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Postby UncleKG » Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:02 am

Saint John wrote:Maybe for a shit group like Mr. Big


Whoa, whoa, whoa! I'm not a huge Mr. Big fan, but you can't be lumping Sheehan and Gilbert in with Bang Tango.

I realize Sheehan doesn't have the ability of a Ross Valory :shock: :wink: , but they had some good songs, and Eric Martin is a solid vocalist. "Addicted to that Rush," "Daddy, brother, lover and little boy," and "Colorado Bulldog" are all solid songs.
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Postby Rhiannon » Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:04 am

bluejeangirl76 wrote:Maybe they should take a shot at redoing "Gone Crazy"? :shock: :lol:


*Projectile vomiting.*
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Postby Saint John » Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:05 am

UncleKG wrote:
Saint John wrote:Maybe for a shit group like Mr. Big


Whoa, whoa, whoa! I'm not a huge Mr. Big fan, but you can't be lumping Sheehan and Gilbert in with Bang Tango.

I realize Sheehan doesn't have the ability of a Ross Valory :shock: :wink: , but they had some good songs, and Eric Martin is a solid vocalist. "Addicted to that Rush," "Daddy, brother, lover and little boy," and "Colorado Bulldog" are all solid songs.


Mr. Big had some of the worst lyrics ever written. They had to be high. Hard to take their songs seriously because of that. martin is a pretty good vocalist, though. He was a much better fit in a real band like TMG.
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Postby Deb » Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:12 am

UncleKG wrote:
Saint John wrote:Maybe for a shit group like Mr. Big


Whoa, whoa, whoa! I'm not a huge Mr. Big fan, but you can't be lumping Sheehan and Gilbert in with Bang Tango.

I realize Sheehan doesn't have the ability of a Ross Valory :shock: :wink: , but they had some good songs, and Eric Martin is a solid vocalist. "Addicted to that Rush," "Daddy, brother, lover and little boy," and "Colorado Bulldog" are all solid songs.


Image Step away from the keyboard, Dan. :lol:

Mr. Big was just as talented as Journey! Pull your Hannah Montana cd out and throw in a Mr. Big cd........they had some great songs. Lyrically they got better as time went on, just as Journey did. Look at some of Journey's earlier material too. :lol:
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Postby finalfight » Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:14 am

Deb wrote:
Mr. Big was just as talented as Journey!


Oh hell no.
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:19 am

Deb wrote:Pull your Hannah Montana cd out



:shock: :lol: :lol:

Yet another cup of coffee you are obligated to replace.
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Postby Deb » Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:20 am

finalfight wrote:
Deb wrote:
Mr. Big was just as talented as Journey!


Oh hell no.


Ok, maybe not "as" talented, but member for member, pretty darn close IMO.
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Postby finalfight » Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:24 am

Saint John wrote:
UncleKG wrote:
Saint John wrote:Maybe for a shit group like Mr. Big


Whoa, whoa, whoa! I'm not a huge Mr. Big fan, but you can't be lumping Sheehan and Gilbert in with Bang Tango.

I realize Sheehan doesn't have the ability of a Ross Valory :shock: :wink: , but they had some good songs, and Eric Martin is a solid vocalist. "Addicted to that Rush," "Daddy, brother, lover and little boy," and "Colorado Bulldog" are all solid songs.


Mr. Big had some of the worst lyrics ever written. They had to be high. Hard to take their songs seriously because of that. martin is a pretty good vocalist, though. He was a much better fit in a real band like TMG.


I'd go with this.
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Postby Deb » Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:26 am

Saint John wrote: martin is a stellar vocalist, though.


:mrgreen:
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Postby Saint John » Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:29 am

Deb wrote:Mr. Big was just as talented as Journey!


I win...period. Comparing Steve Perry to Eric Martin is like comparing a rare Rembrandt to me drawing pictures of my pecker on a fucking Etch A Sketch. And comparing the musicianship in Mr. Big to the musicianship in Journey is equally as absurd.
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Postby Deb » Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:32 am

Saint John wrote:
Deb wrote:Mr. Big was just as talented as Journey!


I win...period. Comparing Steve Perry to Eric Martin is like comparing a rare Rembrandt to me drawing pictures of my pecker on a fucking Etch A Sketch. And comparing the musicianship in Mr. Big to the musicianship in Journey is equally as absurd.


If you read a couple posts up, I re-thought about it and changed my post to "pretty darn close".
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Postby Saint John » Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:34 am

Deb wrote:
Saint John wrote: martin is a stellar vocalist, though.


:mrgreen:


I can agree with that as it pertains to his work in TMG. :D
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Postby finalfight » Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:44 am

Deb wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Deb wrote:Mr. Big was just as talented as Journey!


I win...period. Comparing Steve Perry to Eric Martin is like comparing a rare Rembrandt to me drawing pictures of my pecker on a fucking Etch A Sketch. And comparing the musicianship in Mr. Big to the musicianship in Journey is equally as absurd.


If you read a couple posts up, I re-thought about it and changed my post to "pretty darn close".


If worlds apart is close then yes. :wink:
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Postby conversationpc » Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:46 am

Saint John wrote:And comparing the musicianship in Mr. Big to the musicianship in Journey is equally as absurd.


Neal is my favorite guitarist, period. However, Paul Gilbert is one of the world's most technically accomplished guitarists and Billy Sheehan may just be the best bassist in the business.
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Postby Deb » Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:47 am

finalfight wrote:
Deb wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Deb wrote:Mr. Big was just as talented as Journey!


I win...period. Comparing Steve Perry to Eric Martin is like comparing a rare Rembrandt to me drawing pictures of my pecker on a fucking Etch A Sketch. And comparing the musicianship in Mr. Big to the musicianship in Journey is equally as absurd.


If you read a couple posts up, I re-thought about it and changed my post to "pretty darn close".


If worlds apart is close then yes. :wink:


:lol:
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Postby UncleKG » Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:50 am

Saint John wrote:
Deb wrote:Mr. Big was just as talented as Journey!


I win...period. Comparing Steve Perry to Eric Martin is like comparing a rare Rembrandt to me drawing pictures of my pecker on a fucking Etch A Sketch. And comparing the musicianship in Mr. Big to the musicianship in Journey is equally as absurd.


I call B.S. on part of your above statement. You're telling me that Billy Sheehan can't hang with Ross Valory? Puh-leeze. :roll:

Also, I'll give Schon the edge, but Paul Gilbert is a MONSTER player. I won't put Torpey in the same league as "Machine Gun" or Deen, but that guy can play as well.

Also, Eric has range, power and soul. He's not in Perry's league, but your analogy is WAY off base. Replace "Eric Martin" with "Vince Neil" or "Stephen Pearcy" in the above statement and then you've got something.

Come on, now. Grab a glove and get in the game. Just because you're playing left field doesn't mean you're not a part of the team. :wink:
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Postby Deb » Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:58 am

UncleKG wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Deb wrote:Mr. Big was just as talented as Journey!


I win...period. Comparing Steve Perry to Eric Martin is like comparing a rare Rembrandt to me drawing pictures of my pecker on a fucking Etch A Sketch. And comparing the musicianship in Mr. Big to the musicianship in Journey is equally as absurd.


I call B.S. on part of your above statement. You're telling me that Billy Sheehan can't hang with Ross Valory? Puh-leeze. :roll:

Also, I'll give Schon the edge, but Paul Gilbert is a MONSTER player. I won't put Torpey in the same league as "Machine Gun" or Deen, but that guy can play as well.

Also, Eric has range, power and soul. He's not in Perry's league, but your analogy is WAY off base. Replace "Eric Martin" with "Vince Neil" or "Stephen Pearcy" in the above statement and then you've got something.

Come on, now. Grab a glove and get in the game. Just because you're playing left field doesn't mean you're not a part of the team. :wink:


Agree with every word. :)

Torpey's pretty good and what's with all the drummers that can sing?! Come to think of it, Perry and Martin both started out as drummers too. :o
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Postby Don » Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:06 am

wednesday's child wrote:Fuck that.
Arnel should do Foolish Heart, LOL.

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


Sony/BMG would have Arnel's visa revoked. They've got agents everywhere. :twisted: :lol:
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Postby Eric » Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:14 am

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Eric wrote:I'd like to hear Arnel do Higher Place....


Err... no. :evil: That's another great J song that was FINE the 1st time. Enough of this re-recording shit. Bad enough they (or walmart, or whoever approved the promo material) are trying to pass off FITH as a new song. Now this? Do NEW stuff or hang it up.


I just meant live....
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Postby finalfight » Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:17 am

Eric wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:
Eric wrote:I'd like to hear Arnel do Higher Place....


Err... no. :evil: That's another great J song that was FINE the 1st time. Enough of this re-recording shit. Bad enough they (or walmart, or whoever approved the promo material) are trying to pass off FITH as a new song. Now this? Do NEW stuff or hang it up.


I just meant live....


Either way, considering the sales success of Revelation over its predecessor to the vast majority it is a new song.
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Postby Arkansas » Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:31 am

conversationpc wrote:Note to SJ: Faith in the Heartland, The Place in Your Heart, and Walking Away From the Edge are ALL good tunes. :twisted:


I like 'em too. However, as good as AP is with the ballads, why not 'Loved By You'?


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Postby Lula » Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:37 am

conversationpc wrote:Note to SJ: Faith in the Heartland, The Place in Your Heart, and Walking Away From the Edge are ALL good tunes. :twisted:


yes they are and jrny should leave well enough alone. this re recording thing is ridiculous!
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Postby Rhiannon » Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:39 am

Lula wrote:this re recording thing is ridiculous!


I thought the re-records on Revelation was fine... but all these random songs seem rather redundant.
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Postby Lula » Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:44 am

naw, re recording the classics was the biggest faux pas, but it has certainly helped move that $11.88 package :lol:
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Postby Ehwmatt » Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:46 am

UncleKG wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Deb wrote:Mr. Big was just as talented as Journey!


I win...period. Comparing Steve Perry to Eric Martin is like comparing a rare Rembrandt to me drawing pictures of my pecker on a fucking Etch A Sketch. And comparing the musicianship in Mr. Big to the musicianship in Journey is equally as absurd.


I call B.S. on part of your above statement. You're telling me that Billy Sheehan can't hang with Ross Valory? Puh-leeze. :roll:

Also, I'll give Schon the edge, but Paul Gilbert is a MONSTER player. I won't put Torpey in the same league as "Machine Gun" or Deen, but that guy can play as well.

Also, Eric has range, power and soul. He's not in Perry's league, but your analogy is WAY off base. Replace "Eric Martin" with "Vince Neil" or "Stephen Pearcy" in the above statement and then you've got something.

Come on, now. Grab a glove and get in the game. Just because you're playing left field doesn't mean you're not a part of the team. :wink:


Honestly, I enjoy Schon's playing so much. He's inspired my own style and is a great writer. But, Paul Gilbert crushes him technically. Absolutely kills him.

Go look up "Technical Difficulties" or "Scarified" by Racer X, SJ. Paul Gilbert is incredible and renown in the guitar community for being a virtuoso.

And comparing Sheehan to Ross ain't even a fair fight.

Haven't listened to enough Eric Martin/Mr. Big. Obviously MB isn't as good as Journey but to berate their musicianship is asinine. Sheehan and Gilbert are two of the finest in the world on their respective instruments.
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Postby finalfight » Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:46 am

Lula wrote:naw, re recording the classics was the biggest faux pas, but it has certainly helped move that $11.88 package :lol:


And what an impressive package it is! :lol:
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Postby Rhiannon » Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:49 am

Lula wrote:naw, re recording the classics was the biggest faux pas, but it has certainly helped move that $11.88 package :lol:


Well, faux pas or not (I still haven't listened to them :oops: )... I could see the logic in wanting to do that with the package. New singer, classic band, marketing schemes, familiarity to consumers... I think that was actually a slick move, pretty smart if you look at it unbiased and from an album pushing standpoint.

But ugh, again... what's next? A re-record of "Spaceman"? :P
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Postby Saint John » Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:55 am

Tito wrote:White Lion is not a shitty band.

The fuck they aren't!!!

Tito wrote:I agree TPIYH has potential.

So does a pile of dog shit if you're looking for fertilizer. What's your pouint?
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Postby Don » Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:58 am

Saint John wrote:
Tito wrote:White Lion is not a shitty band.

The fuck they aren't!!!


I agree TPIYH has potential. [/quote]
So does a pile of dog shit if you're looking for fertilizer. What's your pouint?[/quote]

Is SW2 using SJ's account?
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:58 am

Rhiannon wrote:
Lula wrote:naw, re recording the classics was the biggest faux pas, but it has certainly helped move that $11.88 package :lol:


Well, faux pas or not (I still haven't listened to them :oops: )...


Me either. And no plans to.
I got a friend who's bugged me several times to listen to the redone version of BGTY and I fucking refuse. I love the originals on those songs too much. I don't want to deal with the retreads at all because I think that whole thing was a poor poor idea. Major faux pas.

Rhiannon wrote:But ugh, again... what's next? A re-record of "Spaceman"? :P


Would not surprise me. :roll:
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