They're Eating The Dogs Presidential Thread

[Andrew]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... story.html

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/top-dip ... d=66039011

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/03/us/p ... idens.html

Business as usual in Trumpland.

[Monker]

It is all speculation. And, the polls are starting to move against Trump. More people now favor removing him from office. If that trend continues, eventually Republicans will see him as a liability...just as what happened to Nixon. Trump dug his own hold and he just keeps digging.

I don't care about polls.

You care about them when I say Bernie is in fourth place.

Impeaching Trump would assure his place in the history books as someone who took on the establishment and lost. Nancy is playing right into his hands.

Impeaching Trump will ensure his administration is one of only a few who had to go through the ordeal. His Presidency will be remembered as one of the most corrupt and divisive in this nation's history.

Trump has no plan. He is fumbling through this and has no idea what he is doing.

Pelosi had no choice after the whistle blower. Too many Democrats were demanding it...and lawless attitude of Trump MUST have a check at some point, regardless of political consequences.

Everybody keeps pointing to Clinton and his experience. Nobody points to Nixon and his experience. There are two possible outcomes of this....and NOBODY can clearly know which one will happen at this point.

[Andrew]

More corruption by the hour!

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/03/politics ... index.html

[Monker]

LOL...this is just pathetic, seriously.

So, you are now saying I am emotionally immature in a Pee-wee Herman like, "I know you are but what am I" bit. It is just childish and lame.

And, you have issues with sex. It's like you are some kinda middle aged man who kept his porn collection from when he was a teen and proudly goes on public display to show how he can still get off on it. This is stuff a 14yr old would have out grown by now.

You are just a emotionally immature middle aged man who goes on these childish rants just to get attention, feel important and powerful. That is all you are....and it is pitiful.

And, you make it out to be just me you post to...but you have done it to Andrew, V, and almost anybody who disagrees with you. It is just who you are. Given enough time, you rant like a child to everybody who disagrees.

LOL. This isn't some kinda debate. I am simply correcting the record that I don't hate you, that I think of you as an incredibly emotionally immature person who displays that immaturity constantly in this thread. Even in this reply, it is so ingrained in who you are that you just can't help yourself.

The record speaks for itself.
You have melodramatically declared your exit from the forum and then immediately came running back.
That is no different than a child having a temper tantrum, taking their ball, and running home. The stunted child is YOU.

You continue the grade school, "meet me after school" crap.

If people want to engage in sub-grade school taunts ("nut jobs", "zombies") then they should be willing to back it up.
Like I said, the loudest voices in the room are writing checks they can't cash.

You new seem traumatized by me baiting you with the "Bazzinga" thing....you simply can't get over it and move on.

I'll simply include your quote below. You didn't bait anyone. You fell for fake news because you are gullible. Then, instead of admitting your error, you decided to lie and claim you were pranking the forum. Does that sound mature to you?

Michael Flynn promised "full cooperation to the Mueller team" and is prepared to testify that as a candidate, Donald Trump "directed him to make contact with the Russians."

Buzzinga

You say you are here to discuss politics, but you never "discuss" anything.

Not with you, no. You are a pathological liar who invents facts out of his prolapsed anus (ex. "Hillary had permission...")

You bring up "Tapegate" and try to say how wonderful you were...even though that entire incident was a moral disaster on this forum, and you openly admitted to posting as other users and you were proud you got away with it. Again, it is all you trying to get attention and also feel more important than you really are.

I simply cited Tapegate as proof that I am not here for attention. If I wanted attention, I would've been partying alongside others with Ross and the gang. You can twist it anyway you want.

Then you bring up the entiring POF thing again in an effort to try to embarrass me, or whatever. Sorry, but your mileage has run out on that one. But, a person going about and doing internet searches on other forum members to try to find embarrassing info on them is childish enough. But, it IS obsessive and weird to hold on to those actions for literally YEARS.

Again, would an emotionally mature person really be cruising various dating sites looking for ass?

Then the Ferengi thing, again trying ti embarrass me, or whatever. Yeah, I love scifi. I have my entire life. Don't really care what you think of it. It's just more of your child like behavior, calling people out and trying to disparage them.

Again, would an emotionally mature person still be watching Buck Rogers in his PJs? Grow up loser.

As for "get a job," etc. It is perfectly OK if you think I'm an unemployed nobody. I don't care. I simply see it as you acting out your emotional maturity.

To re-cap:

-Whines about quitting the forum only to run back
-Engages in schoolyard jeers but runs away from confrontation
-Pranks the entire forum with "Bazingga" games
-Trolls the internet in an attempt to touch boobies for the first time
-Still watching scif cartoons despite having an enlarged artichoke-sized prostate


Ah yes, quite the profile in manly manhood.

[Monker]

Who do you like in the next election and why?

Bernie, Warren and Harris probably.

Wow. Thank God you don't get to vote here. Those are three very awful choices.

That implies that you feel there are GOOD Democrats to vote for. Who are they?

[Memorex]

That implies that you feel there are GOOD Democrats to vote for. Who are they?

There is no Dem running that I feel even comes close to Trump as far as the policies I want. Not that I agree with Trump on every policy, but just overall.

That said, if I was forced to vote for a Democrat, the only two I could stomach are Tulsi Gabbard and Amy Klobuchar. Amy should be out by this weekend or next. She doesn't have much to offer but she came off less insane than the others.

All the rest are just so bad for the economy. I suspect Warren would be more pragmatic than the others. Harris is just a politician and nothing more. No substance whatsoever. She is a disgusting human being. I mean, fucking disgusting. I don't like calling women pigs, but she's a pig. Booker? Jesus please no. Bernie would be a waste of time. If the country was stupid enough to elect him AND turn the Senate, I think even the Dems would stop his bag of wishful thinking.

[Monker]

That implies that you feel there are GOOD Democrats to vote for. Who are they?

There is no Dem running that I feel even comes close to Trump as far as the policies I want. Not that I agree with Trump on every policy, but just overall.

So, really, no matter who Andrew would have mentioned, you would have replied in the same way.

That said, if I was forced to vote for a Democrat, the only two I could stomach are Tulsi Gabbard and Amy Klobuchar. Amy should be out by this weekend or next. She doesn't have much to offer but she came off less insane than the others.

Other than the debates, Tulsi has not made much of a case for voting for her, other than she is a veteran and I've seen her supporters holding up signs. She has simply not made a loud enough case for why she should be nominated. She has even moved here and had various town halls...but her message just doesn't connect or spread beyond that.

Klobachar is interesting...she just has not broke out with her message. Again, she needs

If you are going to win this state, you have to connect more than what those two are doing. Warren has campaigned her ass off and actually connected. In some ways she reminds me of Bill Clinton in how relentless she is. That is what it takes to be in the top tier with known names like Biden and Sanders.

All the rest are just so bad for the economy.

How? Trump has ballooned the debt and deficit, stalled manufacturing, added so many tariffs that he has put the brakes on the Obama recovery and put the economy on the edge of recession. Those are simple facts. How is something like Yang's free money for everybody worse than Trump's free money for the rich and corporations via tax cuts? How is paying for various programs viz tax increases worse than Trump increasing taxes on everybody via tariffs? They all have the same affect but from different angles. It's the same end by a different route.

Harris is just a politician and nothing more. No substance whatsoever. She is a disgusting human being. I mean, fucking disgusting. I don't like calling women pigs, but she's a pig.

Kamala is moving out here doubling her effort. Don't know where it will go but she will get respect for that and it may mean she will connect with people and get her message out. Don't know if it will move her up to the next level, again.

Booker? Jesus please no.

Why? No worse than we already have.

Bernie would be a waste of time. If the country was stupid enough to elect him AND turn the Senate, I think even the Dems would stop his bag of wishful thinking.

[/quote]

That is actually probably true...but you could say the same thing about any radical policy.

[Andrew]

There is no Dem running that I feel even comes close to Trump as far as the policies I want. Not that I agree with Trump on every policy, but just overall.

So, really, no matter who Andrew would have mentioned, you would have replied in the same way.

I was shocked and astounded by Memorex's answer. I totally did not see that coming

[RPM]

There is no Dem running that I feel even comes close to Trump as far as the policies I want. Not that I agree with Trump on every policy, but just overall.

So, really, no matter who Andrew would have mentioned, you would have replied in the same way.

I was shocked and astounded by Memorex's answer. I totally did not see that coming

You don’t see what’s coming in 2020 Either.
Prepare for more shock Andrew.....

[The_Noble_Cause]

More corruption by the hour!

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/03/politics ... index.html

Where's the corruption?

[The_Noble_Cause]

Matthew Rosenberg
@AllMattNYT
Despite what Trump claimed today, the @nytimes did NOT report that Adam Schiff helped write the whistleblower's complaint. In fact, Schiff did not even know the whistleblower's identity, officials told the NYT.

Thanks. But the central story, that Schiff knew about the complaint ahead of time, which he denied, remains true.

Nah, normalcy will return. Today was pathetic. Throwing multiple tantrums and spewing more lies and unfounded made up conspiracy theories. He's just trying to muddy the waters.

Really SAD! BAD!

This is just not going to end well. Not sure how anyone could be proud of this trainwreck,

What you think is "normal" is just status quo politics.

[The_Noble_Cause]

You care about them when I say Bernie is in fourth place.

What I cared about, was you posting another dubious claim without any attribution whatsoever.

Impeaching Trump will ensure his administration is one of only a few who had to go through the ordeal. His Presidency will be remembered as one of the most corrupt and divisive in this nation's history.

Trump has no plan. He is fumbling through this and has no idea what he is doing.

Having "no plan" and "fumbling" do not rise to the constitutional standard of impeachable offenses. You are just a sore loser who can't win fairly at the ballot box.

Pelosi had no choice after the whistle blower. Too many Democrats were demanding it...and lawless attitude of Trump MUST have a check at some point, regardless of political consequences.

So name the law that was the broken.

[The_Noble_Cause]

LOL...this is just pathetic, seriously.

So, you are now saying I am emotionally immature in a Pee-wee Herman like, "I know you are but what am I" bit. It is just childish and lame.

And, you have issues with sex. It's like you are some kinda middle aged man who kept his porn collection from when he was a teen and proudly goes on public display to show how he can still get off on it. This is stuff a 14yr old would have out grown by now.

You are just a emotionally immature middle aged man who goes on these childish rants just to get attention, feel important and powerful. That is all you are....and it is pitiful.

And, you make it out to be just me you post to...but you have done it to Andrew, V, and almost anybody who disagrees with you. It is just who you are. Given enough time, you rant like a child to everybody who disagrees.

I was just pulling a Monker-style bazzinga and you fell for it (again)!
Soo easily manipulated. Too funny.
You may now resume watching Buck Rogers while trolling for anonymous cyber ass.

[The_Noble_Cause]

There is no Dem running that I feel even comes close to Trump as far as the policies I want. Not that I agree with Trump on every policy, but just overall.

That said, if I was forced to vote for a Democrat, the only two I could stomach are Tulsi Gabbard and Amy Klobuchar. Amy should be out by this weekend or next. She doesn't have much to offer but she came off less insane than the others.

All the rest are just so bad for the economy. I suspect Warren would be more pragmatic than the others. Harris is just a politician and nothing more. No substance whatsoever. She is a disgusting human being. I mean, fucking disgusting. I don't like calling women pigs, but she's a pig. Booker? Jesus please no. Bernie would be a waste of time. If the country was stupid enough to elect him AND turn the Senate, I think even the Dems would stop his bag of wishful thinking.

Sadly even Tulsi has caved on the impeachment nonsense. What a huge mistake for the country.

[Andrew]

More corruption by the hour!

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/03/politics ... index.html

Where's the corruption?

[Andrew]

You don’t see what’s coming in 2020 Either.
Prepare for more shock Andrew.....

There really is NO talking to any of you. What a utter waste of time. No debate, no chance of ever taking of your MAGA hats.
Emperor Trump will fall. But of course it won't be his crimes....it's all a conspiracies!

What about Hilary's emails?! No, it's the Bidens!

Good grief. See ya.

[The_Noble_Cause]

It's a simple question. As most presidential phone calls between leaders are confidential, you have no way of knowing whether this type of request is "corrupt" or not.

[RPM]

You don’t see what’s coming in 2020 Either.
Prepare for more shock Andrew.....

There really is NO talking to any of you. What a utter waste of time. No debate, no chance of ever taking of your MAGA hats.
Emperor Trump will fall. But of course it won't be his crimes....it's all a conspiracies!

What about Hilary's emails?! No, it's the Bidens!

Good grief. See ya.

You don’t debate Andrew , you throw out insults and
Accusations that are not based on facts.
Trump will be gone in 5 years. At least Donald Trump Sr.

[Monker]

It's a simple question. As most presidential phone calls between leaders are confidential, you have no way of knowing whether this type of request is "corrupt" or not.

Even Napolitano has said it is impeachable. The article you posted started out by saying how wrong everything was in the transcript. You are choosing to ignore the history of impeachment as I posted, the reason it exists as I posted, and even how FOX pundits who you have cited in the past have stated. The transcript shows Trump abused the power of the Presidency and has opened himself up to being impeached. You are in simple denial of reality.

What you are saying above is just more bullshit distraction. It's like saying raping your wife is legal because it goes unreported by other couples. It's bullshit. If anything it is more evidence on how critical it is to impeach Trump so that no other President thinks they can get by with this. It's wrong. Period. Abuse of power is the very reason the impeachment clause even exists. Given Trump's now explicit requests to both China and Ukraine, he is essentially ASKING to be impeached. There is no going back now.

[Andrew]

At least Donald Trump Sr.

Jnr?

[Monker]

When you can actually comment without playing these childish games...lying about my intention, lying about your own, not accepting plain and simple facts, taking quotes out of context and twisting their meaning, then MAYBE you can have a meaningful conversation

You once said that nobody wants to talk to or debate about this stuff to you IRL...as if it was their inability to "debate". Bullshit. It is your inability to accept facts, admit when you are wrong, and not constantly twist everything said to be in your advantage, disparage people, and make yourself feel in power.

That is not "debate". It is not discussion. It nothing but you acting like a child, playing games, trolling for attention and essentially turning these discussions into you dictating your opinion as fact. I don't think you even know how to have a conversation without doing such things.

You care about them when I say Bernie is in fourth place.

What I cared about, was you posting another dubious claim without any attribution whatsoever.

Impeaching Trump will ensure his administration is one of only a few who had to go through the ordeal. His Presidency will be remembered as one of the most corrupt and divisive in this nation's history.

Trump has no plan. He is fumbling through this and has no idea what he is doing.

Having "no plan" and "fumbling" do not rise to the constitutional standard of impeachable offenses. You are just a sore loser who can't win fairly at the ballot box.

Pelosi had no choice after the whistle blower. Too many Democrats were demanding it...and lawless attitude of Trump MUST have a check at some point, regardless of political consequences.

So name the law that was the broken.

[RPM]

At least Donald Trump Sr.

Jnr?

Ivanka???......

[Andrew]

At least Donald Trump Sr.

Jnr?

Ivanka???......

Lecherous cretins, the lot of them.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Who do you like in the next election and why?

Bernie, Warren and Harris probably.

Wow. Thank God you don't get to vote here. Those are three very awful choices.

Harris...LOL!

[The_Noble_Cause]

Even Napolitano has said it is impeachable.

Napolitano also thinks Woodrow Wilson, Teddy Roosevelt, and FDR were evil and the advent of progressivisim was awful for America. If it was up to him, we would probably still have child labor and old people dying in the streets. Like any legal pundit, he is entitled to his views.

The article you posted started out by saying how wrong everything was in the transcript. You are choosing to ignore the history of impeachment as I posted, the reason it exists as I posted, and even how FOX pundits who you have cited in the past have stated.

You said Trump is acting "lawlessly." So name the law. I never denied that impeachment is a political process. You should be honest about your motives instead of masquerading as some sort of constitutional purist. This has nothing to do with the law and everything to do with partisan hatred and the inability to win elections in a fair manner. As for Fox pundits...couldn't care less. Of the network, I have a modicum of respect for Stossel, Napolitano, and Tucker. That's about it. Does that mean I agree with them on everything? Hell no.

What you are saying above is just more bullshit distraction. It's like saying raping your wife is legal because it goes unreported by other couples. It's bullshit.

Spousal rape is illegal in every state. No comparison whatsoever to a leader asking another foreign leader to investigate corruption.

If anything it is more evidence on how critical it is to impeach Trump so that no other President thinks they can get by with this. It's wrong. Period.

Leaders talk to other leaders like this every single day.
Will other classified presidential phone call transcripts be subpoenaed in the course of a Senate trial?
Unlikely. Either way, your outrage regarding this is disingenuous.

Given Trump's now explicit requests to both China and Ukraine, he is essentially ASKING to be impeached. There is no going back now.

Again, requesting assistance in looking into corruption falls under the president's purview. You've got nothing.

[The_Noble_Cause]

When you can actually comment without playing these childish games...

In other words, you don't like to share your games. Only you are entitled to play Buzzinga! on the forum.

lying about my intention, lying about your own, not accepting plain and simple facts, taking quotes out of context and twisting their meaning, then MAYBE you can have a meaningful conversation.

The context of your quoted lies (Hillary had permission!- All 17 intel agencies agree!-Barr changed Mueller's findings -The Russians are coming! - Donna Brazile did nothing wrong!-Hillary will win in a landslide!) changes nothing. They are still lies.

You once said that nobody wants to talk to or debate about this stuff to you IRL...as if it was their inability to "debate". Bullshit.

You'll have to quote me on this one. I talk politics with people fairly regularly.

It is your inability to accept facts, admit when you are wrong, and not constantly twist everything said to be in your advantage, disparage people, and make yourself feel in power.

That is not "debate". It is not discussion. It nothing but you acting like a child, playing games, trolling for attention and essentially turning these discussions into you dictating your opinion as fact. I don't think you even know how to have a conversation without doing such things.

Zzzzzzzz. I have no interest in your dime-store psychoanalysis. Your actions and lies speak for themselves.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Joe Wilson, Iraq War whistleblower, dead at 69.


https://www.apnews.com/5807f1ae078c4a78bc089ac8d726aca5

https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-w ... story.html

[verslibre]

[RPM]

Things are Very good here in America. we indeed are very blessed.
Record number of our Minority population working, Excellent overall unemployment rate.
Great interest rates for those folks looking to purchase homes or cars. Safe from large scale
terrorist attacks since 9/11. Sure we have some serious things to work on, but its so good our
biggest problem if you believe the media is phone calls our President is making with other countries
and the color of his hair. Or his hyperbole. and on and on....While ALL of them profit from his presidency.
Rachel Maddow & Hannity both are Praying (and she dont even believe) for his re-election.
Meanwhile its great not to see all the for sale and foreclosure signs up in the neighborhood
or our troops not having to have war over seas. Yep lets discuss phone calls, and bad hair.
like when it was pizza, cigars and blowjobs....the real problems of the day.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Head of NBC News being exposed as just another pig.

https://pagesix.com/2019/10/09/nbc-news ... ex-report/