans once understood.

So, for the average person, this is NOT GOOD. They will end up paying more and getting a lower quality product...and there will be FEWER factory jobs in the long term.

Well you could be right. I'm basing my opinions on my own experiences living in Japan, which was back when Trump was on the Oprah show back in the late 80's and a lot has changed over there since then. I also think that there are a lot of factors involved and we've not even discussed half of them all. When Trump was on the Oprah show and in his example of selling stuff in Japan, what he's referring to is how the Japanese government makes in nearly impossible for the US to sell items in Japan. They don't have a law against it, they just make it pretty much impossible with their rules, regulations, fees, etc. There are two factors I'm aware of in regards to this. First off, I had (and still have to this day) a classic American made muscle car (70' Cuda with a 440 6 pack). Back then I was thinking of importing it to Japan so I could have it there with me. The Japanese government won't allow me to import it into Japan, one being that they were afraid I'd sell it while I'm there. The Japanese consumers absolutely love America made products, back then. I knew guys who would sell their old Levi's 501 jeans for over a hundred bucks a pop. Biggest commodity was American alcohol and cigarettes. A 5th of JD was going for over $50 and closer to actually $75.00 and a hard pack of Marlboro cigarettes were close to $20. This was back in the late 80's mind you. It wasn't the fact that American made products were the best, it was because they were so damn hard to get because of how the Japanese government made it impossible to have them imported. The exception to this was the cigarettes. Japanese prefer American Tabaco in their cigarettes. The cigarettes they get over there over the counter consists of Philippine grown Tabaco and if you know anything about that, it's bland, not a great taste and isn't fortified with potent nicotine that the American grown Tabaco has in it, put there on purpose by the Tabaco companies to help you get hooked on it more. So we have that component of this issue. Another one which Trump also mentioned on the Oprah show was how the US allows countries to sell their materials and goods in the US but doesn't pay for that luxury, like we do when we try to sell our materials and goods in those countries.

So the Japanese offer cars that are great on gas and last virtually forever. Of course most people would pay the extra price for those options instead of buying American for a cheaper price but uses more fuel has I higher cost for more frequent maintenance & repairs and doesn't last that long.

The second reason it's hard to sell American goods over there is pretty much a byproduct of the first reason. Since the Japanese government makes it difficult, this drives up the prices of these things already there. In turn, most Japanese can't afford to purchase them, or aren't willing to pay those high prices.

There are a lot of components involved to factor in. About impossible to discuss all of them in a post here.

[JBlake]

Another thing you got to realize about Trump is, and I'm going to go back to that 1988 Oprah appearance and what Trump said on the show. Back then I was also spending a lot of time in Hong Kong. It was ironic but Trump was also there at the same time. He spent a lot of time in Hong Kong. The significance of this and my point being, he's got a vast amount of knowledge on how foreign governments do business with America. He's got first hand experiences, he's seen what they do and how they do it. So when I listen to what he's talking about on that show, I reflect of what he's obverted in these countries. A lot of people don't understand simply because they are unaware of so much of what is going on outside of America.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Welcome back sir. After what Clinton and the DNC did to Sanders, how could you not?

KC, as I said in the Obama/election thread constantly, Hillary was a non-starter for any real leftist. Trump, for all his flaws, was genuinely against TPP and represented a clean break from dynasty politics. Hillary was also the more war-mongering of the two. Even RFK's former speechwriter endorsed Trump as the peace candidate. When it came to an economic vision....Bernie offered Democratic Socialism, Trump offered some weird hybrid of Protectionism meets Supply Side...meanwhile, Hillary was too busy mentioning No Fly Zones against Russia. As James Carville said, "It's the economy stupid!" On top of all that, the DNC has yet to remove Donna Brazile from her leadership role even after she was caught leaking debate questions. All of these factors made my vote for Trump an easy one.

[tj]

Welcome back sir. After what Clinton and the DNC did to Sanders, how could you not?

KC, as I said in the Obama/election thread constantly, Hillary was a non-starter for any real leftist. Trump, for all his flaws, was genuinely against TPP and represented a clean break from dynasty politics. Hillary was also the more war-mongering of the two. Even RFK's former speechwriter endorsed Trump as the peace candidate. When it came to an economic vision....Bernie offered Democratic Socialism, Trump offered some weird hybrid of Protectionism meets Supply Side...meanwhile, Hillary was too busy mentioning No Fly Zones against Russia. As James Carville said, "It's the economy stupid!" On top of all that, the DNC has yet to remove Donna Brazile from her leadership role even after she was caught leaking debate questions. All of these factors made my vote for Trump an easy one.

And made it an easy one for many other thinking people as well. Unfortunately, too many of the Democrat Sheeple still can't see the myriad problems in their party. I think that if Hillary had not had such a lockdown on the party (i.e. emails, Brazille, etc.) and it had truly been an open primary, Trump might have run as a Democrat and won.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Welcome back sir. After what Clinton and the DNC did to Sanders, how could you not?

KC, as I said in the Obama/election thread constantly, Hillary was a non-starter for any real leftist. Trump, for all his flaws, was genuinely against TPP and represented a clean break from dynasty politics. Hillary was also the more war-mongering of the two. Even RFK's former speechwriter endorsed Trump as the peace candidate. When it came to an economic vision....Bernie offered Democratic Socialism, Trump offered some weird hybrid of Protectionism meets Supply Side...meanwhile, Hillary was too busy mentioning No Fly Zones against Russia. As James Carville said, "It's the economy stupid!" On top of all that, the DNC has yet to remove Donna Brazile from her leadership role even after she was caught leaking debate questions. All of these factors made my vote for Trump an easy one.

CNN was caught as well. I'm not 100% happy with everything Trump has done, even though I find myself defending him against the lies every day. He certainly screwed the pooch on his Visa stay. Now that we have a real DOJ, I look forward to the Clintons paying for their crimes. One thing I'm enjoying about Trump is he's pissing off Republican trash like McCain and Graham, along with Pelosi, Shummer, and Sackofshitwia on the other side. If nothing else, I hope he rids Washington of all the paid off trash in both Parties. Like I said, I wasn't for Trump, but now I know no one could have beat the scam the DNC and Clintons had, but Trump, and he did it with luck. Even though we are on different sides of the fence, welcome back.

The new EPA guy is pretty scummy. Otherwise, I have no major issues so far. I've never seen a president so embattled in my lifetime. And the hypocrisy is so stunning. We go from Hillary saying that "not respecting an election result is a threat to democracy" to Dems marching in the streets, demanding recounts, claiming Russia hacked, blaming gerrymandering...what a bunch of unpatriotic little bitches.

[Boomchild]

I didn't like it when trump was running and ripped John McCain. Once again, I've discovered Trump was right.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... 4#comments

It seems some forget McCain's pathetic run for POTUS against Obama. The guy needs to go. Every time criticism is made towards McCain the "war hero" shield is brought out. What he did as a member of our military is one thing and what he does as a politician is another. Also, at the start of Trump taking office there was a lot of talk about term limits. Now it seems to have died down. In my opinion, McCain is a perfect example for the need to have term limits.

[tj]

I didn't like it when trump was running and ripped John McCain. Once again, I've discovered Trump was right.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... 4#comments

It seems some forget McCain's pathetic run for POTUS against Obama. The guy needs to go. Every time criticism is made towards McCain the "war hero" shield is brought out. What he did as a member of our military is one thing and what he does as a politician is another. Also, at the start of Trump taking office there was a lot of talk about term limits. Now it seems to have died down. In my opinion, McCain is a perfect example for the need to have term limits.

McCain is a war hero. For that, he should be thanked.

Politics is another story. He has been lauded for years as a "Maverick" because he took stands which sometimes ran counter to the Republican position. He has never taken a stance, however, which has been counter to what is good for John McCain. Savings and Loan scandal is a great example.

[YoungJRNYfan]

The new EPA guy is pretty scummy. Otherwise, I have no major issues so far. I've never seen a president so embattled in my lifetime. And the hypocrisy is so stunning. We go from Hillary saying that "not respecting an election result is a threat to democracy" to Dems marching in the streets, demanding recounts, claiming Russia hacked, blaming gerrymandering...what a bunch of unpatriotic little bitches.

Watching all that bullshit made me sick. We are digressing in civility. Maybe another 911 attack can bring us together for about...2 weeks again. Shaking my damn head.

[Boomchild]

:D

http://americannews.com/trump-delivers- ... ere-party/

This is certainly an area that waste can be cut. The phones given out in this program should be basic phones, not even smart phones. If the program is designed to provide communication for "emergencies" then all the phone needs is a bare minimum of minutes on it. When this program was a hot topic in the news I remember a cell phone company in the philly area that was contracted to issue the phones had setup tent booths around town to have people obtain them. They got caught showing people how to answer the questions in order to be approved. I also remember sitting next to someone on the bus that was bragging how they had two smartphones. One she bought and paid for herself and the other she said was her "Obamaphone".

[Boomchild]

From Wikileaks:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kurt Campbell [mailto:kurtmcampbell@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2016 11:59 AM
> To: Laura Rosenberger <lrosenberger@hillaryclinton.com>; Jake Sullivan
> <jsullivan@hillaryclinton.com>; dschwerin@hillaryclinton.com; john podesta
> <jpodesta@americanprogress.org>; dkurtzphelan@gmail.com
> Subject: Ambassador Cui
>
> Guys - Chinese Ambassador Cui invited me over to the residence Tuesday for
> a coffee and to make a request. He wants to have an informal, private, off
> the record get together with a few of us to discuss the next year and the
> current state of US-China affairs. He asked me to host a social meal at my
> house in the next month. He was fairly insistent and indicated that he
> wanted to pass along some perspectives. I told him I'd reach out to you
> all to see about your judgement on this and possible availability. I'm
> happy to make some chili and cornbread by the fire but let's first decide
> whether this makes sense. Please let me know your thinking.
>
> Best,
> Kurt

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/44291

[Boomchild]

Interesting admission from someone in the MSM.

Brzezinski: ‘Our Job’ Is to Control ‘Exactly What People Think’

Controlling "exactly what people think" is the job of the media, MSNBC's Mika Brzezinski boldly declared Wednesday morning.

SCARBOROUGH: "Exactly. That is exactly what I hear. What Yamiche said is what I hear from all the Trump supporters that I talk to who were Trump voters and are still Trump supporters. They go, 'Yeah you guys are going crazy. He's doing -- what are you so surprised about? He is doing exactly what he said he is going to do.'"

BRZEZINSKI: "Well, I think that the dangerous, you know, edges here are that he is trying to undermine the media and trying to make up his own facts. And it could be that while unemployment and the economy worsens, he could have undermined the messaging so much that he can actually control exactly what people think. And that, that is our job."

https://news.grabien.com/story-brzezins ... ople-think

[Boomchild]

Well isn't this nice, another prisoner from Gitmo goes back to the battlefield.

British suicide bomber in Iraq had won compensation for Guantanamo stay

An Islamic State suicide bomber from Britain who blew himself up in an attack on Iraqi forces this week had been given compensation for his detention in the Guantanamo Bay military prison, Western security sources said on Wednesday.

Originally from the northern English city of Manchester, he converted to Islam in his 20s. He was detained in Afghanistan by U.S. special forces and taken to Guantanamo in 2002.

Britani was freed in 2004 after the government of then-Prime Minister Tony Blair lobbied for his release and later traveled to Syria to fight with Islamic State.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-midea ... ium=Social

[JBlake]

Well isn't this nice, another prisoner from Gitmo goes back to the battlefield.

British suicide bomber in Iraq had won compensation for Guantanamo stay

An Islamic State suicide bomber from Britain who blew himself up in an attack on Iraqi forces this week had been given compensation for his detention in the Guantanamo Bay military prison, Western security sources said on Wednesday.

Originally from the northern English city of Manchester, he converted to Islam in his 20s. He was detained in Afghanistan by U.S. special forces and taken to Guantanamo in 2002.

Britani was freed in 2004 after the government of then-Prime Minister Tony Blair lobbied for his release and later traveled to Syria to fight with Islamic State.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-midea ... ium=Social

Well look on the brighter side, we won't have to deal with that idiot any longer since he blew himself up. Only a shame is if he injured or took any lives with him.

[steveo777]

Prepare for the screaming to commence..again.


TRUMP ADMINISTRATION LIFTS TRANSGENDER BATHROOM GUIDANCE

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/ ... 2-19-10-17

Good! They need shrinks, not the federal government deciding they can use bathrooms that differ from their gender of birth. Less government is better! Got a dick....use the men's room. Got a vagina...use the ladies room. Really simple concept that has worked since the beginning of time. Stupid regulations put undue stress on businesses. We've gotta stop catering to all these freaks every time they identify as something and squeal about it. We are equal and that means no extra rights for some fringe groups. Bathroom rules shouldn't change for someone who decides to cross dress.

[Monker]

Prepare for the screaming to commence..again.


TRUMP ADMINISTRATION LIFTS TRANSGENDER BATHROOM GUIDANCE

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/ ... 2-19-10-17

Good! They need shrinks, not the federal government deciding they can use bathrooms that differ from their gender of birth. Less government is better! Got a dick....use the men's room. Got a vagina...use the ladies room. Really simple concept that has worked since the beginning of time. Stupid regulations put undue stress on businesses. We've gotta stop catering to all these freaks every time they identify as something and squeal about it. We are equal and that means no extra rights for some fringe groups. Bathroom rules shouldn't change for someone who decides to cross dress.

You're wrong.

When a state writes a law that describes who can use what bathroom, it opens up the possibility of that law being challenged in court as unconstitutional. As far as I know, every state Constitution has wording describing "equal protection under the law"...the 14th amendment to the US Constitution. That means the state can pass a law which discriminates against, or favors, a group of people. In recent years, that has included sexual orientation...example: gay marriage.

So, your weird desire to have gay, girly men, dressed in drag using the urinal next to yours because they can't use the ladies room, well, putting your sexual fantasies into the law forced the issue.

The solution is non-gender specific bathrooms...like the "family" ones I have seen at the mall. One stall, one sink, one door. No problem...except for those like you who have gay fantasies.

[JBlake]

Prepare for the screaming to commence..again.


TRUMP ADMINISTRATION LIFTS TRANSGENDER BATHROOM GUIDANCE

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/ ... 2-19-10-17

Good! They need shrinks, not the federal government deciding they can use bathrooms that differ from their gender of birth. Less government is better! Got a dick....use the men's room. Got a vagina...use the ladies room. Really simple concept that has worked since the beginning of time. Stupid regulations put undue stress on businesses. We've gotta stop catering to all these freaks every time they identify as something and squeal about it. We are equal and that means no extra rights for some fringe groups. Bathroom rules shouldn't change for someone who decides to cross dress.

I totally agree with you. Furthermore bathrooms are designed for one thing and one thing only, the transfer of human waste from person to the sewer system Period! The shitters and pissers are physically designed for the physical characteristics of the depositors, got a penis, use the men's, got a twat, use the females. Only exception would be if you're mental and got your dig jobbed off or your fussy sewed shut with the tummy handle instabbed. Those morons can still use the bathroom designed for the sex they were born as. WTF! Only Dem Libs would fuck with what bathroom to use. Only thing I liked about this stupid bathroom bullshit was these stupid fuckheads stayed out of the bathroom I use. But then again, had the normal public ordered these fucks to use a specific bathroom for them they would have screamed discrimination and hate. One big reason these fuckers "needed" that third fucking bathroom was purely for show. They wanted/needed to be recognized as "different". Fucking clowns can't even use a fucking bathroom like normal people do. No they had to be "special". And only Dem libs would spend so much fucking government effort and resources entertaining such bullshit.

[JBlake]

J.Blake, I take it you dissagree with Monkers horse shit post on the subject? Problem is it leads to stupid shit like this.

http://vesselnews.io/cnn-host-blames-in ... cker-room/

Actually I didn't read the Monkers post. But I'm sure it's what you say it is (Horseshit).