Classic Journey

by **jrnyman28** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 1:16 pm

I think Deano may have been referring to me since I posted that he was over the line. He probably just confused me with Fred since the two of us used to post a lot together on VH1. I could be wrong but that is my guess.

Hey Deano, who were you talking to?

by **Rockindeano** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:00 am

I was talking about NC and Jrnyman......for what it's worth. This thread is so F*cking stupid...cogratulations HOTS on this thread. Can we move on? I made my point, and the perryfanatics embarrassed themselves yet again.

by **perryfaithful** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 5:26 am

Rock'ndeano wrote:I was talking about NC and Jrnyman

by **perryfaithful** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 12:05 am

MY......getting close to 4000 hits on CLASSIC JOURNEY! Nothing (recently) close.....

by **ohsherrie** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 2:36 am

perryfaithful wrote:
Rock'ndeano wrote:I was talking about NC and Jrnyman

Yeah, and I've got this 14th century stone bridge over some ocean frontage in Arizona to sell.

by **The_Noble_Cause** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:05 am

ohsherrie wrote:
perryfaithful wrote:
Rock'ndeano wrote:I was talking about NC and Jrnyman

Yeah, and I've got this 14th century stone bridge over some ocean frontage in Arizona to sell.

What's so hard to believe that RockN'Deano accidentally referred to Dave as Fred? I'm sorry, but what am I missing here? The guy slipped up, it happens. Why must everything be a big conspiracy with you crazed girlies? First, you insist that me and Yak are the same person and now, apparently according to you all, RockN'Deano is allegedly enacting some grand master scheme to take over the universe.
Get a life.
Oh, for the sweet love of Jesus.
Get a life.

by **PROPERRY** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:39 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
ohsherrie wrote:
perryfaithful wrote:
Rock'ndeano wrote:I was talking about NC and Jrnyman

Yeah, and I've got this 14th century stone bridge over some ocean frontage in Arizona to sell.

What's so hard to believe that RockN'Deano accidentally referred to Dave as Fred? I'm sorry, but what am I missing here? The guy slipped up, it happens. Why must everything be a big conspiracy with you crazed girlies? First, you insist that me and Yak are the same person and now, apparently according to you all, RockN'Deano is allegedly enacting some grand master scheme to take over the universe.
Get a life.

Oh, for the sweet love of Jesus.
Get a life.

Well Deano, sure does have a habit of making a lot of slip ups! :lol:

Lori

by **Rockindeano** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 5:42 am

PROPERRY wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
ohsherrie wrote:
perryfaithful wrote:
Rock'ndeano wrote:I was talking about NC and Jrnyman

Yeah, and I've got this 14th century stone bridge over some ocean frontage in Arizona to sell.

What's so hard to believe that RockN'Deano accidentally referred to Dave as Fred? I'm sorry, but what am I missing here? The guy slipped up, it happens. Why must everything be a big conspiracy with you crazed girlies? First, you insist that me and Yak are the same person and now, apparently according to you all, RockN'Deano is allegedly enacting some grand master scheme to take over the universe.
Get a life.

Oh, for the sweet love of Jesus.
Get a life.

Well Deano, sure does have a habit of making a lot of slip ups!

Lori

Yeah, ok Lori, whatever you say. You are not even worth speaking to/about.
I don't lie awake and dream of the Journey board, or for that matter write down all the names and keep them on the wall in the "war room." On e thing is certain...I will NEVER ever confuse you babbling bitches...

You need to get a life Lori.

And about the fact I got a couple of people mixed up? I know of Yak, Jrnyman28 and Noble Cause, as well as HOTS, Perryfaithful and unfortunately, LORI....Argh, Lori.

by **heardonthestreet** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:05 am

HAPPY EASTER and long live Classic Journey, The Steve Perry Years.

From Hots and Att. :wink:

by **RubyTequila** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 9:49 am

Happy Easter!! And long live Journey...The Schon Years!

by **jrnyman28** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:33 am

RubyTequila wrote:Happy Easter!! And long live Journey...The Schon Years!

by **Metal Ed** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:36 pm

Many "old school" Journey fans have not even seen or listened to the"new" Journey. In Dec of 98, I saw Journey for the first time. In the lobby there was a sign above the merch table saying".....Steve Perry is not performing with the band....". I saw a gentleman rip up his ticket and walk out.

Journey has always had personal changes. Saying they are not Journey w/o Perry is like saying The Steelers are not the steelers wo/ Terry Bradshaw. Journey is still Journey.

Metal Ed

by **The_Noble_Cause** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 3:03 pm

Metal Ed wrote:In Dec of 98, I saw Journey for the first time. In the lobby there was a sign above the merch table saying".....Steve Perry is not performing with the band....". I saw a gentleman rip up his ticket and walk out.

His loss. One of the posters on this forum was so kind to email me a few mp3s from Augeri's first ever show. I know JrnyDave always talks about how Augeri has improved over the past few years, but to be honest, these MP3's are the best I have ever heard Augeri sing. Usually I don't agree when people say Augeri is better than Perry, but after hearing these mp3s I am a believer. Fantastic voice.

by **Victim Of My Own Design** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 6:49 pm

Augeri has a great voice no question but he doesn't come close to Perry and thats a fact. Although Augeri is great in the studio when I saw them in concert last year he struggled a bit on occasion and Deen is singing quite a few songs too.

by **jrnyman28** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 4:54 am

Victim Of My Own Design wrote:Augeri has a great voice no question but he doesn't come close to Perry and thats a fact.

Well, to be honest...It's an OPINION! But it is a valid opinion that Perry in his day was better than Steve. However, I think it is also a pretty valid opinion that when it comes to touring and singing Journey songs today, Steve is better than Perry.

by **PROPERRY** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 6:37 am

jrnyman28 wrote:
Victim Of My Own Design wrote:Augeri has a great voice no question but he doesn't come close to Perry and thats a fact.

Well, to be honest...It's an OPINION! But it is a valid opinion that Perry in his day was better than Steve. However, I think it is also a pretty valid opinion that when it comes to touring and singing Journey songs today, Steve is better than Perry.

It is "my opinion" that Steve Perry is absolutely a better singer & performer than Augeri!

The fact is that Augeri has been singing the SAME songs for the past 7 years that Perry, Schon & Cain wrote, so I don't agree that Augeri is touring better than Perry!!!

And I think this fact says it all, The Essential Journey Cd went from "gold to platuim" in ONE DAY! That happened some time after Perry attended the WOF!!!!

The amazing thing is that Perry has NOT been touring or singing for the past 7 years, and Perry still has the ability "to out do" Augeri who has been singing & touring for 7 years with Journey!!!

Lori

by **jrnyman28** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 9:52 am

PROPERRY wrote:It is "my opinion" that Steve Perry is absolutely a better singer & performer than Augeri!

Nothing wrong with that. However, to say "IS" a better singer and performer is difficult to back up since there is NO evidence of that fact today.

PROPERRY wrote:The fact is that Augeri has been singing the SAME songs for the past 7 years that Perry, Schon & Cain wrote, so I don't agree that Augeri is touring better than Perry!!!

This is funny. The fact that Steve has been touring for the past 7 years IS the reason why I can say that Steve is touring better than Perry. Perry is NOT touring. Perry did not complete his tour for FTLOSM. Perry did not complete the ROR tour.

PROPERRY wrote:And I think this fact says it all, The Essential Journey Cd went from "gold to platuim" in ONE DAY! That happened some time after Perry attended the WOF!!!!

That was the day of the certification of gold and platinum. Essential Journey had not been certified up to that point. Someone has to pay for the RIAA to investigate and certify the sales of an album. If you had read EITHER of the threads posted about EJ certification you would have known this. Furthermore, because EJ is a 2-disc set, it only had to sell 500,000 copies to go platinum.

PROPERRY wrote:The amazing thing is that Perry has NOT been touring or singing for the past 7 years, and Perry still has the ability "to out do" Augeri who has been singing & touring for 7 years with Journey!!!
Lori

Tell me how. How has Perry "outdone" Journey in the past 7 years? Because the GH DVD went "platinum"? Even because EJ went "platinum"? I don't know if it is a great thing to know that more people wish to reminisce, then those who want to discover new material. But that is true...our generation is (mostly) stuck in the past. Look at the re-issues, re-releases, compilations, tour packages featuring artists and music from the 80's. Even stuff that was not "great" in the 80's is doing well now, because the consumer wants to re-live their youth.

BTW, nice to see you Lori. it gives me something to discuss.

by **The_Noble_Cause** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:01 am

jrnyman28 wrote:
PROPERRY wrote:It is "my opinion" that Steve Perry is absolutely a better singer & performer than Augeri!

Nothing wrong with that. However, to say "IS" a better singer and performer is difficult to back up since there is NO evidence of that fact today.

PROPERRY wrote:The fact is that Augeri has been singing the SAME songs for the past 7 years that Perry, Schon & Cain wrote, so I don't agree that Augeri is touring better than Perry!!!

This is funny. The fact that Steve has been touring for the past 7 years IS the reason why I can say that Steve is touring better than Perry. Perry is NOT touring. Perry did not complete his tour for FTLOSM. Perry did not complete the ROR tour.

PROPERRY wrote:And I think this fact says it all, The Essential Journey Cd went from "gold to platuim" in ONE DAY! That happened some time after Perry attended the WOF!!!!

That was the day of the certification of gold and platinum. Essential Journey had not been certified up to that point. Someone has to pay for the RIAA to investigate and certify the sales of an album. If you had read EITHER of the threads posted about EJ certification you would have known this. Furthermore, because EJ is a 2-disc set, it only had to sell 500,000 copies to go platinum.

PROPERRY wrote:The amazing thing is that Perry has NOT been touring or singing for the past 7 years, and Perry still has the ability "to out do" Augeri who has been singing & touring for 7 years with Journey!!!
Lori

Tell me how. How has Perry "outdone" Journey in the past 7 years? Because the GH DVD went "platinum"? Even because EJ went "platinum"? I don't know if it is a great thing to know that more people wish to reminisce, then those who want to discover new material. But that is true...our generation is (mostly) stuck in the past. Look at the re-issues, re-releases, compilations, tour packages featuring artists and music from the 80's. Even stuff that was not "great" in the 80's is doing well now, because the consumer wants to re-live their youth.

BTW, nice to see you Lori. it gives me something to discuss.

Why bother, dude?
Things were so peaceful here for alittle while.
Now the agents of chaos have returned and are more than perfervid to get back to doing what they do best; attack current band members.
When it comes to Perryheads and their insipid prattle, just say NO.
Let's not feed the trolls, man.

by **PROPERRY** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 5:37 am

jrnyman28 wrote:
PROPERRY wrote:It is "my opinion" that Steve Perry is absolutely a better singer & performer than Augeri!

Nothing wrong with that. However, to say "IS" a better singer and performer is difficult to back up since there is NO evidence of that fact today.

PROPERRY wrote:The fact is that Augeri has been singing the SAME songs for the past 7 years that Perry, Schon & Cain wrote, so I don't agree that Augeri is touring better than Perry!!!

This is funny. The fact that Steve has been touring for the past 7 years IS the reason why I can say that Steve is touring better than Perry. Perry is NOT touring. Perry did not complete his tour for FTLOSM. Perry did not complete the ROR tour.

PROPERRY wrote:And I think this fact says it all, The Essential Journey Cd went from "gold to platuim" in ONE DAY! That happened some time after Perry attended the WOF!!!!

That was the day of the certification of gold and platinum. Essential Journey had not been certified up to that point. Someone has to pay for the RIAA to investigate and certify the sales of an album. If you had read EITHER of the threads posted about EJ certification you would have known this. Furthermore, because EJ is a 2-disc set, it only had to sell 500,000 copies to go platinum.

PROPERRY wrote:The amazing thing is that Perry has NOT been touring or singing for the past 7 years, and Perry still has the ability "to out do" Augeri who has been singing & touring for 7 years with Journey!!!
Lori

Tell me how. How has Perry "outdone" Journey in the past 7 years? Because the GH DVD went "platinum"? Even because EJ went "platinum"? I don't know if it is a great thing to know that more people wish to reminisce, then those who want to discover new material. But that is true...our generation is (mostly) stuck in the past. Look at the re-issues, re-releases, compilations, tour packages featuring artists and music from the 80's. Even stuff that was not "great" in the 80's is doing well now, because the consumer wants to re-live their youth.

BTW, nice to see you Lori. it gives me something to discuss.

Jrnyman,

I believe that it is MORE than just fans wanting to "relive their youth" or being stuck in the past. There are a lot of people who listen to the music of the 60's (me included), I wouldn't say they were stuck in the past, they just enjoy that particular era of music, that's all, so no difference with Perry/Journey music.

Although I would say that with Perry it goes beyond fans just wanting to "relive their youth" & just wanting to hear music from the 80's of the Perry years. I think the reason is that FANS CRAVE HIS VOICE & MUSICAL TALENTS!!!

Look at all the websites for Steve Perry that are on the internet for him! All Perry has to do is make an appearance, or do an interview, or go sing a duet with another singer, and the FANS are "right there" ready to buy whatever HE puts out there for them! Even JDK still get lots of questions concerning Perry.

As far as the EJ cd, it still went platinum in ONE day, and I think it had to do A LOT with Perry's appearance at the WOF!

As for not finshing his FTLOSM Tour, I'm sure Perry had "good reasons" and from what I read from Moyes Question & Answer Board, Moyes seems to be "supportive of Perry" regarding that issue, so Perry gets no judgement from me.

Besides Perry toured with Journey for 10 years straight with NO vacations in between times, as I understand it. I believe that is an INCREDIBLY LONG TIME for ANYONE to be on the road touring with a band!!!

As for augeri's touring, I don't think Journey tours in the same way that they did with Perry in the band. Now Journey takes "time off" in between tours. Nice talking with you jrnyman!

Lori

by **yak** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 6:37 am

I don't believe Journey has EVER toured for ten years straight, with no vacations; certainly NOT with Perry. He can't even finish out ONE tour, even when he's going solo. Where did you hear this???

:roll:

Perhaps you are confusing this with the ten year hiatus Perry took from music :?:

Since Steve Augeri became lead singer of Journey, things have run smoothly, and the band has a timetable that they know they can stick to, because the lead singer won't jump ship and leave them hanging.

The remaining Perry fans will purchase a whistle CD if Perry so much breathes on it, and Perry knows it. He knows exactly how to keep everybody at arms length while at the same time keeping them interested. I don't believe there are as many Perry fans left as some here would have you believe.

As for listening to past music, maybe it's because there isn't much out there today worth listening to, unless you go out of the main stream. Who cares about blond hoochies and white thugs?

by **Abitaman** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 10:15 am

yak wrote:.

As for listening to past music, maybe it's because there isn't much out there today worth listening to, unless you go out of the main stream. Who cares about blond hoochies and white thugs?

Well said, and at times a long wait for what is good, or "oldies"-ERIC

by **jrnyman28** » Wed Mar 30, 2005 10:25 am

PROPERRY wrote:Jrnyman,

I believe that it is MORE than just fans wanting to "relive their youth" or being stuck in the past. There are a lot of people who listen to the music of the 60's (me included), I wouldn't say they were stuck in the past, they just enjoy that particular era of music, that's all, so no difference with Perry/Journey music.

Well, it is about an era of preference. That is still sort of like 'living in the past'. I tried to use a different term because I did not mean anything derogatory...hell, I prefer that style of music. But a simple fact is people in our age brackets prefer the music of our youth. And it is easier to revisit what we know, then to find new bands playing the same style of music.

PROPERRY wrote:Although I would say that with Perry it goes beyond fans just wanting to "relive their youth" & just wanting to hear music from the 80's of the Perry years. I think the reason is that FANS CRAVE HIS VOICE & MUSICAL TALENTS!!!

Sure. There are fans that do. But there are also many fans that simply listen to old Journey because it is what they know, what they remember and therefore what they prefer. It may be for NO other reason than familiarity.

PROPERRY wrote:Look at all the websites for Steve Perry that are on the internet for him!

He was the frontman for a very popular group. And he was an INCREDIBLE talent. No doubt. I guess I find it interesting that Freddie Mercury has the same kind of following, yet those fans respect the band. And they still consider QUEEN to be the reason...not just Freddie. Why is that?

PROPERRY wrote: All Perry has to do is make an appearance, or do an interview, or go sing a duet with another singer, and the FANS are "right there" ready to buy whatever HE puts out there for them! Even JDK still get lots of questions concerning Perry.

Is it possible that Perry being 'out of reach' could be the reason? I think so. If Perry were out there all the time, making music, whatever, it could decrease the 'value' of what he does. Right now, it is a rarity and is treated like a collector's item.

PROPERRY wrote:As far as the EJ cd, it still went platinum in ONE day, and I think it had to do A LOT with Perry's appearance at the WOF!

You are still wrong on that point.

PROPERRY wrote:As for not finshing his FTLOSM Tour, I'm sure Perry had "good reasons" and from what I read from Moyes Question & Answer Board, Moyes seems to be "supportive of Perry" regarding that issue, so Perry gets no judgement from me.

I never said he didn't have his reasons. I said he did not finish. Perry was unable to finish...for whatever reason he did not finish. And he has not toured since. So Augeri is STILL "touring better". I think that is a fact.

PROPERRY wrote:Besides Perry toured with Journey for 10 years straight with NO vacations in between times, as I understand it. I believe that is an INCREDIBLY LONG TIME for ANYONE to be on the road touring with a band!!!

That is also wrong. There was always time off before starting a new CD. And the time in the studio would still be considered time off of the road. I will say that Journey toured for longer stretches back in the day. They had to to get to the top and they had to to stay there as long as they could. Journey IS in the position now to dictate their own tour schedule. However, I have seen several of their tours get extended due to "demand". Even in this day of hip-hop/POP/nu-metal/cRAP they are still one of the higher grossing touring acts each summer.

It is still like comparing apples to oranges when anyone compares Journey of the 80's to Journey of today. There are too many factors...not just Perry.

by **yak** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 5:00 am

heardonthestreet wrote:HAPPY EASTER and long live Classic Journey, The Steve Perry Years.

From Hots and Att.

:shock: So you are saying you are both???.......Hots AND Atthistime?

:shock:

NOT!

How many others are you :?:

by **heardonthestreet** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 12:30 am

Triplets! Wait until you meet my evil sister.

by **The_Noble_Cause** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 12:40 am

yak wrote:
heardonthestreet wrote:HAPPY EASTER and long live Classic Journey, The Steve Perry Years.

From Hots and Att.

:shock: So you are saying you are both???.......Hots AND Atthistime?

NOT!

How many others are you

ATT is the poster who used to come here claiming to be privy to insider music industry information and would tell people that Perry was making a comeback real soon. Of course, it was baloney and ATT is actually just another girl who misses Steve Perry.....ALOT. Why that compells these people to come here; lie, decieve and constantly be on the warpath is beyond me. :roll:

by **perryfaithful** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 12:43 am

heardonthestreet wrote:Triplets! Wait until you meet my evil sister.

Bring her on my friend!! LMAO

by **perryfaithful** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 12:45 am

[quote="yak"]

What up Fred?

by **The_Noble_Cause** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 12:48 am

perryfaithful wrote:
heardonthestreet wrote:Triplets! Wait until you meet my evil sister.

Bring her on my friend!! LMAO

Yep.
Give people hell here, falsely accusing current lineup fans of using multiple screen names (like me and Yak), but then turn around and commend Perry-fans of openly admitting to illicitly doing just that.

Does you festering hypocrisy never end?

:roll:

by **heardonthestreet** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 1:26 am

What, you don't believe that I'm a triplet, N.C..? Did I openly admitt that I was atthistime? Did I state that she was my sister? Can you read? Should I draw you a picture?

Att and I are not at all alike. She is much nicer. She left because she felt she was a bad influence. Ha! Go figure with the likes of some of you airheads. A lot of you are no doubt fat,pimply with bad breath and get your jollys by writing dirty to women on the net.

by **perryfaithful** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:25 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
perryfaithful wrote:
heardonthestreet wrote:Triplets! Wait until you meet my evil sister.

Bring her on my friend!! LMAO

Yep.
Give people hell here, falsely accusing current lineup fans of using multiple screen names (like me and Yak), but then turn around and commend Perry-fans of openly admitting to illicitly doing just that.

Does you festering hypocrisy never end?

Oh for Goodness sake, have a cocktail and lighten up! You take this waaaayyyyy too seriously!

Now on a serious note, This CLASSIC Journey thread has had almost 5000 hits?? Yikes!!

MR

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