Memorex wrote:Are you under the illusion that the stock market will not roar back in short order after this craziness passes? Do you honestly think a seasonal virus, that is not that bad and already on the decline in China, is going to derail the economy for 9 months? Have you met Americans? They will be back to spending money at record rates in no time.
Point is, there was someone on here who was giving the Democrat nomination to Sanders. Point is you had somebody on here counting Biden out of the nomination. Point is that you had someone on here willing to bet the farm that Trump would win the largest electoral win in decades. Point is that it was the general Trumpzombie talking point that the economy would reelect Trump. Point is that I said very clearly that you can't call an election in November by what is happening in February. Point is that you can't do that in March either, and I'm not trying. I am simply saying that EVERYTHING that was said a few weeks ago had turned to bullshit.
However, you can not call coronavirus a "seasonal" virus. It is a new virus and this fact is unknown.
We are not China. Is this country going to support locking down entire states, and monitoring the movements of citizens to enforce the lock down?
The economy was in a bubble and this is what burst it. There are all kinds of indicators for recession and this just happened to be the final straw. You are naive to think that ending the pandemic will end the recession.
You are assuming many things, and are factually wrong about others.
I don't see his handling of this as dismal at all.
Testing, hospital capacity, equipment capacity. None of these are/were addressed early enough...and people may die because of it....the same as Katrina and sending federal aid. Then there are the constant lies from Trump. He lies about the vaccine, repeatedly. He lies about it getting better, while every expert in the same new s conference said it would get worse. Nobody can believe anything that the Whitehouse says.
It's a new kind of thing and the media is in a frenzy.
Funny how you say it's a new thing and then later mention H1N1. It's NOT new. H1N1 showed weakness in how we were prepared for a virus like this. Trump not only chose to ignore that, but cut programs designed to stop it...and had even deeper cuts proposed. Trump IGNORED the lessons of H1N1.
People are over the get-Trump stuff
I don't care. His leadership does not exist in this crisis. He has led NOTHING. It reminds me of when W told people to go shopping to help after 9/11, or to shrinkwrap your house to protect it from chemical attacks. He LIES about vaccines. He LIES about it being seasonal. He LIES about it suddenly getting better "like a miracle". He has done nothing to lead us in this crisis.
[quolte]You need to go back and look how long it took to declare the same with H1N1. Millions of infected, 1,000+ dead. And I don't fault Obama. It is just shit that happens and it's all new.[/quote]
"Then, the CDC’s flu surveillance network actually sounded the alarm, spotting two children in California who were the first diagnosed cases of the new flu strain. About two weeks later, the U.S. declared a public health emergency and CDC began releasing anti-flu drugs from the national stockpile to help hospitals get ready. Trump declared a state of emergency Friday, seven weeks after the first U.S. case of COVID-19 was announced."
Coronavirus IS a real issue. Yeah, it has similar symptoms to the flu, but it is NOT the same. The death rate is higher. It doesn't affect kids nearly as often. The death rate among seniors is higher. There are treatments for the flu, there are none for the coronavirus...you manager the symptoms. There are flu vaccines, there is none for the coronavirus, and won't be for a long time.