The Joseph R Biden Presidential Thread

[Monker]

Here is a Republican who could get my vote.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK_BsdVJSTA

[Andrew]

That was funny.

[Monker]

Here is her full routine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giTRHXF ... nel=C-SPAN

[ebake02]

best response was Pence Who handled it correctly. Admitted it should not have happened, but complied promptly .

Agree...handled well. But didn't Biden do the same?

It's only Trumplethinskin and Fox News that are having a coronary over this.

Watching Fox News twist themselves around like a pretzel is mind blowing. When Trump got caught they were throwing a tantrum that it was witch hunt but then when Biden got caught with the same thing they were ready to throw him in prison.

[RPM]

best response was Pence Who handled it correctly. Admitted it should not have happened, but complied promptly .

Agree...handled well. But didn't Biden do the same?

It's only Trumplethinskin and Fox News that are having a coronary over this.

Watching Fox News twist themselves around like a pretzel is mind blowing. When Trump got caught they were throwing a tantrum that it was witch hunt but then when Biden got caught with the same thing they were ready to throw him in prison.

They all do it. it's all about ratings = Money....Real Journalism is as extinct as Musicians making money from Records....

[Andrew]

Watching Fox News twist themselves around like a pretzel is mind blowing. When Trump got caught they were throwing a tantrum that it was witch hunt but then when Biden got caught with the same thing they were ready to throw him in prison.

Hypocrisy is their mission statement. And their viewers expect it or are too stupid to realize. Hope the Dominion suit kills them.

[yulog]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDDaAr4M328.

[Andrew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDDaAr4M328.

What a shocker. More hypocrisy.

[Monker]

They all do it. it's all about ratings = Money....Real Journalism is as extinct as Musicians making money from Records....

Not to the extent Fox does. The more recent news on the Dominion lawsuit is that it seems EVERYBODY at Fox knew all the election fraud stuff was a LIE but continued to broadcast it anyway because that is what their viewers wanted. Even Murdoch admitted he knew it was all lies and could have forced all of the Fox personalities/opinionators to stop broadcasting lies, but he didn't. This may cost Fox hundreds of millions of dollars to Dominion.

Show me where another network is in such a fix as Fox is for allowing people like Rudy Guilianni and Sidney Powell to go on their network and knowingly LIE to the point where the network got sued. Release the kraken indeed...the Kraken turned and bit Rupert Murdoch in the ass.

Oh, yeah, I forgot Newsmax is also being sued by Dominion. And, this is not even mentioning Smartmatic. So, there is all that, too.

[Andrew]

Faux News. Long may they suffer at the hands of their own hubris.

[RPM]

Faux News. Long may they suffer at the hands of their own hubris.

Lol...cnn was caught red handed blowing Russiagate, Huntergate, and now wuhanlab gate... call it what it is Andrew.
They all have their own agenda, and it's all about money. If you want to blame Fox for monopolizing it I would agree with that.
But in Truth in started innocently enough with Ted Koppel on Nightline during the Iraq War. He was at least a real journalist.

[Andrew]

Faux News. Long may they suffer at the hands of their own hubris.

Lol...cnn was caught red handed blowing Russiagate, Huntergate, and now wuhanlab gate....

Sorry, Faux has spent 100x the hours bloviating and spewing misdirection on all three of those subjects.

Hunter Biden’s laptop…Christ on a bike, that has to be the single lamest subject of total and utter irrelevance in the history of RWNJ conspiracy theories.

[RPM]

Faux News. Long may they suffer at the hands of their own hubris.

Lol...cnn was caught red handed blowing Russiagate, Huntergate, and now wuhanlab gate....

Sorry, Faux has spent 100x the hours bloviating and spewing misdirection on all three of those subjects.

Hunter Biden’s laptop…Christ on a bike, that has to be the single lamest subject of total and utter irrelevance in the history of RWNJ conspiracy theories.

It’s not the news business, it’s the entertainment business. I don’t belong to any political party
Or own stock in any of them so no need to apologize for hating on Fox, I just see no difference between them.

[ebake02]

Faux News. Long may they suffer at the hands of their own hubris.

Lol...cnn was caught red handed blowing Russiagate, Huntergate, and now wuhanlab gate... call it what it is Andrew.
They all have their own agenda, and it's all about money. If you want to blame Fox for monopolizing it I would agree with that.
But in Truth in started innocently enough with Ted Koppel on Nightline during the Iraq War. He was at least a real journalist.

CNN has had their own share problems for sure but Fox News is so terrified of their own viewers that they’ll blatantly lie and cater to a despot like Trump to protect their bottom line.

[Monker]

It’s not the news business, it’s the entertainment business. I don’t belong to any political party
Or own stock in any of them so no need to apologize for hating on Fox, I just see no difference between them.

Again, what other news organization has ever had two billion dollar lawsuits against them for defamation and now public evidence of their personalities knowing they were blatantly lying to their audience, inviting guests on who they knew were lying to their audience, and a CEO who ADMITS he knew all about the lies of both their personalities and guests but did nothing about it?

There is a HUGE difference between company sponsored LIES and the stupid shit that MSNBC regularly broadcasts, and the sometimes stupid shit that CNN broadcasts.

Yeah, you can argue, like Russel Brand did on Bill Maher, that MSNBC is owned by the same type of billionaires who only care about money and power...and it is a bit futile to say one is worse than the other. But, FOX is STILL on a different level when it comes to knowingly continuously LYING to their audience of zombies who can't think for themselves. That is a HUGE difference than what I see on any other network.

Russel Brand going off on a MSNBC dude on Bill Mahar:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsQUQaf ... amSparling

The Ted Koppel interview from 5yrs ago when he had Sean Hannity on and said he was bad for America SHOULD have been a turning point. All Hannity could do is say his show was not a "news" show but entertainment.

Koppel interviewing Hannity:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmaKl0Z ... dayMorning

"You have attracted people who believe ideology is more important than facts." That is a problem with the ENTIRE FOX NETWORK now. THAT is their audience, MAGA, far right idealists who only care to see "news" that agrees with THEIR opinion, THEIR ideology, and they would rather be lied to than hear the truth if it means their "news" agrees with them.

"Russiagate" has been debated here to the point of nausea.

Hunter's laptop is such is such bullshit. Files on a stolen laptop...it is just stupid shit that has gone on for years.

"Wuhangate" is based on TWO government agencies who said Covid could have come from a lab, and this last one said it had low confidence in that opinion. In other words, it could have but they do not know. That is what you base a government conspiracy on? "Eh, maybe" and "Eh, it's possible but we but we are pretty unsure if it did." That is a 'gate'? Fucking stupid. And, who cares? Covid should not have even become a political is but Trump MADE it political because he dropped the ball in the beginning and rather then accepting that, he does what he does and blamed everybody else and did whatever he could to take the focus off of himself and his own stupidity. That is the reason the Kung Fu virus, China Flu, origin is even being talked about and looking to place blame.

[RPM]

It’s not the news business, it’s the entertainment business. I don’t belong to any political party
Or own stock in any of them so no need to apologize for hating on Fox, I just see no difference between them.

Again, what other news organization has ever had two billion dollar lawsuits against them for defamation and now public evidence of their personalities knowing they were blatantly lying to their audience, inviting guests on who they knew were lying to their audience, and a CEO who ADMITS he knew all about the lies of both their personalities and guests but did nothing about it?

There is a HUGE difference between company sponsored LIES and the stupid shit that MSNBC regularly broadcasts, and the sometimes stupid shit that CNN broadcasts.

Yeah, you can argue, like Russel Brand did on Bill Maher, that MSNBC is owned by the same type of billionaires who only care about money and power...and it is a bit futile to say one is worse than the other. But, FOX is STILL on a different level when it comes to knowingly continuously LYING to their audience of zombies who can't think for themselves. That is a HUGE difference than what I see on any other network.

Russel Brand going off on a MSNBC dude on Bill Mahar:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsQUQaf ... amSparling

The Ted Koppel interview from 5yrs ago when he had Sean Hannity on and said he was bad for America SHOULD have been a turning point. All Hannity could do is say his show was not a "news" show but entertainment.

Koppel interviewing Hannity:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmaKl0Z ... dayMorning

"You have attracted people who believe ideology is more important than facts." That is a problem with the ENTIRE FOX NETWORK now. THAT is their audience, MAGA, far right idealists who only care to see "news" that agrees with THEIR opinion, THEIR ideology, and they would rather be lied to than hear the truth if it means their "news" agrees with them.

"Russiagate" has been debated here to the point of nausea.

Hunter's laptop is such is such bullshit. Files on a stolen laptop...it is just stupid shit that has gone on for years.

"Wuhangate" is based on TWO government agencies who said Covid could have come from a lab, and this last one said it had low confidence in that opinion. In other words, it could have but they do not know. That is what you base a government conspiracy on? "Eh, maybe" and "Eh, it's possible but we but we are pretty unsure if it did." That is a 'gate'? Fucking stupid. And, who cares? Covid should not have even become a political is but Trump MADE it political because he dropped the ball in the beginning and rather then accepting that, he does what he does and blamed everybody else and did whatever he could to take the focus off of himself and his own stupidity. That is the reason the Kung Fu virus, China Flu, origin is even being talked about and looking to place blame.

You're not getting my point (shocking!) so let me clarify, obviously there are some differences between them .
One being viewership, fox outperforms the rest of them combined. google search shows below.

"According to Nielsen Media Research, FNC remained as cable's most-watched network in total day and primetime with both total viewers and the 25-54 demo. FNC surpassed CNN and MSNBC combined with total day and primetime viewers and was number one in all of cable with total day and primetime viewers".Aug 2, 2022

Does this mean they are better at news ? NO , they are better at entertainment. I watch the first half hour of "The Five"
Daily because it's entertaining, I find greg hilarious and generally agree with Dana Perino. but to me, they suck at news.
If something real happens I switch to cnn...but back to my original point....I see no difference between them at their core
because they have become all about pushing whatever ideology they agree with and thats not news. I remember that Koppel
interview with Sean which I found very interesting. to me, it was like if you watch Rev. Billy Graham talking with Joel olsteen.
One was real & and believed in the truth and his profession with the utmost respect, the other becoming wealthy and famous
sacrificing integrity for power. Funny how quickly you dismiss the other networks fumbles, the hypocrisy in your statement is glaring.
I will choose to see all of them for what they are irregardless if I agree with one ideology more than another. I really don't care if you do not.

[Monker]

Your point is this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A0dOUC ... ssellBrand

My point is that the Dominion lawsuit shows FOX is beyond "media bias" and is a culture of lies from the CEO on down...admitted to in court.

IMO, there is a big different between shaming anti-vaccine believers because the hosts believe not wearing a mask or getting a vaccine endangers everybody....and the entire network knowingly lying to the audience about widespread voter fraud in a Presidential election.

[RPM]

Your point is this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A0dOUC ... ssellBrand

My point is that the Dominion lawsuit shows FOX is beyond "media bias" and is a culture of lies from the CEO on down...admitted to in court.



IMO, there is a big different between shaming anti-vaccine believers because the hosts believe not wearing a mask or getting a vaccine endangers everybody....and the entire network knowingly lying to the audience about widespread voter fraud in a Presidential election.

Your Example is accurate, very much my point.

Fox may have been caught in court lying, but there’s plenty of that going around on all the networks
I think including every employee is a stretch , and probably not accurate. Does fox have a more slimy owner?
Very well could be. How the end result is manifesting itself across our news networks is disturbing.
Do you think a Ted Koppel could compete in todays world of personality, opinion drivel?
I doubt it and that’s a shame.

[Aaron]

getting zeros because he's a zero?

[ebake02]

Fox News is having a full on nuclear meltdown over the Trump indictment and it’s quite comical.

[Andrew]

Fox News is having a full on nuclear meltdown over the Trump indictment and it’s quite comical.

And you just know it’s all just acting. All bullshit for the Magamorons.

[ebake02]

Fox News is having a full on nuclear meltdown over the Trump indictment and it’s quite comical.

And you just know it’s all just acting. All bullshit for the Magamorons.

Yeah, it’s all complete crap. Same goes for republican politicians too, they’re pretending to be outraged to keep their gullible simple minded constituents happy but you know they’re all privately cheering behind closed doors.

[RPM]

Fox News is having a full on nuclear meltdown over the Trump indictment and it’s quite comical.

And you just know it’s all just acting. All bullshit for the Magamorons.

Yeah, it’s all complete crap. Same goes for republican politicians too, they’re pretending to be outraged to keep their gullible simple minded constituents happy but you know they’re all privately cheering behind closed doors.

It is comical, you have a d.a. who turns felonies into misdemeanor's ...except this time its the opposite...lol..
Whatever, I actually hope it works as stupid as it is because I don't want him running for re election so go for it.
Mike Pence is gonna run at some point and he even has some respect from the middle left. might have a shot.
Just please no Trump, Hillary, dead man joe, we need better choices from our 330 million !

[Monker]

It is comical, you have a d.a. who turns felonies into misdemeanor's ...except this time its the opposite...lol..
Whatever, I actually hope it works as stupid as it is because I don't want him running for re election so go for it.
Mike Pence is gonna run at some point and he even has some respect from the middle left. might have a shot.
Just please no Trump, Hillary, dead man joe, we need better choices from our 330 million !

Pence is not going to get many "middle of the left" voters, which is essentially the Democrat base. Pence is at the heart a Christian Fundamentalist Conservative. He is strongly opposed to fundamental things that are hot topics. Abortion, LGBT rights, climate change, etc. He may pull some independents, but he would also rally many Democrats and the far left who now see what happens to their rights and beliefs when conservative Christians run the Supreme Court. Pence has integrity, but he doesn't have the politics.

Trump is going to keep running. Republicans are incredibly hypocritical. During the last impeachment, one of their arguments against impeachment was that if he was guilty of something, charge him after he leaves office, not while he was serving the final weeks of his term. So, he is charged and they swarm against it anyway. Hypocrites and liars.

Hillary is not going to run again. What a farce of a concept. The only Clinton that could run is Chelsea and that's not going to happen. You may as well talk about Oprah or Michelle Obama, which are not going to run but have more of a chance than any Clinton.

I think Joe Biden is set up for a second term. Republicans are nuts for Trump, who can't win the election...he has proven that. Desantis is the FOX choice but he can't get any traction. None of the other Republicans are even close right now. Biden really hasn't done that bad, IMO. All the whining about gas prices and inflation was ridiculous distraction bullshit. He led us through the pandemic. He got us out of Afghanistan. He actually passed infrastructure...proving he can work bipartisan. He has done a LOT so far in the first term...some things that Republicans talked a lot about but show no action on. The only legitimate point Republicans have had against Biden is HOW we left Afghanistan. All the rest of it: inflation, gas prices, Hunter's laptop, etc., is all bullshit media hype.

[ebake02]

Pence is not going to get many "middle of the left" voters, which is essentially the Democrat base. Pence is at the heart a Christian Fundamentalist Conservative. He is strongly opposed to fundamental things that are hot topics. Abortion, LGBT rights, climate change, etc. He may pull some independents, but he would also rally many Democrats and the far left who now see what happens to their rights and beliefs when conservative Christians run the Supreme Court. Pence has integrity, but he doesn't have the politics.

Trump is going to keep running. Republicans are incredibly hypocritical. During the last impeachment, one of their arguments against impeachment was that if he was guilty of something, charge him after he leaves office, not while he was serving the final weeks of his term. So, he is charged and they swarm against it anyway. Hypocrites and liars.

Hillary is not going to run again. What a farce of a concept. The only Clinton that could run is Chelsea and that's not going to happen. You may as well talk about Oprah or Michelle Obama, which are not going to run but have more of a chance than any Clinton.

I think Joe Biden is set up for a second term. Republicans are nuts for Trump, who can't win the election...he has proven that. Desantis is the FOX choice but he can't get any traction. None of the other Republicans are even close right now. Biden really hasn't done that bad, IMO. All the whining about gas prices and inflation was ridiculous distraction bullshit. He led us through the pandemic. He got us out of Afghanistan. He actually passed infrastructure...proving he can work bipartisan. He has done a LOT so far in the first term...some things that Republicans talked a lot about but show no action on. The only legitimate point Republicans have had against Biden is HOW we left Afghanistan. All the rest of it: inflation, gas prices, Hunter's laptop, etc., is all bullshit media hype.

I honestly don’t see republicans winning a major election until they tell Trump and his far right fringe supporters to fuck off and take a hike. Trump has become a toxic commodity so I think democrats could run literally anyone and still beat him and his wannabe twin politicians.

[Andrew]

And they need to stop pissing off the young voters with their 1950s/1850s policies.

[ebake02]

And they need to stop pissing off the young voters with their 1950s/1850s policies.

Exactly. They're catering to rednecks, religious nuts and senior citizens instead of the young people who now make up the largest portion of the voting public and what things to change for the better.

[RPM]

Exactly. They're catering to rednecks, religious nuts and senior citizens instead of the young people who now make up the largest portion of the voting public and what things to change for the better.[/quote]

Interesting. so you feel the correct group to cater to is young people ? They loved the old rich white guy Bernie Sanders.
Who exactly determines what is better? should we not allow people from the southern states, people of faith, and or over
a certain age to be heard?

[Andrew]

should we not allow people from the southern states, people of faith, and or over
a certain age to be heard?

Everyone is being heard, but conservatives aren't listening to the youth. Their 1950s lifestyle isn't reality any longer.

[RPM]

should we not allow people from the southern states, people of faith, and or over
a certain age to be heard?

Everyone is being heard, but conservatives aren't listening to the youth. Their 1950s lifestyle isn't reality any longer.

It sure isn't. in the 50's the homicide rate was 7.9% (per 100,000) in Chicago. today it is 0ver 20% .
Random violent crime has quadrupled. just yesterday "the youth" took over part of Michigan avenue
beating people in cars and looting stores.

https://nypost.com/2023/04/16/2-teens-s ... ond-night/

Is this who we really want to be listening to? do you feel young people truly know what's best ?