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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby JBlake » Wed Mar 01, 2017 5:25 am

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K.C.Journey Fan wrote::lol: http://www.nwahomepage.com/entertainmen ... /663632134 :lol:

32.9 million, about the same number of liberal voters.


While on this topic, it has been reported that in addition to the "best picture" snafu, when they were doing a tribute to actors\actresses that have died, the showed a picture of a actress that wasn't dead.


Seems to me that they couldn't possibly be that stupid to actually be making all these "mistakes" accidentally. I'm getting the feeling they did this stuff as publicity stunts. Remember the wardrobe malfunction? Same thing. If that show had gone on without a hitch, it wouldn't have been in the news, right? I didn't watch that crap but sure as hell been hearing all about the "mistakes". Had it not been for the "mistakes" I would have heard about that show just as much as a pin dropping in a haystack over in China.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Memorex » Wed Mar 01, 2017 5:48 am

This whole Russia thing is weird. So much coverage. So much talk. So many leaks. And yet so far not one single thing that is wrong, outside of Flynn leaving some shit out. And what he left out was not wrong in the first place.

With so many people out to get Trump, you'd think there would be something by now. I think it just needs to end and people wishing for something need to move on. Bigger issues to solve.

That said, I assume backdoor conversations go on all the time. That's how it works. Look at the 1.7 billion to Iran. Where was the media's fire about that?

It's getting so old.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby JBlake » Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:21 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Well they are stupid enough to think people were watching. Fact is, after Kemmel said "we are now broadcasted in 225 countries that now hate us because of Trump". If that's true and it was seen in 225 countries, and I have no doubt it is, 32.9 million viewers is pretty piss poor. The only reason I know anything about it is because of Fox making fun of it. I had to dig to find viewership numbers. That seems to be a missing story on Yahoo. It isn't because of Trump, it's because people are sick of liberals and they are just too stupid to see it. Their lies and vile aren't working.


What's he mean by "broadcasted:? The award show? If so, I think he gave the 225 figure just for the ignorant joke comment on how many hate us because of Trump. I seriously doubt many people from 225 countries actually tuned in to watch a bunch of white hypocrite rich people giving awards to token non-white people and pat each other on the back for movie acting well done.

Plus why would so many countries hate America only a few months into Trump's presidency? He's not been in long enough to do anything to cause that to that many countries. Sure, maybe Iran, etc. but go figure.

I've seen pix in news articles shot at that award show and I got to tell you, I've never seen so many rich white people all in one room in a long time. That's probably one of the only places left where the rich white people outnumber everyone else in the room. That was one serious crackerfest.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:41 am

This whole Russia thing is weird. So much coverage. So much talk. So many leaks. And yet so far not one single thing that is wrong, outside of Flynn leaving some shit out. And what he left out was not wrong in the first place.


Damn right it's "weird". It's "weird" how the entire Flynn thing went down, with Kelly Ann showing support and then an hour later, he's fired, and then the next day Trump blames the media...and the Trump knew about the "lie" for weeks prior.

I said way back that he is entering office with both the house and senate investigting him, and the FBI. Trump's administration is in trouble.

They have not found anything because they have JUST STARTED investigating. Do you not know that the house and senate have not questioned a single person regarding this? They have not reviewed ANY evidence provided by the FBI or anybody else. Do you not understand why they asked for documents to not be destroyed? This is a long and slow process...and it has barely started.

You may say it's "not wrong" but if there is a phone call that the NSA has of anybody in the Trump administrations cooperating with Russia to win the election, Trump is going to be in trouble...big trouble.

With so many people out to get Trump, you'd think there would be something by now.


Not true. This is the FBI and NSA, not some hack whistle-blower. They are not going to leak anything that condemning. Watch "All the Presidents Men". Deep Throat didn't leak "proof", he only verified suspicions or other witnesses and tried to keep them on the right track. That is what I see going on here...

I think it just needs to end and people wishing for something need to move on. Bigger issues to solve.


There is no bigger issue than Russia hacking into our election process and cooperating with one party to defeat the other. EVERYBODY should be wanting to know EXACTLY what happened.

That said, I assume backdoor conversations go on all the time. That's how it works. Look at the 1.7 billion to Iran. Where was the media's fire about that?


Since that money was owed to Iran anyway, it wasn't much of a story. Yes, the timing made it obvious that it was part of the deal...but it IS Iran's money. And, it was in the newws for at least a week...it's not like it wasn't covered.

So, yes, these conversations happen. They are not "illegal". BUT, if you can't see how Trump conspiring with Russia to win the election is going to be a bad thing for him, then you are way underestimating the subject.

It's getting so old.


Wait until this time next year when it is still going on and Trump is up to his neck in this shit...
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Wed Mar 01, 2017 8:02 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:[
Well they are stupid enough to think people were watching. Fact is, after Kemmel said "we are now broadcasted in 225 countries that now hate us because of Trump". If that's true and it was seen in 225 countries, and I have no doubt it is, 32.9 million viewers is pretty piss poor. The only reason I know anything about it is because of Fox making fun of it. I had to dig to find viewership numbers. That seems to be a missing story on Yahoo. It isn't because of Trump, it's because people are sick of liberals and they are just too stupid to see it. Their lies and vile aren't working.


You are taking Nielsen numbers for the US and applying them world wide. Forbes did the same thing.

There is no way to know the exact world wide numbers. The GUESS is several hundred million.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby JBlake » Wed Mar 01, 2017 8:26 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:
Well they are stupid enough to think people were watching. Fact is, after Kemmel said "we are now broadcasted in 225 countries that now hate us because of Trump". If that's true and it was seen in 225 countries, and I have no doubt it is, 32.9 million viewers is pretty piss poor. The only reason I know anything about it is because of Fox making fun of it. I had to dig to find viewership numbers. That seems to be a missing story on Yahoo. It isn't because of Trump, it's because people are sick of liberals and they are just too stupid to see it. Their lies and vile aren't working.


A more realistic figure would be 225 counties, not countries.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Memorex » Wed Mar 01, 2017 8:48 am

Monker wrote:Damn right it's "weird". It's "weird" how the entire Flynn thing went down, with Kelly Ann showing support and then an hour later, he's fired, and then the next day Trump blames the media...and the Trump knew about the "lie" for weeks prior.


Dude, my whole point is that it's an investigation into what? Flynn had a conversation after the election. A normal conversation that was his job to have. Along with many other countries.

Someone says "Did Trump's team have contact with the Russian's" and suddenly that's an investigation? Shouldn't you at least have something to investigate? When I think of an investigation, usually there has to be at least some hint of a crime. All we have is the media suggesting their are ties. But what is it that they are even pointing to. The answer can't simply be "Let's see".

It's all such a distraction and a way to drum up opposition. I'd like to know the basis is all.

Maybe I am missing something because I am sick of it, but I have not heard one single thing where there was some act committed before the election having anything to do with Russia and Trump. Not one. I keep hearing what ifs and let's see's, but no basis. That's why it's weird.

If all of it is based on that dossier, then I won't even continue this conversation. That document is obviously fake and not something worthy of even giving an ounce of credence to. FBI agrees, Obama agreed, and Biden agreed. Is there anything other than that?
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Andrew » Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:35 am

Trump is a fucking nightmare turned real.

I can't believe this bozo got voted in - WTF America? The rest of the world can only look and think WTF just happened.

He's up to his neck in Russian money and hookers. Who bailed him out in the 80s? Russian mobsters.

Watch those sanctions get lifted, watch the puppets behind him unravel their agenda. Watch the world step closer to a major war at the tiny hands of this bloated, self-obsessed child.

Thank you and goodnight.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:42 am

Iraqi officers find Islamic State members hidden among refugees fleeing Mosul

A few hundred men who had scurried across front lines in a refugee exodus from Mosul sat on the ground in neat rows before an Iraqi intelligence officer who scanned the crowd for hidden militants.

The officer pulled a teenager onto a raised platform and asked the group if he belonged to Islamic State (IS). Muffled groans were followed by nods and muttered comments.

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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby verslibre » Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:55 am

Fact Finder wrote:Truth of the matter is that a lot of countries were glad that Trump won. They may not shout it from the rooftops, but some were happy.


FYI: "a lot" and "some" don't mean the same thing. :lol:
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:56 am

Memorex wrote:
Monker wrote:Damn right it's "weird". It's "weird" how the entire Flynn thing went down, with Kelly Ann showing support and then an hour later, he's fired, and then the next day Trump blames the media...and the Trump knew about the "lie" for weeks prior.


Dude, my whole point is that it's an investigation into what? Flynn had a conversation after the election. A normal conversation that was his job to have. Along with many other countries.


You're right...and I'm not denying that. It is my guess that the FBI has some pretty damning evidence they were given by the NSA...and that has not reached the committees yet.

BUT, it is the FBI leading this...not some Democrat led witchhunt.

Someone says "Did Trump's team have contact with the Russian's" and suddenly that's an investigation?


No, that is not what I understood. The NSA was monitoring Russia and heard Trump people in the conversations. The NSA told the FBI. The FBI told the NSA to focus on those people and let them know what they find. That is when the FBI started their investigation. That SOUNDS minor...but, EVERY phone call, EVERY email, EVERY communication passes through the NSA sniffers. It is a big deal to have that level of scrutiny...and if Trump or anybody else screwed up, they were caught - guaranteed.

Shouldn't you at least have something to investigate? When I think of an investigation, usually there has to be at least some hint of a crime.


No, there doesn't have to be a crime. This is regarding the security of the US and Russian influence in our election. The FBI and NSA are within their bounds to investigate that, not as a crime but to find any security threats and take care of them. Trump himself may be a security threat. There was a story out not too long ago that the FBI was limiting Trump's intelligence briefings to not tell him certain things. I don't know what happened to that story, or if it was true or not. However, it does fit into where this investigation has been going. The FBI may not trust Trump to keep US secrets from Russia.

All we have is the media suggesting their are ties.


No. You have the media reporting that the FBI is suggesting there are ties.

It's all such a distraction and a way to drum up opposition. I'd like to know the basis is all.


It's a very poor way to drum up opposition. It is not political when it is the intelligence community leading things. This is not like Benghazi where Republicans were constantly insisting Clinton broke the law. It is the FBI (and NSA in an implied way) saying that Trump's team, and maybe even Trump himself, are threats to the security of the United States.

Maybe I am missing something because I am sick of it, but I have not heard one single thing where there was some act committed before the election having anything to do with Russia and Trump. Not one. I keep hearing what ifs and let's see's, but no basis. That's why it's weird.


And, you won't hear much until the committees start being shown the FBI evidence and witnesses are questioned.

If all of it is based on that dossier, then I won't even continue this conversation. That document is obviously fake and not something worthy of even giving an ounce of credence to. FBI agrees, Obama agreed, and Biden agreed. Is there anything other than that?[/quote]
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby verslibre » Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:56 am

Andrew wrote:Trump is a fucking nightmare turned real.

I can't believe this bozo got voted in - WTF America? The rest of the world can only look and think WTF just happened.

He's up to his neck in Russian money and hookers. Who bailed him out in the 80s? Russian mobsters.

Watch those sanctions get lifted, watch the puppets behind him unravel their agenda. Watch the world step closer to a major war at the tiny hands of this bloated, self-obsessed child.

Thank you and goodnight.


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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:00 pm

verslibre wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:Truth of the matter is that a lot of countries were glad that Trump won. They may not shout it from the rooftops, but some were happy.


FYI: "a lot" and "some" don't mean the same thing. :lol:


Maybe there are three or four who were "glad", and Russia was "happy"...and that up and maybe it means "a lot" to FF.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Memorex » Wed Mar 01, 2017 2:58 pm

Andrew wrote:Trump is a fucking nightmare turned real.

I can't believe this bozo got voted in - WTF America? The rest of the world can only look and think WTF just happened.

He's up to his neck in Russian money and hookers. Who bailed him out in the 80s? Russian mobsters.

Watch those sanctions get lifted, watch the puppets behind him unravel their agenda. Watch the world step closer to a major war at the tiny hands of this bloated, self-obsessed child.

Thank you and goodnight.


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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby steveo777 » Wed Mar 01, 2017 6:58 pm

Andrew wrote:Trump is a fucking nightmare turned real.

I can't believe this bozo got voted in - WTF America? The rest of the world can only look and think WTF just happened.

He's up to his neck in Russian money and hookers. Who bailed him out in the 80s? Russian mobsters.

Watch those sanctions get lifted, watch the puppets behind him unravel their agenda. Watch the world step closer to a major war at the tiny hands of this bloated, self-obsessed child.

Thank you and goodnight.


Wrong!

I love your reviews. You should stick to that. You suck at picking winners and losers in politics. That's my President dude!
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Memorex » Thu Mar 02, 2017 1:05 am

Fact Finder wrote:Dow breaks above 21,000 as stocks hit all-time highs after Trump's speech!


I continue to believe that this level is so over-inflated. Nothing new about that, but the heights it's reaching could make for a very brutal fall, unlike anything we've seen. I'm no expert. I think the bump based on optimism is real, but the overall level is not based in reality.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby conversationpc » Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:09 am

Memorex wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:Dow breaks above 21,000 as stocks hit all-time highs after Trump's speech!


I continue to believe that this level is so over-inflated. Nothing new about that, but the heights it's reaching could make for a very brutal fall, unlike anything we've seen. I'm no expert. I think the bump based on optimism is real, but the overall level is not based in reality.


It's good for the economy but unless there is some kind of radical reduction in our debt, it's bound to fail big at some point, regardless of who is in the Oval Office.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:32 am

Monker wrote:I don't think so. The investigations are JUST STARTING with Russia and the Trump campaign collusion. To say it is all bullshit before the investigation has even really started is loopy. You can post whatever you want to, but when it contradicts reality, it makes YOU look stupid. And, I hardly ever post articles....mostly because they are not worth the effort. But, that last one that V posted was really good.


I see Monker is still towing the Democratic Party line like a good card-carrying little bitch. Originally, Trump was treated as a joke. HuffPo (a joke by itself) wouldn't even feature him in the politics section. Now, after getting their smug asses kicked, Trump has been turned into part of a devious Manchurian candidate. Get a grip. Trump ran a horrible campaign. He was on the campaign trail rambling incoherently and promoting his line of spring water/steaks. But Hillary's poll-tested insincerity and corruption was even more off-putting. So you lost BIGLY. The Russia saber-rattling was promoted by Neocons like McCain and Hillary looong before Trump entered the race.

Monker wrote:When it is made public that Trump conspired with Russia and WikiLeaks to win the election, he is going to be under huge pressure to resign. And, he should....regardless of what is printed in alt-conservative crap. But, Trump won't be Nixon, he would rather take the entire country down then quit and imply his guilt.


First off....Reagan conspired with the Iranians to undermine Carter. Nixon conspired with Vietnam to undermine sitting president LBJ. In both cases, NOTHING happened. And those instances were true - unlike the Wikileaks nonsense. Wiki is a clearing house for leaked emails. They don't hack anything. And Russia hacking the DNC - a private website - is not even a taxpayer concern. The "Russia hacking" story is the biggest bunch of BS I've seen since the Iraq/WMD lie.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:36 am

steveo777 wrote:Show us facts to back your suspicions. So far there is zero evidence to prove anything you claim, other than "sources say". I know truth is uncomfortable for left wingers, but when this thing turns out to be a big bowl of nothing chowder, what will ya say?


He can't. Half of the Russia stories put out by the mainstream media (like the Washington Post one about Putin hacking Vermont's electric grid) have to be retracted. It's all transparent bullshit. The NYTimes last week had an above-the-fold story about Trump campaign and Russia being in constant contact. Then, in small font in the body of the story it says "The officials interviewed in recent weeks said that, so far, they had seen no evidence of such cooperation."
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby JBlake » Thu Mar 02, 2017 3:44 am

Andrew wrote:Trump is a fucking nightmare turned real.

I can't believe this bozo got voted in - WTF America? The rest of the world can only look and think WTF just happened.

He's up to his neck in Russian money and hookers. Who bailed him out in the 80s? Russian mobsters.

Watch those sanctions get lifted, watch the puppets behind him unravel their agenda. Watch the world step closer to a major war at the tiny hands of this bloated, self-obsessed child.

Thank you and goodnight.


Well I'll give you credit where credit is do, in that you're being honest and forthcoming. Plus you've not deleted posts and/or closed accounts of those who support Trump. That's more then I can say for 90% + of those who do not like Trump and actually have the authority to do such things.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:21 am

JBlake wrote:
Andrew wrote:Trump is a fucking nightmare turned real.

I can't believe this bozo got voted in - WTF America? The rest of the world can only look and think WTF just happened.

He's up to his neck in Russian money and hookers. Who bailed him out in the 80s? Russian mobsters.

Watch those sanctions get lifted, watch the puppets behind him unravel their agenda. Watch the world step closer to a major war at the tiny hands of this bloated, self-obsessed child.

Thank you and goodnight.


Well I'll give you credit where credit is do, in that you're being honest and forthcoming. Plus you've not deleted posts and/or closed accounts of those who support Trump. That's more then I can say for 90% + of those who do not like Trump and actually have the authority to do such things.


Pretty sure Australia has extreme vetting. As for Russia sanctions...they never have should have been imposed in the first place. A last minute dick move by lame duck administration on the basis of an intel report so shoddy that it looked like a stoner freshman's PowerPoint project.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:28 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Truth is TNC, Australia put Syrians on a island and wouldn't let them into their country. Then Trump found out Obama made a deal just before he left office to take all of them. I don't know whats happened since, it fell off the media radar after Trump called it a stupid deal. I wonder how long it's going to take liberals to figure out that Trump is not a Republican or Democrat? Last nights speech pissed some hard core rights as well as the lefts spoiled children. I think Fauxcohantus shit herself last night.


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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby steveo777 » Thu Mar 02, 2017 3:33 pm

Fact Finder wrote:Looks like Trumpster beat the Oscars by 10 million viewers in the USA.

Pres. Trump’s Address to Congress Watched By 43.4 Million on TV


Good! I don't watch those shitty shows anymore. Maybe if enough of us stop watching, they'll get the message that we don't care what people who live on fantasy island think about politics. :P
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:45 am

Show us facts to back your suspicions. So far there is zero evidence to prove anything you claim, other than "sources say".


I have already explained that there are no 'facts' to show because the investigation HAS JUST STARTED. In addition to that, since these are top secret secured investigations, the only "facts" you will get will be leaked...unless they move the investigation out of the committies and into an independent prosecutor.

I know truth is uncomfortable for left wingers, but when this thing turns out to be a big bowl of nothing chowder, what will ya say?


I'll say I was wrong. But, until then, an investigation started by the FBI due to NSA intelligence is not evidence of a Democrat witch hunt. This is not about the dosier. That is what TRUMPIANS want you to believe...and the amount of misdirection Trump has been engaged in only deepens my suspicion that something really bad was found. If and when you start hearing, or reading transcripts of, phone calls Trump and his people made, THEN you will know why this investigation happened.


Here is the inconvenient truth; the Democrats can't take the loss on it's own merits. They have no fucking mirrors in their own houses. Therefore, they must blame their loss on something, or someone else.


How does the FBI starting an investigation have anything to do with Democrat angst? You are repeating TRUMP's words, almost quoting him. It has nothing to do with Democrats feelings. If you want to see that, look at the protests since the day after he won the election.

Yes, it can be. Hillary Clinton was a tired, retread of something Americans no longer want. If you unplug her votes out of the very liberal state of California, she would have also lost the popular vote.


And, there you go repeating the Republican line again. The FACT is she won the popular vote. You can't take that away from her any more than Democrats can take away the Electoral vote. However you look at it, Trump did not have this big win as he seems to believe. He won a very close election. That is the truth.

Americans were tired of identity politics and social justice bullshit. Seems the platform was all about injustice, racism, LGBTQ, bathroom issues, income inequality and making enemies out of the other side. Democrats use classes of people, whom they call victims, as props for sympathy and votes. Once they have the votes, they don't give a shit about people, as demonstrated for many years. Where you find democrats governing black and minority communities, you find poverty. Nothing ever changes.


And, there you go quoting Republicans AGAIN.

"Americans were tired of..." Not true from your very first words. SOME Americans were tired of...blah, blah, blah. Most Americans were unhappy with both candidates and most are now unhappy with Trump.

Enter the 2018 mid-terms and a festering,still angry electorate, expect the Democrats to lose exactly 10 seats in the Senate. If the Democrat's policies are so god damn good, why are they losing so many seats? (over 1000 seats since Obama took office) Democrats are done for the next 20 or 30 years.


They lose because Democrats are pussies who do not fight for what they believe in. Predicting such a thing for 2018 is way off. You don't know what is going to happened between now and then. When Trump finally starts trying to legislate his agenda, that is when you are going to see things become clear.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Memorex » Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:29 am

All I will add is that the whole Russia thing and the way the media is action, like with this latest Sessions thing which is just stupid on it's face, is exactly, and I mean exactly, how Trump got elected and the Dems have lost so much power.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:45 am

First off....Reagan conspired with the Iranians to undermine Carter. Nixon conspired with Vietnam to undermine sitting president LBJ. In both cases, NOTHING happened.


Iran and Vietnam were not hacking into our elections. This is the equal to Vietnam sending people to help break into Watergate or Iran wanting the US to send weapons to release the hostages.

And those instances were true - unlike the Wikileaks nonsense. Wiki is a clearing house for leaked emails. They don't hack anything. And Russia hacking the DNC - a private website - is not even a taxpayer concern. The "Russia hacking" story is the biggest bunch of BS I've seen since the Iraq/WMD lie.


We'll see...because as I have tried to say, we do not know the whole story. Only the FBI and NSA do at this point.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:44 am

And, here is a good summary of the entire Russian scandal:

http://www.politico.com/trump-russia-ties-scandal-guide
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Memorex » Fri Mar 03, 2017 7:12 am

Monker wrote:And, here is a good summary of the entire Russian scandal:

http://www.politico.com/trump-russia-ties-scandal-guide


I was hoping to finally understand all the hubbub. Oh my God what a nothing burger. Like I said, What If's are not evidence of some crime.

The media and never-Trumpers are behind this. Reports out that Obama's people were spreading info.

It's like this: Uncomfirmed reports from unnamed sources have indicated Monker diddles little boys. Now, we have seen no evidence of this, but it must be investigated to see what's there. If Monker diddled little boys, he could be fired and jailed, These are serious crimes.

So far, that is all that this is. I truly have not seen or heard anything different than that. My concern is it prevents actual normal relations with Russia.

It also says Intelligence Agencies concluded that Russia was behind the hacks. No one has seen proof of that either. Simply that there are some indications. But even in their own reports they say they are not certain. Assange says no and that guy has been 100% correct on things. There was also an effort by our government to destroy him with fake evidence, which was proven false.

Anyway, until you address these boy-diddling concerns, since a crime of that nature must be addressed, I don't think you should post here any further.

See the absurdity? Or do you just want this to be true so bad, like Drew and the media, that you will suspend common sense? Like calling Session's meetings with Russian officials "secret". Secret meetings in his office on the public record while doing his job. So silly. This is a total distraction.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Monker » Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:23 am

Memorex wrote:The media and never-Trumpers are behind this. Reports out that Obama's people were spreading info.


You are simply flat out wrong. The media has nothing to do with the FBI investigation. The Democrats and the anti-Trump people (which includes some Republicans now), have nothing to do with the FBI investigation. The TRUMPIANS are blaming them...because they do not want to deal with the FACT that the intelligence community (FBI *AND* NSA) are investigating them.

You are in denial.

It's like this: Uncomfirmed reports from unnamed sources have indicated Monker diddles little boys. Now, we have seen no evidence of this, but it must be investigated to see what's there. If Monker diddled little boys, he could be fired and jailed, These are serious crimes.


LOL. So, what. I've deal with worse than that. It's not like it's the FBI investigating me.

I truly have not seen or heard anything different than that. My concern is it prevents actual normal relations with Russia.


You do realize that what the FBI is doing is top secret, correct? The public is not supposed to know the details. Even the committees' findings will be secret. So, if you want answers so much, demand a public independent hearing. Then you will know everything the committees know.

It also says Intelligence Agencies concluded that Russia was behind the hacks. No one has seen proof of that either.


And, that is also classified. But, EVERYBODY - including Donald Trump - agrees that Russia is behind it. There is no argument there, except with you not believing it.

Anyway, until you address these boy-diddling concerns, since a crime of that nature must be addressed, I don't think you should post here any further.


Complain to Andrew then, and see where it goes.

See the absurdity?


Not really...not much different then many things I have had to deal with on this forum in the past.

Or do you just want this to be true so bad, like Drew and the media, that you will suspend common sense?


Common sense says that when the FBI investigates a classified issue that you are not going to get any info, except leaks.

Common sense says that when congressional committees investigate anything that you are not going to get much info from them when the investigation has not even really started. It is also common sense that you are not going to get much info out of a classified congressional investigation, unless there are leaks.

Like calling Session's meetings with Russian officials "secret". Secret meetings in his office on the public record while doing his job. So silly. This is a total distraction.


He also said he had no contact with the Russians, which was obviously a lie. That is enough to convince me that he should recuse himself from the investigation and it should be an independent investigation. IMO, that is just common sense....and it seems some Republicans even agree with that. It is also obvious to me that Trump is scared to death of an independent investigation.

By this time next year, Trump is going to up to his neck in this shit. Ironic because he was spouting off during the campaign on how horrible four years of continuous investigations of Clinton would be. Wonder how voters will feel about four years of Trump investigations...if he makes it through his term without resigning and with a heartbeat.
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Re: President Donald J. Trump - Term 1 Thread

Postby Andrew » Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:17 am

JBlake wrote:
Andrew wrote:Trump is a fucking nightmare turned real.

I can't believe this bozo got voted in - WTF America? The rest of the world can only look and think WTF just happened.

He's up to his neck in Russian money and hookers. Who bailed him out in the 80s? Russian mobsters.

Watch those sanctions get lifted, watch the puppets behind him unravel their agenda. Watch the world step closer to a major war at the tiny hands of this bloated, self-obsessed child.

Thank you and goodnight.


Well I'll give you credit where credit is do, in that you're being honest and forthcoming. Plus you've not deleted posts and/or closed accounts of those who support Trump. That's more then I can say for 90% + of those who do not like Trump and actually have the authority to do such things.


I think most here are mature enough to weather opposing opinions. We've been here a while now :)
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