Cyndy's & Lora's thoughts on the HH interview

[Tomulator]

Perhaps we should pose the question to Cyndy and Lora about the TIMING of said lunch.

Did it take place AFTER the interview was published?

That would certainly help answer the "premeditated" response alligation.

[DracIsBack]

Thanks for posting that Bill Graham show. Definitely not Perry's finest hour. On the other hand, it was an "on-the-fly" performance in a new key, without rehearsal.

There are some performances on YouTube from his 1994 tour that sound better than this.

[ForeverInBlue]

Frank, bud, you have as much anger towards Perry as HH. Chill.

Either put some music out or not...but stop going 'I think about touring all the time'...as for the comment regarding perry's insistance that fans get used to him being gone, Sorry. My source is protected there. Either discount its validity using your own filters or take it with whatever grain of salt you wish. Its validity is not integral to my assertions.

Then without naming the person you're as bad as you claim Perry is. You want to have this info, as Perry says he wants to tour and then doesn't do anything then you don't name the person who told you this info. I'm a confessed loon but I do know the score. I am not blinded by my looness to not see that Perry keeps the fans hanging on and then doesn't produce. However, I don't live my life hanging on whether Perry sings or not. Would it be grand, yes. Can I live without it, sure can. [/b]

[Memorex]

I don't have "proof" that we landed on the moon, but I can certainly connect the dots and make an educated inference that we did..

Actually there is proof we landed on the moon. Lunar Laser Ranging Retroreflectors. Everyone forgets about that. But carry on.

[Tomulator]

I don't have "proof" that we landed on the moon, but I can certainly connect the dots and make an educated inference that we did..

Actually there is proof we landed on the moon. Lunar Laser Ranging Retroreflectors. Everyone forgets about that. But carry on.

[Saint John]

I don't have "proof" that we landed on the moon, but I can certainly connect the dots and make an educated inference that we did..

Actually there is proof we landed on the moon. Lunar Laser Ranging Retroreflectors. Everyone forgets about that. But carry on.

There is also proof that Perry keeps dangling the tour/new music carrot in front of everyone. It started with TBF and more recently includes comments like "I think about it every day" "I miss it dearly" "I'm practicing scales" and other vague inferences in interviews. This guy is a fucking legend. He should start acting like it. Frank is right. Release it or don't release it...tour or don't tour. But for the love of God, please quit the barf inducing proclamations by proxy through mouth pieces like Joe Benson, Steve Lukather, Team Perry and others.

[strangegrey]

Proof? I don't have "proof" that we landed on the moon, but I can certainly connect the dots and make an educated inference that we did. Frank did the exact same thing.

Actually, I didn't make an inference...I have a source. I just wont reveal it. But like I said, anyone that wants to dismiss it, because I wont violate my source, is free to do so

[Deb]

Sounds like the lunch was before HH's interview, so there goes that theory. Besides, I'm sure they've had many friendly lunches over the years. You are reading a lot more into this than there is.

You're making an assumption.

No, just going on Lora's initial post saying "a few weeks ago". HH's interview was more recent.

2) Few years of bullshit? Perry, himself, hasn't said a word about putting out new material so not sure where he has to back his words up or be exposed as a fraud?

Oh gawd, listen. tell you what. You believe what you want to believe, I'll believe what i want to believe. The indirect comments that he's made on the BTM, the walk ceremony, the white sox interviews and the many press releases facilitated by Insane Asylum seem to fly right over your head, eh? I guess our reality is really a product of our own psychosis.

Deal! Sorry, but I don't over-analyze, magnify and dissect every single comment he's ever made. I'm not still dwelling on his "I think of singing every day" comment that he made years ago on BTM.

So if you don't care if he can sing or not and it's all watery dogshit, why so much anger.....move on then.

Listen, to quote Herb, I have zero dog in this fight. If you need to cast daily illusions about Perry making a triumphant return from the grave to help you get out of bed in the morning. I'm not going to stop you. Whatever makes it work for you. But like I said, reading it here and seeing the hypocracy regarding the charges against Herbie from someone who's got Perry as a fucking client, is too much for me to hold back the stomach juices from surging out of my throat. I'm sick of bile.

Yep, whether Perry sings again or not is what gets me out of bed in the morning. Sheesh, if what Perry does or doesn't do gets your bile flowing, ya might want to get some help with that.

[Memorex]

I don't have "proof" that we landed on the moon, but I can certainly connect the dots and make an educated inference that we did..

Actually there is proof we landed on the moon. Lunar Laser Ranging Retroreflectors. Everyone forgets about that. But carry on.

There is also proof that Perry keeps dangling the tour/new music carrot in front of everyone. It started with TBF and more recently includes comments like "I think about it every day" "I miss it dearly" "I'm practicing scales" and other vague inferences in interviews. This guy is a fucking legend. He should start acting like it. Frank is right. Release it or don't release it...tour or don't tour. But for the love of God, please quit the barf inducing proclamations by proxy through mouth pieces like Joe Benson, Steve Lukather, Team Perry and others.

I hear this from bands and singers ALL THE TIME! Not to mention, he likely does think about it every day, he likely does miss it, and it certainly looks like he has been working on his scales.

And let's recall one major component of this. The man does not have a record deal (that we know of). That means the cash for demos is likely coming out of his pocket. Knowing how Steve has recorded in the past, that's no cheap effort. I have no clue one way or another if it's a factor, but how couldn't it be?

Do these types of things bother you as much when other bands or singers talk like this?

[lights1961]

thanks ladies... class act!!

Rick

[strangegrey]

Then without naming the person you're as bad as you claim Perry is....

Oh for fucks sake, drain the abscess...it's cutting off blood flow to your brain.

I'm *not* the former singer of Journey.
I'm *not* the one dangling tours and a return to music.
I'm *not* the one that has been a primary contributor to the ROR/TBF derailments.

Perry's statement about his fans getting used to his absence is something, as already stated, is *not* pivotal to this discussion and you are free to discredit it. But to suggest that because my comment (which as already stated, can and HAS been inferred, by others) puts me in the same boat as someone that is primarily responsible for the ROR tour getting cut short and the TBF tour NEVER getting off the ground....is proof positive that loons drink draino. You really have a warped sense of reality.

[amaron]

Do these types of things bother you as much when other bands or singers talk like this?

Most bands and singers don't hold their fans hostage for years and years, staying involved with the music industry only enough to make money, but not enough to provide something tangible for fans who are looking forward to something, ANYTHING, new.

He may have been about the fans when they were flashing titties and ponying up hundreds of dollars for tickets, where he was THE big fish in the sea, but now it's blatantly apparent that it is all about the money and the most important thing to the Portuguese Hobbit: CONTROL.

[strangegrey]

And let's recall one major component of this. The man does not have a record deal (that we know of). That means the cash for demos is likely coming out of his pocket. Knowing how Steve has recorded in the past, that's no cheap effort. I have no clue one way or another if it's a factor, but how couldn't it be?

Given the cost of quality digital equipment, the ease with which it can be deployed and used and the fact that the current music industry business model is invalid anyway....suggests that this entire suggested theory doesn't hold water any more.

10-15-20 years ago, maybe. But today, major label releases are being recorded on laptops with a modest investment in microphones and software. Steve could likely record something extremely well done with a fraction of the money he would have needed for such an endeavor, 20 years ago. And reportedly, money isn't that much of a problem for steve anyway...

[ForeverInBlue]

Then without naming the person you're as bad as you claim Perry is....

Oh for fucks sake, drain the abscess...it's cutting off blood flow to your brain.

I'm *not* the former singer of Journey.
I'm *not* the one dangling tours and a return to music.
I'm *not* the one that has been a primary contributor to the ROR/TBF derailments.

Perry's statement about his fans getting used to his absence is something, as already stated, is *not* pivotal to this discussion and you are free to discredit it. But to suggest that because my comment (which as already stated, can and HAS been inferred, by others) puts me in the same boat as someone that is primarily responsible for the ROR tour getting cut short and the TBF tour NEVER getting off the ground....is proof positive that loons drink draino. You really have a warped sense of reality.

Dude, get a grip. I think you need to check with your therapist. My reality is just fine! Your anger needs to be managed.

[ForeverInBlue]

Do these types of things bother you as much when other bands or singers talk like this?

Most bands and singers don't hold their fans hostage for years and years, staying involved with the music industry only enough to make money, but not enough to provide something tangible for fans who are looking forward to something, ANYTHING, new.

He may have been about the fans when they were flashing titties and ponying up hundreds of dollars for tickets, where he was THE big fish in the sea, but now it's blatantly apparent that it is all about the money and the most important thing to the Portuguese Hobbit: CONTROL.

I believe you're correct. I think a lot of peeps problems are control. Steve is one of them, I betcha. I think he does what he does for the love of the music and fans. What abt when he met those girls from perryville. What was that abt?

[strangegrey]

Dude, get a grip. I think you need to check with your therapist. My reality is just fine! Your anger needs to be managed.

Yeah....whatever....I'm not the one suffering from a limited oxygen supply to the brain, resulting in a massive state of altered reality.

Wow, loons are coming out in full force today.....

[Deb]

Dude, get a grip. I think you need to check with your therapist. My reality is just fine! Your anger needs to be managed.

Yeah....whatever....I'm not the one suffering from a limited oxygen supply to the brain, resulting in a massive state of altered reality.

Au contraire, mon frère!

[Deb]

I believe you're correct. I think a lot of peeps problems are control. Steve is one of them, I betcha. I think he does what he does for the love of the music and fans. What abt when he met those girls from perryville. What was that abt?

Exactly. He had absolutely nothing to gain by showing up and surprising our small group of about a dozen fans. I'm sure one of them will find a way to spin that one though.

[Saint John]

Fuckin' Loons...Perry continues to piss down your backs, tells you it's raining, and then sells you umbrellas. Stupid fuckers.

[Saint John]

I believe you're correct. I think a lot of peeps problems are control. Steve is one of them, I betcha. I think he does what he does for the love of the music and fans. What abt when he met those girls from perryville. What was that abt?

Exactly. He had absolutely nothing to gain by showing up and surprising our small group of about a dozen fans. I'm sure one of them will find a way to spin that one though.

That 5 minute detour wasn't even his idea.

[conversationpc]

I believe you're correct. I think a lot of peeps problems are control. Steve is one of them, I betcha. I think he does what he does for the love of the music and fans. What abt when he met those girls from perryville. What was that abt?

Exactly. He had absolutely nothing to gain by showing up and surprising our small group of about a dozen fans. I'm sure one of them will find a way to spin that one though.

That 5 minute detour wasn't even his idea.

Darnit, you know it's really hard to find a Krispy Kreme sometimes.

[Deb]

Fuckin' Loons...Perry continues to piss down your backs, tells you it's raining, and then sells you umbrellas. Stupid fuckers.

[Saint John]

Fuckin' Loons...Perry continues to piss down your backs, tells you it's raining, and then sells you umbrellas. Stupid fuckers.

For the record, I do NOT consider you a Loon, Deb. Besides, being Canadian is far worse anyway (runs for cover!!!).

[conversationpc]

Fuckin' Loons...Perry continues to piss down your backs, tells you it's raining, and then sells you umbrellas. Stupid fuckers.

For the record, I do NOT consider you a Loon, Deb. Besides, being Canadian is far worse anyway (runs for cover!!!).

[Deb]

Fuckin' Loons...Perry continues to piss down your backs, tells you it's raining, and then sells you umbrellas. Stupid fuckers.

For the record, I do NOT consider you a Loon, Deb. Besides, being Canadian is far worse anyway (runs for cover!!!). :P

Them's fightin' words Danny!

[DracIsBack]

Besides, being Canadian is far worse anyway (runs for cover!!!).

Wow - welcome to the board.

[Lora]

To clear a few things up:

1) Our lunch with Steve was before Andrew mentioned anything about interviewing HH.
2) At lunch, I had a chicken casear salad, Cyndy had thai chicken salad and Steve had a cobb salad.
3) SP is not a client of FA. We post messages from him now and then, but that's just because he is a friend and we like him.
4) His vocal performance at the Bill Graham tribute was absolutely not up to standards. He hadn't sung a note in many years but wanted to be part of that day to show his respect to Bill Graham.

Cyndy & I posted about listening to the demos because we wanted to share the info. No one is dangling anything or teasing anyone about anything. We heard some demos. They were awesome. That's it. Those who take that info and turn it into something else are misinterpreting our post.

[Deb]

To clear a few things up:

2) At lunch, I had a chicken casear salad, Cyndy had thai chicken salad and Steve had a cobb salad.

[Saint John]

To clear a few things up:

1) Our lunch with Steve was before Andrew mentioned anything about interviewing HH.
2) At lunch, I had a chicken casear salad, Cyndy had thai chicken salad and Steve had a cobb salad.
3) SP is not a client of FA. We post messages from him now and then, but that's just because he is a friend and we like him.
4) His vocal performance at the Bill Graham tribute was absolutely not up to standards. He hadn't sung a note in many years but wanted to be part of that day to show his respect to Bill Graham.

Cyndy & I posted about listening to the demos because we wanted to share the info. No one is dangling anything or teasing anyone about anything. We heard some demos. They were awesome. That's it. Those who take that info and turn it into something else are misinterpreting our post.

1) I believe you.
2) Healthy eaters...probably why the 3 of you look so wonderful for your age.
3) "...he is a friend and we like him." I would have never guessed that.
4) I respect the shit out of you for saying as much. That said, you can turn in your Loon card effective immediately.

As for the last part...rub it in why don't you. Care to cover my body in paper cuts and dip me in rubbing alcohol while you're at it?

[Memorex]

Care to cover my body in paper cuts and dip me in rubbing alcohol while you're at it?

Yes.