QPrime Journey Biography

[The_Noble_Cause]

Honestly if The Way We Used To Be is an indicator of what the new album will be like, I can see why no label wants to touch it. That track is so cringe, and it takes a lot for a song to make me cringe. I listen to a lot of classically cringe music. That song takes it to another level. I haven’t listened to it in a long time and probably never will again. I’m sure every record label executive is pondering just how much money Walmart lost on Eclipse, too.

Cartoon video is schmaltzy. I get the criticism. Don't think the song itself is cringe. It's certainly no classic either. Mix is weird. Neal's solo sounds too loose, too unrefined. Chorus is a subtle hook that barely registers.

[Monker]

The problem with Journey is they could make the greatest album ever and release it in 2021 or 2022 or whenever, and nobody is going to hear it. If a tree falls in a forest and nobody is there, there will be no album sales. Word of mouth isn't going to work either. When you say, "Journey's new album is the greatest one they ever did," you will be met with "But there's no Steve Perry."

The problem is expectations. People will buy the CD....just not nearly as many as what the fans and band are used to. If I were BMG, I would not offer burning more than 50,000 copies on the first print. Why? Because Eclipse sold less than 100,000 and they should sell even less today. So, let's use the old standards...The band will get about $1/cd. So, they make $50,000. The label get's maybe $8/cd. So, they make $400,000....and NONE of this is gauranteed...it all depends on sales.

So, there is money to be made from a band like Journey....just not the millions per release like in the old days.

Yes. I wish somebody would inform me how these record labels work these days. I would think they would want a cut of the dirty dozen cash cow tour because they know that will make money. Somebody needs to clue me in one way or another.

LIke I said, I'd like Andrew to comment on some of this. I can not see any legacy band giving tour profits to a label. They make hardly anything from a CD release so if a label taxes the tour, then they LOSE money. It just doesn't make sense.

[jestor92]

The problem with Journey is they could make the greatest album ever and release it in 2021 or 2022 or whenever, and nobody is going to hear it. If a tree falls in a forest and nobody is there, there will be no album sales. Word of mouth isn't going to work either. When you say, "Journey's new album is the greatest one they ever did," you will be met with "But there's no Steve Perry."

The problem is expectations. People will buy the CD....just not nearly as many as what the fans and band are used to. If I were BMG, I would not offer burning more than 50,000 copies on the first print. Why? Because Eclipse sold less than 100,000 and they should sell even less today. So, let's use the old standards...The band will get about $1/cd. So, they make $50,000. The label get's maybe $8/cd. So, they make $400,000....and NONE of this is gauranteed...it all depends on sales.

So, there is money to be made from a band like Journey....just not the millions per release like in the old days.

Yes. I wish somebody would inform me how these record labels work these days. I would think they would want a cut of the dirty dozen cash cow tour because they know that will make money. Somebody needs to clue me in one way or another.

LIke I said, I'd like Andrew to comment on some of this. I can not see any legacy band giving tour profits to a label. They make hardly anything from a CD release so if a label taxes the tour, then they LOSE money. It just doesn't make sense.

50000 is a good number considering Maiden just landed at #3 with 64000 sales.