They're Eating The Dogs Presidential Thread

[Memorex]

Oh, and another massive Trump victory today with Nancy finally announcing an agreement on North American Trade Pact. Word was she was holding off introducing this until she had the votes on impeachment. Talk about bribery and corruption.

Not really, it's hardly even changed. The biggest thing is Canada opening up dairy markets. Everything else is just number games.

Yea, ok. It's the same.

You know how you know someone is just completely full of shit? They can never give due when it's due. Not an ounce. Can't see the other side. Can't give one bit of credit. There is always some reason why every single thing the other side does is bad. That's how we know the media have lost credibility. And that's how we know nothing you say can be taken seriously.

Orange man bad. That's all you know.

[RPM]

Oh, and another massive Trump victory today with Nancy finally announcing an agreement on North American Trade Pact. Word was she was holding off introducing this until she had the votes on impeachment. Talk about bribery and corruption.

Not really, it's hardly even changed. The biggest thing is Canada opening up dairy markets. Everything else is just number games.

Yea, ok. It's the same.

You know how you know someone is just completely full of shit? They can never give due when it's due. Not an ounce. Can't see the other side. Can't give one bit of credit. There is always some reason why every single thing the other side does is bad. That's how we know the media have lost credibility. And that's how we know nothing you say can be taken seriously.

Orange man bad. That's all you know.

Exactly, well said!

[Memorex]

Listening to this hearing on impeachment. It is beyond nutty. In my opinion, this country has ten times more laws than it needs. Sometimes I think congress is there just to stack laws on top of laws. You can always find some law somewhere to charge someone with. The police or FBI could knock on my door right now and probably find 15 separate charges, even though I do my best to live a lawful life.

But the Dems could not find a single law or crime for which to charge Trump with. Not one. The single most investigated person in the history of the US, and not a single crime. But they still feel that they should attempt to remove him from office despite the fact that half the country voted him in a fair election based on two articles that are 100% based on opinion. And the only opinion they have is their own. Only the Dems will vote for this. Again, never in our history has this happened. Even Nancy acknowledged that it would be wrong to have a one-sided attempt at impeachment.

Just silly.

Just adding because it's so insane: Everyone here needs to comprehend that the Democrats, and only the Democrats, are trying to remove a popular, sitting president based on articles with evidence that would not even be allowed in any courtroom in this country. Not one. The magnitude of that should really bother every American.

[Monker]

Listening to this hearing on impeachment. It is beyond nutty. In my opinion, this country has ten times more laws than it needs. Sometimes I think congress is there just to stack laws on top of laws. You can always find some law somewhere to charge someone with. The police or FBI could knock on my door right now and probably find 15 separate charges, even though I do my best to live a lawful life.

But the Dems could not find a single law or crime for which to charge Trump with. Not one. The single most investigated person in the history of the US, and not a single crime. But they still feel that they should attempt to remove him from office despite the fact that half the country voted him in a fair election based on two articles that are 100% based on opinion. And the only opinion they have is their own. Only the Dems will vote for this. Again, never in our history has this happened. Even Nancy acknowledged that it would be wrong to have a one-sided attempt at impeachment.

Just silly.

Just adding because it's so insane: Everyone here needs to comprehend that the Democrats, and only the Democrats, are trying to remove a popular, sitting president based on articles with evidence that would not even be allowed in any courtroom in this country. Not one. The magnitude of that should really bother every American.

You are willfully ignorant about what impeachment truly is.

First of all "crimes". There doesn't need to be a crime for impeachment. Impeachment exists to remove a president who is abusing his power:

Alexander Hamilton:

"The subjects of its jurisdiction are those offenses which proceed from the misconduct of public men, or, in other words, from the abuse or violation of some public trust. They are of a nature which may with peculiar propriety be denominated POLITICAL, as they relate chiefly to injuries done immediately to the society itself."

THAT is what Hamilton says....there is no mention of "crimes" or breaking the law, or indictments, blah, blah, blah. It is designed to remove a president for "abuse or violation of some public trust". In other words, abuse of his power as President.

Then you keep comparing the House inquiry to a courtroom trial. That is a bullshit comparison. The House does the INQUIRY...NOT THE TRIAL. The trial is held in the Senate. If a police detective decides to investigate you for some crime they go about and question whoever they want. They are not required to only consider what could be presented in trial.

This is the same process that has happened in all prior impeachments. Trump has not been mistreated in any way.

You SCREAM that there is no evidence, and ignore the fact that the transcript and Trump himself are evidence that he asked Ukraine to investigate the Bidens...that is abuse of power, and is all the "evidence" they need.

Trump will officially be impeached tomorrow...well deserved.

[Monker]

Oh, and another massive Trump victory today with Nancy finally announcing an agreement on North American Trade Pact. Word was she was holding off introducing this until she had the votes on impeachment. Talk about bribery and corruption.

Not really, it's hardly even changed. The biggest thing is Canada opening up dairy markets. Everything else is just number games.

Yea, ok. It's the same.

You know how you know someone is just completely full of shit? They can never give due when it's due. Not an ounce. Can't see the other side. Can't give one bit of credit. There is always some reason why every single thing the other side does is bad. That's how we know the media have lost credibility. And that's how we know nothing you say can be taken seriously.

Orange man bad. That's all you know.

I gave him his due...it includes dairy now. The rest of it is mostly moving numbers around...this number moved from 60% to 75%, blah, blah, blah.

But, implying this is an entirely new agreement with major changes that favor the US is just more bullshit.

[Andrew]

But, implying this is an entirely new agreement with major changes that favor the US is just more bullshit.

I'd be happy to give credit also - but each "accomplishment" comes with so much added bullshit and a big fat helping of lies that he discredits himself. And it shows he lies even when he doesn't have to. Pathological insanity.

[Memorex]

Wow. I'm shocked they finally said something.

https://thehill.com/policy/national-sec ... -basis-for

[Memorex]

Hmmm. How shocking.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... iry-gallup

I've seen the Dems do a lot of stupid things. A lot. As have the Republicans. But this impeachment is about the stupidest political move I have ever seen. They just have no clue how this plays across the country.

Their base does not not firing up. Their base is fired up every time Trump tweets, as seen here in the threads of this brain-trust of a thread. So something like this, if done for political reasons as it is, has to play to independents. Talk about a massive miscalculation. Especially with juxtaposed against the economy, the few military conflicts, etc.

Still, regardless of the outcome, it just really sucks how much this hurts the country going forward.

[Monker]

see below

[Memorex]

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[Monker]

Hmmm. How shocking.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... iry-gallup

I've seen the Dems do a lot of stupid things. A lot. As have the Republicans. But this impeachment is about the stupidest political move I have ever seen. They just have no clue how this plays across the country.

Their base does not not firing up. Their base is fired up every time Trump tweets, as seen here in the threads of this brain-trust of a thread. So something like this, if done for political reasons as it is, has to play to independents. Talk about a massive miscalculation. Especially with juxtaposed against the economy, the few military conflicts, etc.

Still, regardless of the outcome, it just really sucks how much this hurts the country going forward.

His job approval has been around 40 - 45% since shortly after he took office. It is a very naive assumption to say it rose because of the impeachment. It is just as likely that it rose because of economic news.

You also ignore the FOX poll that said 50% of people favor impeachment and removal from office.

These polls have bumped up and down and are averaging about unchanged. Neither the Republicans nor the Democrats have been hurt, or helped, by the impeachment.

Also, to say it is all political is ridiculously naive. This was not political...Trump made a blatant attempt to use a foreign government to investigate the Bidens and influence our election process. As soon as this was public and the swing state representatives wrote their op-ed favoring impeachment, Pelosi started pursuing it. Not because of some political advantage...but to stop this blatant abuse of power and keep the elections fair next year. And, if the most vulnerable of Democrats were demanding it, then there was no reason to not do it - and every reason to do it. Then Rudy was caught CONTINUING to pursue the same stupid bullshit...making it even more clear that it had to be brought to an end ASAP.

Trump willingly walked into this by ignoring any lessons from the Mueller investigations and continuing his lawless behavior. He forced Pelosi's hand and she slapped him in the face with it.

Yes, there are a lot of people out there that wanted Trump impeached, me among them. But, the Democrat leadership DID NOT. Trump's actions forced it on himself.

As I said, if it were Obama asking for dirt on McCain, Republicans would have gone berzerk. NO President should be asking other countries to investigate potential nominees from the other party. Abuse of power like that is the very reason impeachment exists.

I also do not believe this hurts the country at all. It puts a clear check on Presidential power, that the President can't simply do whatever he wants. If you do not like this, I suggest you move to Russia, North Korea, or China.

[Memorex]

Dude. It was 100% political. They could not even find a crime to charge him with and they did not have a single fact witness. They did everything they could to be as unfair as possible. Totally unprecedented.

You want it so you want to act like it's fair. But this is so blatant that at this point you are bringing completely dishonest and y oh u know it. And you are doing so because you hate the guy. That's politics.

[Aaron]

You're talking from a position that no influence in the world. You can run your trap and try to suck more money from the USA but you're pissed because we're getting smart and not providing free aid to anyone asking. If you guys we're worth you're salt you wouldn't GAF about our politics because you'd be running your own show on the world front. LOL

Given that isn't happening, keep giving your view on a foreign position you should have on your own. Run your own country and when you get shit together enough on the world view the people GAF, lets talk. Until then, .... you can't make it up.

There's one thing you're missing, we don't GAF about the world, free riders in Greece, etc. Fund you're own dumb shit if you want but don't rely on us to support your dumb shit.

That sums up exactly what I think Trump supporters stand for. And it will end you up in a whole world of shit...eventually.

The ROTW doesn't leech of the USA, it's just NOT true. USA puts in money (and extra on military etc) where it wants to be an influence. Take that away and the USA's influence over ANYTHING in the future is going to be nil.

You guys act the tough guys, but that's because you have (had) power and influence. The world sees Trump as a joke and you guys may not care now, but you WILL care one day.

That's it from me....you can't talk logic to followers of a guy that needs to flush 15 times.

[Aaron]

What data do you have to support your claim. And more importantly, why do you care? The only explanation is the lack of free money running from us. I find it humorous why people from foreign countries care what we do. It's the free money train, or lack there of. Keep rolling bro.

What does Australia do? How do they influence the world? That is why you care about what we do. Get involved in your own shite and you might have influence by you economy.

Russia is not a hoax. Whatever way you look at it, Trump and the GOP have sold out to Putin. Literally everything he wants to happen IS happening.

[Aaron]

Well you can say that. We can put money where we need influence but why would we? It only causes problems and funds people that want to kill us later. We're getting smarter slowly but surely.

Why would we need to put have influence anywhere? We have the largest military, the greatest technology (we're giving away), why do we GAF?

You can talk shite from a third world country have-ever you want. Here are the facts:
1. we're the largest economy in world
2. we're the largest military in the world
3. we're the largest militia in world (we all have guns, just for this reason)
4. we don't give a fuck about what you're bullshite issue of the day is to get your aid to support your dumb shite.

If you're so great, lead the world with our economy and policy. And support climate change by implementing change in your third world country.

Until you have a voice financially fk off. We've been milked enough.

Put you mouth with your money, put your money into support your policies. And quit sucking from me.

No respect here on your points, other than free money to you.

There's one thing you're missing, we don't GAF about the world, free riders in Greece, etc. Fund you're own dumb shit if you want but don't rely on us to support your dumb shit.

That sums up exactly what I think Trump supporters stand for. And it will end you up in a whole world of shit...eventually.

The ROTW doesn't leech of the USA, it's just NOT true. USA puts in money (and extra on military etc) where it wants to be an influence. Take that away and the USA's influence over ANYTHING in the future is going to be nil.

You guys act the tough guys, but that's because you have (had) power and influence. The world sees Trump as a joke and you guys may not care now, but you WILL care one day.

That's it from me....you can't talk logic to followers of a guy that needs to flush 15 times.

[Aaron]

You really need a pill.

Russia is not a hoax. Whatever way you look at it, Trump and the GOP have sold out to Putin. Literally everything he wants to happen IS happening.

[Aaron]

So I don't look further than my own street. Thanks for underestimating my intelligence and for your omniscient view. The only lack of understanding is your position in the world.
1. Where is Austria?
2. What do they do there?
3. Why do we care?
4. They either got sold by Hitler to sign up for the program or where a prison camp.

Either way, why do we GAF? Follow the money, that's all you need.

If Austria was so shite hot they would be drive the world economy, setting world policy and driving the $ exchange rate.

So if not, why do they care? Just follow the free money. That's all you need.

Nothing rude about my post. Yours however...

As usual, insular RW Americans don’t look further than their own street.

The entire global picture makes for a much clearer understanding of what’s happening in the world and America’s part in it.

I never cease to be surprised at some conservative Americans using the “you’re not from here” argument. That shows a lack of understanding of the world and where people like Putin want it to go.

[Andrew]

So I don't look further than my own street. Thanks for underestimating my intelligence and for your omniscient view. The only lack of understanding is your position in the world.
1. Where is Austria?
2. What do they do there?
3. Why do we care?
4. They either got sold by Hitler to sign up for the program or where a prison camp.

Either way, why do we GAF? Follow the money, that's all you need.

If Austria was so shite hot they would be drive the world economy, setting world policy and driving the $ exchange rate.

So if not, why do they care? Just follow the free money. That's all you need.

Nothing rude about my post. Yours however...

As usual, insular RW Americans don’t look further than their own street.

The entire global picture makes for a much clearer understanding of what’s happening in the world and America’s part in it.

I never cease to be surprised at some conservative Americans using the “you’re not from here” argument. That shows a lack of understanding of the world and where people like Putin want it to go.

Austria? LOL

[verslibre]

Christianity Today just laid the smackdown on the Cheeto.

He's losing the evangelicals. It's over.

[Aaron]

Did you get it? I'm not sure ...

So I don't look further than my own street. Thanks for underestimating my intelligence and for your omniscient view. The only lack of understanding is your position in the world.
1. Where is Austria?
2. What do they do there?
3. Why do we care?
4. They either got sold by Hitler to sign up for the program or where a prison camp.

Either way, why do we GAF? Follow the money, that's all you need.

If Austria was so shite hot they would be drive the world economy, setting world policy and driving the $ exchange rate.

So if not, why do they care? Just follow the free money. That's all you need.

Nothing rude about my post. Yours however...

As usual, insular RW Americans don’t look further than their own street.

The entire global picture makes for a much clearer understanding of what’s happening in the world and America’s part in it.

I never cease to be surprised at some conservative Americans using the “you’re not from here” argument. That shows a lack of understanding of the world and where people like Putin want it to go.

Austria? LOL

[Aaron]

And to be fair, I own 2 Australian cars. FYI A GTO and a G8, the best cars ever. Australia or Austria be damned

Look up the history of Austria before WWII with Germany and you might get my joke sir.

So I don't look further than my own street. Thanks for underestimating my intelligence and for your omniscient view. The only lack of understanding is your position in the world.
1. Where is Austria?
2. What do they do there?
3. Why do we care?
4. They either got sold by Hitler to sign up for the program or where a prison camp.

Either way, why do we GAF? Follow the money, that's all you need.

If Austria was so shite hot they would be drive the world economy, setting world policy and driving the $ exchange rate.

So if not, why do they care? Just follow the free money. That's all you need.

Nothing rude about my post. Yours however...

As usual, insular RW Americans don’t look further than their own street.

The entire global picture makes for a much clearer understanding of what’s happening in the world and America’s part in it.

I never cease to be surprised at some conservative Americans using the “you’re not from here” argument. That shows a lack of understanding of the world and where people like Putin want it to go.

Austria? LOL

[RPM]

What a great week for President Trump, secured a new trade deal with our biggest partners. secured funding for the government including money for the border wall, and created a new branch of our military. The best part is the Christmas gift from Pelosi & Schiff virtually guaranteeing his second term. The Stock market obviously agrees hitting another record high.

[Andrew]

What a great week for President Trump, secured a new trade deal with our biggest partners. secured funding for the government including money for the border wall, and created a new branch of our military. The best part is the Christmas gift from Pelosi & Schiff virtually guaranteeing his second term. The Stock market obviously agrees hitting another record high.

[RPM]

CNN -

"This is massive movement towards the president of the United States, at least in our poll at this particular point," CNN political analyst Harry Enten said on Friday.


While appearing on "New Day," Enten detailed the differences between support for Democrats in October versus support shown in their December polling.

The numbers showed former Vice President Joe Biden with just a five-point lead over Trump, compared to the 10-point lead he had in October. Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., similarly saw his lead over Trump narrow by five points.

TRUMP APPROVAL RISES, SUPPORT FOR IMPEACHMENT DROPS IN NEW POLL

[Memorex]

CNN -

"This is massive movement towards the president of the United States, at least in our poll at this particular point," CNN political analyst Harry Enten said on Friday.


While appearing on "New Day," Enten detailed the differences between support for Democrats in October versus support shown in their December polling.

The numbers showed former Vice President Joe Biden with just a five-point lead over Trump, compared to the 10-point lead he had in October. Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., similarly saw his lead over Trump narrow by five points.

TRUMP APPROVAL RISES, SUPPORT FOR IMPEACHMENT DROPS IN NEW POLL

Whenever I see polls that have Trump trailing anyone, I think of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bdyf5Vlti8

[RPM]

CNN -

"This is massive movement towards the president of the United States, at least in our poll at this particular point," CNN political analyst Harry Enten said on Friday.


While appearing on "New Day," Enten detailed the differences between support for Democrats in October versus support shown in their December polling.

The numbers showed former Vice President Joe Biden with just a five-point lead over Trump, compared to the 10-point lead he had in October. Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., similarly saw his lead over Trump narrow by five points.

TRUMP APPROVAL RISES, SUPPORT FOR IMPEACHMENT DROPS IN NEW POLL

Whenever I see polls that have Trump trailing anyone, I think of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bdyf5Vlti8

Thats so true and an excellent illistration of how that played out. I have to think they will be more cautious
This time around but some people buy into what they are feeding them.

[Aaron]

No Andrew you missed my point. The point was free money in my mind is US aid to other countries, bad trade deals or other mechanisms. The US has been taken advantage of for a long time.

Look at NATO. It was put in place to protect Europe from the USSR. The USSR is gone but Russia is still there. And Europe has a great relationship with Russia. Germany buys 70% of their energy from Russia. But we need NATO to protect Europe, really? It should have been dissolved decades ago. It's now a mechanism to milk the US of $. Follow the money.

You have strong views on politics of a country in which you are not a citizen. I don't get it it still. The only thing I see on this from my view is free money.

1. What America does, effects the greater international community. His unnecessary trade wars have created problems all over the world.
2. I hate corruption. Anywhere, by anyone.
3. Nothing is free. You'll pay the price for his policies somewhere, somehow, someday.
4. If free money is all you see, then you are in a very fortunate minority.

[Aaron]

And I'm with you 100% on no corruption. It's getting worse here and I'm worried about it.

You have strong views on politics of a country in which you are not a citizen. I don't get it it still. The only thing I see on this from my view is free money.

1. What America does, effects the greater international community. His unnecessary trade wars have created problems all over the world.
2. I hate corruption. Anywhere, by anyone.
3. Nothing is free. You'll pay the price for his policies somewhere, somehow, someday.
4. If free money is all you see, then you are in a very fortunate minority.

[Aaron]

Dude did you watch the "hearings"? Or are you listening to what the media spins to you. I watched 80% of the theater in DC. It was total BS. No direct witnesses or evidence of any crime. There was a lot hearsay and second hand information but zero evidence of any crime. If you really watched the "hearings" you would know this. You're loosing credibility if you're running on media spin. I watched it, you couldn't have. If you looked at the data you could not have that view.

These hearings are a complete disaster for the Dems. A total disaster.
I bet Biden picks AOC for running mate out of desperation.

Did you write that with a straight face?

Do you finally accept your President is a crook?

[Aaron]

You'll be pissed when the results roll in. The only people that don't like him are the folks looking for a free ride, free healthcare, free citizenship, free school, free free free. The rest of the country paying the bills don't have an issue. He'll win in a landslide and you heard it here first.

I think it’s time the forum owner corrects this thread title
To the President Donald J Trump Second Term Thread.

Depends on how much the GOP let the Russians fuck with the results...and if Trump leaves when defeated.

He's more hated now than ever.