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K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Monker wrote:K.C.Journey Fan wrote:It was a Youtube/CNN link of all the liberals like Reid, Pelosi, Liawatha, Waters,Schummer, ect calling for Comey's ass three months ago.
That is not true. It was a bunch of clips of those people asking Comey to resign, not to be fired. NONE of the clips that have been posted so far have asked Trump to fire Comey.
They wanted his ass canned. Resign,fired, they wanted his ass gone. Nice try at spin though.
Monker wrote:
They all said it was time for him to resign. That was it. Period. No ass involved.
Fact Finder wrote:Crazy like a fox, or madman?
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
James Comey better hope that there are no "tapes" of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press!
8:26 AM · May 12, 2017
Memorex wrote:Fact Finder wrote:Crazy like a fox, or madman?
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
James Comey better hope that there are no "tapes" of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press!
8:26 AM · May 12, 2017
I think this was the worst tweet I've seen. Firestorm incoming. I think this is one he wish he could have back.
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Splitting hairs over a word. Certainly they hated Comey and wanted him gone, until Trump did it.
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opi ... story.html
Monker wrote: Comey has not been an issue that Democrats (or Republicans) have talked about in months. So, this entire conversation is just bullshit and distraction from the real reason he was fired.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Monker wrote:
They all said it was time for him to resign. That was it. Period. No ass involved.
As recently as May 2nd, Hillary blamed Jim Comey and said if not for him "I would be your president."
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Monker wrote: Comey has not been an issue that Democrats (or Republicans) have talked about in months. So, this entire conversation is just bullshit and distraction from the real reason he was fired.
Both Hillary Clinton and John Podesta, hugely influential Democrats, mentioned Comey just a few days ago.
05/02/2017 "I was on the way to winning until a combination of Jim Comey's letter on October 28 and Russian WikiLeaks raised doubts in the minds of..."
05/09/2017 "The American public is getting mildly nauseous listening to Jim Comey."
Monker wrote:They were not asking him to be fired, or to quit. THAT is my point.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Monker wrote:They were not asking him to be fired, or to quit. THAT is my point.
When he inserted himself into the election, they certainly did. All this proves is that the Democrats are all over the place. One minute, Comey is part of a Soviet plot. The next minute, he is a heroic G-Man. They are completely adrift in the wilderness and so are you.
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The_Noble_Cause wrote:Monker wrote:They were not asking him to be fired, or to quit. THAT is my point.
When he inserted himself into the election, they certainly did. All this proves is that the Democrats are all over the place. One minute, Comey is part of a Soviet plot. The next minute, he is a heroic G-Man. They are completely adrift in the wilderness and so are you.
tj wrote:http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/05/12/white-house-staff-react-in-real-time-as-trump-tweets-jesus
Trump's undoing will be at his own hand if he keeps this up.
It's hard enough to move an agenda forward in politics, but when you continually blow up your own narrative and/or don't your team you have one, you are shooting yourself in both feet and the crotch.
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Monker wrote:K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Splitting hairs over a word. Certainly they hated Comey and wanted him gone, until Trump did it.
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opi ... story.html
No, it's not just a 'word'. It's the attitude of "they want his ass". That WAS NOT being expressed in the video that you posted. They were ALL simply saying it was time for him to resign. Comey has not been an issue that Democrats (or Republicans) have talked about in months. So, this entire conversation is just bullshit and distraction from the real reason he was fired.
They were saying "HE SHOULD STEP DOWN". They wanted his ass.
Monker wrote:So, yeah, you are just being a good Trump minion and are now obsesses with Comey's ass and have some weird desire to talk about Comey's ass in every post.
Monker wrote:tj wrote:http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/05/12/white-house-staff-react-in-real-time-as-trump-tweets-jesus
Trump's undoing will be at his own hand if he keeps this up.
I said that months ago. He is going to do "something" that HE believes is right and legal and justified. But, REALITY will be that it very wrong, illegal, and could have been handled in a MUCH better way.
Trump has come VERY close to admitting he was obstructing justice in the midst of his talking about firing Comey. He came to the conclusion to fire him after watching him testify. When he made the decision, he was thinking to himself about the Trump/Russia thing and how it was made up by Democrats. If he took one more step down path, he would be impeached.It's hard enough to move an agenda forward in politics, but when you continually blow up your own narrative and/or don't your team you have one, you are shooting yourself in both feet and the crotch.
I haven't kept up on everything he is saying. What did he say that was close to obstructing justice?
Ivanka may be the only one who can reel him in. She, her husband and her brothers have to just peeing themselves over this.
He doesn't care...as long as it is not someone else throwing HIM under the bus. He'll do it to whoever he feels a need to.
The problem is, you REALLY can not believe ANYTHING being said by the Whitehouse now...it is ALL made up crap, OBVIOUSLY.
tj wrote:Monker wrote:tj wrote:http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/05/12/white-house-staff-react-in-real-time-as-trump-tweets-jesus
Trump's undoing will be at his own hand if he keeps this up.
I said that months ago. He is going to do "something" that HE believes is right and legal and justified. But, REALITY will be that it very wrong, illegal, and could have been handled in a MUCH better way.
Trump has come VERY close to admitting he was obstructing justice in the midst of his talking about firing Comey. He came to the conclusion to fire him after watching him testify. When he made the decision, he was thinking to himself about the Trump/Russia thing and how it was made up by Democrats. If he took one more step down path, he would be impeached.It's hard enough to move an agenda forward in politics, but when you continually blow up your own narrative and/or don't your team you have one, you are shooting yourself in both feet and the crotch.
I haven't kept up on everything he is saying. What did he say that was close to obstructing justice?
Ivanka may be the only one who can reel him in. She, her husband and her brothers have to just peeing themselves over this.
He doesn't care...as long as it is not someone else throwing HIM under the bus. He'll do it to whoever he feels a need to.
The problem is, you REALLY can not believe ANYTHING being said by the Whitehouse now...it is ALL made up crap, OBVIOUSLY.
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:verslibre wrote:Monker wrote:So, yeah, you are just being a good Trump minion and are now obsesses with Comey's ass and have some weird desire to talk about Comey's assin every post.
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slucero wrote:Since the Left thinks Trump firing Comey means he is "hiding something"...
May 1993 - FBI opened investigation into Travel Office firings
July 19th 1993 - FBI Director William Sessions fired by President Bill Clinton
July 20th 1993 - Long time Clinton confidant and Deputy White House Counsel Vince Foster suicide
I wonder what Bill Clinton was hiding...
K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Monker, You can lie and try to spin out of it, as usual, all you want, THEY WANTED HIM OUT, not just dropping it, as you are implying. You and Verussy can get excited about his ass, I'm just saying they wanted it out, which is quite clear in what I posted. Why do liberals lie about everything?
Memorex wrote:Comey should have been fired. I think all sides agree. Dems are looking at everything Trump does and want to turn it into an impeachable offense. Comey became the story and that was Comey's fault. He started becoming the Marcia Clark of everything and that hampers progress. It puzzled both sides that he laid out all the crimes Hillary committed, and then gave her a pass. Like the letter recommending his termination stated, you don't talk in negative terms about someone you have decided not to prosecute. So one side is glad he at least laid it out but they are pissed at him for not treating her like every other "regular" American and the other side is pissed at him for spelling out that she broke so many laws in the first place. Then the letter last minute, and again no prosecution. At some point, it's more about Comey than the cases he is supposed to be investigating. Frankly, Comey was acting politically and trying to avoid issues with his bosses and others. That's not how the head of the FBI should be acting.
I can't tell you how many people I know, from all sides, that are so sick of this Russia thing. You can't go 4 or 5 months of beating a drum with no evidence. The mantra can't be "we want to see if there is something there." It's a lot of wasted time, effort, money, and most importantly, discussion time. People want to talk about other things. Russia did nothing different in the 2016 election than they have done in past elections. There is, so far, zero evidence of Trump team collusion with Russia. If our government is so slow that they can't find anything in the past 4 or 5 months if there is something, that's pretty fucking sad. But more likely is that there is nothing. Because it started with nothing. There is no event that caused this to be a thing except the Dems unwillingness to accept the results of an election. I guess like the birthers. Except the press sides with Trump haters so it becomes a much bigger thing.
If my Boss said to me "Memorex, I think some of our employees have been colluding with our competition. Get to the bottom of it.", I'd be fired within a month if I had nothing to report. Maybe a week. It does not take forever to find shit out. It's time to move on for God's sake.
The number one issue we have right now is the press. They are spinning everything so hard that it is further dividing this country. Doesn't look like it is going to stop. So who knows where we go from here.
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Monker wrote:slucero wrote:Since the Left thinks Trump firing Comey means he is "hiding something"...
May 1993 - FBI opened investigation into Travel Office firings
July 19th 1993 - FBI Director William Sessions fired by President Bill Clinton
July 20th 1993 - Long time Clinton confidant and Deputy White House Counsel Vince Foster suicide
I wonder what Bill Clinton was hiding...
Wow, so full of conspiracy theories.
Sessions was fired after a probe into ethics violations. If he had not fired him you all would be complaining that Clinton allowed Sessions to get away with abusing his office.
Contrast that to Trump...there was already an investigation into Comey's handling of the Clinton case. Trump did not wait for that to conclude and fired him anyway...But, he also stated that the AG memo's were not what convinced him...it was his testimony that convinced him. And, he also admitted that when he made the decision, he was thinking about the Trump/Russia/Collusion thing. Trump isn't hiding much...he easily implied he was trying to bring an end to the Russian investigation and did not like how Comey was handling it.
Monker wrote:Contrast that to Trump...there was already an investigation into Comey's handling of the Clinton case. Trump did not wait for that to conclude and fired him anyway...But, he also stated that the AG memo's were not what convinced him...it was his testimony that convinced him. And, he also admitted that when he made the decision, he was thinking about the Trump/Russia/Collusion thing. Trump isn't hiding much...he easily implied he was trying to bring an end to the Russian investigation and did not like how Comey was handling it.
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