The Joseph R Biden Presidential Thread

[Monker]

25% comment, Please Elaborate.

Because only half the population votes, 25% of people control the whole country.

That sounds about right. Unfortunately, the media narrative tends to focus on the extreme views
and I wonder if this has the effect of turning people off from not just paying attention, but from
voting as well. There is enough history available to us to make logical conclusions of proposed policy
Yet we make the same mistakes over and over. For example the Treasury secretary was completely wrong
On the inflation outlook (at least admitted it ) https://www.npr.org/2022/06/01/11023644 ... -inflation
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out it was going to happen, but yet here we are. hopefully we get
Some fresh candidates that are closer to the center for 2024. even moderate dems have had enough of the
progressives, and moderate republicans do not want Trump. there is an opening for someone to take advantage.

Here is the problem. If the election were held today, Trump would win. Most Republican's WANT Trump. Despite his corruption, lack of values and morals, even his complete lack of actions demonstrating an understanding and wanting a democracy or republic. Republicans support anarchy. They WANT it. They want a Napoleon to come in and declare themselves king of the United States. Their unwavering support of Trump PROVES that.

[Andrew]

In Oz, voting is compulsory, so near 100% of voters do actually vote, therefore even in the tightest of races, at least half the country is represented.

We just tossed the 9 year old conservative asshole government out and the new more progressive government already has a 60% approval rating.

The USA is a mess and it looks like swinging voters will blame Biden, but the shit from 2016-2020 is still flowing downhill, so I find it quite alarming that Democrats can't get that united message across.

[Andrew]

"“It would be a mountain to climb to beat him,” said Senator Lindsey Graham, whose own stance on Mr Trump has vacillated between vociferous opposition and devout loyalty multiple times since 2016.

“All the polling shows he would be the frontrunner by a country mile.”

Indeed it does. In the two most recent Republican primary polls, Mr Trump beat Mr DeSantis 51-23 and 51-18. The former president would have an immense advantage, at least initially.

“Just because people speak out and take him on doesn’t mean they can beat him,” Tony Fabrizio, an experienced Republican pollster, told The Post.

“I haven’t seen any data that showed any of these people are beating him anywhere. The person that comes closest is DeSantis, and all the rest of these people chattering on the sidelines can’t even break into double digits.”

Those folks chattering on the sidelines include Mr Trump’s vice president of four years, Mike Pence, who fell out of favour when he refused to help overturn the 2020 election result. Other possible contenders are Texas Senator Ted Cruz, former United Nations ambassador Nikki Haley and New Jersey governor Chris Christie."


What a reprehensible lineup of RWNJ cretins....DeSantis, Cruz (odious little man), Haley and Christie. Fuck me - aren't there any normal people in the Republican party?

[Monker]

"“It would be a mountain to climb to beat him,” said Senator Lindsey Graham, whose own stance on Mr Trump has vacillated between vociferous opposition and devout loyalty multiple times since 2016.

“All the polling shows he would be the frontrunner by a country mile.”

Indeed it does. In the two most recent Republican primary polls, Mr Trump beat Mr DeSantis 51-23 and 51-18. The former president would have an immense advantage, at least initially.

“Just because people speak out and take him on doesn’t mean they can beat him,” Tony Fabrizio, an experienced Republican pollster, told The Post.

“I haven’t seen any data that showed any of these people are beating him anywhere. The person that comes closest is DeSantis, and all the rest of these people chattering on the sidelines can’t even break into double digits.”

Those folks chattering on the sidelines include Mr Trump’s vice president of four years, Mike Pence, who fell out of favour when he refused to help overturn the 2020 election result. Other possible contenders are Texas Senator Ted Cruz, former United Nations ambassador Nikki Haley and New Jersey governor Chris Christie."


What a reprehensible lineup of RWNJ cretins....DeSantis, Cruz (odious little man), Haley and Christie. Fuck me - aren't there any normal people in the Republican party?

Yes, there are a few. But, whoever speaks out against Trump is labeled a RINO and is targeted to lose their primary for reelection...and most of them lose to a Trump wannabe. So, the more time that passes, the more insanity wins, and there is less sanity in the party. The one good thing is that the more crazies the Republicans nominate, the easier it is for the Democrats to win. Hershel Walker and Dr. Oz are two examples of this.

[RPM]

"“It would be a mountain to climb to beat him,” said Senator Lindsey Graham, whose own stance on Mr Trump has vacillated between vociferous opposition and devout loyalty multiple times since 2016.

“All the polling shows he would be the frontrunner by a country mile.”

Indeed it does. In the two most recent Republican primary polls, Mr Trump beat Mr DeSantis 51-23 and 51-18. The former president would have an immense advantage, at least initially.

“Just because people speak out and take him on doesn’t mean they can beat him,” Tony Fabrizio, an experienced Republican pollster, told The Post.

“I haven’t seen any data that showed any of these people are beating him anywhere. The person that comes closest is DeSantis, and all the rest of these people chattering on the sidelines can’t even break into double digits.”

Those folks chattering on the sidelines include Mr Trump’s vice president of four years, Mike Pence, who fell out of favour when he refused to help overturn the 2020 election result. Other possible contenders are Texas Senator Ted Cruz, former United Nations ambassador Nikki Haley and New Jersey governor Chris Christie."


What a reprehensible lineup of RWNJ cretins....DeSantis, Cruz (odious little man), Haley and Christie. Fuck me - aren't there any normal people in the Republican party?

We are a nation that has moved on from making our choices (for anything really) based on Merit. now its all about identity
And or Celebrity. You never even heard of Gov. John Kasich and in 2016 he was one of the most qualified candidates based on merit. your not alone, he was shunned by the media as a nobody. Everyone knew who Trump was like him or not. terrible way to choose Leaders. Same with Harris, lousy identity pick that has been disastrous. she is so bad no one wants Biden to get sick.The last real Good President we had who actually earned it was Dem Bill Clinton.

[Monker]

"“It would be a mountain to climb to beat him,” said Senator Lindsey Graham, whose own stance on Mr Trump has vacillated between vociferous opposition and devout loyalty multiple times since 2016.

“All the polling shows he would be the frontrunner by a country mile.”

Indeed it does. In the two most recent Republican primary polls, Mr Trump beat Mr DeSantis 51-23 and 51-18. The former president would have an immense advantage, at least initially.

“Just because people speak out and take him on doesn’t mean they can beat him,” Tony Fabrizio, an experienced Republican pollster, told The Post.

“I haven’t seen any data that showed any of these people are beating him anywhere. The person that comes closest is DeSantis, and all the rest of these people chattering on the sidelines can’t even break into double digits.”

Those folks chattering on the sidelines include Mr Trump’s vice president of four years, Mike Pence, who fell out of favour when he refused to help overturn the 2020 election result. Other possible contenders are Texas Senator Ted Cruz, former United Nations ambassador Nikki Haley and New Jersey governor Chris Christie."


What a reprehensible lineup of RWNJ cretins....DeSantis, Cruz (odious little man), Haley and Christie. Fuck me - aren't there any normal people in the Republican party?

We are a nation that has moved on from making our choices (for anything really) based on Merit. now its all about identity
And or Celebrity. You never even heard of Gov. John Kasich and in 2016 he was one of the most qualified candidates based on merit. your not alone, he was shunned by the media as a nobody. Everyone knew who Trump was like him or not. terrible way to choose Leaders. Same with Harris, lousy identity pick that has been disastrous. she is so bad no one wants Biden to get sick.The last real Good President we had who actually earned it was Dem Bill Clinton.

There is so much here that just isn't true. I think you watch too much right wing media and your ideas are skewed by that.

First of Kasich. He was covered by the media, before and after the election. I have seen him on FOX, I have seen him frequently on CNN. He has been on the various talk shows. I know I have seen him on Real Time. He hasn't been on conservative media as much. Anyway, he ran a very unremarkable campaign. The only somewhat memorable thing he did was when Trump spark and back and forth argument in one of the debates. He called them all out for acting ridiculous. In a campaign where everybody was fixated on Trump, he was destined to lose.

Qualified candidates did not matter in the Republican primary. Jeb was at least as qualified as Kasich. The Republicans did not care about qualifications. They wanted a loud mouthed asshole who could insult his opponents and talk loudly over them. That is what they nominated.

The only people who worry about Harris are people who watch too much conservative media. Nobody cares how often she's been to the border or why she wasn't given such and such assignment. She's VP, the shit job. so nobody but those who want to throw mud at Democrats care about such things. She was given the position, IMO, because she's black and BLM was a rising thing at that time. VP's are appointed to bring in a voting block. Biden won, so I guess she wasn't that bad.

The last good President was Obama. Biden has barely been in office and hasn't had time to prove one way or the other.

The Republicans are the ones nominating Celebrities (Dr. Oz, Herschel Walker). It is their thing - because of Trump. Some of these people are genuinely crazy. Walker is one...he is unfit for office. It's just nuts. It's like Christine "I'm not a witch" O'Donnell from years ago. Republicans are nominating people who simply can't win...and that is how they want to take over the Senate. The party is on drugs...either illegal, or legal to keep their multiple personalities in check.

[RPM]

Relax Progressives, You can still Kill babies. just go to California, and move there while your at it.

[Monker]

Relax Progressives, You can still Kill babies. just go to California, and move there while your at it.

This is a losing issue for Republicans. 75% of the country wanted RvW to stand. Insulting comments like the above is going to motivate a lot of people to vote against them....and not just. Liberals.

[Andrew]

Relax Progressives, You can still Kill babies. just go to California, and move there while your at it.

That's so offensive. And blatantly hypocritical. You can't abort a rape pregnancy, but you can shoot dead all the kids you like in school.

Conservative America is beyond fucked. What happened to my favourite country (besides my own).

[RPM]

Relax Progressives, You can still Kill babies. just go to California, and move there while your at it.

That's so offensive. And blatantly hypocritical. You can't abort a rape pregnancy, but you can shoot dead all the kids you like in school.

Conservative America is beyond fucked. What happened to my favourite country (besides my own).

Well we have this document called the Constitution, You can read it as many times as you want and you will not find
Having the right to kill your baby anywhere in it. Even Ginsburg knew roe vs wade was weak and would not hold up.
It's ironic don't ya think that Hillary Clinton has saved thousands of lives. By losing to Trump he was able to elect the
Judges to get the job done. Someday those people may thank you Hillary since they weren't killed by a "doctor"
But I regress, you wanted to talk about shooting kids. We do alot of that here in Chicago led by our identity pick Mayor Lighthead.

More children have been the victims of gun violence in Chicago this year than have died from COVID-19 across the entire country, according to police and the Centers for Disease Control and Protection.

The CDC reported that 214 children 17-years old or younger have died of COVID-19 nationwide so far this year — compared to 261 Chicago kids who have been victims of gunfire in Chicago, according to police statistics
More children have been fatally shot on the streets of Chicago than have died of COVID-19 in the state of Illinois.


By the way Chicago has some of the strictest Gun laws in the country. those darn folks on the south & west side just dont seem
to follow the rules. but She is always thinking business and is all over this getting rid of babies deal. She is now encouraging people to travel to Chicago Where you can take in a ballgame, grab some deep dish and while your here legally get rid of that pesky baby you dont want.
As shown in the link, she is already warning other states from trying to interfere in her new cash cow.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/politics ... story.html

[Monker]

Relax Progressives, You can still Kill babies. just go to California, and move there while your at it.

That's so offensive. And blatantly hypocritical. You can't abort a rape pregnancy, but you can shoot dead all the kids you like in school.

Conservative America is beyond fucked. What happened to my favourite country (besides my own).

Well we have this document called the Constitution, You can read it as many times as you want and you will not find
Having the right to kill your baby anywhere in it. Even Ginsburg knew roe vs wade was weak and would not hold up.
It's ironic don't ya think that Hillary Clinton has saved thousands of lives. By losing to Trump he was able to elect the
Judges to get the job done. Someday those people may thank you Hillary since they weren't killed by a "doctor"
But I regress, you wanted to talk about shooting kids. We do alot of that here in Chicago led by our identity pick Mayor Lighthead.

More children have been the victims of gun violence in Chicago this year than have died from COVID-19 across the entire country, according to police and the Centers for Disease Control and Protection.

The CDC reported that 214 children 17-years old or younger have died of COVID-19 nationwide so far this year — compared to 261 Chicago kids who have been victims of gunfire in Chicago, according to police statistics
More children have been fatally shot on the streets of Chicago than have died of COVID-19 in the state of Illinois.


By the way Chicago has some of the strictest Gun laws in the country. those darn folks on the south & west side just dont seem
to follow the rules. but She is always thinking business and is all over this getting rid of babies deal. She is now encouraging people to travel to Chicago Where you can take in a ballgame, grab some deep dish and while your here legally get rid of that pesky baby you dont want.
As shown in the link, she is already warning other states from trying to interfere in her new cash cow.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/politics ... story.html

Wow, preach it! Comparing aborting weeks old pregnancies to murdering babies and murdering children is the exact talk that infuriates liberals and motivates them to vote....and angers moderates and motivates them to turn against Republicans. Hope more of your minority talks like this!

[Andrew]

Wow, preach it! Comparing aborting weeks old pregnancies to murdering babies and murdering children is the exact talk that infuriates liberals and motivates them to vote....and angers moderates and motivates them to turn against Republicans. Hope more of your minority talks like this!

Yep...utter puerile drivel. The harder the RWNJs go, the better for the rest of the world when their hypocritical lunacy becomes ever more intolerable.

Fuck off to Russia or North Korea if the freedom of modern society bothers you all so much.

[RPM]

https://www.wdbj7.com/2022/06/27/more-t ... utType=amp

Guess not everyone would rather have high crime, thru the roof inflation, lack of criminal prosecution
Men pretending to be women to win sporting events, unaffordable gas and Taxes on and on. I bet they would
Even rather have a few mean tweets instead. Who ever was driving the dems cranked the wheel to the
left and there will be a price to pay for that. Trump is losing influence but I don't know if it will happen
Fast enough. Bonnie & Clyde are causing so many moderate dems to switch to vote for ANYONE else but them.

[Andrew]

Even rather have a few mean tweets instead.

And blatant corruption, insurrection, blind nepotism, crackpot ideas, kowtowing to dictators, arguing with allies, grifting off stupid supporters, lying every time he opened his mouth, stacking the supreme court with RWNJs...

That's just 10 seconds of thinking to real off that atrocious record.

[RPM]

Even rather have a few mean tweets instead.

And blatant corruption, insurrection, blind nepotism, crackpot ideas, kowtowing to dictators, arguing with allies, grifting off stupid supporters, lying every time he opened his mouth, stacking the supreme court with RWNJs...

That's just 10 seconds of thinking to real off that atrocious record.

I see it extremely bad on both sides. Neither will be getting my vote.

[Monker]

https://www.wdbj7.com/2022/06/27/more-than-1-million-voters-switch-gop-warning-dems/?outputType=amp

Guess not everyone would rather have high crime, thru the roof inflation, lack of criminal prosecution
Men pretending to be women to win sporting events, unaffordable gas and Taxes on and on. I bet they would
Even rather have a few mean tweets instead. Who ever was driving the dems cranked the wheel to the
left and there will be a price to pay for that. Trump is losing influence but I don't know if it will happen
Fast enough. Bonnie & Clyde are causing so many moderate dems to switch to vote for ANYONE else but them.

Or, maybe you are just reading things through your FOX news type of perspective and misleading headlines that grab attention.

"and overall, more than 1 million people became Republicans compared to about 630,000 who became Democrats."

So, you really think that 370,000 voters scattered over 50 states is a big deal, when half of those won't vote, and Biden won the popular vote by 7 million...AND it was looked at prior to RvW being over turned, and it was looked at prior to the 1/6 hearings, and this party switching happens all the time. For you to believe you know the reason is pretty naïve. Like I said in 2018-2019, a lot of things can happen before election day.

The more people like you scream "baby killer", the less likely conservatives will win. Pelosi and Schumer should put out bills to legalize abortion nationwide......and get everyone in congress on record with a straight up vote before election day.

[RPM]

I think any gains made by conservatives are short lived at best. Even though there is a large "Silent Majority"
Of folks in the middle or slightly left or right, The media by and large is determining the narrative and only
The extreme views are being promoted or amplified. What I find interesting is uniquely both sides are in trouble
At the same time. The dems cant shake the progressive push that turns off the moderates, and they have no candidates
That look promising for 2024. Repubs are in a quagmire. They cant shake loose of Trump fast enough and he could sink
The whole ship. The best thing they have going for them is how bad things are financially for average folks. historically
This causes a shift irrigardless of party, but again these are terrible reasons to choose people. Trump was elected because
he wasn't Hillary, Biden was elected because he wasn't Trump and the next one will be elected because he or she isn't Biden.
At this point the fracture of divide in this country runs so deep its hard to imagine it being repaired. usually that takes a war
or catastrophe for people to realize how great we have it here.

[Andrew]

Former President Donald Batshit Crazy Drumpf.

How could anyone take this clown seriously for a second run?

[Andrew]

Trump was elected because
he wasn't Hillary, Biden was elected because he wasn't Trump and the next one will be elected because he or she isn't Biden.
At this point the fracture of divide in this country runs so deep its hard to imagine it being repaired. usually that takes a war
or catastrophe for people to realize how great we have it here.

Very very true...

[Monker]

Trump was elected because
he wasn't Hillary, Biden was elected because he wasn't Trump and the next one will be elected because he or she isn't Biden.
At this point the fracture of divide in this country runs so deep its hard to imagine it being repaired. usually that takes a war
or catastrophe for people to realize how great we have it here.

Very very true...

I don't think this is true at all. Trump got elected because many liberals/Democrats stayed home and did not vote. Biden got elected because many more liberals/Democrats came out to vote. There were not millions of people moving between the parties voting in the way described...it was Democrats being lazy and then being, "OMG, look what happens when we don't vote..." The fact is there are more liberals and Democrats in the US than there are Republicans and conservatives. If liberals/Democrats actually voted like they did for Biden they would never lose a national election...or, at least not lose the popular vote. Even Hillary did not lose the popular vote.

IMO, it is very possible that the Senate will remain with the Democrats after the midterms - because of RvW and the 1/6 hearings. That should motivate them to vote. It is also possible that some other story could take over and take that motivation away......like I said, anything can happen.

[Monker]

Former President Donald Batshit Crazy Drumpf.

How could anyone take this clown seriously for a second run?

You watch the hearings or snips and then you know this guy was unfit to be President from the start. Everybody knew it. The Republicans who religiously backed him up also knew it but stuck with him...and that is an even bigger disappointment. Even FOX new should have known it, but they STILL support him. He should have been kicked out of office LONG before 1/6 even happened. Trump should be run out of politics by the REPUBLICANS...but they have no integrity and the entire party is too far up Trump's ass to let him go.

I don't even watch the hearings. I watched the first day and that was it. I do not need any more reminders of how much of a lunatic he is.

[RPM]

Former President Donald Batshit Crazy Drumpf.

How could anyone take this clown seriously for a second run?

It’s a bit bewildering. Who in there right mind would join his cabinet?
Could there possibly be a more loyal VP then Pence was? He tossed him
Like a salad. Mad dog, same thing and on and on. This is a great opportunity
For someone to run on many of the same issues / talking points he did.
Things like the border and inflation and such will reasonate very well
With republicans. They don’t need him, and would be better off without him.

[Monker]

Former President Donald Batshit Crazy Drumpf.

How could anyone take this clown seriously for a second run?

It’s a bit bewildering. Who in there right mind would join his cabinet?

Ivanka, Jared, Don jr, Eric, maybe Tiffany if they get desperate. Then there is Tucker, Hannity, Laura ingram, that loud mouth judge lady. Eho kisses his ass on OAN and Newsmax? I don't watch those. Oh, and Mike Lindell. He could find lots of people, really. Herschel Walker, Dr. Oz...on and on and on. You just have to pledge your loyalty, kneel and kiss his ring. There are a lot of Republicans who have done it and would do it again.

[RPM]

I blame the media to a large extent for the state of affairs. sure, we all have a personal responsibility
To seek the truth. But since "Journalism" has morphed into talking heads with opinions trying to tell
people how to think & feel the division has grown and widened. In reality they are just businesses to make money.
There was a time when reporting false or unverified information was not only a fireable offense, your reputation
Was shattered. Then Fox figured out that cnn's original format (24/7 NEWS reporting) was not that profitable
So we got Bill o'reilly, Hannity, Madcow, sloppy Joe, tucker and on and on....now its all about $$$$$
But why have they connected so deeply with each side? I was hoping the great division was mostly Trump related.
This is false, it is much deeper and dangerous than that. I haven't watched "network" news for along time and don't
Miss it.

[Andrew]

I blame the media to a large extent for the state of affairs. sure, we all have a personal responsibility
To seek the truth. But since "Journalism" has morphed into talking heads with opinions trying to tell
people how to think & feel the division has grown and widened. In reality they are just businesses to make money.
There was a time when reporting false or unverified information was not only a fireable offense, your reputation
Was shattered. Then Fox figured out that cnn's original format (24/7 NEWS reporting) was not that profitable
So we got Bill o'reilly, Hannity, Madcow, sloppy Joe, tucker and on and on....now its all about $$$$$
But why have they connected so deeply with each side? I was hoping the great division was mostly Trump related.
This is false, it is much deeper and dangerous than that. I haven't watched "network" news for along time and don't
Miss it.

Most of it is all Fox "News". Paid advertising for GOP and conservative views, thanks to the biggest criminal in the world, Rupert Murdoch. He's fucked up the media in the UK and here in Australia too. Cretin.

[RPM]

I blame the media to a large extent for the state of affairs. sure, we all have a personal responsibility
To seek the truth. But since "Journalism" has morphed into talking heads with opinions trying to tell
people how to think & feel the division has grown and widened. In reality they are just businesses to make money.
There was a time when reporting false or unverified information was not only a fireable offense, your reputation
Was shattered. Then Fox figured out that cnn's original format (24/7 NEWS reporting) was not that profitable
So we got Bill o'reilly, Hannity, Madcow, sloppy Joe, tucker and on and on....now its all about $$$$$
But why have they connected so deeply with each side? I was hoping the great division was mostly Trump related.
This is false, it is much deeper and dangerous than that. I haven't watched "network" news for along time and don't
Miss it.

Most of it is all Fox "News". Paid advertising for GOP and conservative views, thanks to the biggest criminal in the world, Rupert Murdoch. He's fucked up the media in the UK and here in Australia too. Cretin.

Wow....Fox news is certainly not most of the media. sure, its the most watched and highest rated here but I don't see
Any difference currently between the networks. its all talking heads. I can't think of another "Conservative media outlet" Here, Maybe its different there Andrew ?

[Andrew]

Wow....Fox news is certainly not most of the media. sure, its the most watched and highest rated here but I don't see
Any difference currently between the networks. its all talking heads. I can't think of another "Conservative media outlet" Here, Maybe its different there Andrew ?

Murdoch owns Fox and Sky in the UK, Sky here in AU (very low viewership).

Then you guys have OANN (LOL) and Sinclair Broadcast Group networks, plus Newsmax. The Left has MSNBC and CNN (in part).

[RPM]

Wow....Fox news is certainly not most of the media. sure, its the most watched and highest rated here but I don't see
Any difference currently between the networks. its all talking heads. I can't think of another "Conservative media outlet" Here, Maybe its different there Andrew ?

Murdoch owns Fox and Sky in the UK, Sky here in AU (very low viewership).

Then you guys have OANN (LOL) and Sinclair Broadcast Group networks, plus Newsmax. The Left has MSNBC and CNN (in part).

I didn’t know he had Sky as well. I’ve only seen a few YouTube clips, is it just like Fox ?

[Aaron]

Why so little discussion on Brandon's thread? He must be doing such a great job there's not comments to make. Inquiring minds want to know.

[Andrew]

I didn’t know he had Sky as well. I’ve only seen a few YouTube clips, is it just like Fox ?

More or less....news during the day and right-wing opinionated talking heads at night. It's a joke network here.