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Postby NealIsGod » Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:38 am

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Yup. Is your wife going, AR?


Not sure yet. She wants to. We have a sitter, but the dog is an issue. Are we staying over or going back afterwards? I guess that's the next question. My friend Doug, from the game Sunday is interested in going too.


I don't want to stay over. My wife can only be pushed so far... :cry:
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Postby The Fly » Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:45 am

Lexi wrote:JourneyRox,

You couldn't have said it any better. Thank you for that. Thank God we are all entitled to our own opinions. I am certain of three things, 1) Jeff is a class act - I doubt he is really offended by the bull shit becasue that is all it is. He is beyond minor stabs at this point. But I'm sure he enjoys a little forum fun too. 2) There is plenty of proof that the majority is in Jeff's favor - reviews, postings etc. and 3) I have never enjoyed a Journey concert as much I did with Jeff performing.

It doesn't mean I will be pissed or cry like a sissy girl if there ends up being another front man...it just means that in addition to being a long time Journey fan, I'm a die hard JSS fan now, also. No offense to the sissy girls...I'm a chick too.


Who the heck's crying here? LOL... I am glad many of you love him. But you don't need to call anyone names who doesn't agree with you. Some people.... :roll:
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Postby NealIsGod » Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:48 am

Lexi wrote:Thank God we are all entitled to our own opinions.


I know you aren't referring to this place. :lol:
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Postby dcvader » Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:52 am

AR wrote:
So that's 4 people from here going... anyone else?


So that means:

Niggy
myself
MSR
dcvader

Correct?


You guy's want to meet up before the show? They usually go on at 10 pm or so.
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Postby NealIsGod » Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:54 am

dcvader wrote:
AR wrote:
So that's 4 people from here going... anyone else?


So that means:

Niggy
myself
MSR
dcvader

Correct?


You guy's want to meet up before the show? They usually go on at 10 pm or so.


10:30, according the Jeremey. We will be there around 9-ish, I think. Maybe earlier. PM me.
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Postby Liquid_Drummer » Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:56 am

Will this debate ever end ? Even if Journey broke up today there would still be the raging debate of who's vocal cock was the largest. JSS has the job ATM end of story. All the complaining in the world wont change it. Steve A isnt coming back. Him and Perry both now have "chronic throat infections" or in other words age caught up and beat their vocal cords with a raspy stick ! Really, we will be lucky if there is another album. Or maybe we will be lucky if there isnt another album. I smell a hiatus coming.
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Postby NealIsGod » Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:58 am

Liquid_Drummer wrote:Will this debate ever end ? Even if Journey broke up today there would still be the raging debate of who's vocal cock was the largest. JSS has the job ATM end of story. All the complaining in the world wont change it. Steve A isnt coming back. Him and Perry both now have "chronic throat infections" or in other words age caught up and beat their vocal cords with a raspy stick ! Really, we will be lucky if there is another album. Or maybe we will be lucky if there isnt another album. I smell a hiatus coming.


I agree with everything except your thoughts on a new album and a hiatus. I think Neal and the guys want to strike while the iron is hot.
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Re: Jeremy..."Suzanne" on youtube

Postby ArnelRox » Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:59 am

Slamer Rules wrote:I went to a concert, (was more impressed than I expected to be, but it still wasn't right to me) I have read many reviews good and bad. I talked to many on both sides. Hey, I hope he proves me wrong in time. I am a fan. I hope some new music proves me wrong. I am rooting for the guy. He's an amazing talent. But like many I think they could have picked a more (Journey-like) voice.


The concert I was at, people thought he was great. They were excited, inc. the Leppard fans. I'm going to another on 11/7. The reviews I've read at Journey's site seen to be 80/20 for Jeff at least.

Have you listened to the latest boot? Take a listen, turn up the speakers, try to ignore Augeri's voice in the bg vocals mix cos it can be offputting. Then listen to an old boot of Perry if u have one back from the early 80s. Listen to the styles & the rocking. U might just hear what I'm hearing. Unless of course u didn't like Perry & just preferred the mild Augeri stuff. If that's the case, then that's what Journey represents to you. But I started being a Journey fan in 79 & for me, the rocking sound was what I loved.
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Postby Lexi » Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:05 am

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Lexi wrote:JourneyRox,

You couldn't have said it any better. Thank you for that. Thank God we are all entitled to our own opinions. I am certain of three things, 1) Jeff is a class act - I doubt he is really offended by the bull shit becasue that is all it is. He is beyond minor stabs at this point. But I'm sure he enjoys a little forum fun too. 2) There is plenty of proof that the majority is in Jeff's favor - reviews, postings etc. and 3) I have never enjoyed a Journey concert as much I did with Jeff performing.

It doesn't mean I will be pissed or cry like a sissy girl if there ends up being another front man...it just means that in addition to being a long time Journey fan, I'm a die hard JSS fan now, also. No offense to the sissy girls...I'm a chick too.


Who the heck's crying here? LOL... I am glad many of you love him. But you don't need to call anyone names who doesn't agree with you. Some people.... :roll:



I wasn't calling anyone names...it was a figure of speech and I was only referring to myself . Geez...relax. :D
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Postby Blueskies » Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:13 am

NealIsGod wrote:
dcvader wrote:
AR wrote:
So that's 4 people from here going... anyone else?


So that means:

Niggy
myself
MSR
dcvader

Correct?


You guy's want to meet up before the show? They usually go on at 10 pm or so.


10:30, according the Jeremey. We will be there around 9-ish, I think. Maybe earlier. PM me.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Oct 05, 2006 6:42 am

Slamer Rules wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:Q: Why is JSS fair game to all who want to turn their sights on him after about 1/2 of a tour, but not vice versa?


He's getting paid isn't he? If he didn't want to be fair game he should have never accepted the position. I am sure he knew this would not be easy. I would not want to be him. LOL... But if I was I would stay away from places like this.


I don't have a problem with it being open season on JSS for some misguided dopes at all. And I also don't think he cares about being fair game, paid Jrny employee or not.
What I'm really asking is why a person like you would take umbrage to him posting a rebuttal to a negative post about him and state multiple times that he should (paraphrasing) stay out.
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Postby The Fly » Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:12 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
Slamer Rules wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:Q: Why is JSS fair game to all who want to turn their sights on him after about 1/2 of a tour, but not vice versa?


He's getting paid isn't he? If he didn't want to be fair game he should have never accepted the position. I am sure he knew this would not be easy. I would not want to be him. LOL... But if I was I would stay away from places like this.


I don't have a problem with it being open season on JSS for some misguided dopes at all. And I also don't think he cares about being fair game, paid Jrny employee or not.
What I'm really asking is why a person like you would take umbrage to him posting a rebuttal to a negative post about him and state multiple times that he should (paraphrasing) stay out.


What's with you people and the name calling? LOL... So those who don't agree with you are misguided dopes? Whatever! :lol: I never said he should "Stay out" just don't know why he would hang around here much that's all. If you ask me ignoring it would be the best way to go. JMHO. He (nor you for that matter) are going to win over any fans by dissing people for what they think.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:16 am

What's with YOU and being bothered that he posts here? :lol:
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Postby The Fly » Thu Oct 05, 2006 8:19 am

Red13JoePa wrote:What's with YOU and being bothered that he posts here? :lol:


I am not bothered by the fact that he posts. That's cool! I am sure you JSS fanatics are just eating it up. But when he picks on a fan for stating an opinion, that I have a problem with.....

"Ignorance is bliss....& alive here on this forum!! Thanks for the comedy fool!"

The poor guy was just stating what he thought and he gets attacked my the man himself. That ain't right.
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Re: Jeremy..."Suzanne" on youtube

Postby Aaron » Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:09 am

You know, I don't remember anyone here ripping on JSS. Folks have expressed their opinion about his voice not being suited for Journey's sound but I don't think anyone has "ripped" JSS. So if I'm considered an idiot for having a different opinion of how JSS sounds in Journey then I think that sucks. Anyone with a brain would be taking a different approach on how to deal with differencing opinions. You can't argue against how someone feels for crying out loud.

JourneyRox wrote:
Slamer Rules wrote: Why do you even bother to post? You should ignore what people are saying instead of reacting..... :roll:


Why should Jeff stand back & let idiots rip on him? I applaud him for standing up for what he does for a living.
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Re: Jeremy..."Suzanne" on youtube

Postby Aaron » Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:13 am

So please explain how he is taking the high road with comments like this?

JSS wrote:Ignorance is bliss....& alive here on this forum!! Thanks for the comedy fool!.


I don't see how that's taking the high road so please explain.


conversationpc wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Slamer Rules wrote:Why do you even bother to post? You should ignore what people are saying instead of reacting..... :roll:


I like that JSS has no scruples against getting rough and tumble and serving these guys their asses.
Saying nothing is not the high road, it is being a fleeing vagina.


I admire JSS for not ripping these people a new one immediately but for taking the high road. There's been lots on here that he could've just jumped off the deep end and tore into somebody. Instead he is "quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry" (James 1:19). He's a class act from my experience with him thus far.
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Re: Jeremy..."Suzanne" on youtube

Postby NealIsGod » Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:42 am

Aaron wrote:So please explain how he is taking the high road with comments like this?

JSS wrote:Ignorance is bliss....& alive here on this forum!! Thanks for the comedy fool!.


I don't see how that's taking the high road so please explain.


conversationpc wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Slamer Rules wrote:Why do you even bother to post? You should ignore what people are saying instead of reacting..... :roll:


I like that JSS has no scruples against getting rough and tumble and serving these guys their asses.
Saying nothing is not the high road, it is being a fleeing vagina.


I admire JSS for not ripping these people a new one immediately but for taking the high road. There's been lots on here that he could've just jumped off the deep end and tore into somebody. Instead he is "quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry" (James 1:19). He's a class act from my experience with him thus far.


That comment by JSS was directed at fake Paul. I don't see the inaccuracy of JSS' statement.
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Postby JSS » Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:00 am

Slamer Rules wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:What's with YOU and being bothered that he posts here? :lol:


I am not bothered by the fact that he posts. That's cool! I am sure you JSS fanatics are just eating it up. But when he picks on a fan for stating an opinion, that I have a problem with.....

"Ignorance is bliss....& alive here on this forum!! Thanks for the comedy fool!"

The poor guy was just stating what he thought and he gets attacked my the man himself. That ain't right.


No, the 'attack' as you so boadly call it was in regard to the 'being blown off the stage' bit...it's obvious some want the 'soundalike/karaoke' idea of Journey continuing, but what people who make these posts don't realize is I could do Perry to a tee if I wanted to....did I spend 22 years making a staple for myself as a singer/writer/artist to end up a soundalike? Think about the answer while I attempt to convince you 'NO'.

On the other hand, I do try to uphold the Perry/Journey sound, meaning hitting some of the grammar & articulation that comes very easy in singing these songs (because singing them otherwise doesn't sound 'right' to me) but if I did a mere impersonation, I'd be nothing more than what SA was accused of for so many years, which I personally think he sounds like Perry as much as Neal does! SA had his own thing that he put into the Journey sound, it was his natural tone & range that fooled some into thinking he was identical to SP. There is & will only be one Perry, let's cherish that instead of expecting someone to continue with the band by merely clonng it, shall we?
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Postby conversationpc » Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:08 am

JSS wrote:On the other hand, I do try to uphold the Perry/Journey sound, meaning hitting some of the grammar & articulation that comes very easy in singing these songs (because singing them otherwise doesn't sound 'right' to me) but if I did a mere impersonation, I'd be nothing more than what SA was accused of for so many years, which I personally think he sounds like Perry as much as Neal does! SA had his own thing that he put into the Journey sound, it was his natural tone & range that fooled some into thinking he was identical to SP. There is & will only be one Perry, let's cherish that instead of expecting someone to continue with the band by merely clonng it, shall we?


The only time I thought Augeri sounded like Perry was the very first show that I ever saw of the band in November '98. Even then, I never thought he sounded exactly like Perry as some have said and then turn around and say that he sounds terrible...How can you sound "exactly" like Perry and sound terrible at the same time???.
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Postby Greg » Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:09 am

JSS wrote:
Slamer Rules wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:What's with YOU and being bothered that he posts here? :lol:


I am not bothered by the fact that he posts. That's cool! I am sure you JSS fanatics are just eating it up. But when he picks on a fan for stating an opinion, that I have a problem with.....

"Ignorance is bliss....& alive here on this forum!! Thanks for the comedy fool!"

The poor guy was just stating what he thought and he gets attacked my the man himself. That ain't right.


No, the 'attack' as you so boadly call it was in regard to the 'being blown off the stage' bit...it's obvious some want the 'soundalike/karaoke' idea of Journey continuing, but what people who make these posts don't realize is I could do Perry to a tee if I wanted to....did I spend 22 years making a staple for myself as a singer/writer/artist to end up a soundalike? Think about the answer while I attempt to convince you 'NO'.

On the other hand, I do try to uphold the Perry/Journey sound, meaning hitting some of the grammar & articulation that comes very easy in singing these songs (because singing them otherwise doesn't sound 'right' to me) but if I did a mere impersonation, I'd be nothing more than what SA was accused of for so many years, which I personally think he sounds like Perry as much as Neal does! SA had his own thing that he put into the Journey sound, it was his natural tone & range that fooled some into thinking he was identical to SP. There is & will only be one Perry, let's cherish that instead of expecting someone to continue with the band by merely clonng it, shall we?


Well said! Now with that...when is the next album? :wink:
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Postby treetopovskaya » Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:01 pm

JSS wrote:
Slamer Rules wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:What's with YOU and being bothered that he posts here? :lol:


I am not bothered by the fact that he posts. That's cool! I am sure you JSS fanatics are just eating it up. But when he picks on a fan for stating an opinion, that I have a problem with.....

"Ignorance is bliss....& alive here on this forum!! Thanks for the comedy fool!"

The poor guy was just stating what he thought and he gets attacked my the man himself. That ain't right.


No, the 'attack' as you so boadly call it was in regard to the 'being blown off the stage' bit...it's obvious some want the 'soundalike/karaoke' idea of Journey continuing, but what people who make these posts don't realize is I could do Perry to a tee if I wanted to....did I spend 22 years making a staple for myself as a singer/writer/artist to end up a soundalike? Think about the answer while I attempt to convince you 'NO'.

On the other hand, I do try to uphold the Perry/Journey sound, meaning hitting some of the grammar & articulation that comes very easy in singing these songs (because singing them otherwise doesn't sound 'right' to me) but if I did a mere impersonation, I'd be nothing more than what SA was accused of for so many years, which I personally think he sounds like Perry as much as Neal does! SA had his own thing that he put into the Journey sound, it was his natural tone & range that fooled some into thinking he was identical to SP. There is & will only be one Perry, let's cherish that instead of expecting someone to continue with the band by merely clonng it, shall we?


can i get an amen!! }=C))

(tho... now i'm real curious... i wanna hear just how close jeff can get to steve perry! }=Cþ)
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Postby SunshineTwilight » Thu Oct 05, 2006 5:34 pm

treetopovskaya wrote:
JSS wrote:
Slamer Rules wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:What's with YOU and being bothered that he posts here? :lol:


I am not bothered by the fact that he posts. That's cool! I am sure you JSS fanatics are just eating it up. But when he picks on a fan for stating an opinion, that I have a problem with.....

"Ignorance is bliss....& alive here on this forum!! Thanks for the comedy fool!"

The poor guy was just stating what he thought and he gets attacked my the man himself. That ain't right.


No, the 'attack' as you so boadly call it was in regard to the 'being blown off the stage' bit...it's obvious some want the 'soundalike/karaoke' idea of Journey continuing, but what people who make these posts don't realize is I could do Perry to a tee if I wanted to....did I spend 22 years making a staple for myself as a singer/writer/artist to end up a soundalike? Think about the answer while I attempt to convince you 'NO'.

On the other hand, I do try to uphold the Perry/Journey sound, meaning hitting some of the grammar & articulation that comes very easy in singing these songs (because singing them otherwise doesn't sound 'right' to me) but if I did a mere impersonation, I'd be nothing more than what SA was accused of for so many years, which I personally think he sounds like Perry as much as Neal does! SA had his own thing that he put into the Journey sound, it was his natural tone & range that fooled some into thinking he was identical to SP. There is & will only be one Perry, let's cherish that instead of expecting someone to continue with the band by merely clonng it, shall we?


can i get an amen!! }=C))

(tho... now i'm real curious... i wanna hear just how close jeff can get to steve perry! }=Cþ)



AMEN!!!! :wink:

Jeff, I am glad that you aren't trying to sound like SP or SA or else I wouldn't be listening to Journey now!

Don't get me wrong people, I have liked Journey since the 70's but never really listened to them other than what was on the radio. I always thought they were too "light" for my tastes. Jeff has brought balls to this band and that is just what they needed. That being said, Jeff has also brought many new fans. Fans that would have never given Journey a second listen.

Please don't slam me people, just MHO!! :shock:
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Postby Jeremey » Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:28 pm

A few things during breakfast this morning...

• Thanks, JR for your support, glad you like GMG! We rarely get to play that one, but it's one of my favorites too

• Frontiers has never tuned down any songs, they have always been performed in their original key.

• I hardly think Jeff worries about the likes of me "blowing him off the stage," though at the same time I wouldn't classify what I do as a "clone" or "karaoke." Some people's natural voices and tones are extremely similar, that's the genetic hand I was dealt, it's done me much more harm than good during my career. There was a time in my life when I didn't even know who Steve Perry was, and I still had the same voice. On the other hand, I could do a mean Michael McDonald, but that would indeed be an impression. The difference between impression and impersonation is that an impression is a vocal contortion to sound like a character, a la Rich Little. An impersonation is more along the lines of a physical change, like a Cher impersonator or Elvis impersonator.

• Looking forward to meeting everyone tomorrow night!!!
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Postby NealIsGod » Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:52 pm

Jeremey wrote:A few things during breakfast this morning...

• Thanks, JR for your support, glad you like GMG! We rarely get to play that one, but it's one of my favorites too

• Frontiers has never tuned down any songs, they have always been performed in their original key.

• I hardly think Jeff worries about the likes of me "blowing him off the stage," though at the same time I wouldn't classify what I do as a "clone" or "karaoke." Some people's natural voices and tones are extremely similar, that's the genetic hand I was dealt, it's done me much more harm than good during my career. There was a time in my life when I didn't even know who Steve Perry was, and I still had the same voice. On the other hand, I could do a mean Michael McDonald, but that would indeed be an impression. The difference between impression and impersonation is that an impression is a vocal contortion to sound like a character, a la Rich Little. An impersonation is more along the lines of a physical change, like a Cher impersonator or Elvis impersonator.

• Looking forward to meeting everyone tomorrow night!!!


Me too, J. This will be fun!
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Postby dcvader » Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:59 pm

JSS wrote:
Slamer Rules wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:What's with YOU and being bothered that he posts here? :lol:


I am not bothered by the fact that he posts. That's cool! I am sure you JSS fanatics are just eating it up. But when he picks on a fan for stating an opinion, that I have a problem with.....

"Ignorance is bliss....& alive here on this forum!! Thanks for the comedy fool!"

The poor guy was just stating what he thought and he gets attacked my the man himself. That ain't right.


No, the 'attack' as you so boadly call it was in regard to the 'being blown off the stage' bit...it's obvious some want the 'soundalike/karaoke' idea of Journey continuing, but what people who make these posts don't realize is I could do Perry to a tee if I wanted to....did I spend 22 years making a staple for myself as a singer/writer/artist to end up a soundalike? Think about the answer while I attempt to convince you 'NO'.

On the other hand, I do try to uphold the Perry/Journey sound, meaning hitting some of the grammar & articulation that comes very easy in singing these songs (because singing them otherwise doesn't sound 'right' to me) but if I did a mere impersonation, I'd be nothing more than what SA was accused of for so many years, which I personally think he sounds like Perry as much as Neal does! SA had his own thing that he put into the Journey sound, it was his natural tone & range that fooled some into thinking he was identical to SP. There is & will only be one Perry, let's cherish that instead of expecting someone to continue with the band by merely clonng it, shall we?


Well said Jeff, keep kickin' ass and don't be bothered by the BS. See you in Baltimore!!!!!!!
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Postby Just Mindy » Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:09 pm

Jeremey wrote:• Looking forward to meeting everyone tomorrow night!!!


Same here, Jeremy :wink:
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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:45 pm

Jeff raises a valid point of Augeri being accused of mimickery simply because he had the "misfortune" of having a sort of Perryesque tone and range. But to the distinguishing ear a lot of differences were apparent. He probably COULDN'T sound that much different than SP to some peeps....

JSS is a different kind of singer and I like that he picks and chooses the oportune spots (yes, opionion based only on a bunch of boots to this point) to roll the Perryisms out. But the catalogue IMO opinion stands up to the different treatments he brings.
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Postby NealIsGod » Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:48 pm

Red13JoePa wrote:Jeff raises a valid point of Augeri being accused of mimicing simply because he had the "misfortune" of having a sort of Perryesque tone and range. But to the distinguishing ear a lot of differences were apparent. He probably COULDN'T sound that much different than SP to some peeps....

JSS is a different kind of singer and I like that he picks and chooses the oportune spots (yes, opionion based only on a bunch of boots to this point) to roll the Perryisms out.


Yeah, I think it's like Hagar joining VH. He can cover the old stuff, but brings an exciting new quality to the band. The future is bright.
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Postby Moon Beam » Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:58 pm

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Red13JoePa wrote:Jeff raises a valid point of Augeri being accused of mimicing simply because he had the "misfortune" of having a sort of Perryesque tone and range. But to the distinguishing ear a lot of differences were apparent. He probably COULDN'T sound that much different than SP to some peeps....

JSS is a different kind of singer and I like that he picks and chooses the oportune spots (yes, opionion based only on a bunch of boots to this point) to roll the Perryisms out.


Yeah, I think it's like Hagar joining VH. He can cover the old stuff, but brings an exciting new quality to the band. The future is bright.


I'll buy that Niggy, same kinda thing surely, good example.
In that case though I think Hagar sounded like Roth.
Here Sir Soto sounds like himself not Perry.
Just my wee opinion

Oh ya and...Mornin JoePa....why?, cuz I put your
words in there to....may as well say hello :wink: :lol:
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Postby Moon Beam » Fri Oct 06, 2006 12:01 am

When I die......
On my tombstone I want it to say somewhere......
Here ends her editing errors! :x


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