OT: Pacquiao vs. De la Hoya 12/6

[DracIsBack]

. Chavez is a paper tiger. Always has been.

So if he were standing next to you, would you have the stones to say that to his face?

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Yeah, the pic is a bit "pronounced" in terms of reach advantage but I expect that the speed will come to play. 6 years younger is just as much of an advantage to Pac as the 4 inches in height or 5 inches in reach to DLH.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/8954 ... /show_full

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/8920 ... cquiao-win

http://pacquiaovideo.com/

In that picture Manny looks like he is being crucified. Very apt!

[Don]

Yeah, the pic is a bit "pronounced" in terms of reach advantage but I expect that the speed will come to play. 6 years younger is just as much of an advantage to Pac as the 4 inches in height or 5 inches in reach to DLH.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/8954 ... /show_full

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/8920 ... cquiao-win

http://pacquiaovideo.com/

In that picture Manny looks like he is being crucified. Very apt!

Does God condone boxing? Hmmm...

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Wow...just read that Pacquiao is guaranteed 11 million and De La Hoya will most likely get at least 25 million.

That would be due to De La Hoya's Golden Boy Promotions promoting the event. The actual purse is split much more evenly - although weighed to Oscar's advantage. Still $11 million is a staggering amount for what essentially boils down to a nights work (discounting the months of preparation and training).

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Yeah, the pic is a bit "pronounced" in terms of reach advantage but I expect that the speed will come to play. 6 years younger is just as much of an advantage to Pac as the 4 inches in height or 5 inches in reach to DLH.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/8954 ... /show_full

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/8920 ... cquiao-win

http://pacquiaovideo.com/

In that picture Manny looks like he is being crucified. Very apt!

Does God condone boxing? Hmmm...

As it's one of the only times you will ever see grown men openly pray or thank God on television outside of religious programming the odds are pretty good that he/she does.

[Don]

Wow...just read that Pacquiao is guaranteed 11 million and De La Hoya will most likely get at least 25 million.

That would be due to De La Hoya's Golden Boy Promotions promoting the event. The actual purse is split much more evenly - although weighed to Oscar's advantage. Still $11 million is a staggering amount for what essentially boils down to a nights work (discounting the months of preparation and training).

Manny would have to fight and win 3 fights to get this amount of money. Everyone can hate on De La Hoya, but he is the meal ticket here. Without him, boxing would have dropped into the ghetto, not that it's not heading there anyway. PKA and MMA have pushed boxing into the backrow of fighting sports.

[Maui Tom]

just forked over the dough for this....I think Pac will be so relentless that he overcomes the weight and reach disadvantage...no Mayweather shit in this one...they will be throwing from the opening bell...

[ttango1]

Told you!

[Don]

Oscar pulls a Michael Spinks, takes the money and quits. There was a free live internet feed so I hope not everyone gave money to De La Hoya by paying for that crap. Oscar getting 25 million for that? Unbelievable. You got screwed Manny.
Oh, and thanks Oscar, after keeping boxing viable, you single handedly shit on it tonight by quiting and robbing the fans of not only their money but also a chance of seeing you get knocked out by your opponent.

Boxing is officialy Dead.

[wednesday's child]

Told you Oscar was a fucking pussy.

Big kudos...MAJOR kudos to Manny.
I didnt think you could really beat him senseless,
but you kicked the gold out of the "Golden Boy".

[ttango1]

Hey Wech...

It's now totally.. OLDEN BOY!
Recognize.

ttango1= A PAC Fan!

[Don]

Told you Oscar was a fucking pussy.

Big kudos...MAJOR kudos to Manny.
I didnt think you could really beat him senseless,
but you kicked the gold out of the "Golden Boy".

Oscar was smart. He didn't let his fans see him get knocked out. He was asked if he wanted to continue and he declined.He isn't golden anymore but he just stole a shitload of money (but not as much as was estimated). If Manny ever wants to make this kind of money again, he should join GB Productions. Oscar does know how to make his guy's major cash.

[Maui Tom]

whatever...I enjoyed watching Oscar get his ass kicked....

[Don]

whatever...I enjoyed watching Oscar get his ass kicked....

I'm glad you got your money's worth, as that is exactly what happened.

[stargzr210]

Told you!

and he still looks guapo after the fight! lol....i knew he's gonna win!

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WOW!

Oscar got old tonight - right there in the ring. Came in lighter than predicated (by almost 14 pounds), no defense, no head movement and he was constantly hit and turned by an outstanding and lightning fast Pac-Man and threw nothing back, NOTHING! This was a total shut out in the vein of Bernard Hopkins vs. Kelly Pavlik only Pavlik had the balls to actually finish the fight and attempt to fight back.

Manny was in great shape, looked granite hard and fought an outstanding tactical fight.

Oscar should keep on promoting and doing his sterling charity work and avoid ever taking another unnecessary beating like that again. Man, he got old...fast.

Congratulations to Manny - what a dream result against almost every predication!

[Don]

WOW!

Oscar got old tonight - right there in the ring. Came in lighter than predicated (by almost 14 pounds), no defense, no head movement and he was constantly hit and turned by an outstanding and lightning fast Pac-Man and threw nothing back, NOTHING! This was a total shut out in the vein of Bernard Hopkins vs. Kelly Pavlik only Pavlik had the balls to actually finish the fight and attempt to fight back.

Manny was in great shape, looked granite hard and fought an outstanding tactical fight.

Oscar should keep on promoting and doing his sterling charity work and avoid ever taking another unnecessary beating like that again. Man, he got old...fast.

Congratulations to Manny - what a dream result against almost every predication!

Exactly,
Oscar,
just be a promoter and continue with your charity projects. Since you and Perry both have more money than God and you have done some spanish music albums, maybe a duet for charity could be done.

[finalfight]

WOW!

Oscar got old tonight - right there in the ring. Came in lighter than predicated (by almost 14 pounds), no defense, no head movement and he was constantly hit and turned by an outstanding and lightning fast Pac-Man and threw nothing back, NOTHING! This was a total shut out in the vein of Bernard Hopkins vs. Kelly Pavlik only Pavlik had the balls to actually finish the fight and attempt to fight back.

Manny was in great shape, looked granite hard and fought an outstanding tactical fight.

Oscar should keep on promoting and doing his sterling charity work and avoid ever taking another unnecessary beating like that again. Man, he got old...fast.

Congratulations to Manny - what a dream result against almost every predication!

Exactly,
Oscar,
just be a promoter and continue with your charity projects. Since you and Perry both have more money than God and you have done some spanish music albums, maybe a duet for charity could be done.

Well his heart certainly doesn't appear to be in boxing anymore so maybe crooning is the way forward (once his lips have gone back to normal size)! Oscar and Steve together...two all time greats with diminished skills - sounds like a perfect match!

[Don]

Having been to some wild parties in the province, I wouldn't want to be Lassie tonight in the Philippines. Barbecue aso and San Miguel beer, yum,yum.

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Check out the topic name and first post on the link below. It was posted on another pro boxers website on December 3rd 2008. -

http://www.marcobarrera.com/forum/index ... #msg273540

40-1 for Pac in the 8th!

Weird.

[Smoothie]

The pac-dela hoya fight should be investigated. Dela hoya bet a cool 20 mil on pac, took a fall, and at 2-1 odds made a whopping 40 mil extra. How's that for retirement

[Saint John]

Pacquiao fought as good of a technical fight as I've ever seen. He had an impeccable game plan, stuck to it and systematically beat the rice and beans out of an aging fighter. What impressed me the most was the way he unselfishly attacked the body when he was well ahead and made De La Hoya immobile. After that Oscar was nothing more than a heavy bag. And like a heavy bag he couldn't hit back. Those body shots eventually brought Oscar's hands down and then he attacked the face. Brilliant game plan, brilliant execution and a brilliant result. Pacquiao may get a 20+ million dollar payday if he can lure Mayweather out of retirement. What a fight that would be. Some Plokkers were nice enough to invite Tito and I over to their house. Watching the fight with 20 Pinoys was like being at the fight!!! Man, did it get loud.

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Pacquiao fought as good of a technical fight as I've ever seen. He had an impeccable game plan, stuck to it and systematically beat the rice and beans out of an aging fighter. What impressed me the most was the way he unselfishly attacked the body when he was well ahead and made De La Hoya immobile. After that Oscar was nothing more than a heavy bag. And like a heavy bag he couldn't hit back. Those body shots eventually brought Oscar's hands down and then he attacked the face. Brilliant game plan, brilliant execution and a brilliant result. Pacquiao may get a 20+ million dollar payday if he can lure Mayweather out of retirement. What a fight that would be. Some Plokkers were nice enough to invite Tito and I over to their house. Watching the fight with 20 Pinoys was like being at the fight!!! Man, did it get loud.

Oscars right eye was already closing at the end of round one. Both were reddened. Manny was systematically attacking the head with an unanswered double jab, hook combination. His jab slipped through Oscars guard and slammed into Oscar's face from almost the start. The body shots, when they came just added insult to injury.

This immobile De La Hoya was a better business man in this fight than he was a boxer. All credit to Manny for a fantastic technical display but in the end I think the Golden Boy invested in the result and dove like a fish.

Incidentally Oscar had pledged to pay Manny an additional $3 million dollars for every pound he came in over 147 and hit the scales at the official weigh in at 145. Manny weighed in at 142 having just left the gym at 145. Roach and Manny have both publicly stated that they felt the scales were doctored in fact you can see the disbelief in Roach's face when Manny's weight is announced. If Manny was 145 that would make Oscar at least 148. Oscar probably bet this additional cash, as well as a whole lot more, on a Round 8 stoppage with 40 to 1 odds.

De La Hoya has done a lot of good for the sport over the years and I am sure he thinks he is doing so now by elevating the Pac-Man's status and clearing the way for some mega money fights but the whole thing stinks.

On the other hand it is still possible that Oscar bet on himself and lost a whole bunch after becoming gun shy in the ring - as recently evidenced with the once great Roy Jones Jr taking a one sided beat down from the feather fisted Joe Calzaghe despite Slappy Joe being an easy target.

Either way my guess is Manny's next opponent will be Ricky Hatton.

[larryfromnextdoor]

systematically beat the rice and beans out

im using this phrase sometime tommorow.. funny man..

[Saint John]

Pacquiao fought as good of a technical fight as I've ever seen. He had an impeccable game plan, stuck to it and systematically beat the rice and beans out of an aging fighter. What impressed me the most was the way he unselfishly attacked the body when he was well ahead and made De La Hoya immobile. After that Oscar was nothing more than a heavy bag. And like a heavy bag he couldn't hit back. Those body shots eventually brought Oscar's hands down and then he attacked the face. Brilliant game plan, brilliant execution and a brilliant result. Pacquiao may get a 20+ million dollar payday if he can lure Mayweather out of retirement. What a fight that would be. Some Plokkers were nice enough to invite Tito and I over to their house. Watching the fight with 20 Pinoys was like being at the fight!!! Man, did it get loud.

Oscars right eye was already closing at the end of round one. Both were reddened. Manny was systematically attacking the head with an unanswered double jab, hook combination. His jab slipped through Oscars guard and slammed into Oscar's face from almost the start. The body shots, when they came just added insult to injury.

This immobile De La Hoya was a better business man in this fight than he was a boxer. All credit to Manny for a fantastic technical display but in the end I think the Golden Boy invested in the result and dove like a fish.

Incidentally Oscar had pledged to pay Manny an additional $3 million dollars for every pound he came in over 147 and hit the scales at the official weigh in at 145. Manny weighed in at 142 having just left the gym at 145. Roach and Manny have both publicly stated that they felt the scales were doctored in fact you can see the disbelief in Roach's face when Manny's weight is announced. If Manny was 145 that would make Oscar at least 148. Oscar probably bet this additional cash, as well as a whole lot more, on a Round 8 stoppage with 40 to 1 odds.

De La Hoya has done a lot of good for the sport over the years and I am sure he thinks he is doing so now by elevating the Pac-Man's status and clearing the way for some mega money fights but the whole thing stinks.

On the other hand it is still possible that Oscar bet on himself and lost a whole bunch after becoming gun shy in the ring - as recently evidenced with the once great Roy Jones Jr taking a one sided beat down from the feather fisted Joe Calzaghe despite Slappy Joe being an easy target.

Either way my guess is Manny's next opponent will be Ricky Hatton.

I agree with just about everything except Calzaghe being an easy target. No way, dude.

[Don]

systematically beat the rice and beans out

im using this phrase sometime tommorow.. funny man..

Do it in Spanish in a TexMex Restaurant, Tell the waiter if he doesn't get moving like Speedy Gonzales this is what you're gonna do to him. That will be some funny shit.

[Saint John]

Tell the waiter if he doesn't get moving like Speedy Gonzales

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxWocaWvmyY&feature=related

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I agree with just about everything except Calzaghe being an easy target. No way, dude.

He was in that fight. He came straight ahead and for the most part had Roy backed against the ropes or in a corner. It was completely frustrating when Calzaghe was goofing off and sticking his head through Roy's guard. You just knew if Roy's brain let him throw something back with his reflexes he would find the target but he just stayed immobile. I was literally shouting at the screen for Roy to throw anything back - even a head butt!

It was a sad end for RJJ and Calzaghe had yet another lucky escape. The man has the most padded record in boxing.

[Rick]

systematically beat the rice and beans out

im using this phrase sometime tommorow.. funny man..

Do it in Spanish in a TexMex Restaurant, Tell the waiter if he doesn't get moving like Speedy Gonzales this is what you're gonna do to him. That will be some funny shit.

Do that ONLY after the food has been delivered!

[Saint John]

I agree with just about everything except Calzaghe being an easy target. No way, dude.

He was in that fight. He came straight ahead and for the most part had Roy backed against the ropes or in a corner. It was completely frustrating when Calzaghe was goofing off and sticking his head through Roy's guard. You just knew if Roy's brain let him throw something back with his reflexes he would find the target but he just stayed immobile. I was literally shouting at the screen for Roy to throw anything back - even a head butt!

It was a sad end for RJJ and Calzaghe had yet another lucky escape. The man has the most padded record in boxing.

Roy's still somewhat fast, but he's completely lost his confidence and a lot like De La Hoya is afraid to pull the trigger. Calzaghe is extremely elusive and was doing what Jones used to do...when he could do it. Calzaghe is a great fighter and one extremely tough motherfucker. I've seen enough of his fights and he's gotten off of his ass more than a few times and punished his opponent. He's relentless.