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Re: The Joseph R Biden Presidential Thread

Postby Monker » Sun Jul 03, 2022 5:20 pm

Aaron wrote:Why so little discussion on Brandon's thread? He must be doing such a great job there's not comments to make. Inquiring minds want to know.


Because when you say things like "Brandon's thread", all you are doing is trolling for a reply to an insult, and you are not even attempting to "discuss" anything. It is the same thing with your "killing babies" post. People gave up on this thread, and the Trump thread, a very long time ago for any type of real "discussion", free of trolling and insults.
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Re: The Joseph R Biden Presidential Thread

Postby RPM » Mon Jul 04, 2022 12:44 pm

Aaron wrote:Why so little discussion on Brandon's thread? He must be doing such a great job there's not comments to make. Inquiring minds want to know.


Everyone understands he is not the Answer and the administration is a disaster, there isn't much to discuss there.
The real question is where do we go from here? Trump is not the answer either. yeah, I liked the low gas prices
and more secure border, but he has disqualified himself. We are in desperate need of a leader that will not bow
to the extreme views on either side, but be strong more in the middle where despite what the media says most Americans still are.
I do believe this will change. The last census on Americans who believe in God registered the lowest amount on record.
The poll found the groups with the largest declines are also the groups that are currently least likely to believe in God, including liberals (62%), young adults (68%) and Democrats (72%). Belief in God is highest among political conservatives (94%) and Republicans (92%), which Gallup said reflects “that religiosity is a major determinant of political divisions in the U.S.”

https://nypost.com/2022/06/19/number-of ... toric-low/

As we move towards a more secular society, the progressive view will dominate even as it attacks itself.
The conservative's are not doing themselves any favors by refusing to acknowledge issues like gun control
Which Need open minded and tough measures to limit the death & destruction of families from Gun violence.
We have already had 37 shot, 7 dead in Chicago this weekend alone. No doubt these were mostly from illegal
Guns, probably by felon's or those out on bail or parole. Biden's Answer was to ban "Ghost guns" (which I agree with)
but You would have to be a complete idiot to think Gang related Gun violence is the product of "Ghost Guns"
Usually this sadly all comes down to money. N.R.A. & Unions, secondly its about Race pandering. but the facts & Math
do not lie.
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Re: The Joseph R Biden Presidential Thread

Postby Andrew » Mon Jul 04, 2022 12:53 pm

RPM wrote:As we move towards a more secular society....


It seems the USA is being run by a handful of lunatic right-wing conservative religious nutters....not the other way.

WTF is wrong with your supreme court for example?!
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Re: The Joseph R Biden Presidential Thread

Postby RPM » Mon Jul 04, 2022 1:25 pm

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RPM wrote:As we move towards a more secular society....


It seems the USA is being run by a handful of lunatic right-wing conservative religious nutters....not the other way.

WTF is wrong with your supreme court for example?!



I do not know what your definition of a lunatic religious conservative is, however no doubt
We certainly do have those here Andrew, (as do most any country) but I think you would need to look closer to get the full view.
There is a glaring discrepancy between Rural & Large cities in almost every category. But as far as your question "what is wrong
With the Supreme Court" I assume you are referring to the Abortion ruling giving the power back to the states. Personally, I believe
It should be a federal issue. However I am far from qualified to determine if the Roe vs Wade case was strong enough to merit
Upholding. I would like to see more major issues determined by referendum. Politicians hate them because it gives so much power
To people who actually vote, but at least the chips fall where they may....
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Re: The Joseph R Biden Presidential Thread

Postby Andrew » Mon Jul 04, 2022 1:42 pm

SCOTUS - Gun law relaxing NYC; RvW; and then the EPA ruling. Insanity...
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Re: The Joseph R Biden Presidential Thread

Postby RPM » Mon Jul 04, 2022 2:08 pm

Andrew wrote:SCOTUS - Gun law relaxing NYC; RvW; and then the EPA ruling. Insanity...



Keep in mind, they are strictly ruling on the facts & strength of the case before them. not on the overall
Effect of the outcome, these indeed can be two different things. My point being you possibly could be correct
in thinking the outcome would be "insanity" but a jury is always instructed to rule based on the merit of the case
presented. That being said, Unlike any liberal or progressive on this board I acknowledge there is a certain level
Of bias present.
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Re: The Joseph R Biden Presidential Thread

Postby Andrew » Mon Jul 04, 2022 3:39 pm

RPM wrote: I acknowledge there is a certain level
Of bias present.


Indeed. Very dangerous and IMHO sets the USA back further still....on the same path the Orange Sphincter was sending the country.
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Re: The Joseph R Biden Presidential Thread

Postby Monker » Mon Jul 04, 2022 6:57 pm

RPM wrote:
Andrew wrote:SCOTUS - Gun law relaxing NYC; RvW; and then the EPA ruling. Insanity...



Keep in mind, they are strictly ruling on the facts & strength of the case before them. not on the overall
Effect of the outcome, these indeed can be two different things. My point being you possibly could be correct
in thinking the outcome would be "insanity" but a jury is always instructed to rule based on the merit of the case
presented. That being said, Unlike any liberal or progressive on this board I acknowledge there is a certain level
Of bias present.


There is no jury on Supreme Court cases.
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Re: The Joseph R Biden Presidential Thread

Postby Monker » Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:10 pm

Andrew wrote:SCOTUS - Gun law relaxing NYC; RvW; and then the EPA ruling. Insanity...


Here is the issue...both W and Trump lost the popular vote but won their election. Combine that with McConnell ignoring the nomination of Merrick Garland. You end up with six justices nominated by Republicans, and a far right conservative majority that does not represent the people.

Voting matters....Democrats and Liberals should now know that.
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Re: The Joseph R Biden Presidential Thread

Postby RPM » Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:58 am

Andrew wrote:
RPM wrote: I acknowledge there is a certain level
Of bias present.


Indeed. Very dangerous and IMHO sets the USA back further still....on the same path the Orange Sphincter was sending the country.


Impossible to eliminate. We are currently on a very destructive path that I am not optimistic about
It changing for the better. We have a huge Gun violence problem that we are not willing to address head on.
Some of our most beautiful cities are being turned into crime wastelands and on and on.
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Re: The Joseph R Biden Presidential Thread

Postby RPM » Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:01 am

As I was typing my last post, this happened.

Illinois 4th of July parade erupts into chaos after shooting kills 5, injures 16

https://www.foxnews.com/us/chaos-erupts ... uly-parade
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Re: The Joseph R Biden Presidential Thread

Postby Andrew » Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:39 pm

Dreadful. Horrible. For all people.... Sad.
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Re: The Joseph R Biden Presidential Thread

Postby RPM » Wed Jul 06, 2022 7:10 am

Andrew wrote:Dreadful. Horrible. For all people.... Sad.



No Doubt. I won't post more of those links here as its not thread related, the timing was ironic.
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Re: The Joseph R Biden Presidential Thread

Postby Monker » Wed Jul 06, 2022 11:20 am

RPM wrote:
Andrew wrote:Dreadful. Horrible. For all people.... Sad.



No Doubt. I won't post more of those links here as its not thread related, the timing was ironic.


The guy is charged with murder, which he should be. He legally purchased two rifles. They were not stolen or somehow gang related. He seems to have been planning this for weeks.

It pertains to this thread because the stupidity of the Republican party will not ban the sale of these type of weapons. This tragedy should be placed directly on those who REFUSE to see the reality that their inaction is placing the right to murder people above the rights of those who are murdered. There is no excuse for this.

The issues of the November election should be:
Abortion rights...and the threat of other established cases being overturned by the court.
The 1/6 hearings and the hypocrisy and denial of Republicans
Gun reform.

If Democrats can push those issues to the front, they won't do too bad.
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Re: The Joseph R Biden Presidential Thread

Postby Andrew » Thu Aug 11, 2022 3:20 pm

I plead the 5th!

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Re: The Joseph R Biden Presidential Thread

Postby ebake02 » Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:09 am

Andrew wrote:I plead the 5th!

LOL



Yeah, we're supposed to believe that oompa loompa is innocent when pleads the 5th in a perfect opportunity to prove it. :lol:
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Re: The Joseph R Biden Presidential Thread

Postby Monker » Fri Aug 12, 2022 3:12 pm

This is ridiculous....he supposed to have secrets about our nuclear arsenal. This absolutely ridiculous. He could have given this stuff to his boyfriend in Korea, or his idol in Russia. How could ANYBODY *NOT* want every property Trump has be "raided" and searched. The guy is a nut.
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Re: The Joseph R Biden Presidential Thread

Postby Andrew » Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:04 pm

Monker wrote:This is ridiculous....he supposed to have secrets about our nuclear arsenal. This absolutely ridiculous. He could have given this stuff to his boyfriend in Korea, or his idol in Russia. How could ANYBODY *NOT* want every property Trump has be "raided" and searched. The guy is a nut.


I've seen a few still defending him without question. I can understand someone being a Republican (don't get that way of thinking, especially now the party is hard right), but I have come to the conclusion that if you are a ardent Trump supporter you are either blindingly stupid or a complete asshole. maybe both.
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Re: The Joseph R Biden Presidential Thread

Postby ebake02 » Sat Aug 13, 2022 2:29 am

Monker wrote:This is ridiculous....he supposed to have secrets about our nuclear arsenal. This absolutely ridiculous. He could have given this stuff to his boyfriend in Korea, or his idol in Russia. How could ANYBODY *NOT* want every property Trump has be "raided" and searched. The guy is a nut.


The coverage on Fox News is nauseating too, I turned it on out of curiosity and it only took 5 minutes before I wanted to throw an axe through my TV. The lengths that those people are going to kiss his ass and pander to his idiot supporters is mind boggling.
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Re: The Joseph R Biden Presidential Thread

Postby Andrew » Sat Aug 13, 2022 7:53 pm

ebake02 wrote:The coverage on Fox News is nauseating too, I turned it on out of curiosity and it only took 5 minutes before I wanted to throw an axe through my TV. The lengths that those people are going to kiss his ass and pander to his idiot supporters is mind boggling.


Always makes me wonder what it would take for that lunatic channel and some of his supporters to change their minds finally. Treason and insurrection don't seem to matter. Now keeping top secret documents doesn't either. Blatant hypocrisy of the highest order compared to some of their Anti-Democrat campaigns.
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Re: The Joseph R Biden Presidential Thread

Postby Monker » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:54 am

ebake02 wrote:
Monker wrote:This is ridiculous....he supposed to have secrets about our nuclear arsenal. This absolutely ridiculous. He could have given this stuff to his boyfriend in Korea, or his idol in Russia. How could ANYBODY *NOT* want every property Trump has be "raided" and searched. The guy is a nut.


The coverage on Fox News is nauseating too, I turned it on out of curiosity and it only took 5 minutes before I wanted to throw an axe through my TV. The lengths that those people are going to kiss his ass and pander to his idiot supporters is mind boggling.


Yeah, I watched a little bit of it. One guy was insisting it was a Democrat conspiracy to force Trump to not be able to run because the Democrat's are so scared of him. So, the DOJ, run by a guy TRUMP selected - and who is a REPUBLICAN is doing the bidding of Democrats for a Democrat. They are in fantasyland and just making stuff up.
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Re: The Joseph R Biden Presidential Thread

Postby Aaron » Sun Sep 18, 2022 3:26 pm

The dusch resident can only bring this much attention? Why is that?
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Re: The Joseph R Biden Presidential Thread

Postby Andrew » Sun Sep 18, 2022 4:44 pm

Aaron wrote:The dusch resident can only bring this much attention? Why is that?


Because it seems a lot of Journey fans are RWNJs and I banned a bunch for being totally objectionable. I have no respect for hard right wingers. It ain't 1950 anymore. No big loss as they only ever banged on about one side of the equation.
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Re: The Joseph R Biden Presidential Thread

Postby Aaron » Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:23 pm

Jeezus Mac, you have heard of supply and demand?

Andrew wrote:
RPM wrote:Man, I cant wait for Brandon's second term. $10.00 per gallon of gas & World war 3
but hey, there isn't any stupid tweets and we wont have to worry about climate change!


A definite improvement.

However, gas is expensive here and everywhere else, yet Biden isn't president of Australia. How does he make our gas prices expensive? New world order I'm sure.
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Re: The Joseph R Biden Presidential Thread

Postby Aaron » Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:32 pm

I would like to see the data that shows your 75% of the country. I don't think anyone really cares about RvW, it's an overblown issue used to manage the useful emotional idiots. All the Court did was move the decision back to the states and closer to the people. Why would you think this is a wrong?


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RPM wrote:Relax Progressives, You can still Kill babies. just go to California, and move there while your at it.


This is a losing issue for Republicans. 75% of the country wanted RvW to stand. Insulting comments like the above is going to motivate a lot of people to vote against them....and not just. Liberals.
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Re: The Joseph R Biden Presidential Thread

Postby Aaron » Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:38 pm

No sir it's not offensive, it's factual. Post birth abortion is legal in some states.

I don't think most would argue against abortion in cases of rape, mother's health. etc. Do you only watch CNBC or MSNBC?

You do realize the 2nd Amendment was put into place to keep a tyrannical government from taking over the county. Freedom has a price.

I think your view of conservatives is very distorted based on my experience. What I miss is having an open conversation without name calling, etc.

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RPM wrote:Relax Progressives, You can still Kill babies. just go to California, and move there while your at it.


That's so offensive. And blatantly hypocritical. You can't abort a rape pregnancy, but you can shoot dead all the kids you like in school.

Conservative America is beyond fucked. What happened to my favourite country (besides my own).
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Re: The Joseph R Biden Presidential Thread

Postby Aaron » Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:49 pm

Trump is a disrupter which is why he is so hated. He chose to listen to himself instead of entrenched "experts" that have tons of influence but no accountability. I live here and did not see any corruption. I watched Jan 6th real time and people were let into the Capital. His "crackpot" ideas lead to a great economy. Why would making friends with dictators be a problem? No wars under Trump. You have heard the old story keep your friends close and enemies closer? If you look at what he's said he's been right a lot. Arguing with Allies that are taking advantage of us for years. He warned Germany of Russia and their reliance on Russian energy. The arrogant Germans made fun of him, and now they will likely freeze this winter.

The bottom line is the USA doesn't need any of the allies and Trump recognized this and turned off the free gravy train.

The biggest impact he had was his SCOTUS picks.

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RPM wrote:Even rather have a few mean tweets instead.


And blatant corruption, insurrection, blind nepotism, crackpot ideas, kowtowing to dictators, arguing with allies, grifting off stupid supporters, lying every time he opened his mouth, stacking the supreme court with RWNJs...

That's just 10 seconds of thinking to real off that atrocious record.
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Re: The Joseph R Biden Presidential Thread

Postby Aaron » Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:51 pm

A very reasonable view. Good post sir.

RPM wrote:I think any gains made by conservatives are short lived at best. Even though there is a large "Silent Majority"
Of folks in the middle or slightly left or right, The media by and large is determining the narrative and only
The extreme views are being promoted or amplified. What I find interesting is uniquely both sides are in trouble
At the same time. The dems cant shake the progressive push that turns off the moderates, and they have no candidates
That look promising for 2024. Repubs are in a quagmire. They cant shake loose of Trump fast enough and he could sink
The whole ship. The best thing they have going for them is how bad things are financially for average folks. historically
This causes a shift irrigardless of party, but again these are terrible reasons to choose people. Trump was elected because
he wasn't Hillary, Biden was elected because he wasn't Trump and the next one will be elected because he or she isn't Biden.
At this point the fracture of divide in this country runs so deep its hard to imagine it being repaired. usually that takes a war
or catastrophe for people to realize how great we have it here.
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Re: The Joseph R Biden Presidential Thread

Postby Aaron » Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:57 pm

Truth, nice post. Fox is just as bad as CNN and MSMBC. But CCN is firing their talking heads. Why?

RPM wrote:
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RPM wrote:I blame the media to a large extent for the state of affairs. sure, we all have a personal responsibility
To seek the truth. But since "Journalism" has morphed into talking heads with opinions trying to tell
people how to think & feel the division has grown and widened. In reality they are just businesses to make money.
There was a time when reporting false or unverified information was not only a fireable offense, your reputation
Was shattered. Then Fox figured out that cnn's original format (24/7 NEWS reporting) was not that profitable
So we got Bill o'reilly, Hannity, Madcow, sloppy Joe, tucker and on and on....now its all about $$$$$
But why have they connected so deeply with each side? I was hoping the great division was mostly Trump related.
This is false, it is much deeper and dangerous than that. I haven't watched "network" news for along time and don't
Miss it.


Most of it is all Fox "News". Paid advertising for GOP and conservative views, thanks to the biggest criminal in the world, Rupert Murdoch. He's fucked up the media in the UK and here in Australia too. Cretin.


Wow....Fox news is certainly not most of the media. sure, its the most watched and highest rated here but I don't see
Any difference currently between the networks. its all talking heads. I can't think of another "Conservative media outlet" Here, Maybe its different there Andrew ?
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Re: The Joseph R Biden Presidential Thread

Postby Aaron » Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:02 pm

Wow, and this coming from you? You arrogance is astounding.

Monker wrote:
Aaron wrote:Why so little discussion on Brandon's thread? He must be doing such a great job there's not comments to make. Inquiring minds want to know.


Because when you say things like "Brandon's thread", all you are doing is trolling for a reply to an insult, and you are not even attempting to "discuss" anything. It is the same thing with your "killing babies" post. People gave up on this thread, and the Trump thread, a very long time ago for any type of real "discussion", free of trolling and insults.
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