The ONE agonizing question that Steve Perry never answers...

[Tornado_Jackson]

http://www.fundrace.org/neighbors.php?type=name&lname=PERRY&fname=stephen&search=Search+by+Name

Neat find, Perrygirl.
So he's a fellow Kerry supporter, eh?
Maybe Perry isn't so bad of a guy, afterall.

Again, nice catch.

[Argus]

"perryfaithful
http://www.fundrace.org/neighbors.php?t ... ch+by+Name

Ah... "SONG WRITTER" do you think he wrote that too

[yak]

I guess you won't see Perry playing the Star Spangled Banner the way Neal & company do! I guess you won't see Perry doing anything but getting fat and sassy while he's hanging on to horny broads.

[atthistime]

Great post PF! That is very good news.

[stevefan]

Wow, in a matter of days it went from "why did Steve leave the band" to him contributing money.
First of all, I think the first question has been answered soooo many times before. IMO, he didn't actually leave, he was asked to leave. How many of you had taken a vacation or medical leave from work and then asked to leave? Not many I'm sure...Steve needed to take some time off for medical reasons..one that even he will tell you *and has in some interviews* that he didn't even know he had. The boys in the band couldn't handle it, or didn't want to to, whichever, and decided to move forward. That was their choice. Steve made his choice.
It seems everyone is doing a lot of talking, contemplating and deciding what happened. I'm no better, I have my opinions too, but the only one that can really answer that question is Steve himself, and he's too much of a gentleman to answer that..maybe what mamma told us when we were young "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all" is going through is mind..who knows.
OK...now for the money thing and that link. Interesting...BUT we do have to remember that there are other Steve Perry singers out there, the ones who come to mind right away are a black singer and one from a big band. So, we need to take that with a grain of salt. Also, I don't recall Steve ever calling himself Stephan...Stevie ("Line of Fire"), but never Stephan. (although his step-father called him that at one time)...so I don't beleive that's him.

Now I'll sit back and wait for my post to be torn apart by Monker! He's very good at that isn't he??

[perryfaithful]

That would be "stephen".....with an E. I think the address may be helpful? Whatever! Just some fun info from along the way. A little side trip.

[Tornado_Jackson]

First of all, I think the first question has been answered soooo many times before. IMO, he didn't actually leave, he was asked to leave. Steve needed to take some time off for medical reasons..one that even he will tell you *and has in some interviews* that he didn't even know he had. The boys in the band couldn't handle it, or didn't want to to, whichever, and decided to move forward. That was their choice. Steve made his choice.

But, it wasn't ONLY the hip thing. Steve had displayed a reluctance of singing with the band for years by then. He needed some time off and "to get off the merry go 'round" in 1986 and cut the very succesful ROR tour short. Neal respected that, but expected Perry's self imposed hiatus from Journey to last a few months or 2 to 3 years at most, he didn't expect the band to vanish for 10 loooooong years. Perry also refused to contribute new vocals onto the Time3 Journey Box Set and consequently, "With a Tear" and "Into your Arms" remain only as instrumentals (I kinda like them, that way). In 1993 Perry declined to go to the Herbie Herbert roast and Jon and Neal had to go get Kevin Chalfant to sing in his place and pass themselves off as "Journey". Perry also cut his solo tour short on the "For the Love of Strange Medicine Tour" (man, try saying that 5 times fast). So, here he cuts two tours short, refuses to add new vocals for the fans, won't pay admiration at a roast to the man who is undeniably in some way responsible for his success- the guy is habitually recalcitrant and unreliable. You can't just cut tours short. Do you know how much profit people lose and how it screws over the venues?

How many of you had taken a vacation or medical leave from work and then asked to leave? Not many I'm sure

Ok. Well, how many of you have taken time off from work, didn't come back for over a DECADE, and expected NOT to get fired? I mean, come on!
It wasn't just the hip thing, it was the accumulation of all his actions (or lack of them). Jon and Neal were serious about hitting the road, Steve was just stringing them along- In fact, when Perry got involved with Trial By Fire it is purported that the band was already re-grouping with Kevin Chalfant and Gregg Rolie (at least based on what Kevin says). Perry contributed vocals and songwriting talent to make a much publicized new album to prove to the world that he is Journey's frontman and no one else is and that's that. He re-claimed his mantle, refreshed the world's memory that he was the band's lead singer and then threw in the towel once again screwing over the guys. Making it even harder for the guys to replace him with Chalfant, Augeri etc.

The band was offered a couple high profile TV appearnces to play a song or two in promotion of TBF and Perry declined. He claims the camera would have seen his pain. I'm not so sure. I think he could've sat on a stool and sang. Kinda like a VH1 unplugged session. Even *IF* he did hurt himself (and that's a big IF) his prior actions clearly attest that he was not interested in singing for the Journey fans and being Journey's permanent frontman anymore.

So, was he kicked out?
Kinda. But you have to ask yourself, when a singer hasn't stepped foot onto a stage w/ his band in over 10 years, is there really anything to fire him from? They hadn't toured together in years. The band was dead. To many here, it still is. To select others, the Journey is alive and well.

[ClassicJrnyPlease]

Atthistime, what did you think of Distant Voice's comments? Believable? Not believable? Does she have anything? Does she not?

I believe Steve Perry cut his solo tour short because he was hooking up with Journey. Didn't this have something to do with pressure from the record company?

[stevefan]

You made some good points, Tonado..just adding my opinion to this age old question that seems to NEVER go away!

To answer yours, ClassicJrny.....he cut his solo tour short due to a bout of broncitis. It was reported on Entertainment Tonight and in an interview in Canada he does cough an awful lot..his voice seemed a little raw too. I have heard of some people who went to his last shows saying that, yeah, he seemed a little off.
And who knows if he had pressure from the record company, we weren't there. I think he said it himself once where he just got that feeling again, that need..so he made the first steps toward the guys.


waiting again for this to be ripped apart.

[perryfaithful]

waiting again for this to be ripped apart.

Man your paranoia is showing

[atthistime]

I am sure that DV has her own ideas about the history of Perry and Journey and it all depends on how much anyone has seen in concerts,videos and either read or seen the many interviews from the past. I have a good deal of video coverage and from the interviews, plus what I choose to believe from the BTM, I have drawn my own conclusions. I have no questions about the split. I feel that I understand Perrys actions. It's not that hard to understand. It all depends on your point of view.

[Distant Voice]

[I can shed some light on the (soap-opera era) between the band and Steve Perry...

Well, what the HELL are you waiting for??

Perry-unfaithful:

I don't come here on a daily basis so don't ever expect a quick answer from anything I say, however you need to get off the couch, stop eating pizza pockets, stop watching Regis, Oprah and ET, and "GET A LIFE"...most of you are missing out on the beauty of life itself by logging on here every three to four hours...

I have monitored many post in my 1-year here, and it's sad to see so many of you making this your life... I dare you to go out and smell a rose, take a deep look at it, and try and wonder how it flourished with no help other than itself and some water... don't make this a help center for the lonely, GO OUT AND LIVE LIFE !!!...

I log on for one purpose only, and thats to see how the name Journey has been treated, I have to say i'm not pleased with the way things have went over the past 6-7 years, but I can't help myself clearing-up any wrong-doing to the name Journey... I somehow can't let go of the legacy !

I'm not sure why you felt the need to pop in and say you could shed the light on something and then, instead of actually saying anything about the situation, you criticize people who are asking you to just do what you claimed you could do. I'm sorry, DV, but you have a pattern of doing this--and being quite condescending while you are doing it. You seem to just want everyone to believe you know something or have some inside info, but you never deliver. Anyone who is close enough to know anything that is not already public info about Perry/Journey and their split would not be posting it on the internet. You have zero credibility at this point.

"You have zero credibility at this point"...


I'm so glad you think so, but coming from a 3rd rate public defender I guess it makes no difference what you or anyone on this discussion board thinks of me.

I planned on having an adult conversation with you guys, but a few "Very Impatient" people had to shoot their mouths because they couldn't wait!...

GET A LIFE PEOPLE !!

[Distant Voice]

Talk about avoiding the real issue. This person must have less information than we do. There are sites where everyone would "ooh and ah" over such claims, but here you need some facts perhaps?? This "I am superior and have a life" smoke screen to avoid the subject is TOO FUNNY!!!! Did anyone else get lost in those 3 paragraphs of bullshit??

Ohhhhhhhh.....How I remember.............LMAO!! Indeed!

Perry UNfaithful?? Don't think so......He/She definitely knows BS when it presents itself.


Wait a minute! Who is the one who comes on these boards making up stories... POSTING AND RUNNING..... Then telling others to get a life? HA! Is this another "been there done that situation," DV, if you catch what I'm saying?

I for one do not believe you have anything!



As for people here hanging on to your every word........ with the exception of a couple of nut jobs who enjoy posting incendiary comments here, people are NOT posting 24--7, as you would like to imply. Maybe it's "YOU" who needs to get a Life.........

P.S. (are you having FUN?) :lol:

Go back to the backtalk board and share your stupid poems and ideas with someone who cares...

YOU SURE SOUND LIKE ANOTHER BACKTALKER...

[Distant Voice]

I guess you won't see Perry playing the Star Spangled Banner the way Neal & company do! I guess you won't see Perry doing anything but getting fat and sassy while he's hanging on to horny broads.

LMAO...

YOU GUYS TAKE THE CAKE...

[Distant Voice]

[I can shed some light on the (soap-opera era) between the band and Steve Perry...

Well, what the HELL are you waiting for??

Perry-unfaithful:

I don't come here on a daily basis so don't ever expect a quick answer from anything I say, however you need to get off the couch, stop eating pizza pockets, stop watching Regis, Oprah and ET, and "GET A LIFE"...most of you are missing out on the beauty of life itself by logging on here every three to four hours...

I have monitored many post in my 1-year here, and it's sad to see so many of you making this your life... I dare you to go out and smell a rose, take a deep look at it, and try and wonder how it flourished with no help other than itself and some water... don't make this a help center for the lonely, GO OUT AND LIVE LIFE !!!...

I log on for one purpose only, and thats to see how the name Journey has been treated, I have to say i'm not pleased with the way things have went over the past 6-7 years, but I can't help myself clearing-up any wrong-doing to the name Journey... I somehow can't let go of the legacy !

I'm not sure why you felt the need to pop in and say you could shed the light on something and then, instead of actually saying anything about the situation, you criticize people who are asking you to just do what you claimed you could do. I'm sorry, DV, but you have a pattern of doing this--and being quite condescending while you are doing it. You seem to just want everyone to believe you know something or have some inside info, but you never deliver. Anyone who is close enough to know anything that is not already public info about Perry/Journey and their split would not be posting it on the internet. You have zero credibility at this point.

"You have zero credibility at this point"...


I'm so glad you think so, but coming from a 3rd rate public defender I guess it makes no difference what you, or anyone on this discussion board thinks of me.

I planned on having some adult conversation with you guys, but a few "Very Impatient" people had to shoot their mouths because they couldn't wait!...

GET A LIFE PEOPLE !!

[Journeynut]

I can shed some light on the (soap-opera era) between the band and Steve Perry...

Still dark in here!

[Journeynut]

You made some good points, Tonado..just adding my opinion to this age old question that seems to NEVER go away!

To answer yours, ClassicJrny.....he cut his solo tour short due to a bout of broncitis. It was reported on Entertainment Tonight and in an interview in Canada he does cough an awful lot..his voice seemed a little raw too. I have heard of some people who went to his last shows saying that, yeah, he seemed a little off.
And who knows if he had pressure from the record company, we weren't there. I think he said it himself once where he just got that feeling again, that need..so he made the first steps toward the guys.


waiting again for this to be ripped apart.

There are lots of questions and answers at http://www.moyeslucasjr.homestead.com/Contact.html


From someone who was there on the FTLOSM tour: Moyes Lucas Jr.

1)How many concerts had to be cancelled at the end of the tour? What I have read is Steve had bronchitis and had to cancel a few. Others have posted he cancelled more than a few to drop FTLOSM to reunite with Journey. Is that true?



Answer From Moyes:

Yes that is true.



2)How sold out were these shows? Was there a big demand to see the FTLOSM band?



Answer From Moyes:

I think we sold out every show, if not it was close to every show. We could sell out a Venue the same day of the show and did in a lot of places because Sony didn’t do much to promote the tour.



3)Does the FTLOSM band hate Steve because he reunited with Journey? Did he leave the FTLOSM band unemployed to pursue big money of a Journey tour? (this is another accusation regularly made on the boards)



Answer From Moyes:

No to Both of those things. We understand the way artists are manipulated.

[perryfaithful]

[quote="Distant Voice"]

"I planned on having an adult conversation with you guys"


and we are so disappointed................NOT!

You can't take away what you NEVER had.

[stevefan]

Man your paranoia is showing

Nope, not paranoid..just realistic. I come here to join in on some adult discussions, to put in my 2 cents, but it seems like anytime anyone wants to do that, they get ripped to shreds, meaning what ever we say just isn't right or no one wants our opinions. Too bad too.
And for the record, Moyes has been very gracious and generous in all of the endless questions about Steve. He did say that the tour was cancelled because of broncitis...the reuinion with Journey happened AFTER he recovered and the members of Strange Med. moved on.

[PROPERRY]

Man your paranoia is showing

Nope, not paranoid..just realistic. I come here to join in on some adult discussions, to put in my 2 cents, but it seems like anytime anyone wants to do that, they get ripped to shreds, meaning what ever we say just isn't right or no one wants our opinions. Too bad too.
And for the record, Moyes has been very gracious and generous in all of the endless questions about Steve. He did say that the tour was cancelled because of broncitis...the reuinion with Journey happened AFTER he recovered and the members of Strange Med. moved on.

Yea, I'm in total agreement with you stevefan, Moyes has been VERY gracious to the all the fans asking questions about Steve Perry! And I do agree SOME here, do rip apart other fans opinions here on this board, it's why I don't post here very often.

I also understand what you were saying about the "medical Leave" and the "vacation time". When medical problems occur (such as Steve's Hip problem) it FORCES a person to have to deal with it, so Steve DID what he HAD to do for his OWN health & well being. There is certainly nothing wrong with that at all.

As for the other time period ( the ten years Journey was not performing), I tend to think from the interviews I read, where Steve talked about "burn out" that this band NEVER took ANYTIME OFF to get rest, or spend time with their famlies, or vacation etc.

It is understandable why Steve was "burned out" and why he NEEDED a LONG BREAK from all the touring & traveling on the road. Plus he had other major stresses to deal with too with his mother being very ill & dying at the same time.

This is NOT to say the other band members did not have stress too, such as I think a couple of them were having relationship problems, but people in general deal with there "life problems" in different ways.

Lori

[jrnyjetster]

I planned on having some adult conversation with you guys, but a few "Very Impatient" people had to shoot their mouths because they couldn't wait!...

What conversation??...you're constantly talking in circles! AND wait for WHAT? You haven't told us jack shit, up to this point!

[perryfaithful]

What conversation??...you're constantly talking in circles! AND wait for WHAT? You haven't told us jack shit, up to this point!

[Liz22562]

Just a tad bit off the topic but.....

I was reading through some of the questions to Moyes and one mentioned something about Steve Perry's daughter, Sham. Anyone know how old she is? Just curious.

I had no clue he had any kids. Awesome for him! You learn something new every day......

[perryfaithful]

Anyone know how old she is?

early thirties

[Liz22562]

Thank you PerryFaithful!

[ClassicJrnyPlease]

I have heard of some people who went to his last shows saying that, yeah, he seemed a little off.

First off, stevefan, I don't believe anything I hear on ET (usually a hyped up bunch of trash, and I don't watch), and second I don't think anything coming out of Canada means anything to me.

Now, for the truth..... FYI, I was AT one of those last concerts, and Steve was AMAZING, and didn't miss a note....or a beat.......It was one of the BEST concerts I've ever been to. He interacted with the audience and it wasn't just going through the motions; he CARED about his fans.

And who knows if he had pressure from the record company, we weren't there. I think he said it himself once where he just got that feeling again, that need..so he made the first steps toward the guys.

Sorry I didn't need to be there because I am pretty sure in some interview Steve said the record company let him do his FTLOSM record if he promised to go back and do another Journey album.

[ClassicJrnyPlease]

I planned on having an adult conversation with you guys, but a few "Very Impatient" people had to shoot their mouths because they couldn't wait!...

What kind of adult conversation did you have in mind? And how convenient that you come here and blame others for why you won't now be telling what you "know."

"You have zero credibility at this point"...

You have proven that you certainly do, and not only because of this time, but because of EVERY time.

...........but coming from a 3rd rate public defender............

Are you referring to yourself? :lol:

GET A LIFE PEOPLE !!

You really should.....

[PROPERRY]

First of all, I think the first question has been answered soooo many times before. IMO, he didn't actually leave, he was asked to leave. Steve needed to take some time off for medical reasons..one that even he will tell you *and has in some interviews* that he didn't even know he had. The boys in the band couldn't handle it, or didn't want to to, whichever, and decided to move forward. That was their choice. Steve made his choice.

But, it wasn't ONLY the hip thing. Steve had displayed a reluctance of singing with the band for years by then. He needed some time off and "to get off the merry go 'round" in 1986 and cut the very succesful ROR tour short. Neal respected that, but expected Perry's self imposed hiatus from Journey to last a few months or 2 to 3 years at most, he didn't expect the band to vanish for 10 loooooong years. Perry also refused to contribute new vocals onto the Time3 Journey Box Set and consequently, "With a Tear" and "Into your Arms" remain only as instrumentals (I kinda like them, that way). In 1993 Perry declined to go to the Herbie Herbert roast and Jon and Neal had to go get Kevin Chalfant to sing in his place and pass themselves off as "Journey". Perry also cut his solo tour short on the "For the Love of Strange Medicine Tour" (man, try saying that 5 times fast). So, here he cuts two tours short, refuses to add new vocals for the fans, won't pay admiration at a roast to the man who is undeniably in some way responsible for his success- the guy is habitually recalcitrant and unreliable. You can't just cut tours short. Do you know how much profit people lose and how it screws over the venues?

How many of you had taken a vacation or medical leave from work and then asked to leave? Not many I'm sure

Ok. Well, how many of you have taken time off from work, didn't come back for over a DECADE, and expected NOT to get fired? I mean, come on!
It wasn't just the hip thing, it was the accumulation of all his actions (or lack of them). Jon and Neal were serious about hitting the road, Steve was just stringing them along- In fact, when Perry got involved with Trial By Fire it is purported that the band was already re-grouping with Kevin Chalfant and Gregg Rolie (at least based on what Kevin says). Perry contributed vocals and songwriting talent to make a much publicized new album to prove to the world that he is Journey's frontman and no one else is and that's that. He re-claimed his mantle, refreshed the world's memory that he was the band's lead singer and then threw in the towel once again screwing over the guys. Making it even harder for the guys to replace him with Chalfant, Augeri etc.

The band was offered a couple high profile TV appearnces to play a song or two in promotion of TBF and Perry declined. He claims the camera would have seen his pain. I'm not so sure. I think he could've sat on a stool and sang. Kinda like a VH1 unplugged session. Even *IF* he did hurt himself (and that's a big IF) his prior actions clearly attest that he was not interested in singing for the Journey fans and being Journey's permanent frontman anymore.

So, was he kicked out?
Kinda. But you have to ask yourself, when a singer hasn't stepped foot onto a stage w/ his band in over 10 years, is there really anything to fire him from? They hadn't toured together in years. The band was dead. To many here, it still is. To select others, the Journey is alive and well.

TJ,

"OK. Well, how many of you have taken time off of work didn't come back for over a DECADE, expected not to get fired? I mean, come on!"


Well first of all TJ, IF being gone for 10 years was the problem as you said , then Neal & the band WOULD NOT have WAITED to fire Steve Perry well AFTER the "Trial By Fire" CD was made.

They would have done it way back when Steve FIRST told him he was "burnt out" and needed a break, so that little twist in the story telling does not work here for me. The rest of the band members went off & did their own thing too, during the 10 years of no Journey performing.

Lori





Let's t

[perryfaithful]

THEY did it right the first time.....and the world was excited when they all came back together!! NOT feeling the excitement right now....

[Abitaman]

Not feeling excited? Neither am I. Every so often I get a new Journey boot with either Perry or Augeri, that gets the heart pumping. Just opening something you don't have. MAYBE we all would feel some excitement if they released a NEW CD WITH NEW SONGS-beatin a dead horse ERIc
and before Perry fan replies, I am not talking about the group without Perry, as a dead horse. I talking about bring up the subject of new songs. Journey still rocks on with Augeri-ERIC