DC Extended Universe THREAD

[Abitaman]

Just got back from seeing WW. THE BEST BEST, superhero movie, period! Not talking DC, or Marvel, I am I am talking any company, Studio, franchise, anything.

Nope. Not better than MegaMind. Not even close.

If we are counting non live action, it would be Incredibles, not Megamind.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Interesting, her face looks a bit fat here. She must have gained some weight, or maybe is pregnant.

Why is this interesting? We all know Gadot was pregnant and even filmed scenes in JL WHILE prego. Wikipedia it. She's a badass.

I think the reaction in this forum is WAY over exaggerated...but I expected that.

Your defense of GoTG2 shit-jokes wasn't dramatic or exaggerated AT ALL. The Wonder Woman reactions are about right. My entire newsfeed and social media's are nothing but posts like this:



That's coming from a diehard MCU movie buff. Wonder Woman is a massive hit and one that is hard to undermine if hata runs through the blood, but the try-hards will always be try-hards and hatas will always be hatas. Patty Jenkins and Gal Gadot made history together. As early as what? 5 years ago, the naysayers said a female led super-heroine film (led by a female director) would never work and how big of a bomb it would destroy the chances of those sorts of things making it in the industry and how it is a complete waste of time to try such a thing. This goes to show that the DCEU is full steam ahead. Wonder Woman was a character first introduced in Batman v Superman and was cast by Zack Snyder. In all the shit-storm that film receives, they hit on the most important aspect that shows the movie did things right where interest was in the right places. Massive kudos to Zack there. Like v said, with films such as Gotham City Sirens (where Harley Quinn is already a household name) and Batgirl in the pipleline, let alone the inevitable Wonder Woman sequel, DC is already light-years ahead in this important category that is only going to pressure other studio's to get a move on. I heard Feige is moving 'Captain Marvel <3 Black Widow: Girl Power' up to next month. Is this true?

[Abitaman]

When I was sitting in the theater waiting for the movie to start, it was showing the previews. Got Spiderman, which not a word was said. Thor, which got some laughs with Hulk came out. and JL which got some yells and clapping. Seems like JL and Thor have more of the public interest than Spidey. Really, the only thing I find that I may like about this movie is the villain played by Keaton. I could care less about the movie, 3rd reboot in 15 years or so?

But the Wonder Woman, had people cheering in it, laughing, clapping and crying. And on the way out when the credits were showing, some people were asking about the credit scenes, when they were told there wasn't any, they were glad.

[Abitaman]

Ok, I'll write my thoughts on WW...

I'd say it is the best DC movie since MoS. There are times I think it tries too hard to present this feminist viewpoint...but at least it doesn't dominate the movie. There is one scene in the first half that was forgettable that I forgot what it was. The entire dressing scene I could do without. I could also do without the WW version of "Do you have a penis?" I still feel the 300 style slow motion is annoying. Yes, GotG and other movies use slow motion, too. But, it's not that slow motion, use a "bullet time" affect and back to normal speed that is incredibly dated. The first young child scenes were also slightly annoying as the young Dianna did not seem very believable to me.

But, they stuck to the story and did what they needed to do to make the story work. Because of that it is a good movie. There is no sidetracking into threads of future movies or flashing forward or back to make unnecessary points. there is no "Martha" scene. The Aries thing was pretty obvious where they were going, but that's OK.

So, for me, it is pretty much like MoS, there are a few things that I didn't like but I still felt it was a movie worth seeing. I think the reaction in this forum is WAY over exaggerated...but I expected that.

So............is that a positive review from you?!?

[verslibre]

[verslibre]

Looks like the actual from the weekend is 103 million.

https://twitter.com/GiteshPandya/status/871712677885816832

#WonderWoman flexed more muscle than WB expected SUN dipping only 16% from SAT vs 28% estimate. $103M+ opening wknd, bright road ahead.

[verslibre]

When I was sitting in the theater waiting for the movie to start, it was showing the previews. Got Spiderman, which not a word was said. Thor, which got some laughs with Hulk came out. and JL which got some yells and clapping. Seems like JL and Thor have more of the public interest than Spidey. Really, the only thing I find that I may like about this movie is the villain played by Keaton. I could care less about the movie, 3rd reboot in 15 years or so?

But the Wonder Woman, had people cheering in it, laughing, clapping and crying. And on the way out when the credits were showing, some people were asking about the credit scenes, when they were told there wasn't any, they were glad.

I cannot believe how subdued the anticipation for a Spider-Man film is. Maybe they should change the title to Iron Man 4 And Then Some.

Loved seeing the JL trailer on a big screen. The action in that movie will be unreal.

[verslibre]

Interesting, her face looks a bit fat here. She must have gained some weight, or maybe is pregnant.

Are you serious? You think she looks "a bit fat" in those pix? She looks younger now than five years ago when she was thinner.

Maybe you meant "a bit hot"? And by "bit," WAY HOT? Yes, then we agree!

And yes, she has a toddler (she was pregnant with her second child during much of the filming of the movie).

[verslibre]

That's coming from a diehard MCU movie buff. Wonder Woman is a massive hit and one that is hard to undermine if hata runs through the blood, but the try-hards will always be try-hards and hatas will always be hatas. Patty Jenkins and Gal Gadot made history together. As early as what? 5 years ago, the naysayers said a female led super-heroine film (led by a female director) would never work and how big of a bomb it would destroy the chances of those sorts of things making it in the industry and how it is a complete waste of time to try such a thing. This goes to show that the DCEU is full steam ahead. Wonder Woman was a character first introduced in Batman v Superman and was cast by Zack Snyder. In all the shit-storm that film receives, they hit on the most important aspect that shows the movie did things right where interest was in the right places. Massive kudos to Zack there. Like v said, with films such as Gotham City Sirens (where Harley Quinn is already a household name) and Batgirl in the pipleline, let alone the inevitable Wonder Woman sequel, DC is already light-years ahead in this important category that is only going to pressure other studio's to get a move on. I heard Feige is moving 'Captain Marvel <3 Black Widow: Girl Power' up to next month. Is this true?

It'll be interesting to see how they treat Ms. Marvel, I mean Captain Marvel. Her movie will either be decent, or it'll be "Tony Stark grew breasts!"

[Monker]

Just got back from seeing WW. THE BEST BEST, superhero movie, period! Not talking DC, or Marvel, I am I am talking any company, Studio, franchise, anything.

Nope. Not better than MegaMind. Not even close.

If we are counting non live action, it would be Incredibles, not Megamind.

IMO, Megamind puts a unique spin on the traditional "Super Hero" theme...and spoofs the entire genre, much like a G rated version of Deadpool. Incredibles is the same standard stuff.

[Abitaman]

IMO, Megamind puts a unique spin on the traditional "Super Hero" theme...and spoofs the entire genre, much like a G rated version of Deadpool. Incredibles is the same standard stuff.

I can see where your coming from on that and it is good at that. But, IMO, the Incredible's was what superhero movies should have/could have been for a long time. The interplay of the family in that movie and the husband trying to hide what he was doing, was just funny.

[verslibre]

Things are beginning to stir again on the Suicide front.

http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/joel-kinnaman-thinks-the-suicide-squad-sequel-may-begin-filming-next-year-285

[YoungJRNYfan]

Looks like the actual from the weekend is 103 million.

https://twitter.com/GiteshPandya/status/871712677885816832

#WonderWoman flexed more muscle than WB expected SUN dipping only 16% from SAT vs 28% estimate. $103M+ opening wknd, bright road ahead.

I had a strange feeling that the actual's would come in higher. I went to see WW again on Sunday (and it fucking rocked harder!) matinee and there was a long as line forming at the ticket cut-off. People started rolling in late and before you knew it, I'd say my theater was 80% full on a 3:30pm Sunday showing, which is rare so word of mouth kicked into overdrive from Friday to Sunday for sure.

[YoungJRNYfan]

When I was sitting in the theater waiting for the movie to start, it was showing the previews. Got Spiderman, which not a word was said. Thor, which got some laughs with Hulk came out. and JL which got some yells and clapping. Seems like JL and Thor have more of the public interest than Spidey. Really, the only thing I find that I may like about this movie is the villain played by Keaton. I could care less about the movie, 3rd reboot in 15 years or so?

But the Wonder Woman, had people cheering in it, laughing, clapping and crying. And on the way out when the credits were showing, some people were asking about the credit scenes, when they were told there wasn't any, they were glad.

I cannot believe how subdued the anticipation for a Spider-Man film is. Maybe they should change the title to Iron Man 4 And Then Some.

Loved seeing the JL trailer on a big screen. The action in that movie will be unreal.

I can't decide if SM: Homecoming looks like ass sweat or if it's really ball sweat dripping down from the grundle area that ultimately leads to smelly ass-chafe. Either way, it's doesn't look good to me. In the slightest.

Oh, and you fuckah's got the JL trailer at your showing? JEALOUS. I'm calling to sue my Cinemark ASAP for not getting on that sheeit.

[verslibre]

I can't decide if SM: Homecoming looks like ass sweat or if it's really ball sweat dripping down from the grundle area that ultimately leads to smelly ass-chafe. Either way, it's doesn't look good to me. In the slightest.

Iron Man 4 aka Spider-Man ½: Webbin' the Gooch!

Oh, and you fuckah's got the JL trailer at your showing? JEALOUS. I'm calling to sue my Cinemark ASAP for not getting on that sheeit.

Say wha? Dude! That sucks!

[verslibre]

Looks like the actual from the weekend is 103 million.

https://twitter.com/GiteshPandya/status/871712677885816832

#WonderWoman flexed more muscle than WB expected SUN dipping only 16% from SAT vs 28% estimate. $103M+ opening wknd, bright road ahead.

I had a strange feeling that the actual's would come in higher. I went to see WW again on Sunday (and it fucking rocked harder!) matinee and there was a long as line forming at the ticket cut-off. People started rolling in late and before you knew it, I'd say my theater was 80% full on a 3:30pm Sunday showing, which is rare so word of mouth kicked into overdrive from Friday to Sunday for sure.

Int'l came in a little higher, too. The whole thing crept up another 8M.

Did you see Patty's retweet of that pic of 75 girls that all went together to see the movie? Holy sheesh!

[verslibre]

You guys gotta see this!

https://www.facebook.com/joshpraycomedy/videos/1542325589152123/

[Monker]

Interesting, her face looks a bit fat here. She must have gained some weight, or maybe is pregnant.

Why is this interesting? We all know Gadot was pregnant and even filmed scenes in JL WHILE prego. Wikipedia it. She's a badass.

I didn't know she was pregnant. It's just if her face looks fat, she's fat in other places. She'll need to start wearing those dresses tuck her tummy in.

I think the reaction in this forum is WAY over exaggerated...but I expected that.

Your defense of GoTG2 shit-jokes wasn't dramatic or exaggerated AT ALL.

V's reaction GotG2 was just as exaggerated as this reaction to WW. In fact, i'ts the antithesis of it. Best movie ever, worst movie ever. Both are bullshit and over the top.

The Wonder Woman reactions are about right. My entire nedwsfeed and social media's are nothing but posts like this:

That is over the top and exaggerated. It is NOT a "perfect movie". It is NOT the best CBM ever made.

It seems people were so starved for a good movie after BvS and SS that when you get a good one that it shocks your system so much that you over-react and the pendulum swings too far in the other direction and a 4/5 star movie becomes a 10/5 star movie and is the best thing ever made.

WW is about as good as MoS. To compare with Marvel, it's somewhere between CA:TFA and CA:TWS.

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Wonder Woman is a massive hit

If WW is a massive his, then GotG2 was a super-massive hit because it beat it by 40million dollars on opening weekend. It won't be a billion dollar film. it will land a bit more than 700million. That is not "massive". I wouldn't even call GotG2's 800million "massive".

As early as what? 5 years ago, the naysayers said a female led super-heroine film (led by a female director) would never work and how big of a bomb it would destroy the chances of those sorts of things making it in the industry and how it is a complete waste of time to try such a thing.

*I* never said such things. I said it would be about as good as Thor 1. And, I would say it is a bit better that than that and is more comparable to CA:TFA. But, what it is NOT is Iron Man 1, or CA:Civil War, or Avengers 1...and IMO, Doctor Strange was better...but I doubt most agree with that.

I think you people have simply lost all perspective.

This goes to show that the DCEU is full steam ahead.

Absolutely not. It means DC turned from creating movies that suck to creating ONE movie that is good. It is JL that will push things forward. And, if it is not a billion dollar film with good reviews, forget about DC.

Like v said, with films such as Gotham City Sirens (where Harley Quinn is already a household name) and Batgirl in the pipleline, let alone the inevitable Wonder Woman sequel, DC is already light-years ahead in this important category that is only going to pressure other studio's to get a move on.

You wrote all of that in one sentence and you don't think you are over-reacting?

First Harley Quinn is not a "household name". That's just ridiculous. The last time Batgirl was introduced the batman franchise went downhill fast. Creating a bandwagon for people to jump may not be a good idea...concentrate on making good movies.

I heard Feige is moving 'Captain Marvel <3 Black Widow: Girl Power' up to next month. Is this true?

I really don't want there to be a Black Widow movie. I think Captain Marvel is scheduled where it is for a reason and it won't change. Marvel is doing what Marvel does regardless of what DC does.

[Monker]

Interesting, her face looks a bit fat here. She must have gained some weight, or maybe is pregnant.

Are you serious? You think she looks "a bit fat" in those pix? She looks younger now than five years ago when she was thinner.

Maybe you meant "a bit hot"? And by "bit," WAY HOT? Yes, then we agree!

And yes, she has a toddler (she was pregnant with her second child during much of the filming of the movie).

YES...It looks like her face got a bit fatter. If she's done filming, she probably let it go a bit and she's far along. If I can seeit, she is definitely not hiding it as well as she was.

[YoungJRNYfan]

I didn't know she was pregnant. It's just if her face looks fat, she's fat in other places. She'll need to start wearing those dresses tuck her tummy in.

Okay.

V's reaction GotG2 was just as exaggerated as this reaction to WW. In fact, i'ts the antithesis of it. Best movie ever, worst movie ever. Both are bullshit and over the top.

Hyperbole is used when expressing whether somebody likes or dislikes something to get their point across. When somebody express's themselves, it's called an opinion.

It is NOT a "perfect movie."

Nobody said it was. We've said it over and over again. No movie is perfect.

It is NOT the best CBM ever made.

Opinion.

WW is about as good as MoS. To compare with Marvel, it's somewhere between CA:TFA and CA:TWS.

You just mentioned the only good Marvel films outside of Iron Man and Avengers (which isn't aging well.)

If WW is a massive his, then GotG2 was a super-massive hit because

To make you feel better, nobody said GotG2 wasn't a hit. We all knew it would be. WW is a massive hit and I'm talking more-so for the DCEU and where the path of the CBM may lead to after the first female led superheroine film was an outright success. Something most said couldn't be done.

*I* never said such things.

Get off your high horse (and who really knows what you said. You're typically all over the damn map.) I wasn't talking about you or what you said. I'm talking professional critics, professional bloggers and people within the movie industry. Top executives. Yes, those people.

I think you people have simply lost all perspective.

What do you mean, you people?

Absolutely not.

You are WRONG.

It means DC created movies that rock and created THREE movie's that are good.

Fixed.

It is JL that will push things forward. And, if it is not a billion dollar film with good reviews, forget about DC.

You guys have been saying that since Man of Steel. "Man of Steel sucked and the DCEU is dead on arrival." "If BvS sucks, forget about Wonder Woman!" If Suicide Squad sucks, forget about Batman!" "If Wonder Woman sucks, forget about Aquaman!" Now since Wonder Woman did gangbusters and how we said Wonder Woman was going to be THEE key movie to turn things around, now it's back to Justice League for hoping for things to fail. It won't. Aquaman's production is going smoothly and I'm anticpating a splendid Comic Con for DC in July. Stop hating. The DCEU is alive and kicking. If you don't believe it, watch v's video he posted above.

First Harley Quinn is not a "household name". That's just ridiculous.

You are WRONG.

The last time Batgirl was introduced the batman franchise went downhill fast.

Because Batgirl was the only thing wrong with Batman & Robin and is to blame. That was 20 years ago. Move on.

Creating a bandwagon for people to jump may not be a good idea...

So much irony.

I really don't want there to be a Black Widow movie.

Neither does Marvel. Shame. We'll see if Wonder Woman's success rises the flame closer to Marvel's butthole. People clamoring for a ScoJo BW film will be even more vocal now.

Marvel is doing what Marvel does regardless of what DC does.

Do you like Civil War? If so, go back, watch it and thank BvS for it.

[YoungJRNYfan]

The Different Ways Wonder Woman Has Made History
http://comicbook.com/dc/2017/06/04/wond ... -3-ways/#1

All of these factors contribute toward Wonder Woman being a massive success and an achievement in filmmaking. The number crunchers at FiveThirtyEight have examined three different ways Wonder Woman has already made history.


Take a look and find out why Patty Jenkins’ movie is a game changer.

Not my piece.

[verslibre]

The Different Ways Wonder Woman Has Made History
http://comicbook.com/dc/2017/06/04/wond ... -3-ways/#1

All of these factors contribute toward Wonder Woman being a massive success and an achievement in filmmaking. The number crunchers at FiveThirtyEight have examined three different ways Wonder Woman has already made history.


Take a look and find out why Patty Jenkins’ movie is a game changer.

Not my piece.

[verslibre]

Interesting, her face looks a bit fat here. She must have gained some weight, or maybe is pregnant.

Are you serious? You think she looks "a bit fat" in those pix? She looks younger now than five years ago when she was thinner.

Maybe you meant "a bit hot"? And by "bit," WAY HOT? Yes, then we agree!

And yes, she has a toddler (she was pregnant with her second child during much of the filming of the movie).

YES...It looks like her face got a bit fatter. If she's done filming, she probably let it go a bit and she's far along. If I can seeit, she is definitely not hiding it as well as she was.

You are ridiculous.

Gal looks fantastic — before/after the kid.

Gal was on Kimmel, Conan, GMA, Kelly & Ryan...you can watch all her appearances. She never looks "fat." I honestly prefer how she looks now versus six years ago.

What Gal thinks of your comment about her "fat-ness."

[verslibre]

I didn't know she was pregnant. It's just if her face looks fat, she's fat in other places. She'll need to start wearing those dresses tuck her tummy in.

Okay, Mr. Olympia.

V's reaction GotG2 was just as exaggerated as this reaction to WW. In fact, i'ts the antithesis of it. Best movie ever, worst movie ever. Both are bullshit and over the top.

Bologna. I said up-front WW is not perfect. There are some things I'd change, but that applies to every film out there. They'll never make a film that 100% caters to individual perceptions and expectations. It would be arrogant to expect such.

OTOH, you defended every single aspect of GOTGV2, from its crap humor to its clichéd premise to its predictable tragedy and all the bad jokes they used a turkey baster to inject it with. It's a caloric surplus of faux-nutrition.

It is NOT the best CBM ever made.

That doesn't mean it can't be somebody's favorite.

It seems people were so starved for a good movie after BvS and SS that when you get a good one that it shocks your system so much that you over-react and the pendulum swings too far in the other direction and a 4/5 star movie becomes a 10/5 star movie and is the best thing ever made.

Maybe you're cramped up over the fact nobody's talking about GOTGV2 now.

WW is about as good as MoS.

Oh, good. I love that movie.

To compare with Marvel, it's somewhere between CA:TFA and CA:TWS.

It's definitely better than TFA. That movie didn't even show Rogers on the frontline. He rescued some of his buddies, became Cap, embarked on a nice promotional tour in the classic dark blue suit, and then went back to take on the Red Skull and Hydra with the Commandos.

Wonder Woman is better than both Thor movies (easily), both Iron Man sequels (easily), Ant-Man (not even a contender), and Strange. Yep, I went there!

It won't be a billion dollar film. it will land a bit more than 700million.

Nobody expected WW to hit 1B. Nobody. 700M+ is fantastic, I concur.

That is not "massive". I wouldn't even call GotG2's 800million "massive".

It's pretty weird when people start saying movies that make north of 800M aren't massive successes. It does depend on the production budget. They probably blew 250M total making and promoting GOTGV2 when all's said and done. Considering domestic and int'l box office takes (50/25%), they probably didn't get into profit until it passed the 700-750M zone. Which is why studios prefer their movies front-loaded, to get most of it up-front. GOTGV2 had next to no competition for the month of May (Alien Covenant barely dented it). It won't be the same for Spider-Man: Homecoming, which will have War for the Planet of the Apes and Dunkirk right on its ass.

Nobody is expecting WW to make Guardians money. But WW's domestic gross will match its budget this week, and it's also the fourth consecutive DCEU film to land a 100M+ OW. Even Doctor Strange didn't manage that with the MCU brand behind it. *** (Remember when you said Strange might make a billion dollars?) *** The only Marvel origin movie to have a 100M OW was Iron Man. Thor, Captain America, Ant-Man and DS didn't.

*I* never said such things. I said it would be about as good as Thor 1. And, I would say it is a bit better that than that and is more comparable to CA:TFA. But, what it is NOT is Iron Man 1, or CA:Civil War, or Avengers 1...and IMO, Doctor Strange was better...but I doubt most agree with that.

Doctor Strange started out fine but once he started training, the MCU's default settings were activated: unnecessary humor, lame gags in the midst of action, more Star Wars mentor-padawan pathos, and serious nerfing. You've no idea how much Strange got nerfed. He's practically SINO. Wonder Woman is the better movie, and Gal is the better fit. (And she didn't have to worry about speaking in a different accent.)

I think you people have simply lost all perspective.

Uh-huh.

Absolutely not. It means DC turned from creating movies that suck to creating ONE movie that is good. It is JL that will push things forward. And, if it is not a billion dollar film with good reviews, forget about DC.

Disney keeps making Pirates movies, even though they're very expensive. This latest one had a much lower performance. Its domestic take is really lacking. Remember, studios get far less of the foreign take.

So Justice League needs to make a billion or "it's curtains for DC"? That's not a wager I'd care to make. Aquaman is being made right now. As soon as Matt Reeves can shift is focus from WftPotA, things will get rolling on The Batman. This summer at Comic Con, WB will own Hall H again. Expect heavy JL coverage, an Aquaman teaser, and announcements for Wonder Woman 2, Batgirl, Suicide Squad 2, The Batman, whatever.

The two best CBMs of 2017 will belong to Fox and WB. Neither SM:H nor Ragnarok is going to change that.

First Harley Quinn is not a "household name". That's just ridiculous.

Sorry, sir. Suicide Squad's 745.6 million cumulative gross? You can feel free to attribute much of that to Harley Quinn. She was undeniably one of the movie's big draws. She made her debut as an animated character, and then her comics counterpart enjoyed increased popularity, not the other way around. Here you go.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/comic-riffs/wp/2016/08/01/margot-robbies-harley-quinn-in-suicide-squad-could-be-2016s-most-popular-movie-character-how-did-she-get-started/?utm_term=.9e7f142ad014

Batman: Arkham Asylum has something to do with it, too.

Harley's been popular since day one, but somewhere between 1992 and 2017, the clown princess of crime skyrocketed into one of DC's biggest assets across comics, games, and films. So when did this spike happen, and who or what do we have to thank for her rise to stardom? The answer is 2009's Batman: Arkham Asylum, the game that took Harley out of the comics and cartoons and proved she could excel in the darker, grander DC universe.

https://nowloading.co/p/why-batman-arkham-asylum-is-responsible-for-harley-quinn-popularity/4255431

The last time Batgirl was introduced the batman franchise went downhill fast.

20 years ago. The climate has changed. I'd rather see Batwoman (Cassandra Cain), but if Joss wants to make a Batgirl (Barbara Gordon) movie, my ass is there, regardless.

I really don't want there to be a Black Widow movie.

Neither does Kevin Feige. Brie Larson's way cheaper. Widow probably won't play a heavy role in Infinity War, either. Too many characters, and Widow won't be too effective in such a scenario. After Phase 3, you may not see her as much, unless Downey splits, which will free up a lot of money.

[verslibre]

[Monker]

Hyperbole is used when expressing whether somebody likes or dislikes something to get their point across. When somebody express's themselves, it's called an opinion.

V was not using hyperbole. Hyperbole is saying something like "Gal's face is as fat as Jabba the Hut's after he accidently ate Kermit's entire family."

Saying, "WW is the worst CBM ever made." Is not hyperbole.

It is NOT a "perfect movie."

Nobody said it was. We've said it over and over again. No movie is perfect.

Dude. YOU put up a pic of a quote of somebody who said it was "perfect".

It is NOT the best CBM ever made.

Opinion.

No more so than saying it is the best CBM ever made..

WW is about as good as MoS. To compare with Marvel, it's somewhere between CA:TFA and CA:TWS.

You just mentioned the only good Marvel films outside of Iron Man and Avengers (which isn't aging well.)

As you say, "Opnion". After Infinity War, I doubt I'll pay as much attention to the terrestial CBM's any longer. I like the cosmic Marvel universe much, much more.

And, I am tired of CBM's over all.

If WW is a massive his, then GotG2 was a super-massive hit because

To make you feel better, nobody said GotG2 wasn't a hit. We all knew it would be.

I didn't argue that WWS would not be a hit. And, I wasn't saying anybody said GotG wouldn't be, or isn't, a 'hit'.

WW is a massive hit and I'm talking more-so for the DCEU

Oh, please, when GL was released, it's first weekend could also be described as "a massive hit". When you come down to Earth you will realize that EVERY DC movie was more of a hit than WW.

and where the path of the CBM may lead to after the first female led superheroine film was an outright success. Something most said couldn't be done.

You listen too much to critics and you are way too caught up in bandwagon to be taken seriously.

*I* never said such things.

Get off your high horse (and who really knows what you said. You're typically all over the damn map.)

When BvS was released I said a WW movie was probably the only that could come out of it. I critiqued some of the SFX in the first trailer, and they annoyed me in the movie, too. But, I still said it would be about as good as Thor 1. I said it would follow the cookie cutter style of a hero journey - and it does. I never posted a guess at a gross but I NEVER said it would not be a hit. Find the quote where I did.

I wasn't talking about you or what you said. I'm talking professional critics, professional bloggers and people within the movie industry. Top executives. Yes, those people.

Those are the people who are all over the place and you are likely to find quotes to back up any opinion YOU have. There is a great article written by Michael Crichton on why you shouldn't believe pundits and such. The truth is that they are right about %50 of the time...no more than chance. So, why even take them seriously? I don't....espeiclaly political pundits.

I think you people have simply lost all perspective.

What do you mean, you people?

You , V, and the people you guys quote on the forum.

It means DC created movies that rock and created THREE movie's that are good.

Fixed.

So, since reality doesn't agree with you, you are canceling it and substituing your own Typical.

It is JL that will push things forward. And, if it is not a billion dollar film with good reviews, forget about DC.

You guys have been saying that since Man of Steel.

I didn't.

"Man of Steel sucked and the DCEU is dead on arrival."

I never said that. I said MoS was a good movie that I have some minor complaints about (effects, planet builder looking too much like the drill on the Star Trek reboot.)

"If BvS sucks, forget about Wonder Woman!"

I never said that, either. I said AFTER BvS that if WW sucked that DC will be in trouble. Lucky for DC, it is a good movie.

If Suicide Squad sucks, forget about Batman!"

I never said anything that related the two movies..

"If Wonder Woman sucks, forget about Aquaman!"

I never directly related the two movies. But, if WW failed, I would say that the entire DCEU would be in trouble.

Now since Wonder Woman did gangbusters and how we said Wonder Woman was going to be THEE key movie to turn things around, now it's back to Justice League for hoping for things to fail.

Well, first of all, WW hasn't done 'gangbusters'...that is silly exaggeration.

DC needed WW to turn things around to be taken seriously again. If that didn't happen the DCEU would be in the shits with JL coming up...and enormous pressure on JL to over perform....a thing DC movies DO NOT DO.

It won't. Aquaman's production is going smoothly and I'm anticpating a splendid Comic Con for DC in July. Stop hating. The DCEU is alive and kicking. If you don't believe it, watch v's video he posted above.

I really don't care about Aquaman. Seriously.

First Harley Quinn is not a "household name". That's just ridiculous.

You are WRONG.

IMO, if you went to some middle class neighborhood and knocked on doors and asked who Harley Quinn was, most have no clue.

It is NOT a household name.

The last time Batgirl was introduced the batman franchise went downhill fast.

Because Batgirl was the only thing wrong with Batman & Robin and is to blame. That was 20 years ago. Move on.

Point is that just because DC is introducing certain characters does not mean that over-all the franchise is successful or will even benefit. There is just as much of a chance that they could be spreading themselves thin and taking the chance of over-exposing the DC brand to the detriment of ALL of the movies.

You just don't know until it happens.

I really don't want there to be a Black Widow movie.

Neither does Marvel. Shame. We'll see if Wonder Woman's success rises the flame closer to Marvel's butthole. People clamoring for a ScoJo BW film will be even more vocal now.

Maybe Marvel will just tire of all of this and kill off her character.

Marvel is doing what Marvel does regardless of what DC does.

Do you like Civil War? If so, go back, watch it and thank BvS for it.

So, you are admitting that Marvel did a better job at a hero vs. hero movie than DC did? Because that is exactly what happened.

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IMO, if you went to some middle class neighborhood and knocked on doors and asked who Harley Quinn was, most have no clue.

It doesn't matter.

But if I quiz 100 random people, I bet I'd get more hits with "Harley Quinn" than "Peter Quill" and "Carol Danvers*" combined.

(*"KARA Danvers? Oh, yeah! I LOVE Supergirl!")

[The_Noble_Cause]

Call me sexist, but I can't seem to get excited to see WW. Is Batman in it somewhere?

[YoungJRNYfan]

TNC, there's no cameos. Bruce Wayne is involved, mainly with a reference in BvS that comes full circle and one of my favorite parts of the film but no, no cameos. References and Easter Eggs (and I liked it that way. Wonder Woman's first film should be all about her.) Gadot and Pine's chemistry is top notch. They carry the film that consistently revolves around them in the 2nd/3rd acts. The Amazonians and Themyscira rock.

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