GQ Story on Arnel and Journey

[stevew2]

Vrying opinions are more than welcome, but careful about the delivery there!

Sorry wrong delivery, disrespecting past band members that helped continued Journeys ablility to tour and make new music ,really pissed me off. That was my point, thanks

[brywool]

That was the most retarded article I have read to to date .Augeri bailed out ??, to much stupid shit to even take the time to repeat,Stick a testical in your mouth Neal it will make more sense. Just another reason not to see Jurnne this year, Great

also mentioned "after Perry left Journey"

Um, they left him, and rightfully so.

[yulog]

Jeff was "officially" named as Journey's frontman.............so ya, he was "officially" fired.

Contracts are the only thing that count as "official," darling.

Dude, give up on this point PLEASE. There were contracts, there was a deal, there was an anouncment. It didn't last. Move on.

Forgive me, Andrew. But I just have too..............

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[Andrew]

Vrying opinions are more than welcome, but careful about the delivery there!

Sorry wrong delivery, disrespecting past band members that helped continued Journeys ablility to tour and make new music ,really pissed me off. That was my point, thanks

No worries...fair point.

[stevew2]

Vrying opinions are more than welcome, but careful about the delivery there!

Sorry wrong delivery, disrespecting past band members that helped continued Journeys ablility to tour and make new music ,really pissed me off. That was my point, thanks

No worries...fair point.

Cool

[7 Wishes]

Yet no mention of the outrage of the inexplicable termination of the great Robert Flesichman. You know Schon doesn't want to go anywhere that powder keg issue.

[livin2do]

I LOVED this article. It is about as fun a piece as I could've ever imagined about the band. I can't wait to buy this issue. Of course, I loved the fact that the interviewer mentioned the assertion from my interview with Herbie Herbert about the legal wranglings between the band and Steve Perry, but my favorite parts were the mentions for melodicrock.com, the ALL-CAPS emails from Perry fans, and the inclusion of that great zombie opus Journey of the Dead!!!!

And, even though I'm not wild about the new stuff I hear, this article helps me stomach the crap that's gone on with Journey the past few years, and really makes me want to root for Arnel. So, I'm a fan still. Not the die-hard I once was, but I'll keep listening for now.

[The Fly]

Yet no mention of the outrage of the inexplicable termination of the great Robert Flesichman. You know Schon doesn't want to go anywhere that powder keg issue.

lol. Way to lighten it up in here.

[stevew2]

Yet no mention of the outrage of the inexplicable termination of the great Robert Flesichman. You know Schon doesn't want to go anywhere that powder keg issue.

yeh he liked them young also

[Andrew]

the ALL-CAPS emails from Perry fans.

I have had several of those over the years

[texafana]

I get a slightly different take from Steve Perry, who calls from his home near San -Diego. Perry, who’s finally started working on his first album of new material since leaving Journey, ”

Did anyone notice this???

yes, as we did several times the past decade.

[annie89509]

Its too bad, but it doesn't serve the band or the author to really discuss it at all.....

Of course not - because it puts the lie to all the hype and excitement about the coming of the age of Pineda.

We've already been here already!


Twice!

Right, I recall the SA-sung ballads from both Arrival and Generations being asserted as Faithfully2 at the time of release. Now, the hype is for AfterAllTheseYears .
All in all, very well written article. Kudos to the author for getting everyone's perspective.

[annie89509]

“Oh, y’know,” Schon says. “There’s no legal issue. We just try not to. I mean, I didn’t say anything inflammatory. I didn’t talk about how he still gets paid like a motherfucker even though he shouldn’t be. It’s stuff like that I’m not allowed to talk about. He sorta just bitches and moans and whines about everything. And he just assumes that every time we bring up his name, that we’re sayin’ bad things.”

Hmm. Now WHY would Steve Perry assume such a thing?

I don't know about you all, but I guess by "gets paid like a motherfucker even though he shouldn't be", and "bitches and moans and whines about everything", he MUST mean "Steve is a such great guy!"

Don't take this as some 'loon' jumping up to defend Perry - I'm not - my point is that Neal just defeated his own point, i.e. "I just slammed him twice, but that bastard always just assumes we're slamming him - the nerve!"

This is the only thing I can remember reading or hearing Neal say bad about Perry since the TBF debacle.

You must have short memories, NIG

[NealIsGod]

This is the only thing I can remember reading or hearing Neal say bad about Perry since the TBF debacle.

You must have short memories, NIG

Refresh my memory then. I remember Schon convincing Perry to show up at the WOF by saying he deserved to be there on the radio. I remember Augeri saying he would step aside if Perry ever wanted to come back. Countless ass-kissing compliments and praises have been sent Perry's way by the band over the years, but the Loons only like to dig for a nugget of negativity that they can turn into a mountain to throw back at Schon and Co.

[NealIsGod]

Jeff was "officially" named as Journey's frontman.............so ya, he was "officially" fired.

Contracts are the only thing that count as "official," darling. What's your next argument? That they "pinky swore?"

Dude, when you say stuff like that you ruin any shred of cred you think you have. Seriously, you used to bash the band and praise Perry every day, now it's the opposite. If Perry's album had come out first, I guess you would have stayed in his camp. Pick a side and stick with it for crying out loud.

[SteveForever]

This is the only thing I can remember reading or hearing Neal say bad about Perry since the TBF debacle.

You must have short memories, NIG

Refresh my memory then. I remember Schon convincing Perry to show up at the WOF by saying he deserved to be there on the radio. I remember Augeri saying he would step aside if Perry ever wanted to come back. Countless ass-kissing compliments and praises have been sent Perry's way by the band over the years, but the Loons only like to dig for a nugget of negativity that they can turn into a mountain to throw back at Schon and Co.

That's because he uses Herbie to do his dirty work, he's said plenty for Neal.

[Saint John]

Augeri was given the chance of a lifetime and made millions of dollars.

what

What the fuck do you mean "what?" He was rescued from his job as a regional maintenance manager from The Gap and afforded the opportunity to, over 8 years, make a couple of million dollars. He was given an opportunity, worked hard, toured harder, and cashed fat pay checks. What don't you understand?

[Jeremey]

Excellent article. Wonder when that interview was done, in the context of being sober for 9 months. I'm real happy for Neal and everyone around him, as I know that's been an 800 lb gorilla for many years.

[Saint John]

What makes you think Steve A made millions of dollars???

Let's do the math here, junior. He did approximately 400 shows over 8 years. I'll guarantee you that he made at least $ 5,000 per show. You following me so far? If your math skills in any way parallel your grammar skills you're going to need a calculator for the next part. Press the "On" button on your calculator. Next, multiply (that's the key that looks like an "x." Use your Speak N' Spell if you need help.) 5,000 and 400. You get 2,000,000. Since we were talking dollars, that gives you 2 million dollars, steviewonder2. Hope that helps!

[Saint John]

Dude, when you say stuff like that you ruin any shred of cred you think you have. Seriously, you used to bash the band and praise Perry every day, now it's the opposite. If Perry's album had come out first, I guess you would have stayed in his camp. Pick a side and stick with it for crying out loud.

I began to bash Perry at a time I thought his new album was coming out. Outside of Journey I have no interest in him, and only recently have I turned my Loon Card in and really analyzed all of the events (and non-events) of his last 14 years with the band. My new sentiments are the results of those findings.

[Jeremey]

What makes you think Steve A made millions of dollars???

You get 2,000,000. Since we were talking dollars, that gives you 2 million dollars, steviewonder2. Hope that helps!

[De Niro voice:]...Could be a little more than that, folks....

[Saint John]

What makes you think Steve A made millions of dollars???

You get 2,000,000. Since we were talking dollars, that gives you 2 million dollars, steviewonder2. Hope that helps!

[De Niro voice:]...Could be a little more than that, folks....

Thank you, Jeremey. I was going with a ridiculously low estimate. My guess is that Augeri actually made somewhere between 8 and 10K per show, maybe more. I'd bet he pocketed somewhere between 5 and 8 million in his time with Journey. Thoughts?

[Jeremey]

Thank you, Jeremey. I was going with a ridiculously low estimate. My guess is that Augeri actually made somewhere between 8 and 10K per show, maybe more. I'd bet he pocketed somewhere between 5 and 8 million in his time with Journey. Thoughts?

I couldn't even venture to guess how much someone would be paid per show, but I know Augeri was a full partner in the band, and with that kind of touring schedule, if you're not making close to a million per tour (individually) you might be doing something wrong.

[DracIsBack]

What the fuck do you mean "what?" He was rescued from his job as a regional maintenance manager from The Gap and afforded the opportunity to, over 8 years, make a couple of million dollars. He was given an opportunity, worked hard, toured harder, and cashed fat pay checks. What don't you understand?

I honestly am skeptical at how much money Augeri made. He's not a member from "the heydey". He didn't have the same songwriting and performance royalties. And frankly, Journey's tours weren't exactly filling stadiums. By the time you're done paying everyone for the tour (roadies etc).

Even if he was a "partner" in the band, would he have the same clout as Schon/Cain etc?

[Saint John]

What the fuck do you mean "what?" He was rescued from his job as a regional maintenance manager from The Gap and afforded the opportunity to, over 8 years, make a couple of million dollars. He was given an opportunity, worked hard, toured harder, and cashed fat pay checks. What don't you understand?

I honestly am skeptical at how much money Augeri made. You'd be surprised at how little "hired hands" make at times.

He was, by all accounts, a full partner. He made millions...there's no doubt about that. None at all.

[Jeremey]

I honestly am skeptical at how much money Augeri made. He's not a member from "the heydey". He didn't have the same songwriting and performance royalties. And frankly, Journey's tours weren't exactly filling stadiums. By the time you're done paying everyone for the tour (roadies etc).

Even if he was a "partner" in the band, would he have the same clout as Schon/Cain etc?

Yes, he was a full partner in the band, and profited the same as Schon and Cain on the touring revenues, and got any songwriting royalties plus advances, etc from Sony for Arrival, but No...He wouldn't have had the same clout as Cain, who in turn doesn't have the same clout as Schon. Neal's got the ear of Journey management, and it's clear the band is his baby, despite any other full partnerships in touring revenue. When Steve A left Journey, it was necessary to "buy out" his share of the Journey partnership.

[Deb]

Jeff was "officially" named as Journey's frontman.............so ya, he was "officially" fired.

Contracts are the only thing that count as "official," darling.

Dude, give up on this point PLEASE. There were contracts, there was a deal, there was an anouncment. It didn't last. Move on.

Forgive me, Andrew. But I just have too..............

.................. ..........................

[Deb]

Jeff was "officially" named as Journey's frontman.............so ya, he was "officially" fired.

Contracts are the only thing that count as "official," darling. What's your next argument? That they "pinky swore?"

Dude, when you say stuff like that you ruin any shred of cred you think you have. Seriously, you used to bash the band and praise Perry every day, now it's the opposite. If Perry's album had come out first, I guess you would have stayed in his camp. Pick a side and stick with it for crying out loud.

Got a chuckle out of that part.

[DrFU]

What the fuck do you mean "what?" He was rescued from his job as a regional maintenance manager from The Gap and afforded the opportunity to, over 8 years, make a couple of million dollars. He was given an opportunity, worked hard, toured harder, and cashed fat pay checks. What don't you understand?

I honestly am skeptical at how much money Augeri made. You'd be surprised at how little "hired hands" make at times.

He was, by all accounts, a full partner. He made millions...there's no doubt about that. None at all.

If you add gross salaries up for 8 YEARS, many of us have made a million.

Not quite the same thing as netting over a mil a year...

[tanga]

[quote="LazzMan"][quote="Ftloperry"]Perry, who’s finally started working on his first album of new material since leaving Journey


Nope, you're wrong. FTLOSM was before he re-joined to do TBF. He did have one new single, "I Stand Alone", off of the Vision Quest soundtrack and then Sony released "Greatest Hits + 5" as part of his agreement to get out of his contract with Sony. Otherwise no real new "Steve Perry" material. A couple of collaborations and background vocals but, nothing new.

You mean I stand Alone, off the "QUEST FOR CAMELOT". "Only the Young" is off Vision Quest!!