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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:28 am

everytime i see one of these cold games.. i think to myself .. how in the world could i keep warm??? battery operated,heated gloves , shirt, pants,, socks... .........especially for the camera guys never moving up on the camera booms out in the open ..

but the players dont even wear long sleeves.. unreal..

but last week a kicker stated he was wearing battery operated pants.. he should have kept that to himself..
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Postby Enigma869 » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:18 am

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New England wins it 24-17

Packers win this one 17-14


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Based on the absurd weather conditions in Green Bay, I'm amending my score. I see the Pack winning this one 10-7. I just can't see many points being scored in this game, and 17 combined points might be optimistic, given these conditions!


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Postby Enigma869 » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:29 am

Gates, Rivers, and Tomlinson are all playing, according to what Norv Turner said. Look for San Diego to run the ball 3 times for every one time they pass it, unless they get Volek into this game! STACK the line, New England!


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Postby NealIsGod » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:33 am

Enigma869 wrote:Gates, Rivers, and Tomlinson are all playing, according to what Norv Turner said. Look for San Diego to run the ball 3 times for every one time they pass it, unless they get Volek into this game! STACK the line, New England!


The Cowboys averaged 6+ yards per carry against the Pats this year. Should be interesting.
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:37 am

larryfromnextdoor wrote:everytime i see one of these cold games.. i think to myself .. how in the world could i keep warm??? battery operated,heated gloves , shirt, pants,, socks... .........especially for the camera guys never moving up on the camera booms out in the open ..

but the players dont even wear long sleeves.. unreal..

but last week a kicker stated he was wearing battery operated pants.. he should have kept that to himself..


You ever play sports? I did and I got so fucking amped up on adrenaline, vicodin, vivarin(caffeine pills), and honey. Yeah, I pounded a small bottle of Sue Bees honey and mowed chocolate bars. If you are passionate enough, the cold is only between the ears. I loved getting after it in the snow. Played many a snow game in Pullman, Wa, and loved the fuckin shit out of it. No sleeves! That way you can't get held on running plays.

PS- Rivers won't last. He can barely move. Just watching him. If NE can get pressure on him, he is dead in the water.
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Postby San Diego Gary » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:40 am

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Enigma869 wrote:Gates, Rivers, and Tomlinson are all playing, according to what Norv Turner said. Look for San Diego to run the ball 3 times for every one time they pass it, unless they get Volek into this game! STACK the line, New England!


The Cowboys averaged 6+ yards per carry against the Pats this year. Should be interesting.


I know LT only had 43 yards against New England earlier this year, but he wasn't getting yards against anyone at the start of the season. But in his previous starts against NE, he had 123, 134, and 217. That's NOT including receiving yards. Doesn't mean they're going to win, but it would HELP keep Brady off the field.
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Postby Enigma869 » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:37 am

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I know LT only had 43 yards against New England earlier this year, but he wasn't getting yards against anyone at the start of the season. But in his previous starts against NE, he had 123, 134, and 217. That's NOT including receiving yards. Doesn't mean they're going to win, but it would HELP keep Brady off the field.



Dude...forget what Tomlinson did against New England earlier in the season. He's been DREADFUL this post season! He has 70 yards on 28 carries, for an embarrassing 2.5 yards per carry! That simply isn't good enough for a stud running back. If San Diego wins this game today, it won't be because of Tomlinson!


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Postby San Diego Gary » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:41 am

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I know LT only had 43 yards against New England earlier this year, but he wasn't getting yards against anyone at the start of the season. But in his previous starts against NE, he had 123, 134, and 217. That's NOT including receiving yards. Doesn't mean they're going to win, but it would HELP keep Brady off the field.



Dude...forget what Tomlinson did against New England earlier in the season. He's been DREADFUL this post season! He has 70 yards on 28 carries, for an embarrassing 2.5 yards per carry! That simply isn't good enough for a stud running back. If San Diego wins this game today, it won't be because of Tomlinson!


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I feel honored you said "if".
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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:48 am

If LT is "90%" than he should get his black ass out there. WTF?! Ever heard of vicodin or a needle? 90%?!! A lot og guys are nutting up and playing at 50, 60 or 70%.
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Postby Enigma869 » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:48 am

San Diego Gary wrote:I feel honored you said "if".


Gary...

If you read the predictions, I'm the only non San Diego homer who even predicted a close game. Everyone said the Patriots would blow the Chargers out, and I knew all along that this game was going to be a dog fight! There probably won't be more than 3 points separating these teams, when it's over. This is the NFL...ANY team playing right now is good enough to beat any other team, undefeated or not! Honestly, I'm FAR more concerned with how abysmal the Patriots offense looks right now than I am about anything San Diego is doing. The Patriots definitely have the most talented team, but the most talented team doesn't always win in the NFL!


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Postby Enigma869 » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:59 am

Rockindeano wrote:If LT is "90%" than he should get his black ass out there. WTF?! Ever heard of vicodin or a needle? 90%?!! A lot og guys are nutting up and playing at 50, 60 or 70%.



If news doesn't come out, after the season, that Tomlinson has a serious injury...His reputation takes a HUGE hit, regardless of what San Diego fans say! I'm not going to criticize the guy at this point, because I have no idea whether or not he's injured (although they're calling this a "coach's decision", which is absurd). I just think he better hire himself a good PR guy to put some kind of a positive spin on this, if he isn't really seriously injured!


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Postby San Diego Gary » Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:01 am

Enigma869 wrote:
San Diego Gary wrote:I feel honored you said "if".


Gary...

If you read the predictions, I'm the only non San Diego homer who even predicted a close game. Everyone said the Patriots would blow the Chargers out, and I knew all along that this game was going to be a dog fight! There probably won't be more than 3 points separating these teams, when it's over. This is the NFL...ANY team playing right now is good enough to beat any other team, undefeated or not! Honestly, I'm FAR more concerned with how abysmal the Patriots offense looks right now than I am about anything San Diego is doing. The Patriots definitely have the most talented team, but the most talented team doesn't always win in the NFL!


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Funny, even though I think New England deserves to be favored, and I wouldn't bet against them winning, I actually think the Chargers have more talent. A lot of the same people who say New England can't lose, are the same ones who picked the Chargers to win it all in the preseason. I know things change, (thankfully for the Chargers after their terrible start) but I don't see how they change THAT much. All I've said this week is they have a chance. Thank you for at least considering that. (I guess what I'm saying is the Patriots right now are playing better as a team. And as much as I hate their coach, I give him the credit for that.)

It would be nice though, to be a little more healthy when playing what some are saying is the best team ever. But it is what it is. Let's play.
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Postby NealIsGod » Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:43 am

The Bolts are only down by 5 at the half. Cowher is calling for Volek in the 2nd half. Let's see if Norv has the balls to yank Rivers out of the game. Volek would play much better ball than Rivers is playing right now.
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Postby San Diego Gary » Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:49 am

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Rockindeano wrote:If LT is "90%" than he should get his black ass out there. WTF?! Ever heard of vicodin or a needle? 90%?!! A lot og guys are nutting up and playing at 50, 60 or 70%.



If news doesn't come out, after the season, that Tomlinson has a serious injury...His reputation takes a HUGE hit, regardless of what San Diego fans say! I'm not going to criticize the guy at this point, because I have no idea whether or not he's injured (although they're calling this a "coach's decision", which is absurd). I just think he better hire himself a good PR guy to put some kind of a positive spin on this, if he isn't really seriously injured!


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I'm just wondering if it really is a coaching decision, maybe they think a healthy 1-2 Turner-Sproles punch is better than a limited LT. I'm telling you, they have a LOT of faith in those two. And if that's the case, can Volek be far behind?
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Postby NealIsGod » Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:55 am

LT must be hurt pretty bad. I heard them say it was a coach's decision, so I am sure LT is dying to get back in the game.
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Postby conversationpc » Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:32 am

With the Chargers unable to score touchdowns today, that last TD by NE should make it near impossible for SD to come back in this game.
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Postby Barb » Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:43 am

Rockindeano wrote:If LT is "90%" than he should get his black ass out there. WTF?! Ever heard of vicodin or a needle? 90%?!! A lot og guys are nutting up and playing at 50, 60 or 70%.


You can numb yourself to the point where you don't feel anything and he could completely fuck up his knee in that case. Not worth it. I'm sure any player would do pretty much whatever it takes to be playing in this game, but sometimes you just can't. :(
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Postby Enigma869 » Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:53 am

Barb wrote:You can numb yourself to the point where you don't feel anything and he could completely fuck up his knee in that case. Not worth it. I'm sure any player would do pretty much whatever it takes to be playing in this game, but sometimes you just can't. :(



If that's the case, Tomlinson shouldn't be coming out and telling the media that he's 90%, before the game starts! The reality is that most guys in the NFL are lucky if they're 90%, at this point in the season! As I said earlier, his reputation takes a HUGE hit for sitting this one out, unless he has to have surgery at the end of the season, to repair damage that is a MUCH worst, than what's been reported. You can't be the "best offensive player in the NFL", as Dean called him, and then sit out for most of two playoff games, unless you're seriously injured!


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Postby 7 Wishes » Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:55 am

San Diego Gary wrote: I actually think the Chargers have more talent. A lot of the same people who say New England can't lose, are the same ones who picked the Chargers to win it all in the preseason.


Point A: More talent? Laughable.

Point B: Pre-season favourites? According to whom? The Patriots were pretty much universal pre-season favourites.

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Postby Rick » Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:56 am

Congrats to the Patriots fans on this board. Fuckin pricks. :lol:
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Postby conversationpc » Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:57 am

Enigma869 wrote:As I said earlier, his reputation takes a HUGE hit for sitting this one out, unless he has to have surgery at the end of the season, to repair damage that is a MUCH worst, than what's been reported. You can't be the "best offensive player in the NFL", as Dean called him, and then sit out for most of two playoff games, unless you're seriously injured!


He isn't sitting this one out. The coach pulled him out in favor of two healthy players. Big difference.
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Postby San Diego Gary » Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:57 am

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Barb wrote:You can numb yourself to the point where you don't feel anything and he could completely fuck up his knee in that case. Not worth it. I'm sure any player would do pretty much whatever it takes to be playing in this game, but sometimes you just can't. :(



If that's the case, Tomlinson shouldn't be coming out and telling the media that he's 90%, before the game starts! The reality is that most guys in the NFL are lucky if they're 90%, at this point in the season! As I said earlier, his reputation takes a HUGE hit for sitting this one out, unless he has to have surgery at the end of the season, to repair damage that is a MUCH worst, than what's been reported. You can't be the "best offensive player in the NFL", as Dean called him, and then sit out for most of two playoff games, unless you're seriously injured!


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Whatever the problem or decision is, the bottom line is he didn't play, and his team lost. I can think of no way to put a positive spin on that.
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Postby Enigma869 » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:00 am

San Diego Gary wrote:Funny, even though I think New England deserves to be favored, and I wouldn't bet against them winning, I actually think the Chargers have more talent.



Gary...

You really need to take off your lightning bolt colored glasses! How the hell can you watch the Patriots offense break EVERY record in the history of the NFL and say the Chargers have more talent? If you said the Chargers have faster and younger linebackers, I'd give you that, but come on! You really need to get a grip on reality, dude!

I'll tell you something else...This is officially the absolute WORST postseason game that I've EVER seen Brady play, and the fact that the Chargers couldn't do anything with the 100 opportunities they've been given, by Brady's endless mistakes, tells me that you and the Chargers have one thing in common...you both think the Chargers are FAR better than what they are! One of these seasons the Chargers will learn to shut their damn pie holes and just play football! I can't wait to hear Tomlinson and River's whiny asses after this game!


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Postby San Diego Gary » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:01 am

7 Wishes wrote:
San Diego Gary wrote: I actually think the Chargers have more talent. A lot of the same people who say New England can't lose, are the same ones who picked the Chargers to win it all in the preseason.


Point A: More talent? Laughable.

Point B: Pre-season favourites? According to whom? The Patriots were pretty much universal pre-season favourites.

I'll have some of what you're smoking please. Send it to my P.O. Box.



If you were worth it, I'd go back and look them up for you. But, unlike the civilized conversations I've had with some others on here, you want to talk shit. Go ahead. Maybe someone will listen.
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Postby conversationpc » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:02 am

San Diego Gary wrote:
7 Wishes wrote:
San Diego Gary wrote: I actually think the Chargers have more talent. A lot of the same people who say New England can't lose, are the same ones who picked the Chargers to win it all in the preseason.


Point A: More talent? Laughable.

Point B: Pre-season favourites? According to whom? The Patriots were pretty much universal pre-season favourites.

I'll have some of what you're smoking please. Send it to my P.O. Box.



If you were worth it, I'd go back and look them up for you. But, unlike the civilized conversations I've had with some others on here, you want to talk shit. Go ahead. Maybe someone will listen.


NE is the more talented team...Easily. Yes, the Chargers are talented compared to most of the other teams in the league, but this is NE. Come on.
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Postby San Diego Gary » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:08 am

conversationpc wrote:
San Diego Gary wrote:
7 Wishes wrote:
San Diego Gary wrote: I actually think the Chargers have more talent. A lot of the same people who say New England can't lose, are the same ones who picked the Chargers to win it all in the preseason.


Point A: More talent? Laughable.

Point B: Pre-season favourites? According to whom? The Patriots were pretty much universal pre-season favourites.

I'll have some of what you're smoking please. Send it to my P.O. Box.



If you were worth it, I'd go back and look them up for you. But, unlike the civilized conversations I've had with some others on here, you want to talk shit. Go ahead. Maybe someone will listen.


NE is the more talented team...Easily. Yes, the Chargers are talented compared to most of the other teams in the league, but this is NE. Come on.


I have no problem with you, so I'll answer. Unless I'm mistaken, the only real change in New England this year is the addition of Moss. Yes, he's a huge talent. But do you really think after last year's loss to the Colts people were saying they were only one player away from being the best team ever? I still say, although they do have a ton of talent at key positions, this season is more a result of coaching and teamwork. JMO. I feel the Chargers underachieved this season. And I felt this way long before today. Again, JMO.
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Postby Saint John » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:10 am

That was a very clean, hard hitting game. A bit sloppy with some uncharacteristically poor passing decisions by both QB's, but a good one nonetheless. I had the under (46) so I'm a happy dude. 8)
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Postby Enigma869 » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:17 am

San Diego Gary wrote:[Unless I'm mistaken, the only real change in New England this year is the addition of Moss.


You are mistaken. I think you forgot a guy by the name of Wes Welker! I think the other thing you're overlooking is that one season is never like the next, even if the players are the same. The reality is that if the core team is intact, they should be a better, and more cohesive team, just by virtue of being more experienced. Listen, you don't have to give the Patriots their due. I think we're all pretty okay with the victory, regardless of what anyone else says! That said, they are now THE ONLY team in the history of the NFL who can ever lay claim to 18-0, regardless of who might have more talent!

Let's hope this Patriots' victory didn't send Mercury Morriss over the edge and back to his cocaine habit! That poor bastard is probably crying somewhere right now, along with Dolphins' fans everywhere!


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Postby JrnyScarab » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:26 am

Enigma869 wrote:
San Diego Gary wrote:[Unless I'm mistaken, the only real change in New England this year is the addition of Moss.


You are mistaken. I think you forgot a guy by the name of Wes Welker! I think the other thing you're overlooking is that one season is never like the next, even if the players are the same. The reality is that if the core team is intact, they should be a better, and more cohesive team, just by virtue of being more experienced. Listen, you don't have to give the Patriots their due. I think we're all pretty okay with the victory, regardless of what anyone else says! That said, they are now THE ONLY team in the history of the NFL who can ever lay claim to 18-0, regardless of who might have more talent!

Let's hope this Patriots' victory didn't send Mercury Morriss over the edge and back to his cocaine habit! That poor bastard is probably crying somewhere right now, along with Dolphins' fans everywhere!


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Fuck ol' Mercury Morris. If we win the super bowl I hope he doesn't kill himself like that Angels reliever who gave up the home run to Dave Henderson in the Red Sox playoff game back in the 80's.

That being said, congrats to the Chargers on a tough defensive effort. They had me squirming most of the game until the Pats started to dominate later in the game. The Pats offense has the ability to morph on the fly when things aren't going their way. It seems all the Chargers could do on offense was to try and hit big plays down the field. 18-0 is quite an accomplishment and I hope the Patriot haters can see that this may never happen again for 30-40 years if ever. I would hate to see it end 1 game short of 19-0. You haters will be able to rub it in but then again, lets see YOUR team get this far!
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Postby 7 Wishes » Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:26 am

First of all, San Diego Chicken, I wasn't "talking shit". Relax! Your team lost. So what?

The Patriots added, among others: Moss, Stallworth, Welker, and Thomas. Three Pro Bowlers and one former perennial Pro Bowler.

I would hardly consider that "only {adding} Moss". Everyone knows the Pats got robbed in last year's AFC Championship, anyway. They were a better team than the Colts.

Good Lord, man. Calm down.
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