Perry rumor

[perryfaithful]

[quote="The_Noble_Cause"]

Perhaps this quote might clear things up....


Your source please? ....and it is not that I do not believe you, it is APPROPRIATE & CONSIDERATE to list ones source on a quote

Thank You

[jrnyman28]

Neal just wants Perry to indorse this mess they now call Journey. I say, forget it.

Now who's 'full of it'?? That is ridiculous.
Neal hasn't cared for 7 years what Perry has thought of Journey. Why should he now? Especially with all the recognition Journey is getting withOUT Perry!

[jrnyman28]

but I never heard it put exactly this way before "sharing vocal duties" I cant believe Perry would ever go for that. I can't believe Neal would think that Perry would. Interesting that he is still asking.[/color]

Well, we already know that Perry is not going for that. He has pretty much declined the invitaion. I think Neal continued to ask because A) Maybe Perry would change his mind (although doubtful); and B) Just to show that Neal holds no animosity towards Perry.

It is probably the best Neal has ever 'performed' with PR, we all know he has a bad track record in that department. Neal, although the only original member of Journey and the leader of the band, should not be the spokesperson for Journey. I think Jonshould. I also think Steve could, but Jon is a more likely choice because of all the years with the band. Hell, Jon was announced as a founding member of Journey on the biker build-off!

[jrnyman28]

Don't worry they'll always play Open Arms. Now THAT"S BORING!

BRAVO!!
I am so with you on that call. Open Arms NEEDS to be retired!! But the casual fans spoke...On the Arrival Tour Open Arms was hardly played. I didn't miss it in the least. But fans were leaving and saying "I can't believe they didn't play Open Arms!" Understandable, but I know that a lot of fans are tired of that song. There have even been discussions about Open Arms vs. Faithfully, and I believe Faithfully always wins. Keep Faithfully, jettison Open Arms.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Perhaps this quote might clear things up....

Your source please? ....and it is not that I do not believe you, it is APPROPRIATE & CONSIDERATE to list ones source on a quote

Thank You

Gladly.

Here you go.

It is a great read.
He mentions what the next Journey album will be called among other things.

http://www.annecarlini.com/ex_interviews.php?id=347

[jrnyman28]

Thank you for the link NC. Good interview. I really liked this part:

Q: But haven’t the ruling’s changed on being able to do that now due to Prince ruining it for everybody?!

A: ”No, they actually didn’t. They changed a few of the laws around and they changed it that if you want to appear in Billboard Magazine and you want to chart then you have to give them half your money. So management asked me if I wanted to chart and I said ‘I don’t give a f**k about charting!’ I haven’t looked at Billboard Magazine since probably I was in my twenties,” he laughs. ”So at the point we go Gold and then Platinum, because we are gonna play for that many people this year, we’ll come out with our own magazine and invite the industry to our party,” he laughs.


Now we know the answer to whether the CDs count...

[perryfaithful]

[quote="jrnyman28"]Thank you for the link NC. Good interview. I really liked this part:

You Never Know

[perryfaithful]

[quote="jrnyman28"]Thank you for the link NC. Good interview. I really liked this part:



ah...the picture of Classic Journey was a hit also

[yak]

Thank you Noble_Cause!

When will there be a new Journey album?

”Our CD is going to be recorded this next month here in California. We actually start rehearsals today and we’re gonna rehearse for about seven or eight days, learn all the new material that we’ve written, and then get them down to where we can walk into the studio and play live like we used to.”

Works for me..............

[low d]

don't see why this is a big deal.

Kalodner has been saying for years now that Journey would take Perry on for a tour, a cd or anything. Even Augeri stated that if Perry ever expressed an interest in returning to the band, he would very altruistically vacate his job of a lifetime and give it to Perry.

Taking us right back to the point that it is Perry, himself, who does not want to be a part of this band

I did not say it was a big deal. In fact. I posted it under a thread titled Perry rumor, because I do not know who this guy is who wrote this article or what his source is...but I never heard it put exactly this way before "sharing vocal duties" I cant believe Perry would ever go for that. I can't believe Neal would think that Perry would. Interesting that he is still asking.

According to Herbie, when they rehearsed before the TBF tour, They had to tune down 2 steps. Perry no longer has the range. Not a slam, just a fact of life for every man at some point.

I think that Perry, if he were to return to the stage (which he would have no incentive since he gets a cut of whatever the new band does and doesn't have to work), he would sing the slower, lower key stuff, otherwise Augeri would blow him right off of the stage. OR, Perry could play nice and let the Augeri sing the hard parts for him backstage, Ala Elvis, David Coverdale, etc, etc.

[perryfaithful]

I think that Perry, if he were to return to the stage (which he would have no incentive since he gets a cut of whatever the new band does and doesn't have to work)

You are assuming that Money is the only incentive????

[Kuroneko1]

Pardon me for saying but If usama bin laden were reading this forum, he would have blushed crimson red and shake with jeaolusy. Then he would have probably kidnapped Perry and ask for his secret of having admirers who have that blind, fanatical and over the edge devotion to him.
After all those years, it is incredible to see people who are unable to accept that Perry is not part of Journey anymore and show so much anger and fury to the band because their singer departed. Ladies and gentlemen... Stop badmouthing Journey and Schon... Perry was not fired, he left the band. It was his decision to go solo (or retire) . If you hate journey so much, why dont you leave them alone? It was not only Perry but whole Journey, working as a team gave your all time favourite songs... Dreaming desperately about journey failing to sell albums or filling venues and finally disbanding must be a hell of a waste of time. Im sure there are better things in life to do.
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[low d]

I think that Perry, if he were to return to the stage (which he would have no incentive since he gets a cut of whatever the new band does and doesn't have to work)

You are assuming that Money is the only incentive????

According to Herbie, Perry has always been about control, ego and money. Why else would the band be signed to a gag order, why else would Perry have total control over the VH-1 Behind the scenes thing, why else would he still be making money, getting 1/6th just like a member? If it were not about the money, Perry would have really walked away from it like he says he did.

Like I said, you didn't include in your quote, Perry doesn't have the range any longer they say. He may be practicing up, he may not, who knows? Who cares? To me there is nothing worse than seeing a band that I gre up with, not knowing when to quit, becoming a parody of itself. I think that Journey is there, unless they shift gears and groove into something else.

[perryfaithful]

why else would Perry have total control over the VH-1 Behind the scenes thing

This "herbism" has never been proven, infact I remember an exec from VH1 posting at the old Journey VH1 site that this idea of Perry control over the program was FALSE!

[perryfaithful]

To me there is nothing worse than seeing a band that I gre up with, not knowing when to quit, becoming a parody of itself.

Gotta agree with you on that one!!!

[Rockindeano]

To me there is nothing worse than seeing a band that I gre up with, not knowing when to quit, becoming a parody of itself.

Gotta agree with you on that one!!!

Then don't watch anymore. Not knowing when to quit? Uh, they still tour quite successfully, do a Hell of a lot more business than Perry does, so if you don't like the current band, go the fuck away. Jesus Christ, you people are so sad.

[low d]

To me there is nothing worse than seeing a band that I gre up with, not knowing when to quit, becoming a parody of itself.

Gotta agree with you on that one!!!

Then don't watch anymore. Not knowing when to quit? Uh, they still tour quite successfully, do a Hell of a lot more business than Perry does, so if you don't like the current band, go the fuck away. Jesus Christ, you people are so sad.

No. You missed the point. I like the newer incarnation. I want it to evolve, so Jouney can get beyond being a live juke box for all of the old farts to sing along with, remembering the good old days. It is a young boys game out there. They need to stay ahead of the old-fart Styx, REO, Survivor spiral and be a band living in the now.

My point that for Perry to come back would be a huge step back. If Perry can't sing, don't ruin a good memory. If the boys don't get along, don't manufacture a moment if it is a fraud. No good music will come from that. If you went to a VH show this last year you will get what I am saying.

[low d]

To me there is nothing worse than seeing a band that I gre up with, not knowing when to quit, becoming a parody of itself.

Gotta agree with you on that one!!!

Then don't watch anymore. Not knowing when to quit? Uh, they still tour quite successfully, do a Hell of a lot more business than Perry does, so if you don't like the current band, go the fuck away. Jesus Christ, you people are so sad.

I think Steve actually has more money than the rest. He isn't working, because he doesn't have to. The rest of the band needs the money. Do you see Steve doing anything that he doesn't want to do? Nope. Meanwhile the boys are shleppin' gear, playing shows, and Steve STILL makes money. Smart guy.

[perryfaithful]

Smart guy.

......and ROCKIN!! when are you going back to work man? You are starting to make look NC and YAK look like little choirboys! You need a change of scenery

[The_Noble_Cause]

I like the newer incarnation. I want it to evolve, so Jouney can get beyond being a live juke box for all of the old farts to sing along with, remembering the good old days. It is a young boys game out there. They need to stay ahead of the old-fart Styx, REO, Survivor spiral and be a band living in the now.

But how do they do this? As Jon Cain said, there is a certain perception out there that they need to break free from. I think the best way to evolve is to have the new material reach the masses and giving the cds out this summer ala Prince is the best way to do just that, I think. It's hard to stay a chart topper when you have been gone from the road for so many years (not too mention losing your former lead vocalist). Even rock bands that never took a decade off and release new material yearly find themselvesl striving to remain relevant these days (i.e. Aerosmith). The TBF reunion brought the band great success. I won't deny that. However, the option of a Perry-reunion simply is not a realistic one. As of now, it's not going to happen. So how do you suggest then, that Journey stays ahead of, as you so aptly put it, the "old-fart Styx, REO, Survivor spiral"?
IMO, telling Journey to hang it up and call it a day is not a strategy for success.
Don't want an argument here. Would love to hear some great thoughts on this topic.

[low d]

I like the newer incarnation. I want it to evolve, so Jouney can get beyond being a live juke box for all of the old farts to sing along with, remembering the good old days. It is a young boys game out there. They need to stay ahead of the old-fart Styx, REO, Survivor spiral and be a band living in the now.

But how do they do this? As Jon Cain said, there is a certain perception out there that they need to break free from. I think the best way to evolve is to have the new material reach the masses and giving the cds out this summer ala Prince is the best way to do just that, I think. It's hard to stay a chart topper when you have been gone from the road for so many years (not too mention losing your former lead vocalist). Even rock bands that never took a decade off and release new material yearly find themselvesl striving to remain relevant these days (i.e. Aerosmith). The TBF reunion brought the band great success. I won't deny that. However, the option of a Perry-reunion simply is not a realistic one. As of now, it's not going to happen. So how do you suggest then, that Journey stays ahead of, as you so aptly put it, the "old-fart Styx, REO, Survivor spiral"?
IMO, telling Journey to hang it up and call it a day is not a strategy for success.
Don't want an argument here. Would love to hear some great thoughts on this topic.

If anyone had the answer to this one, they would be filthy rich. Obviously the youth can smell old people a mile a way. Obviously old people do not like the Lost Generation's music. I think that they should evolve musically to cater to the biggest buying segment, those 35-50. Those people have other expenses in life, and cannot afford big ticket concerts. They are usually making good money but are financed out the pooter. A delivery mediem has to be marketed to them, for them, in a way that goes around radio, payola, etc. Man if I had the answer, my band's CD which features John Schlitt (Head East and Petra) would be selling.

[jrnyman28]

why else would Perry have total control over the VH-1 Behind the scenes thing

This "herbism" has never been proven, infact I remember an exec from VH1 posting at the old Journey VH1 site that this idea of Perry control over the program was FALSE!

I also remember someone posting that they saw Perry at the studios all the time during the editting of the show. Sadly, I do not remember "who" said this.

[jrnyman28]

To me there is nothing worse than seeing a band that I gre up with, not knowing when to quit, becoming a parody of itself.

Gotta agree with you on that one!!!

You forgot the rest where low d says "unless they shift gears and groove into something else."

I hope that is what is happening with the new CD. It certainly sounds like there will be a different vibe on it.

[jrnyman28]

I think Steve actually has more money than the rest. He isn't working, because he doesn't have to.

That may be true.

The rest of the band needs the money.

I don't believe that is true. I think they are touring because they WANT to. Maybe they want MORE money...but I don't think it is because they NEED it. I still think it has to do with playing because they love it. I especially think that is obvious with Neal...the man NEVER stops!

Do you see Steve doing anything that he doesn't want to do? Nope.

And by the same token, you can't say the rest of the guys are.

Meanwhile the boys are shleppin' gear, playing shows, and Steve STILL makes money. Smart guy.

It is true that Perry is very smart. He had Neal and Jon by the balls and he squeezed.

[perryfaithful]

To me there is nothing worse than seeing a band that I gre up with, not knowing when to quit, becoming a parody of itself.

You forgot the rest where low d says "unless they shift gears and groove into something else."

No Dave, the line that I quoted stands by itself. We all have our own idea how to finish the sentence...the "unless".....but the part he dislikes, that I dislike stays the same, no matter what they do in the future. The "parody" is NOW. Can they get out? Aren't we still waiting to see?

[Hippie]

According to Herbie, when they rehearsed before the TBF tour, They had to tune down 2 steps. Perry no longer has the range. Not a slam, just a fact of life for every man at some point.

This is dead on acurate. On Perry's FTLOSM Tour, the Journey songs were nearly all tuned down 2 steps. People trash Augeri for not having Perry's voice and fail to realize Perry doesn't have Perry's voice anymore either. It's sad, but it happens sometimes.