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Journey should have waited for Perry come hell or high water?

Journey should not have taken the chanch of alienating the Perry fans by getting a new frontman when Perry was ailing?
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Journey did the right thing by moving on without Perry?
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Postby heardonthestreet » Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:31 am

Maybe if Neal announced that a new song was going to be played and asked the people to stick around and give it a listen, that might help. He should maybe tell them that the new material would be played first and if they wanted to hear the old hits, they would have to sit and give a listen, kinda like adding a c.d. to the ticket price to get the music out there. They should be made to listen to the new material, one way or another.

Maybe if they had one untitled song and had a contest to get it named with the prize being a gold plated Neal Schon guitar pick, or...............the possibilities are endless. Hey! I still think "Possibilities" is a great name for their new c.d. :wink:
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Postby jrnyman28 » Tue Mar 15, 2005 8:00 am

heardonthestreet wrote:Maybe if Neal announced that a new song was going to be played and asked the people to stick around and give it a listen, that might help.


I certainly think it would be smart to intro a new song. That way, at least the audience would know why they don't recognize it, instead of spending the first half of the song going "Which one is this?"

heardonthestreet wrote: He should maybe tell them that the new material would be played first and if they wanted to hear the old hits, they would have to sit and give a listen, kinda like adding a c.d. to the ticket price to get the music out there. They should be made to listen to the new material, one way or another.


This may be a tongue-in-cheek remark from you, but it has it's merit. Play a couple "hits" and then break into a "new" set before finishing the night with all the hits. Some will say that disrupts the flow of the show. But I think people would "sit through" the new material to "get to the hits".
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Postby yak » Tue Mar 15, 2005 8:09 am

jrnyman28 wrote:
I forget, which version is "classic Journey"?
Is it the one with Perry, Neal, Gregg, Ross and Aynsley?
Is the one after Perry drove out Aynsley and Smitty came in?
Is the one after Perry drove Gregg away and Cain came in?
Is it the one after Perry fired Ross and Smitty?

There have been over 15 band members in Journey. All of which have influenced the path Journey has made.

There have been 7 different line-ups of Journey.

There has been one line-up to stay together longer than any other. That is the current line-up.

There has only been one continuous member of Journey. Journey is his band but he treats the other members equally.

Journey made it's name on the road. That is where it started and the hard work on the road continues to pay off.

Journey is.

And the Journey continues...


:D Jrnyman, Very well said.......A GREAT post.:D

Most especially, the last two lines.
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Postby heardonthestreet » Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:31 pm

At the risk of repeating myself from the first post on this thread, I'd say that Classic Journey is
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Classic Journey continues, as long as the Classic Journey cd's and dvd's come out and go platinum. The next dvd will fly off the counters like the first.

I still think that they have to warn the crowd when new material is coming up Dave, otherwise people will think that it's intermission.
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Postby jrnyman28 » Tue Mar 15, 2005 4:21 pm

heardonthestreet wrote:At the risk of repeating myself from the first post on this thread, I'd say that Classic Journey is
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Classic Journey continues, as long as the Classic Journey cd's and dvd's come out and go platinum. The next dvd will fly off the counters like the first.


Classic Journey CDs will NOT "come out".
I am not so sure there will be another classic Journey DVD.

heardonthestreet wrote:I still think that they have to warn the crowd when new material is coming up Dave, otherwise people will think that it's intermission.


"Warn" is not the term I would use...Introduce is a better word.
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Postby heardonthestreet » Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:49 am

Forewarned is forearmed. In this case, it gives you time to prepare for a potty break or a beer run. :)
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Postby Monker » Wed Mar 16, 2005 1:23 pm

heardonthestreet wrote:At the risk of repeating myself from the first post on this thread, I'd say that Classic Journey is
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Classic Journey continues, as long as the Classic Journey cd's and dvd's come out and go platinum. The next dvd will fly off the counters like the first.

I still think that they have to warn the crowd when new material is coming up Dave, otherwise people will think that it's intermission.


As far as I know there are no 'classic' Journey CDs in the works and the "next" DVD isn't even started, according to JDK, and according to Perry they turned down Sony's offer...so it looks like that's shelved too.

Seems to me that "classic Journey", by YOUR definition, has come to an end.
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Postby heardonthestreet » Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:46 pm

You guys are such kidders. O.K.,so you got a chuckle out of me. :lol: :lol:

Open Arms just played on the radio and I know that a lot of you don't care for the song but you're in the minority. VH1 has it at #1 on their 25 greatest Power Ballad list at this time. THAT IS CLASSIC JOURNEY.

We'll get the new dvd. It will be too much of a goldmine for the two parties not to settle on unless Sony is insisting that Perry perform with the band as a condition. Sony wouldn't be that mean.

The c.d.s that I was referring to were the ones that came out after the band left Perry behind, which have done so well. Someone on BackTalk posted that they had Essential cranked up all day, a while back.

Classic Journey is alive and kicking ass. The Tribute bands are showing just what era of Journey is the real deal.

THE STEVE PERRY YEARS! 8) :)
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:39 am

heardonthestreet wrote:You guys are such kidders. O.K.,so you got a chuckle out of me. :lol: :lol:

Open Arms just played on the radio and I know that a lot of you don't care for the song but you're in the minority. VH1 has it at #1 on their 25 greatest Power Ballad list at this time. THAT IS CLASSIC JOURNEY.

We'll get the new dvd. It will be too much of a goldmine for the two parties not to settle on unless Sony is insisting that Perry perform with the band as a condition. Sony wouldn't be that mean.

The c.d.s that I was referring to were the ones that came out after the band left Perry behind, which have done so well. Someone on BackTalk posted that they had Essential cranked up all day, a while back.

Classic Journey is alive and kicking ass. The Tribute bands are showing just what era of Journey is the real deal.

THE STEVE PERRY YEARS! 8) :)


Dude, Steve Augeri replaced Steve Perry in 1998 whether you like it or not. It's not our job to help you come to terms with reality.
Repeat after me, we are not a support group.

Yes, the classic songs are more popular than any of the current offerings, but what of it? What's your point exactly? Steve Perry isn't coming back regardless if the next dvd becomes plantinum or not. I guess I just don't get what you are arguing for. Perry is not waiting in the wings, primed and ready to reclaim the spotlight. He doesn't want to work.
Why must you insist on taking that out on Neal, Jon and Stevie A. ?

All of these Perry fans feel anger, perhaps rightfully so, but sadly they never take a moment to stop, and analyze what they're feeling and realize that their indigantion is misguided towards the current lineup.
Don't be mad at the band for moving on, be mad at Steve Perry for saying Sayonara to his legions of fans.
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Postby perryfaithful » Thu Mar 17, 2005 1:01 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Yes, the classic songs are more popular than any of the current offerings, but what of it? What's your point exactly? Steve Perry isn't coming back
All of these Perry fans feel anger, perhaps rightfully so,



The Classic songs are most popular than the current offerings! That is evey thing when you are defining what Journey really is! And who is "Angry" and waiting for Perry to come back to Journey? Not seeing that.....
"In Journey, all the hit songs we had were based around Steve Perry's vocals."

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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Mar 17, 2005 1:18 am

perryfaithful wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Yes, the classic songs are more popular than any of the current offerings, but what of it? What's your point exactly? Steve Perry isn't coming back
All of these Perry fans feel anger, perhaps rightfully so,


perryfaithful wrote: The Classic songs are most popular than the current offerings!


Is there an echo in here?

perryfaithful wrote:That is evey thing when you are defining what Journey really is!


I don't work for a book publishing corporation that puts out a new edition dictionary each year or so. "Definitions" are of very little consequence to me. Here's what counts though, I am a music fan and I listen to what I like. I still like Journey even without Steve Perry. Who really gives two shits about definitions or personal perceptions? How immature.

perryfaithful wrote: And who is "Angry" and waiting for Perry to come back to Journey? Not seeing that.....


Then why are you here?
You are here because the idea of a band in existance using the name Journey WITHOUT Steve Perry in it drives you up the walls!
You know it, I know it, everyone here knows it, too.
I didn't just fall off the turn up truck, lady.

If you are here for any other purpose than to bash the current lineup, then how come you never contribute any Journey-related threads of your own? Hmmmmm?
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Postby perryfaithful » Thu Mar 17, 2005 4:14 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
You are here because the.....



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No need to speak for me! As usual, you are very disrespectful

The board name is Journey. seems to me that includes many years, not
just the last few with current line up! I will celebrate any portion of those years I wish....it still is Journey
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Mar 17, 2005 5:59 am

perryfaithful wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
You are here because the.....



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No need to speak for me! As usual, you are very disrespectful

The board name is Journey. seems to me that includes many years, not the last few with current line up! I will celebrate any portion of those years I wish....it still is Journey


Celebrating? Pfft.
All you do is come out of the shadows and jump on the "lets-bash-the current lineup" bandwagon when your friends need backup.

If you are here to celebrate, how come you never create any topics of your own about anything Journey related?

The only thing you're celebrating are the tactics of hatred.
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Postby perryfaithful » Thu Mar 17, 2005 6:22 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:]

The only thing you're celebrating are the tactics of hatred.


I don't "hate" the current line up...not a word I use. Never have. As usual you are trying to portray me as someone I am not, perhaps to have someone to argue with? Gets kind of boring here somedays other wise huh??

....and I am not "bashing" the current line up by saying it is not my favorite period of Journey. Simple as that and my right to say! I actually consider BASHING being more of what you did with your thread asking if Augeri was the best choice for Journey! thought you were coming out of the closet with that one! LOL

Oh no need to answer! I am going back to scroll by
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Mar 17, 2005 8:22 am

perryfaithful wrote: I actually consider BASHING being more of what you did with your thread asking if Augeri was the best choice for Journey! [/color]


Yep.
God forbid we actually discuss something other than "the steve perry years" vs "the steve augeri years" on this board.

Tell ya what, you can criticize my posts after you actually make one of your own that has some subtsance to it and doesn't go something along the borderline retarded lines of "excellent points!" or "I agree!".

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby jrnyman28 » Thu Mar 17, 2005 9:49 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Tell ya what, you can criticize my posts after you actually make one of your own that has some subtsance to it and doesn't go something along the borderline retarded lines of "excellent points!" or "I agree!".

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


Funny thing, I belong to another board that actually does not allow posts of less than 20 characters. This is to avoid "Me too" and "I agree" posts. And they even go so far as to not allow garbage characters to count.
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Postby heardonthestreet » Thu Mar 17, 2005 3:49 pm

IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MUSIC

......and the music, so far, is ALL CLASSIC JOURNEY. It's what the people want to hear. It's the STEVE PERRY YEARS! The goings on that happenned within Journey were no different from what goes on with all rock bands. It's probably what made the music so great. Crying like babies about who got fired or who took control has nothing to do with the end result and the end result is the music everyone loves. CLASSIC JOURNEY
When a band changes their frontman and can't replace him with someone better or as good and the music is no longer of quality, then you have something to complain about. IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MUSIC

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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Mar 17, 2005 4:11 pm

heardonthestreet wrote:IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MUSIC

......and the music, so far, is ALL CLASSIC JOURNEY. It's what the people want to hear. It's the STEVE PERRY YEARS! The goings on that happenned within Journey were no different from what goes on with all rock bands. It's probably what made the music so great. Crying like babies about who got fired or who took control has nothing to do with the end result and the end result is the music everyone loves. CLASSIC JOURNEY
When a band changes their frontman and can't replace him with someone better or as good and the music is no longer of quality, then you have something to complain about. IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MUSIC

IMO


This post is garbage. Fuck, it's barely even coherent.
In the length of a paragraph you convey one sentence, one idea; that you don't like the current lineup.
We know that already, dude.
Got any other tricks up your sleeve?


The facts remains that Steve Augeri replaced Steve Perry in 1998 and no amount of bitching can change that.


You know... I prefer the DLR years to Van Hagar, but you don't see me spending my time bitching about it on the VH board trying to piss Hagar fans off.
What motivates you people?
GET A FUCKING LIFE!
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Postby PROPERRY » Thu Mar 17, 2005 5:13 pm

heardonthestreet wrote:IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MUSIC

......and the music, so far, is ALL CLASSIC JOURNEY. It's what the people want to hear. It's the STEVE PERRY YEARS! The goings on that happenned within Journey were no different from what goes on with all rock bands. It's probably what made the music so great. Crying like babies about who got fired or who took control has nothing to do with the end result and the end result is the music everyone loves. CLASSIC JOURNEY
When a band changes their frontman and can't replace him with someone better or as good and the music is no longer of quality, then you have something to complain about. IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MUSIC

IMO








I totally understand you HOTS!!! It is definitley ALL ABOUT THE MUSIC, THE STEVE PERRY YEARS!!! :D

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Postby Kuroneko1 » Thu Mar 17, 2005 6:30 pm

I do not think there is anything called "classic Journey". Just like the band's name points, it is a musical Journey... When band started, Perry was no where. He came, he left and journey continues... Members come and go time to time and only special bands survive and continue to make music. Sure Perry was an important part of this band but Journey SURVIVED his departure and continues to deliver excellent music and shows...
For me there is no "classic journey". Instead, there is a band called Journey who can be called as a "all time rock classic"

Like it or not, Journey continues...
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Postby heardonthestreet » Fri Mar 18, 2005 2:26 am

Oh heck! Did I hit a nerve again NC?

I respect your opinion Kuro, but Classic Journey does exist and it's called the Steve Perry Years.

Yes the Journey continues but the train is off track, the boat is off course, the plane has lost it's radar, the camels hump has dried up,the bus is out of gas and the canoe is floating downstream without a paddle. Excuse the pun but do you get my drift? IMO, of coarse.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Mar 18, 2005 2:43 am

heardonthestreet wrote:Yes the Journey continues but the train is off track, the boat is off course, the plane has lost it's radar, the camels hump has dried up,the bus is out of gas and the canoe is floating downstream without a paddle. Excuse the pun but do you get my drift?



No actually, I don't get your drift or your unfunny puns. Sorry. The Journey train was derailed after Perry called it quits in 1986 and it remained stalled in the station for 12 years. If anything, the band is finally back on track, with a singer that wants to work and being a band that actually plays music.
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Postby heardonthestreet » Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:04 am

Happy St. Patricks Day everyone!
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Postby Rockindeano » Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:17 am

Ok, fuck this. I am now TOTALLY against all you "Journey Haters." All of you bitter "Pro Steve perry" bitches shut the Hell up. All you do is bring negatism to the table. Go drool at some Departure poster of your fabled Portugese god, and leave the REAL MUSICIANS alone so they may actually make music, rather than feel sorry for himself. I hope Neal Schon is walking down a street, and meets that stupidassed Perry and knocks his dick in the dirt. Why? Because Perry fucked up a great band, ALL BY HIMSELF, and now he runs away and hides like the little pussy he is. I hope he NEVER sets foot on a Journey stage again.

I am serious, all you Perry bitches can kiss my ass.

To everyone else, let's just ignore these pigs and talk about the CURRENT music and the CURRENT band, rather than memories. I will be the first to sign on, saying I will never respond to these stupid bitches ever again. F U!!!
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Postby ohsherrie » Fri Mar 18, 2005 4:26 am

heardonthestreet wrote:Yes the Journey continues but the train is off track, the boat is off course, the plane has lost it's radar, the camels hump has dried up,the bus is out of gas and the canoe is floating downstream without a paddle. Excuse the pun but do you get my drift? IMO, of coarse.



:lol: Very well said HOTS :lol:

Isn't it amazing that so many posters here seem to feel that our being here to support Steve Perry's Journey years somehow threatens the validity of the current band? I mean, they must feel that way or they wouldn't go on the attack when we express our preference for the Perry years.
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Postby perryfaithful » Fri Mar 18, 2005 4:51 am

ohsherrie wrote:
Isn't it amazing that so many posters here seem to feel that our being here to support Steve Perry's Journey years somehow threatens the validity of the current band?


:D So very interesting huh ohsher? LOL The need to spaz out at the name perry certainly makes me question whether or not "some" are really all that confident in their "supposed" love of the new line up!
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Postby heardonthestreet » Fri Mar 18, 2005 4:57 am

Attack is right Ohsher. Some of their wives or girlfriends must be battered since they seem to have such a short wick. Serve them feminine logic and they resort to foul language and personal attacks. It's just the safety NET that gives them courage tho, as they wouldn't have the nerve face to face.(Damn, that was another pun, ya think?)
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Postby ohsherrie » Fri Mar 18, 2005 5:41 am

heardonthestreet wrote:Attack is right Ohsher. Some of their wives or girlfriends must be battered since they seem to have such a short wick. Serve them feminine logic and they resort to foul language and personal attacks. It's just the safety NET that gives them courage tho, as they wouldn't have the nerve face to face.(Damn, that was another pun, ya think?)


"short wick." :lol:

Ya know HOTS, you just may have something there. :wink:


Perryfaithful wrote:So very interesting huh ohsher? LOL The need to spaz out at the name perry certainly makes me question whether or not "some" are really all that confident in their "supposed" love of the new line up!


Yeah, it sort of makes you wonder if they're harboring a deep resentment of Steve for not being in the band and are subconsciously trying to punish him by claiming to love the band just as much without him. :? :lol:
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:29 am

heardonthestreet wrote: It's just the safety NET that gives them courage tho, as they wouldn't have the nerve face to face.


I can honestly say that I conduct myself the same in the real world as I do here in the cyber world. Just because YOU resort to using an anonymous sn & a web browser to do your dirty work (while actually going about daily life in the real world as a cowering, reticent, take-orders, pussy-faggot) does NOT mean we all do the same. Thank you.
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Postby heardonthestreet » Fri Mar 18, 2005 8:28 am

Now I get it N.C. You're getting a thrill out of all this. Gives you an excuse to talk dirty to women. :shock:
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