The 2008 US Presidential Election Thread

[conversationpc]

It was nice to see Joe get a little choked up about his kids. Nothing wrong with a guy getting emotional like that.

[Rhiannon]

Yeah, I'd call it a draw to be honest. Neither has appeared terribly knowledgeable or impressive, but neither has appeared terrible like Edwards did. They've both looked bad at points tonight, I don't think either has scored a knockout on any given question/topic.

Like McCain v. Obama the other night, I give Joe points for solidarity and elder status.
Might give him a slight edge, not sure.

I feel ya.

Quit giving sympathy points to the elderly!! Biden looked constipated. After 8 years of staring at Cheney and 8 years before that of staring at Gore, I'm tired of VPs who look so damn miserable!

[conversationpc]

I like Palin and it bugs me.

Would you like to have her ass handed to you?

Absolutely, as long as it's still connected to the rest of her.

[Ehwmatt]

Yeah, I'd call it a draw to be honest. Neither has appeared terribly knowledgeable or impressive, but neither has appeared terrible like Edwards did. They've both looked bad at points tonight, I don't think either has scored a knockout on any given question/topic.

Like McCain v. Obama the other night, I give Joe points for solidarity and elder status.
Might give him a slight edge, not sure.

I feel ya.

Quit giving sympathy points to the elderly!! Biden looked constipated. After 8 years of staring at Cheney and 8 years before that of staring at Gore, I'm tired of VPs who look so damn miserable!

Being totally serious here, has Biden had some Schon work on his face? Something looked so off about his one eye.

[iceberg]

i'll bet one person said something.

1/2 said HELL YEA!
the other 1/2 said NO WAY!

and decades of debate ensued

[Lula]

sorry... but palin can't help she has an accent. kinda lame to even bring it up. that's all you got? sad. }:C)

I like Palin and it bugs me. I also cringed when she said nook-yoo-ler like Bush. Ugh! Other than that, she did a great job.

yeah, work on pronunciation. she did a fine job. joe was wise to not take her bait as she challenged him. he was quite composed

[7 Wishes]

There is something so satisfying to me about how much this woman gets under liberals' skin.

The reason is simple. The female tuna tasters of the opposite party know that they don't have a shot at licking her envelope.

LMFAO!!!!

[Barb]

Yeah, I'd call it a draw to be honest. Neither has appeared terribly knowledgeable or impressive, but neither has appeared terrible like Edwards did. They've both looked bad at points tonight, I don't think either has scored a knockout on any given question/topic.

Like McCain v. Obama the other night, I give Joe points for solidarity and elder status.
Might give him a slight edge, not sure.

I feel ya.

Quit giving sympathy points to the elderly!! Biden looked constipated. After 8 years of staring at Cheney and 8 years before that of staring at Gore, I'm tired of VPs who look so damn miserable!

Being totally serious here, has Biden had some Schon work on his face? Something looked so off about his one eye.

Can you imagine him, John Kerry and Chris Dodd all standing next to each other? Scary.

[Rhiannon]

Being totally serious here, has Biden had some Schon work on his face? Something looked so off about his one eye.

He has a permanent "stink eye". Better equipped to give Palin dirties when she's talking about mavericks for the 7,283rd time.

[Voyager]

Yeah, I'd call it a draw to be honest. Neither has appeared terribly knowledgeable or impressive, but neither has appeared terrible like Edwards did. They've both looked bad at points tonight, I don't think either has scored a knockout on any given question/topic.

Like McCain v. Obama the other night, I give Joe points for solidarity and elder status.
Might give him a slight edge, not sure.

I feel ya.

Quit giving sympathy points to the elderly!! Biden looked constipated. After 8 years of staring at Cheney and 8 years before that of staring at Gore, I'm tired of VPs who look so damn miserable!

I thought Joe looked happy. He is not a Dick Cheney that's for sure... Joe has a great sense of humor, and is usually very cordial. Now I will agree about Cheney... looking at him is like look at death warmed over.

[iceberg]

Being totally serious here, has Biden had some Schon work on his face? Something looked so off about his one eye.

He has a permanent "stink eye". Better equipped to give Palin dirties when she's talking about mavericks for the 7,283rd time.

a politician was repetitive?

i'll never be the same.

[Jana]

No, I think Palin really didn't show nerves and handled herself well. I still don't think she should be a heartbeat away from the presidency. He should have picked Romney. But Biden, I came away very impressed. To me, and this is just my opinion, he directly answered every question and didn't skirt around them, which she did at times.

[7 Wishes]

Yeah, I'd call it a draw to be honest. Neither has appeared terribly knowledgeable or impressive, but neither has appeared terrible like Edwards did. They've both looked bad at points tonight, I don't think either has scored a knockout on any given question/topic.

Wrong. Biden, if anything, knows TOO much and talks TOO much about it. She doesn't know shit outside of what she's been force-fed by the Rovites. Biden clearly won, but because the expectations were so low, I think her performance helped the McCain ticket.

She gave NO specifics about ANYTHING, and NEVER factually refuted the (false) notion that McCain's policies differ from those of W.

[treetopovskaya]

nitpick away... it's what libs do best.

[Uno_up]

okay, what is going on with mccain??? he voted for the bailout bill last night with all of its pork and has now stated he thinks bush should veto the bill. he says the bill puts us on the brink of an economic disaster. what is he doing??

any comments?

dean and i saw a clip this evening from an interview with mika on morning joe. anyone else?

Late to this thread....but, they're trying to rescue our economy???...what are these doing in the bill? Someone's not going to vote for it unless one of these is in it?


Increase in limit on cover over of rum excise tax to Puerto Rico and
the Virgin Islands.

Extension and modification of duty suspension on wool products; wool
research fund; wool duty refunds.

Exemption from excise tax for certain wooden arrows designed for
use by children.

Income averaging for amounts received in connection with the Exxon
Valdez litigation.

[Lula]

No, I think Palin really didn't show nerves and handled herself well. I still don't think she should be a heartbeat away from the presidency. He should have picked Romney. But Biden, I came away very impressed. To me, and this is just my opinion, he directly answered every question and didn't skirt around them, which she did at times.

i agree

[Ehwmatt]

Yeah, I'd call it a draw to be honest. Neither has appeared terribly knowledgeable or impressive, but neither has appeared terrible like Edwards did. They've both looked bad at points tonight, I don't think either has scored a knockout on any given question/topic.

Wrong. Biden, if anything, knows TOO much and talks TOO much about it. She doesn't know shit outside of what she's been force-fed by the Rovites. Biden clearly won, but because the expectations were so low, I think her performance helped the McCain ticket.

She gave NO specifics about ANYTHING, and NEVER factually refuted the (false) notion that McCain's policies differ from those of W.

I didn't hear Biden shaking any walls. They were both regurgitating talking points.

[Rhiannon]

She gave NO specifics about ANYTHING

Pretty much my sentiment on Obama.

[7 Wishes]

Can you imagine him, John Kerry and Chris Dodd all standing next to each other? Scary.

Not as terrifying as Cheney, Wolfowitz, Ashcroft, Rove, and Bush all in the same room at the same time...except that happened on dozens of occasions.

[SteveForever]

I appreciated that Biden didn't condescend as an older person or as a man, he did well.
Sarah looked beautiful, is much better to look at and listen to than Joe and she gets my vote
for tonight! She's a bright woman and she can do the job, no problem.

[iceberg]

you mean 2 politicians got together and people are still divided?

the horror.

i'm gonna go recover to some journey.

[iceberg]

I appreciated that Biden didn't condescend as an older person or as a man, he did well.
Sarah looked beautiful, is much better to look at and listen to than Joe and she gets my vote
for tonight! She's a bright woman and she can do the job, no problem.

sarah is not a politician. she's a person trying to be one.

she's got my interest. obama and palin became the new kids on the block this election. i wanna see what both do in their careers.

[Barb]

Can you imagine him, John Kerry and Chris Dodd all standing next to each other? Scary.

Not as terrifying as Cheney, Wolfowitz, Ashcroft, Rove, and Bush all in the same room at the same time...except that happened on dozens of occasions.

I was talking about their shiny, plastic faces. You need to lighten up a little dude.

[7 Wishes]

nitpick away... it's what libs do best.

Right. "Nitpicking."

It's called facts. There are SO MANY that factor against McCain/Palin and Bush that you have to start SOMEWHERE.

[Jana]

Ehwmatt, you don't have to like Biden or his views, but not to think he's knowledgeable on foreign affairs from that debate, I just don't get. He was very impressive on foreign policy.

[7 Wishes]

I was talking about their shiny, plastic faces. You need to lighten up a little dude.

Well, in that case, I agree...although the guys on my list aren't exactly handsome young men, either.

[conversationpc]

It's called facts. There are SO MANY that factor against Obama/Biden that you have to start SOMEWHERE.

Fixed

[Rhiannon]

obama and palin became the new kids on the block this election.

NKOTB? Obama do any falsetto?

[Ehwmatt]

Ehwmatt, you don't have to like Biden or his views, but not to think he's knowledgeable on foreign affairs from that debate, I just don't get. He was very impressive on foreign policy.

If he did, I lost it in the Mcain=Bush talking point they've repeated ad nauseum throughout this campaign.

[The_Noble_Cause]

nitpick away... it's what libs do best.

Weren't you just complaining about Obama's manner of speach being too boring?
Are you aware of your own hypocrisy, do you simply not care, which is it?