Verizon Sep 3 Concert Postponed

by **artist4perry** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:48 pm

Saint John wrote:He says the acid got so bad that it came up and burned his vocal chords.

It is VERY Painful!

by **scarygirl** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:48 pm

Saint John wrote:He says the acid got so bad that it came up and burned his vocal chords.

Man, tell him Scarygirl said to put the "burritto" down slowly and don't make any sudden moves.

by **conversationpc** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:48 pm

Saint John wrote:He says the acid got so bad that it came up and burned his vocal chords.

I can sympathize with him. I get acid reflux every once in a while at night and it can burn like a mother.

by **Saint John** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:52 pm

conversationpc wrote:
Saint John wrote:He says the acid got so bad that it came up and burned his vocal chords.

I can sympathize with him. I get acid reflux every once in a while at night and it can burn like a mother.

I do too, Dave. It's painful, man.

by **Rick** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:53 pm

Saint John wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
Saint John wrote:He says the acid got so bad that it came up and burned his vocal chords.

I can sympathize with him. I get acid reflux every once in a while at night and it can burn like a mother.

I do too, Dave. It's painful, man.

It's that shit beer we've been drinking. :lol:

by **artist4perry** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:53 pm

Saint John wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
Saint John wrote:He says the acid got so bad that it came up and burned his vocal chords.

I can sympathize with him. I get acid reflux every once in a while at night and it can burn like a mother.

I do too, Dave. It's painful, man.

Gee something we all have in common! Prop up the head of the bed, lay off the spicy food, no sodas, and suffer till it heals! :lol:

by **Don** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:54 pm

Rick wrote:
Saint John wrote:He says the acid got so bad that it came up and burned his vocal chords.

I don't know how he can read anything on the shoutbox, it moves way too fast.

screengrab, delete, screengrab, delete... :lol:

by **Rick** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:55 pm

Gunbot wrote:
Rick wrote:
Saint John wrote:He says the acid got so bad that it came up and burned his vocal chords.

I don't know how he can read anything on the shoutbox, it moves way too fast.

screengrab, delete, screengrab, delete...

I'll have to try that. Didn't even know that could be done. Thanks.

by **Don** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:02 pm

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by **Rick** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:09 pm

Gunbot wrote:Use the extension for Firefox if that is your main browser. I think that one works best. I want to start messing around with the google browser that began beta today.

I've been trying it out. It's pretty neat. It doesn't have any addons yet though.

by **RossValoryRocks** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:18 pm

According to my source Toronto is still on.

I hope Arnel feels better!

by **Voyager** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:19 pm

Rick wrote:
Saint John wrote:Arnel is in the shout box right now. He says he has acid reflux...NOT bronchitis!!!

How hard is that to fix?

Take two Tums and call me in the morning.

Yeah... sure... it's reflux... okay... cancel a few shows over too much pizza last night...

Bronchitis wouldn't be mentioned on the venue's website if it wasn't stated that way by the band.

:roll:

by **artist4perry** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:21 pm

Voyager wrote:
Rick wrote:
Saint John wrote:Arnel is in the shout box right now. He says he has acid reflux...NOT bronchitis!!!

How hard is that to fix?

Take two Tums and call me in the morning.

Yeah... sure... it's reflux... okay... cancel a few shows over too much pizza last night...

Your avitar so grosses me out! LOL!

by **fightingilliniJRNY** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:26 pm

Voyager wrote:Bronchitis wouldn't be mentioned on the venue's website if it wasn't stated that way by the band.

It's a lot easier to save face to cancel a show because of the lead singer's bronchitis, rather than his acid reflux...

by **Voyager** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:30 pm

Augeri disease:

Wiki wrote:A vocal cord nodule (or "Nodules of vocal cords") is a nodule or mass of tissue that grows on the vocal folds (vocal cords). Typically this mass will appear on the anterior one-third of the vocal fold, where contact is most forceful.

A vocal cord nodule reduces or obstructs the ability of the vocal folds to create the rapid changes in air pressure which generate human speech. Symptoms include hoarseness of speech, painful speech production, frequent vocal breaks and reduced vocal range. Females are most likely to develop nodules.

The nodules appear as symmetric swellings on both sides of the vocal cords. The cause of these formations are usually strenuous or abusive voice practices such as yelling and coughing. Persons who are often susceptible are those who use their voice constantly in a loud environment. Examples include teachers, cheerleaders, politicians, actors, musicians and singers.

Vocal cord nodules, although they can certainly impair one's speaking and singing ability, rarely harm one's general health. Indeed, the psychological trauma of being diagnosed with nodules -- a trauma affecting those especially whose professional success depends on consistently producing a rich and powerful vocal tone (e.g. singers, actors, broadcasters) -- typically dwarfs the limited systemic and even otorhinolaryngological effects.

Treatment, or voice rehabilitation, usually involves vocal training, speech therapy, and, occasionally, vocal rest. In rare cases, surgery may be required. Removal of vocal cord nodules is a relatively safe and minor surgery. However, those who sing professionally or otherwise should take serious consideration before having surgery. While the patient is subdued under general anesthesia, long thin scissors and knives are used to remove the nodules. The best preventative steps seem to be wrapped up in the study of vocology, the science and practice of voice habilitation.

Symptoms of vocal nodules include vocal fatigue and hoarseness or breathiness. Hoarseness or breathiness that lasts for more than two weeks may signal a voice disorder and should be followed up with an appointment with ENT.

More from Wiki:

Wiki wrote:Steve Augeri of the band Journey was forced to leave the band when his nodules got so severe in the 2006 tour that a replacement singer was drafted in to continue the tour.

by **stevew2** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:32 pm

I am not going to coment either way, the coment I did post was deleted. Carry on Arnel

by **journey062393** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:04 pm

If he had bronchitis, they should have cancelled a good 2 weeks of concerts. There is no way to get better from that without complete rest. Certainly singing and screaming at the top of your lungs every other night would not speed up the healing process. Acid reflux? I'm pretty sure with the proper medication, which I'm sure he has, and a few days rest he can be almost 100% quickly.

by **texafana** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:09 pm

Saint John wrote:He says the acid got so bad that it came up and burned his vocal chords.

Oohh.. that could also be a slight tear in his stomach, diaphram, etc. !yikes!

I just hope they don't bring in a temp singer.....Neal...don't fkin call anyone.

by **Saint John** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:53 pm

My health physician told me under no circumstances should I ever take Tums, Maalox or Pepto Bismol. Those products are a short term solution and actually aid in destroying stomach harmony more so than improve it. I was told that Pepcid and Zantac would help and that Prilosec is another good option over time. Diet and a lack of stress are key. You need to eat plenty of fruits, vegetables, whole grains, low fat dairy, and fish. However, you need to avoid acidic vegetables. Arnel should completely stay away from oranges, lemons, grapefruit, pineapple and tomatoes. They contain too much acid. This might sound crazy, but he should also look into meditation techniques to relieve stress. It will help him tremendously.

by **journeypower** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:27 pm

whether bronchitis or acid reflux, it doesn't change the fact that both these conditions have tremendous effect on an individual. I wouldn't choose either conditions.

by **Liquid_Drummer** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:32 pm

Not a good sign.. You can not believe what you hear coming from the Journey camp.. It could be acid reflux, vocal fatigue or anything... Arnel is going to "follow the rules" and tell us what they tell him too I would think.. Arnel seems of good morals from what I have read of him. He might be telling the truth in his shoutbox.. Question is where did the Bronchitis shit come from if its only acid reflux ? Whatever is going on I hope Arnel recovers fast and protects his voice.. Arnel, if you read this your voice is way more important that Journey. Dont be another casualty. Perry set the bar very high so please dont break your neck trying to jump over it...

If they try to make you go on anyway tell em to get fucked...

by **Moon Beam** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:02 pm

My sympathies to Mr Pineda and all the concert ticket holders for this show.
I hope he is given the time to heal so it doesn't hurt him further.
May the folks planning on catching a concert of theirs be able to see one
in the near future......hoping for the best to all.

by **Eric** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:27 pm

Acid Reflux is not bad heartburn...its far more serious... I have it and without my meds I have attacks in my stomach along with that bad heartburn feeling. There are different degrees of it too. Acid Reflux is a disease, and no matter what you eat you can suffer. There is a valve like thing between your esophagus and your stomach and the fucker doesn't work right if you have Acid Reflux disease. Tums and Maaloz, etc are silly things for when you eat spicy food. You do need meds like Protonix to actually begin healing the esophagus and stop the valve from allowing acid up.

by **Eric** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:28 pm

The show is postponed until December 3rd. I take this to mean that they have plans to extend the tour?

by **bluejeangirl76** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:34 pm

Eric wrote:The show is postponed until December 3rd. I take this to mean that they have plans to extend the tour?

Not necessarily. That may just be the most convenient time to reschedule on the venue's end of it. Or possibly between the two parties... or more likely between all 3 acts and Verizon.

by **Liquid_Drummer** » Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:38 pm

I just heard a boot of BGTYS from Aug 23.. Arnel sounds like his voice is giving out on him.. This may have been a prelude to getting sick.. Dunno. I will tell you that it sounds like fatigue pure and simple... It really sounds bad and a feel for him. I hope his voice isnt giving up already..... If so they should really just call it a day.... Arnel and his backstory is responsible for a lot of Journey's resurgence. Its a great story and pulls at the heart.. I am sure this has swayed a lot of people to attend shows that they may not have went too otherwise...

by **Tito** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:23 am

Saint John wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
Saint John wrote:He says the acid got so bad that it came up and burned his vocal chords.

I can sympathize with him. I get acid reflux every once in a while at night and it can burn like a mother.

I do too, Dave. It's painful, man.

Pussies.

by **Saint John** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:56 am

Tito wrote:
Saint John wrote:
conversationpc wrote:
Saint John wrote:He says the acid got so bad that it came up and burned his vocal chords.

I can sympathize with him. I get acid reflux every once in a while at night and it can burn like a mother.

I do too, Dave. It's painful, man.

Pussies.

by **journeypower** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 1:32 am

it's all stevew2's fault. he jinx'ed Arnel. damn you fortune teller. :lol:

by **stevew2** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 1:35 am

journeypower wrote:it's all stevew2's fault. he jinx'ed Arnel. damn you fortune teller.

I wish I was wrong

MR

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