RaiderFan wrote:You're supposed to have that idiot Al Gore's back.
That's better than backing this guy.

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RaiderFan wrote:You're supposed to have that idiot Al Gore's back.
Skylorde wrote:Sadly, the surge really isn't working. There will be a troop pull out within 18 months, I'm certain of it. We didn't get to this stage of the game by losses on the battlefield. The left, virtually working hand in hand with Al Queda in the press, defeated us.
The left does not want us to win because they'll suffer politically. Although I was DREADFULLY mistaken in my early support for this war, I also recognize a pull out will create a much, much bigger problem. Thus I recognize the importance of getting the Iraqi government to stand on it's own, even though I doubt it'll happen.
The left rode to power in 2006 on the "WE HATE GEORGE BUSH" platform. Not original ideas. Not a new vision, no new direction. In the short time they've been in power, they've launched 300 congressional investigations. Granted, some of them are legitimate like the white house firing of the Federal prosecutors who didn't toe the Administration's line. Notice Johnny Sutton still has his job?
The blame for the sad state of the Republican party starts with our idiot president and flows down through the ranks to all the kool aid drinking Senators and Congressman who blindly followed this bumbling idiot through one catastrophe after the next.
24 months ago, I predicted Bush's legacy would be WORSE than Carters and most people thought that just wasn't possible. Nobody can top that.
I was right.
Rick wrote:RaiderFan wrote:You're supposed to have that idiot Al Gore's back.
That's better than backing this guy.
Seven Wishes wrote:"Abysmal? He's the most proactive President since Clinton, and he's bringing much-needed change for the better to a nation that has been tyrannized by the worst President since Hoover."- 7 Wishes on Pres. Obama
Tyler wrote:Skylorde wrote:Sadly, the surge really isn't working. There will be a troop pull out within 18 months, I'm certain of it. We didn't get to this stage of the game by losses on the battlefield. The left, virtually working hand in hand with Al Queda in the press, defeated us.
The left does not want us to win because they'll suffer politically. Although I was DREADFULLY mistaken in my early support for this war, I also recognize a pull out will create a much, much bigger problem. Thus I recognize the importance of getting the Iraqi government to stand on it's own, even though I doubt it'll happen.
The left rode to power in 2006 on the "WE HATE GEORGE BUSH" platform. Not original ideas. Not a new vision, no new direction. In the short time they've been in power, they've launched 300 congressional investigations. Granted, some of them are legitimate like the white house firing of the Federal prosecutors who didn't toe the Administration's line. Notice Johnny Sutton still has his job?
The blame for the sad state of the Republican party starts with our idiot president and flows down through the ranks to all the kool aid drinking Senators and Congressman who blindly followed this bumbling idiot through one catastrophe after the next.
24 months ago, I predicted Bush's legacy would be WORSE than Carters and most people thought that just wasn't possible. Nobody can top that.
I was right.
I would say to rate Bush lower than Carter would be to say that each
American's standard of living and opportunity in this country and abroad
would be less than in "Jimmy's" day. That is so obviously NOT true.
The economy is a global freight train driving worlwide economic
expansion. Gas prices are high but in regard to how high they were in
Jimmy's America they are very low, and we don't have to wait in line to
get it!
America may be a bit tarnished over Iraq, but why does everyone
still want to come here? Certainly NOT because we are not respected and
looked upon as impotent idiots as we were in Jimmy's America. We have a
president that sticks it to the enemy not one that negotiates with a
soft voice and a sweater, giving the enemy everything they want to get
the hostages back. Carter vs Bush? Bush would beat the crap out of
Jimmy and take his lunch and milk money!
Seven Wishes wrote:"Abysmal? He's the most proactive President since Clinton, and he's bringing much-needed change for the better to a nation that has been tyrannized by the worst President since Hoover."- 7 Wishes on Pres. Obama
Rick wrote:He just can't help himself.
RaiderFan wrote:Yeah as soon as they come up with a "misery index" for the Bush economy like they did with Carter, a discussion could take place. The Ayatollah in Iran laughing saying Carter was, "running around like a headless chicken" during the hostage crisis. The Ayatollah then released them on the day of Reagan's inauguration. Yeah that Carter was great. What a joke
G.I.Jim wrote:Thank you SkyLorde! All I'm saying to all you people who just say "Me too" because they want to go with the flow, read for yourself and reserve judgement until you read something that didn't come from CNN, or someone like Al Gore. He has an agenda people!
Tyler wrote:
I would say to rate Bush lower than Carter would be to say that each
American's standard of living and opportunity in this country and abroad
would be less than in "Jimmy's" day. That is so obviously NOT true.
The economy is a global freight train driving worlwide economic
expansion. Gas prices are high but in regard to how high they were in
Jimmy's America they are very low, and we don't have to wait in line to
get it!
America may be a bit tarnished over Iraq, but why does everyone
still want to come here? Certainly NOT because we are not respected and
looked upon as impotent idiots as we were in Jimmy's America. We have a
president that sticks it to the enemy not one that negotiates with a
soft voice and a sweater, giving the enemy everything they want to get
the hostages back. Carter vs Bush? Bush would beat the crap out of
Jimmy and take his lunch and milk money!
Tyler wrote:Skylorde,
appreciate your words and I agree with you on those points. Let us remember though its not just Bush, it goes back to the choices happy clown Clinton made and all the people that advise and work for Bush now.
Overall, you are right on.
Skylorde wrote:Oh let's see. A recent reporter, independent I believe, was embedded with Al Quida and his report was broadcaste on NBC? CNN airing footage of one of their correspondents embedded with a Al Quida sniper, picking off US service men. Is that enough or would you like more?
brywool wrote:Technically, you are correct although there is ample evidence to suggest Iraq's WMD was smuggled into Syria in the days leading up to the war. However, none were found and I'll concede that point.
conversationpc wrote: However, it cannot be compared, even the least little bit, to the torture and death that happens and has happened on a regular basis by the other side in this war, yet the left would have you believe that we are the ones who are responsible for all manner of atrocities committed in this war.
As far as sodomy and deaths in Abu Ghraib, I haven't heard of any credible evidence of that occurring. If it is, the criminals who committed it are just as subhuman as the terrorists committing them every day in Iraq.
Saint John wrote:Those that were caught received the penalties they deserved, unlike those that beheaded innocents.
Skylorde wrote:Don't break you arm patting yourself on the back. Moore *WAS* in Cuba butt fucking Castro (probably giving him a reach around as well).
Skylorde wrote:Achmedinijad, Castro --- whats the difference?
JrnySuxBalls wrote:I never said you hated it. It's that you don't care. Hey it's 100 years from now, I'll believe Ann Coulter.
conversationpc wrote:Do I want dirty, nasty-smelling smog clogging the air? No, but I also don't want insane politicians enacting humongous tax increases to try to change something that is not going to change the climate. We should clean up what we can clean up, i.e. things like toxic waste dumps, dirty air in residential areas, etc., but let's not spend trillions of dollars on something that is not even remotely proven science.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Saint John wrote:Those that were caught received the penalties they deserved, unlike those that beheaded innocents.
First you claim we are winning the PR-war (totally oblivious of the intolerant anti-US, Israel media that comprises the Middle East).
Then you say Al Queda is going down (totally oblivious to their re-grouping in Afghanistan or the political power they yield in Pakistan)
And now you say this, obviously totally clueless as to how high-up the chain of command this went.
I don't know where you web-fingered backwoods freaks get your news from.
But it aint left, it ain't right, and it's certainly not an accurate depiction of the world stage as we currently know it.
Saint John wrote:
1) Where did I say that we are winning the PR war?
2) I said this war had "a long way to go."
3) No, I don't know. Enlighten me. Hard to respect the opinion of someone that can't spell "Al Qaeda." You're a jackass.
You have had 7 years of complete rule. The fact of the matter is The USA is a joke, is fucked up, and now the world hates us for fucking IT up. Time is up, you are done, out of chances and excuses...Get the fuck off my TV...Get out of my Senate, my House, and My White House. In fact, get out of all three houses, and go straight to Hell.
RockinDeano wrote:Saint John wrote:
1) Where did I say that we are winning the PR war?
2) I said this war had "a long way to go."
3) No, I don't know. Enlighten me. Hard to respect the opinion of someone that can't spell "Al Qaeda." You're a jackass.
SJ, TNC is pretty fuckin sharp. He is a little left of me,or Libertarian, but he is tough.
I disagree with both of you assholes on politics, and for that matter, disagree with all the GOP morons here as well.
You have had 7 years of complete rule. The fact of the matter is The USA is a joke, is fucked up, and now the world hateus for fucking IT up. Time is up, you are done, out of chances and excuses...Get the fuck off my TV...Get out of my Senate, my House, and My White House. In fact, get out of all three houses, and go straight to Hell.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:The brutalism displayed in Abu Ghraib is not lessened by the wanton savagery of the enemies we face.
Have things gotten so bad that we need constant reminders of "hey, well, at least we've yet to decapitate people!" just so that we can feel better about ourselves?
Seven Wishes wrote:"Abysmal? He's the most proactive President since Clinton, and he's bringing much-needed change for the better to a nation that has been tyrannized by the worst President since Hoover."- 7 Wishes on Pres. Obama
RockinDeano wrote:You make it sound as the "left" is all that bad. Hell, there is NOTHING worse than a conservative and that has been proven by the last 6.5 years. The GOP Congress has been awful and now you are all over the Dem Congress as being terrible. Dude, they have been in power for 8 months and only have the slightest majority. Next election, when a good junk of GOP's fall off, and a Dem president gets in, things will get better.
Hillary is not "left" by the way. She slightly left of center, not liberal. I do hope she gets in so we can get a pro choice Justice into the Supreme Court. The Court is scary as it now stands.
RockinDeano wrote:You make it sound as the "left" is all that bad. Hell, there is NOTHING worse than a conservative and that has been proven by the last 6.5 years. The GOP Congress has been awful and now you are all over the Dem Congress as being terrible. Dude, they have been in power for 8 months and only have the slightest majority. Next election, when a good junk of GOP's fall off, and a Dem president gets in, things will get better.
Hillary is not "left" by the way. She slightly left of center, not liberal. I do hope she gets in so we can get a pro choice Justice into the Supreme Court. The Court is scary as it now stands.
Skylorde wrote:RockinDeano wrote:You make it sound as the "left" is all that bad. Hell, there is NOTHING worse than a conservative and that has been proven by the last 6.5 years. The GOP Congress has been awful and now you are all over the Dem Congress as being terrible. Dude, they have been in power for 8 months and only have the slightest majority. Next election, when a good junk of GOP's fall off, and a Dem president gets in, things will get better.
Hillary is not "left" by the way. She slightly left of center, not liberal. I do hope she gets in so we can get a pro choice Justice into the Supreme Court. The Court is scary as it now stands.
Deano, I bag on the left mostly for laughs but I also bag on the Republicans too. The difference between a Conservative and a Republican is becoming more and more evident every day. Same goes with the Democrat party who've pretty much been hijacked by the radical left wing segment.
I'd vote for a JFK era Democrat in a heartbeat. That just shows you how much both parties together have slid left on the scale.
And Hillary? She's a tried and true socialist, make no mistake about it.
Socialism looks good on paper but it is absolutely destined to fail as history has proven time and time and time again. There is no such thing as a delicate balance of Capitalism and Socialism. Once you start down the road of entitlement programs (New Deal, Great Society) there is no going back, ever. The amount of people with their hands out will be forever increasing to the point of system collapse.
Set all the partisan stuff aside for one minute and answer this question. Can you honestly say the founding fathers would think Socialized medicine, Social security, Welfare, etc are great ideas?
Skylorde wrote:
Socialism looks good on paper but it is absolutely destined to fail as history has proven time and time and time again. There is no such thing as a delicate balance of Capitalism and Socialism. Once you start down the road of entitlement programs (New Deal, Great Society) there is no going back, ever. The amount of people with their hands out will be forever increasing to the point of system collapse.
Set all the partisan stuff aside for one minute and answer this question. Can you honestly say the founding fathers would think Socialized medicine, Social security, Welfare, etc are great ideas?
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