Schon Cain Drama Increasing?

[SoonerThunder]

Yes. I saw them this March, and last august. The only time Cain always speaks to the crowd is before Faithfully, telling the same story on how he wrote it on a bus ride in 1982 to new york and after he dedicates the song to the armed forces. No politics or religion involved. Im confident that any one who went to a show after the most recent one I attended will say the same thing.

I saw them 6 days ago, and this is still the case- no references to politics or religion

[SoonerThunder]

Yes. I saw them this March, and last august. The only time Cain always speaks to the crowd is before Faithfully, telling the same story on how he wrote it on a bus ride in 1982 to new york and after he dedicates the song to the armed forces. No politics or religion involved. Im confident that any one who went to a show after the most recent one I attended will say the same thing.

It's the same canned speech night after night. That's about the level of creativity Cain is bringing to the stage these days.

Also true

[The_Noble_Cause]

As an aside, I think it’s quite humorous that Neal wants to “protect the legacy.” The cheapo Resonate video with him frolicking in the sand with Salahi was as embarrassing as Cain’s Jimmy Swaggart phase. Also, if he truly wanted to protect the legacy he wouldn’t have toured when Augeri’s voice went down. Just sayin.

[tater1977]

Journey to rock Mohegan Sun, with special guest Asia

http://www.ctpost.com/entertainment/art ... 209006.php

By Linda Tuccio-Koonz Published 12:00 am, Monday, June 12, 2017

Jonathan Cain, longtime keyboardist and rhythm guitarist of Journey, had just finished a three-week gig with the band when we reached him by phone.

Journey had been playing at the Hard Rock Hotel in Las Vegas. But we wanted to chat about a different gig — the band’s concert, with openers Asia, at Mohegan Sun Arena on Friday, June 16.

Cain, who wrote such hits as “Faithfully” and co-wrote “Don’t Stop Believin’, was happy to talk. After all, the residency was over — they sold out all nine shows — and Cain said he was ‘just chillin.’”

After congratulating him on Journey’s induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame this year, we asked what folks can expect at Friday’s show.

“We do have some new stuff,” he said. “We have Steve Smith, of course. No one has seen him yet with Journey at Mohegan Sun.” Cain was referring to Steve Elliott Smith, the renowned drummer (mostly known for his work with Journey) who, in 2015, rejoined the band for the third time. (Modern Drummer magazine readers voted him the No. 1 All-Around Drummer five years in a row.)

“He’s a vital tool that we think really changes the sound of the band quite a bit and makes it pretty awesome. ... Having him on stage magnifies the dynamics. ... There are surprises too, different solos and different segues and a new video show. It’s great stuff. You’ll love it.”

Band members will share a few stories, he said. “We’ll chat about how some of the songs were created, things like that, and the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, of course. ... We’ll talk about life on the road. ‘Faithfully’ is the ultimate road song.”

Discussing that 1982 power ballad, Cain said he wrote it in about a half hour. “I started it on a napkin on a bus ride to New York City, and finished it the next morning.”

Journey got its start in San Francisco in 1973 and has sold more than 80 million albums. It was also the subject of an award-winning documentary, “Don’t Stop Believin’: Everyman’s Journey.” Cain said though the band found success, it wasn’t a given in the beginning, as far as his own path was concerned. It was his father who inspired “Don’t Stop Believin’ — the mega hit he co-wrote with Steve Perry and Journey founder Neal Schon. Cain was questioning his career at the time and his dad told him not to give up.

“He was in my corner from the time I was 8. He prophesied I’d be a songwriter and be playing for thousands of people a night. He saw it in his soul. ... I was spared from a terrible school fire in 1958 where nearly 100 children died, and the next day he put his hands on me and said, ‘God saved you for music; music will be your blessing.”

[perryfan61]

And THIS is what got Neal all fired up!!?? Can't see a problem with it at all. Neal needs to learn to relax, or at least think before he speaks.

[bellairepark73]

And THIS is what got Neal all fired up!!?? Can't see a problem with it at all. Neal needs to learn to relax, or at least think before he speaks.

all the best with that.

[Art Vandelay]

Ok, now it's getting comical. Aside from the fact that they played in a place called The Smoothie King Center (stupid corporate sponsorship), this review is practically setting them up as good vs evil. Schon in the snakeskin...Cain in the [evangelical?] white leather...noting who was in office when each band member joined...seriously, are all of the recent shenanigans some sort of PR stunt?

http://www.nola.com/music/index.ssf/201 ... _2017.html

Journey packs the Smoothie King Center with faithful fans Friday
BY DOUG MACCASH

The Blender (a pet name for the Smoothie King Center) was full to the rim with 12,400 fans on Friday (June 9) as the rock 'n' roll war horse Journey set it spinning on high for more than 100 minutes.

Journey's army of devotees sang along with every radio anthem as if the concert were an exercise in collective karaoke. Much of the crowd was of an age when grandchildren were materializing. But there was also a smattering of teens and twenty-somethings in attendance. The hooks of Journey songs apparently travel from generation to generation like dominant genes.

"Any Way You Want It," "Lights," "Faithfully," and "Open Arms" produced gasps of ecstatic recognition from the floor to the rafters.

Guitarist Neal Schon appeared in a snake skin jacket and guitar strap that befit his tightly coiling riffs. He and bassist Ross Valory, who wore a glittering emerald blazer, have been part of the band's somewhat mercurial lineup since the Nixon administration. Drummer Steve Smith, who wore a peace sign T-shirt, and keyboardist Jonathan Cain, decked out in white leather, came aboard during the Carter years.

Though music news websites report of dissent among the band members, on Friday the perfection of their musicianship bespoke decades of collaboration.

The newest addition to the group, lead singer Arnel Pineda has the ideal 21st-century backstory. According to Internet lore, he was recruited by the band in 2007 after Schon saw him singing on YouTube. On Friday, Pineda jogged athletically from one side of the stage to the other in skin-tight leather pants, weaving past his more stately bandmates, delivering the familiar lyrics with a penetrating voice and passionate pantomime.

Some especially sentimental fans may still pine for bygone frontman Steve Perry, who quit in the late 1990s. But all in attendance would agree that Pineda's performance couldn't have been much better.

Near the end of the show, Pineda graciously introduced the more venerable band members, pointing out that Journey was among the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame's 2017 inductees.


Needless to say, the first bars of the mega-hit "Don't Stop Believing" caused the crowd to erupt like a nostalgic volcano. It was impossible not to be swept away on that mythic midnight train going anywhere, as billows of white confetti fluttered down like Detroit snow.

Come on, sing along. You know you know it: "Just a small town girl, livin' in a lonely world ..."

[JourneyHard]

Let's look at the title of "recent" songs. State of Grace, Faith in the Heartland. Journey is halfway to being a Christian Rock Band.

[inaweofschon]

Steve Smith wearing a t-shirt with a peace sign on it is freaking hilaroius!!

[The_Noble_Cause]

Let's look at the title of "recent" songs. State of Grace, Faith in the Heartland. Journey is halfway to being a Christian Rock Band.

I don't know. Those all spoke to a secular spirituality. Same with the song colors of the spirit and the entire Eclipse album.

[Art Vandelay]

Let's look at the title of "recent" songs. State of Grace, Faith in the Heartland. Journey is halfway to being a Christian Rock Band.

I don't know. Those all spoke to a secular spirituality. Same with the song colors of the spirit and the entire Eclipse album.

Spot on, TNC. The title song on Trial By Fire, and its cover art, also both conveyed spiritual undertones too, no? Of course, by no means does this make Journey a Christian band. There is a big difference between spiritual and religious.

[Archetype]

Let's look at the title of "recent" songs. State of Grace, Faith in the Heartland. Journey is halfway to being a Christian Rock Band.

I don't know. Those all spoke to a secular spirituality. Same with the song colors of the spirit and the entire Eclipse album.

Faith in the Heartland definitely has Christian themes (see kids at the Sunday congregation, with a prayer that god's on our side)

[Journey/Survivor]

Ok, now it's getting comical. Aside from the fact that they played in a place called The Smoothie King Center (stupid corporate sponsorship), this review is practically setting them up as good vs evil. Schon in the snakeskin...Cain in the [evangelical?] white leather...noting who was in office when each band member joined...seriously, are all of the recent shenanigans some sort of PR stunt?

Like I said in another post, the possibility of this being a huge publicity stunt is much stronger than most people would realize.

And like others have pointed out, Neal is NOT making all of the posts that are on his web accounts.

[Journey/Survivor]

Think about this. Cain is married to a Charlatan, and Schon is married to a "White House Crasher." A publicity stunt is a very strong possibility!

[perryfan61]

Think about this. Cain is married to a Charlatan, and Schon is married to a "White House Crasher." A publicity stunt is a very strong possibility!

Well, if it is, they have sunk to a new low. What would be the point, to alienate their fans? Because that seems to be the result.

[Memorex]

Think about this. Cain is married to a Charlatan, and Schon is married to a "White House Crasher." A publicity stunt is a very strong possibility!

Well, if it is, they have sunk to a new low. What would be the point, to alienate their fans? Because that seems to be the result.

Bands starting out or on their way down need publicity, even if it's bad. Journey wants a feel good show with a feel good crowd. This only hurts them, in my opinion.

[jrnyman28]

Let's look at the title of "recent" songs. State of Grace, Faith in the Heartland. Journey is halfway to being a Christian Rock Band.

I don't know. Those all spoke to a secular spirituality. Same with the song colors of the spirit and the entire Eclipse album.

Faith in the Heartland definitely has Christian themes (see kids at the Sunday congregation, with a prayer that god's on our side)

He'll, State Of Grace is a phrase used in at least 3 songs...

[The_Noble_Cause]

Let's look at the title of "recent" songs. State of Grace, Faith in the Heartland. Journey is halfway to being a Christian Rock Band.

I don't know. Those all spoke to a secular spirituality. Same with the song colors of the spirit and the entire Eclipse album.

Faith in the Heartland definitely has Christian themes (see kids at the Sunday congregation, with a prayer that god's on our side)

In case you didn't get it, the song is about small-town rural America...it's not explicitly about Christianity at all. It's about as religious as a Norman Rockwell painting.

[Journey/Survivor]

Think about this. Cain is married to a Charlatan, and Schon is married to a "White House Crasher." A publicity stunt is a very strong possibility!

Well, if it is, they have sunk to a new low.

I totally agree with you there!

[jestor92]

Let's look at the title of "recent" songs. State of Grace, Faith in the Heartland. Journey is halfway to being a Christian Rock Band.

I don't know. Those all spoke to a secular spirituality. Same with the song colors of the spirit and the entire Eclipse album.[/quote]


Faith in the Heartland definitely has Christian themes (see kids at the Sunday congregation, with a prayer that god's on our side)[/quote]

He'll, State Of Grace is a phrase used in at least 3 songs...[/quote]
There has been a lyric line of state o grace on each Journey album going back to Trial by Fire.

[marco17]

For sure some of their songs have a spiritual undertone, however, most wouldn't fit in with typical Christian music. Not to mention, it's a song here or there. If JC is hoping they do 10-12 spiritual-type tracks, then I could understand NS's concern. JC, since he seems to be all about the $$$$, might see the Christian market as one to exploit for sales.

[JourneyHard]

If you look at the cover art on Generations, you can see the face of Jesus Christ. And this was given away free at concerts. All they need to do now is give away free Bibles at concerts.

[The_Noble_Cause]

If you look at the cover art on Generations, you can see the face of Jesus Christ. And this was given away free at concerts. All they need to do now is give away free Bibles at concerts.

I can't tell if you are doing a commendable job of trolling or just need to change the bong water.

[tj]

I watched History of the Eagles again the other night. Timothy B Schmit said that in his experience, all rock bands are on the verge of breaking up all the time. For a great insight into band dynamics, watch it on Netflix. It is fun history, whether you like the music or not. The bitterness that Frey and Henley still had a couple of years ago for Felder is pretty intense.

Journey may not have that level of frustration, but the direction of the band issues are certainly comparable.

[scarab]

Always thought this song was about Jesus
If it is not Cain is sure one twisted prick with the "I wish I could go back in time and hold you as a baby."

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/journey/ ... oveme.html

[bellairepark73]

I thought it was Herbie who brought JC in, or am I mistaken?

You're not completely off the mark. Gregg pointed him out to Herbie and Herbie took him in.

[Archetype]

In case you didn't get it, the song is about small-town rural America...it's not explicitly about Christianity at all. It's about as religious as a Norman Rockwell painting.

There are plenty of unique aspects of small town rural America that don't involve Christianity. They chose to focus on Christianity. It is explicitly about Christianity in that context.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Always thought this song was about Jesus
If it is not Cain is sure one twisted prick with the "I wish I could go back in time and hold you as a baby."

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/journey/ ... oveme.html

Even if it is about Jesus, that's still is a disturbing line. Why would anybody want the cradle the baby Jesus?

[The_Noble_Cause]

There are plenty of unique aspects of small town rural America that don't involve Christianity. They chose to focus on Christianity. It is explicitly about Christianity in that context.

Aside from the one line about Sunday congregation, there is nothing in the song about Christianity. "Believe God is on our side" is fundamentally American. Ever see in God we trust on US currency? One of the original anthems of this country, My Country Tis of Thee, references God several times. Is Lee Greenwood's God Bless the USA also a Christian song? You sound like the type of snowflake that says happy holidays instead of Merry Christmas.

[Archetype]

There are plenty of unique aspects of small town rural America that don't involve Christianity. They chose to focus on Christianity. It is explicitly about Christianity in that context.

Aside from the one line about Sunday congregation, there is nothing in the song about Christianity. "Believe God is on our side" is fundamentally American. Ever see in God we trust on US currency? One of the original anthems of this country, My Country Tis of Thee, references God several times. Is Lee Greenwood's God Bless the USA also a Christian song? You sound like the type of snowflake that says happy holidays instead of Merry Christmas.

You're getting awfully worked up about someone pointing out the obvious. Faith In The Heartland has Christian themes going on with it. That's it. There's nothing to read into here. The lyrics are out there for anyone to see. Now take a deep breath and relax.