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Jana wrote:Great Skylorde, the Republican Party is going to have their Great White Hope, Sarah Palin, run for President next election.
Jana wrote:Great Skylorde, the Republican Party is going to have their Great White Hope, Sarah Palin, run for President next election. Now, that's something to look forward to for the nation. Thanks. You've given me a lot of comfort.![]()
The_Noble_Cause wrote:NY Times Magazine this weekend has a piece on McCain's campaign.
This behind-the-scenes account of how Palin was picked is especially revealing.
"Having interviewed several of the Senator's chief aides, Draper details the process by which McCain ultimately chose his running mate (New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg was surprisingly high on the list). And the decision may have been even more impulsive than initially thought. Gov. Sarah Palin, who had never been on the VP shortlist, was advanced at the last minute by Schmidt and Rick Davis, and was picked after a less-than-hour-long chat in with McCain at his ranch in Arizona."
Enigma869 wrote:Palin will NEVER be the Republican nominee. That dopey broad will never get through the primary election. Most honest Republicans believe she is every bit of a disaster that most Democrats know she is. The 4 people on this board who think she's Einstein won't be enough to win her any significant votes!
Enigma869 wrote:Now it comes out that Ms. "Exectutive", Puppet Palin charged the people of Alaska travel expenses, for her gaggle of children. The children were supposedly on "official business"!
http://news.aol.com/elections/article/p ... 1200696171
strangegrey wrote:The fact remains that the republican party needs a HARD reboot. McCain doesn't provide that. In fact, riding the status quo does NOTHING short of prevent that....which I find just as or more offensive than an obama presidency.
There are at least 50% of the current republican leadership that needs to flushed...if not more. They're not carrying out their jobs beholden to true conservative values.
Case in point, a friend of my wife's...who's a bleeding heart if you ever saw one....said something along the lines of "Fiscal Conservatives? Since 1992, I call those people Democrats"
Well, if that isn't a glaring indictment of the fact that true conservatism has either been abandoned by it's own party, adopted by democrats, or a mixture of both...I don't know what to call it.
Another 4 years of Bushonomics, under McPain, would result in a far larger national debt than under Obama.....People like to bitch and moan that Obama's fiscal strategy would be more "spending spending spending"....I find that laughable. The ones doing the massive spending over the past 8 years have been the republicans.
This isn't a disputable issue. It's a fucking fact.
It's been driven home hard by the fact that in order to pass the emergency economic stabilization act of 2008, 150 billion dollars of pork spending was needed just to secure the extra votes in the republican side of the house....if that's not a WTF moment for the conservatives in this country, I can't tell you what is.
Fact Finder wrote:Ok, first Biden talks about crisis..then Madeline Halfbright agrees..and somehow missed was this gem from Gen.Powell Sunday on meet the press...."Theres going to be a crisis which will come along on the 21st,
22nd of January which we don't even know about right now!"
-Colin Powell 10/19/2008
About the 2:40 mark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LDBOPcHpeo
strangegrey wrote:Case in point, a friend of my wife's...who's a bleeding heart if you ever saw one....said something along the lines of "Fiscal Conservatives? Since 1992, I call those people Democrats"
strangegrey wrote:Another 4 years of Bushonomics, under McPain, would result in a far larger national debt than under Obama.....People like to bitch and moan that Obama's fiscal strategy would be more "spending spending spending"....I find that laughable. The ones doing the massive spending over the past 8 years have been the republicans.
"Theres going to be a crisis which will come along on the 21st,
22nd of January which we don't even know about right now!"
-Colin Powell 10/19/2008
Skylorde wrote:"Theres going to be a crisis which will come along on the 21st,
22nd of January which we don't even know about right now!"
-Colin Powell 10/19/2008
Ummm, what in the fuck is he talking about and why are we hearing armageddon like doom and gloom from the left? Are Colon's comments beyond simple speculation, hinting at the fact he knows something the rest of us don't?
conversationpc wrote:Case in point, a friend of my wife's...who's a bleeding heart if you ever saw one....said something along the lines of "Fiscal Conservatives? Since 1992, I call those people Democrats"
Well, if that isn't a glaring indictment of the fact that true conservatism has either been abandoned by it's own party, adopted by democrats, or a mixture of both...I don't know what to call it.
This I disagree with. I think the Dems have pretty much stayed where they are if they haven't moved even further to the left (see Barney Frank's recent comments about drastically increasing spending and ignoring the deficit).
Gin and Tonic Sky wrote:Couldnt agree withe Skylorde, Conversationpc, and Strangegrey more.
Got an absentee ballot the oher day. MN sends em by email. I printed one copy out filling in Bob Barr and the Libertarians in and the other with McCains name in. Couldnt for the life of me decide which one to throw away and which one to send in
McCain wins-you get the same creep to big govt an no one stands up to it.
Obama wins -you get there in fast foward mode , and who knows what other damage gets done to the country.
In my mind the "who knows what other damage gets done to the country element" has to be the decider.
strangegrey wrote:The points made by Goldberg (and subsequent quotes by Peggy Noonan) are clear. Bush destroyed the republican party. He dismantled it, set people within it to feed on eachother...it's an ugly aftermath of 8 years of WRONG republican party policy. What is also stated in the article is a point made by Rush Limbaugh that I heartily agree with....in that a McCain presidency would likely destroy this party further.
conversationpc wrote:Skylorde wrote:"Theres going to be a crisis which will come along on the 21st,
22nd of January which we don't even know about right now!"
-Colin Powell 10/19/2008
Ummm, what in the fuck is he talking about and why are we hearing armageddon like doom and gloom from the left? Are Colon's comments beyond simple speculation, hinting at the fact he knows something the rest of us don't?
Many foreign policy experts that I've heard have said that there's a high probability that Israel will do something about Iran perhaps BEFORE the new President is inaugurated. If that happens, the entire Middle East could blow up, perhaps even literally. If that happens, God help us, because it will effect almost everything worldwide.
Tito wrote:Anybody else (republicans specifically) think it would've been better for the republican party if Kerry would've won in 2004. I think so. He and probably the democratic majority in congress would be so dead in the water right now.
Tito wrote:Anybody else (republicans specifically) think it would've been better for the republican party if Kerry would've won in 2004. I think so. He and probably the democratic majority in congress would be so dead in the water right now.
strangegrey wrote:I'm not sure I entirely agree with it either...there are some democrats of a rank/file variety that are very much old school carter-esque democrats, that are as fiscally irresponsible as a tech-hungry high school student with daddy's gold card.
strangegrey wrote:This artucle reflects my current views on the state of the republican party to a huge T. While I realize most liberal/democrats that contribute to this forum either don't like Jonah Goldberg or if they don't know him, likely don't read NRO. However, I'll submit that they'll find some worth in reading the article as well.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=OWVhOTY3MGYwM2U3YzYwMjg5YTgxNDI0ODkxMjQyMDY
The points made by Goldberg (and subsequent quotes by Peggy Noonan) are clear. Bush destroyed the republican party. He dismantled it, set people within it to feed on eachother...it's an ugly aftermath of 8 years of WRONG republican party policy. What is also stated in the article is a point made by Rush Limbaugh that I heartily agree with....in that a McCain presidency would likely destroy this party further.
strangegrey wrote:conversationpc wrote:Skylorde wrote:"Theres going to be a crisis which will come along on the 21st,
22nd of January which we don't even know about right now!"
-Colin Powell 10/19/2008
Ummm, what in the fuck is he talking about and why are we hearing armageddon like doom and gloom from the left? Are Colon's comments beyond simple speculation, hinting at the fact he knows something the rest of us don't?
Many foreign policy experts that I've heard have said that there's a high probability that Israel will do something about Iran perhaps BEFORE the new President is inaugurated. If that happens, the entire Middle East could blow up, perhaps even literally. If that happens, God help us, because it will effect almost everything worldwide.
Well, that scenario in of itself is a terrifying scenario...and sadly, will drag us into the thick of it, right behind Isreal. If such an attitude wouldn't have unintended consequences, I would be a huge proponent of giving the arab world the isolation they so desperately desire.
However, having said all of that, I find it hard to believe that they are refering to Isreal's intentions with such certainty. Especially if there's enough people out there putting 2 and 2 together. That's dreadfully irresponsible.
strangegrey wrote:Well, that scenario in of itself is a terrifying scenario...and sadly, will drag us into the thick of it, right behind Isreal. If such an attitude wouldn't have unintended consequences, I would be a huge proponent of giving the arab world the isolation they so desperately desire.
However, having said all of that, I find it hard to believe that they are refering to Isreal's intentions with such certainty. Especially if there's enough people out there putting 2 and 2 together. That's dreadfully irresponsible.
What normal people do when the "neighborhood" goes to shit....move.Skylorde wrote:If you were Israel, what would you do?
whirlwind wrote:
The Meek Shall Inherit the Earth
Psalms 25:8 Good and upright is the LORD: therefore will he teach sinners in the way.
9 The meek will he guide in judgment: and the meek will he teach his way.
Psalms 25:12 What man is he that feareth the LORD? him shall he teach in the way that he shall choose.
13 His soul shall dwell at ease; and his seed shall inherit the earth.
Psalms 37:7 Rest in the LORD, and wait patiently for him: fret not thyself because of him who prospereth in his way, because of the man who bringeth wicked devices to pass.
8 Cease from anger, and forsake wrath: fret not thyself in any wise to do evil.
9 For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth.
10 For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be.
11 But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.
Psalms 37:18 The LORD knoweth the days of the upright: and their inheritance shall be for ever.
Psalms 37:22 For such as be blessed of him shall inherit the earth; and they that be cursed of him shall be cut off.
Matthew 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
I wish that I knew who are considered the meek. I'll join that party.
Fact Finder wrote:Just last week the Foreign Policy teams of both candidates were called in by the FBI to be vetted. First time that's ever happen that I recall.
What were they possibly told is the question?
There have been particularly intensive efforts to make sure Mr Obama has his national security team in place, not just because he is widely expected to win the election on November 4, but because intelligence analysts believe America's enemies are more likely to try to take advantage of Mr Obama's international inexperience than they would of Mr McCain.
Skylorde wrote:strangegrey wrote:Well, that scenario in of itself is a terrifying scenario...and sadly, will drag us into the thick of it, right behind Isreal. If such an attitude wouldn't have unintended consequences, I would be a huge proponent of giving the arab world the isolation they so desperately desire.
However, having said all of that, I find it hard to believe that they are refering to Isreal's intentions with such certainty. Especially if there's enough people out there putting 2 and 2 together. That's dreadfully irresponsible.
Frank, seriously. It's not a matter of IF but a matter of WHEN Israel attacks Iran. It would be suicidal for Israel to sit back and wait to "pushed into the sea". Israel was ready to take out Iran's uranium enrichment facilities this past year, Bush shut them down. Our influence over Israel is steadily decreasing. At some point, the urgency to stop Iran will be stronger than caring what America thinks about a military operation against Iran. I'm absolutely convinced Israel is going to pull the trigger.
If you were Israel, what would you do?
Gunbot wrote:If Israel brings on it's own end, we need to let it play through and totally stand away from them. What is Israel anyway? A colony of white Europeans who were dumped into a land that of their choosing, and basically throwing out the power sharing mandate they were supposed to have with the local Palestine population and becoming colonizers and occupiers by using terrorist tactics (under the guidance of a very young Sharon) against uneducated tribesmen and peasants . Being Euro whites and also benefiting from a gluttony of guilt from the rest of civilized Europe over the actions of World War two, the Jews were able to create their own little Holy empire in the middle of Islam. Looking at past colonizers who set up shop in the third world, the only survivor still viable is South Africa and even they have had to change their mindset radically. We can no longer jeopardize our own security worrying about what becomes of the Jewish State. They are strong enough to take care of themselves. Let the chips fall where they may.
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