The 2008 US Presidential Election Thread

[classicstyxfan]

Can't wait for the Biden/Palin debate. Talk about a slaughter? This should be TOO easy for Democrats. Palin does NOT deserve to lead the Pledge of Allegiance ...let alone VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES! Look for an easy one for the DEMS in the next debate.

I love how some of you Dems are so overconfident sometimes, something that has been Biden's downfall on more than one occasion. I'm not saying Palin is going to win this debate but even if she does nothing more than hold her own, I'm going to laugh my ass off.

I think the both of 'em will make their debate both comical and entertaining.....Palin willl be exhausted after a week of non-stop preparation and is bound to slip up in a major way, and Biden........will no doubt stick his foot in his mouth a few times.

[Lula]

i'm liking the trend.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... cain/#data

mccain seems to be slipping more each day. i'm sure he'll get a boost again, but doubtful it will come from palin. her newness has worn off and i'm wondering what y'all feel about her now.

[Jana]

The silence is always deafening on this thread anymore when Sarah Palin is mentioned, like Lula just did. Just saying . . .

[hoagiepete]

They were constantly at odds. Their relations were nasty, cool at best.

Uh-huh. Yup. Sure.

You go to the school of Letterman in taking things out of context????? Give me a fuckin break. Feed the bullshit "vote by soundbite and spin" society.

[strangegrey]

i'll try and explain what i mean. mccain's strong point is foriegn policy, i expected him to dance circles around obama. obama held his own quite well. he made his points all while being respectful of maccain and not backing down. mccain never even looked at obama which i found odd. all in all, i say a draw.

I actually felt that Obama owned McCain on alot of the foreign policy issues. For a long time, I did not agree with his stance at opening up discussions with adversaries from Iran, North Korea, etc....but I now get what he means by issolationist efforts towards these people actually embolden them. Obama not only clarified himself very well, but he did so in a way that won my support of his view on this...during the actual debate.

That's what a good debate is all about...Obama did nothing but turn me onto some of his points...McCain made me cringe all night.



And I'm a fucking republican, for fucks sake! Ugh!

[The_Noble_Cause]

You go to the school of Letterman in taking things out of context????? Give me a fuckin break. Feed the bullshit "vote by soundbite and spin" society.

Doesn't look like their relationship was "nasty" in the above pic.

Or here.



Or here.

[Gin and Tonic Sky]

The silence is always deafening on this thread anymore when Sarah Palin is mentioned, like Lula just did. Just saying . . .

Its simply hard to get to know someone when the press makes a sport out asking gotcha questions at any interview and then chopping the soundbites to death and growing the little molehill of their own creation into Mount Everest. We have a VP debate this week, lets see

As to the Kathleen Parker inteveriew cited. the NR doesnt force its editors to toe the paty line, like the daily Kos, NY Times, MSNBC. That was one persons opinion. So what? it was one persons opinion, not the conservative movment abandoning

In terms of Palin's future, if Obama wins the election which I expect , Palin will probalby be irrelevant. You will see four new leaders I think on the conservative side- Youll see Eric Cantnor and Paul Ryan in the House, Bobby Jindal from the statehouses. and Petreus on the foreign policy front.

I'd be willing to take a sizeable bet out on the GOP 2012 ticket beign either Petreus / Jindal or Jindal / Petreaus - with both of them trouncing an Obama who has proved too indecisive to protect the country and unable to solve the economic mess.

[The_Noble_Cause]

As to the Kathleen Parker inteveriew cited. the NR doesnt force its editors to toe the paty line, like the daily Kos, NY Times, MSNBC.

Gotta love it.
MSNBC has had limited success with one liberal news program and now it is the bane of every Conservative's waking existence.
Where were these complaints when Michael Savage, Joe Scarborough, and Tucker Carlson all had their own news vehicles on the network?
As for the NY Times, which was instrumental in pushing the Iraq War, I see very little uniformity between what Frank Rich publishes and David Brooks' columns.

[Saint John]

Debates are obviously subjective but I think Obama got smoked last night. TNC, if you run for office I'll assassinate your bitch ass.

[Rick]

Debates are obviously subjective but I think Obama smoked McCain last night. TNC, if you run for office I'll vote for you sir.

There, fixed it for ya.

I've always wanted to do that.

[Saint John]

Debates are obviously subjective but I think Obama smoked McCain last night. TNC, if you run for office I'll vote for you sir.

There, fixed it for ya.

I've always wanted to do that.

lol

[classicstyxfan]

I think the best metric to judge the winner of the debate will be the polling taking place this weekend, if there is movement one way or the other, you will have your winner.

If nobodies mind was changed and there is no movement, we have a draw.

I know polls this time of year mean next to nothing regarding the eventual outcome, but it is the only "objective" way to measure who is the winner. we'll know soon enough.

[Lula]

as i said, i like the trend

http://www.pollster.com/

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... cain/#data

as for "gotcha questions" the woman is in a position to be second in command of a very powerful nation, she needs to be asked tough questions and actually answer them. she simply is not ready for this, not her fault.

[classicstyxfan]

Looks like winning 2 out of 3 of Ohio, Pennsylvaina and Florida is going to make 1 candidate or the other pretty hard to beat.

[Jana]

"Gotcha guestions"? Oh, I'm sorry, let's go easy on the little lady.

[classicstyxfan]

" I dunno.....I'll find out and git back to ya" isnt going to fly in the debate, thats for sure !


( p.s. look out for that Putin guy flying over our Alaskan airspace !!!! )

[Rick]

I would never Rick Roll you, not in this thread anyway. But I'll damn sure.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65I0HNvTDH4

[treetopovskaya]

BINGO!!

The silence is always deafening on this thread anymore when Sarah Palin is mentioned, like Lula just did. Just saying . . .

Its simply hard to get to know someone when the press makes a sport out asking gotcha questions at any interview and then chopping the soundbites to death and growing the little molehill of their own creation into Mount Everest. We have a VP debate this week, lets see

As to the Kathleen Parker inteveriew cited. the NR doesnt force its editors to toe the paty line, like the daily Kos, NY Times, MSNBC. That was one persons opinion. So what? it was one persons opinion, not the conservative movment abandoning

In terms of Palin's future, if Obama wins the election which I expect , Palin will probalby be irrelevant. You will see four new leaders I think on the conservative side- Youll see Eric Cantnor and Paul Ryan in the House, Bobby Jindal from the statehouses. and Petreus on the foreign policy front.

I'd be willing to take a sizeable bet out on the GOP 2012 ticket beign either Petreus / Jindal or Jindal / Petreaus - with both of them trouncing an Obama who has proved too indecisive to protect the country and unable to solve the economic mess.

[treetopovskaya]

what you didn't see is mccain knocking bush down & shoving his face into the cake. i think it's on yt. }:C))

You go to the school of Letterman in taking things out of context????? Give me a fuckin break. Feed the bullshit "vote by soundbite and spin" society.

Doesn't look like their relationship was "nasty" in the above pic.

Or here.



Or here.

[Rick]

While I agree with some of what Palin says, I don't think she's sturdy enough to handle the second most important job in this country.

I don't know anything about the Rick Davis situation, but when queried on it, she looks like a deer caught in headlights.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbg6hF0nShQ

[Gin and Tonic Sky]

"Gotcha guestions"? Oh, I'm sorry, let's go easy on the little lady.

Um ...no substantive issues questions about policy are ok - If I was an anchor I dbe asking questions like?
1- Would you suport a free trade agreement for Columbia and please explain why?
2 Should the US abandon six party talks as a framework for dealing with N Korea and go to single one and one negotiatons and whats your view of that situation given the fact that North Korean missiles could theoretically hit Alaska some day ?
3. If McCain died in office what kind of judges would you put on the supreme court and why would you choose them ?

those kind of questions ought to be asked and scrutinised very closely and agressively Intead plrobably because the likes of Kate Couric are too danm stupid to think that deep you get questions like

"You just mentioned McCain backed regulation of Fannie Mae in 2005. Despite the fact that that is the most important regulation he supported and the most revelevant point, give me specific examples of other regulation he has supported." Effectively trying to trip her up on a fact instead of asking substantive questions over policy. Of course I suppose those type of questions wouldn't be so bad if they didn't play back a mere 10 seconds of the soundbite, as half the people in the word dont care enought to find out anymore than they find out from 30 minutes of nightly news.

[treetopovskaya]

what matt said. }:C)

"Gotcha guestions"? Oh, I'm sorry, let's go easy on the little lady.

Um ...no substantive issues questions about policy are ok - If I was an anchor I dbe asking questions like?
1- Would you suport a free trade agreement for Columbia and please explain why?
2 Should the US abandon six party talks as a framework for dealing with N Korea and go to single one and one negotiatons and whats your view of that situation given the fact that North Korean missiles could theoretically hit Alaska some day ?
3. If McCain died in office what kind of judges would you put on the supreme court and why would you choose them ?

those kind of questions ought to be asked and scrutinised very closely and agressively Intead plrobably because the likes of Kate Couric are too danm stupid to think that deep you get questions like

"You just mentioned McCain backed regulation of Fannie Mae in 2005. Despite the fact that that is the most important regulation he supported and the most revelevant point, give me specific examples of other regulation he has supported." Effectively trying to trip her up on a fact instead of asking substantive questions over policy. Of course I suppose those type of questions wouldn't be so bad if they didn't play back a mere 10 seconds of the soundbite, as half the people in the word dont care enought to find out anymore than they find out from 30 minutes of nightly news.

[The_Noble_Cause]

"Gotcha guestions"? Oh, I'm sorry, let's go easy on the little lady.

Um ...no substantive issues questions about policy are ok - If I was an anchor I dbe asking questions like?
1- Would you suport a free trade agreement for Columbia and please explain why?
2 Should the US abandon six party talks as a framework for dealing with N Korea and go to single one and one negotiatons and whats your view of that situation given the fact that North Korean missiles could theoretically hit Alaska some day ?
3. If McCain died in office what kind of judges would you put on the supreme court and why would you choose them ?

those kind of questions ought to be asked and scrutinised very closely and agressively Intead plrobably because the likes of Kate Couric are too danm stupid to think that deep you get questions like

"You just mentioned McCain backed regulation of Fannie Mae in 2005. Despite the fact that that is the most important regulation he supported and the most revelevant point, give me specific examples of other regulation he has supported." Effectively trying to trip her up on a fact instead of asking substantive questions over policy. Of course I suppose those type of questions wouldn't be so bad if they didn't play back a mere 10 seconds of the soundbite, as half the people in the word dont care enought to find out anymore than they find out from 30 minutes of nightly news.

Palin had just finished boasting of McCain's record of oversight and regulation - what is wrong with asking for specifics?
The fact that Palin herself raised the point would lead most to think she would at least be knowledgeable on the subject.
And if she isn't, is she merely reciting things by rote?
Judging from the interview, I don't think Palin is mentally equipped to answer any of your much-tougher alternate questions either.

Last night Biden was on every major network, whereas Palin was forbidden from appearaning on any by the McCain camp.
That's not liberal media bias, that's called monday morning buyer's remorse.

[Enigma869]

she looks like a deer caught in headlights.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbg6hF0nShQ

That's THE problem with Puppet Palin...She ALWAYS looks like a deer caught in the headlights!


John from Boston

[Lula]

she looks like a deer caught in headlights.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbg6hF0nShQ

That's THE problem with Puppet Palin...She ALWAYS looks like a deer caught in the headlights!


John from Boston

wow, just wow

[Saint John]

I'd like her to put her headlights in my face.

[conversationpc]

she looks like a deer caught in headlights.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbg6hF0nShQ

That's THE problem with Puppet Palin...She ALWAYS looks like a deer caught in the headlights!


John from Boston

wow, just wow

Her voice is REALLY, REALLY beginning to annoy me.

[Rick]

she looks like a deer caught in headlights.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbg6hF0nShQ

That's THE problem with Puppet Palin...She ALWAYS looks like a deer caught in the headlights!


John from Boston

wow, just wow

Her voice is REALLY, REALLY beginning to annoy me.

Couric or Palin? Both equally, I think.

[conversationpc]

she looks like a deer caught in headlights.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbg6hF0nShQ

That's THE problem with Puppet Palin...She ALWAYS looks like a deer caught in the headlights!


John from Boston

wow, just wow

Her voice is REALLY, REALLY beginning to annoy me.

Couric or Palin? Both equally, I think.

I don't like Couric, either, but Palin's accent is like nails on a chalkboard.

[Rick]

she looks like a deer caught in headlights.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbg6hF0nShQ

That's THE problem with Puppet Palin...She ALWAYS looks like a deer caught in the headlights!


John from Boston

wow, just wow

Her voice is REALLY, REALLY beginning to annoy me.

Couric or Palin? Both equally, I think.

I don't like Couric, either, but Palin's accent is like nails on a chalkboard.

It's amazing how her popularity has waned.