OFFICIAL 2010-2011 NFL season & predictions thread:

[RedWingFan]

Josh McDaniels gone....WOO HOO!!!!

(Shut it, RWF, I've heard enough from you! )

I wish they would have given him another year! I loved what I saw out of Denver this year!

[Angel]

Josh McDaniels gone....WOO HOO!!!!

(Shut it, RWF, I've heard enough from you! )

I wish they would have given him another year! I loved what I saw out of Denver this year!

Haha, I know you did!

It's just crazy, last year at this time he was the Doogie Howser of football, this year he's more like the Dennis the Menace of football....but he's still nice to look at.

[S2M]

I take it that all the experts here that told me I was silly are slaving over their stoves, cooking up batches of crow. And its chow time! Let's go pundits....

[Enigma869]

I take it that all the experts here that told me I was silly are slaving over their stoves, cooking up batches of crow. And its chow time! Let's go pundits....

I would give you credit if you didn't have the Patriots winning by 10 touchdowns every week, kid. Sure, you predicted a beatdown, but again, it's the same prediction every week, regardless of who the opponent is. I didn't think the Patriots had ANY shot of scoring more than about 20 points on the Jets defense, so count me as stunned. It's still just one game, but if that defense ever learns how to play, they should definitely be a very formidable opponent and a tough out come playoff time. A one seed is still no guarantee. The Patriots still have to play Chicago and Green Bay as well as two divisional games against Buffalo and Miami. Luckily, the Jets still have to play Pittsburgh.

[Angel]

I take it that all the experts here that told me I was silly are slaving over their stoves, cooking up batches of crow. And its chow time! Let's go pundits....

I would give you credit if you didn't have the Patriots winning by 10 touchdowns every week, kid. Sure, you predicted a beatdown, but again, it's the same prediction every week, regardless of who the opponent is. I didn't think the Patriots had ANY shot of scoring more than about 20 points on the Jets defense, so count me as stunned. It's still just one game, but if that defense ever learns how to play, they should definitely be a very formidable opponent and a tough out come playoff time. A one seed is still no guarantee. The Patriots still have to play Chicago and Green Bay as well as two divisional games against Buffalo and Miami. Luckily, the Jets still have to play Pittsburgh.

JFB, that's a lot of useless babble-the entire game, every game, rests on the refs shoulders. It had nothing to do with offense, defense, special teams..nope, it's the men in stripes.

[S2M]

I take it that all the experts here that told me I was silly are slaving over their stoves, cooking up batches of crow. And its chow time! Let's go pundits....

I would give you credit if you didn't have the Patriots winning by 10 touchdowns every week, kid. Sure, you predicted a beatdown, but again, it's the same prediction every week, regardless of who the opponent is. I didn't think the Patriots had ANY shot of scoring more than about 20 points on the Jets defense, so count me as stunned. It's still just one game, but if that defense ever learns how to play, they should definitely be a very formidable opponent and a tough out come playoff time. A one seed is still no guarantee. The Patriots still have to play Chicago and Green Bay as well as two divisional games against Buffalo and Miami. Luckily, the Jets still have to play Pittsburgh.

I have the Patriots WINNING every week....if they can blow teams out - so be it. The Cleveland game was an anomaly. Hillis just had a career game. First Jets game - 2nd game of the league's youngest defense....this team is great, and the road to the SB goes through Foxborough.

[YoungJRNY]

Week 13 Power Rankings:

1. New England Patriots: Looks like the Pats hold their own destiny with home-field advantage throughout the AFC playoffs, which spells doom for everyone else inside of that AFC bubble but may be their own curse since the #1 seed historically never wins out-right for the title. Still, the Pats are the best ball club in the league, even with a 31st ranked defense that gives up the most yardage in all of the NFL. That's telling you something. Tom Brady will be league MVP.

2. Philadelphia Eagles: Michael Vick continues to chug along and is doing everything right for the Eagles bid to a championship. For all those years, Philly saw McNabb choke in Conference games and watch their Super Bowl chances go array. Could Vick be their calling card to Dallas? Possible.

3. Pittsburgh Steelers: Bloodied, battered and bruised, teams hate the Steelers because of one thing- they will ALWAYS continue to punch back in the face of adversity and hand you a beating of their own if you aren't careful. Ben Roethlisberger is a cripple engineering a paralyzed offensive unit, but yet, somehow STILL manages to get the job done against one of the fiercest defense's in the NFL. If Pittsburgh can land that #2 seed and land that bye, which they control, then it'll be a huge accomplishment that couldn't come at a better time.

4. Atlanta Falcons: The Falcons, every week just keep on keepin on. They might not win in dominating fashion and you might double take on how their possibly 10-2, but if they can beat New Orleans in their re-match and sweep them, then Matty Ice will do his best interpretation of Tom Brady. He never loses at home, which spells doom for the rest of the NFC within that conference bubble.

5. New Orleans Saints: The Super Bowl champs got a big whiff this season on how hard it is to really repeat as champions. Doesn't matter, they are on a 5 game win streak and seem to be catching the luck and breaks a team needs this time of the year. A huge showdown with the Falcons loom that could decide major fate within their place of repeating.

6. New York Giants: The Giants are primed for a playoff push that could see them very well in Dallas come February. They remain a physical team and look to be as balanced as they were in their Super Season back in 2007. They should be one of the class of the NFC when it's all said and done.

7. Chicago Bears: Everyone, including myself, is shocked to see the Bears put up a 9-3 record in the NFC North. Defense, defense, defense, and the Bears have plenty of it to make some noise in the playoffs. Too bad I think Jay Cutler is way too capable of throwing 4 picks in the playoffs rather than giving his team a chance to win in key situations in key games.


8. Baltimore Ravens: Baltimore has so many weapons around them that logic should have the Pats and Ravens swapped. The Ravens average a very low points per game average and never use their boat-load of talent to pile points on teams, which is a concern since this was the year the offense was supposed to be better than the defense. Not the case. They are now clinging to the 6th and final playoff wild-card spot in the AFC.


9. Green Bay Packers: The Pack, like many in this league, needs to find a way to knock off the men in front of them, and that is the Chicago Bears. The Packers have some key pieces to the puzzle that makes them an interesting choice to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl, so if they can keep it up and either win their division OR sneak in the playoffs, then they will be very scary to compete with.

10. Jacksonville Jaguars: The Jags are that sleeper team in the playoffs that scares me and SHOULD scare every team that enters the post-season. Maurice Jones-Drew is a small stature back that has bull-like power and gives Jacksonville that dimension of hard-ball that only a few can run in this league, and if JAX can keep that physical play up, they will be a tough team to go up against and are capable of bringing down anybody.



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11. Kansas City Chiefs: The New Arrowhead stadium could become the most feared stadium to play in the playoffs once more in the post-season. With the Chargers crapping all over themselves in the AFC WEST and overall AFC playoff hunt, it looks like the Chiefs have a date with the Oakland Raiders for the division, who's only 2 back with 4 to go. It's KC's to lose.

12. N.Y Jets: The Jets have been winning nail biters against so-so teams for about 2 months now and their fat-mouth head coach keeps anointing themselves 2010 champions every week in his press conferences. Well, Tom Brady and company halted those plans atleast for a week and bitch slapped the tits right off of N.Y's chest and decided to milk them as well for the hell of it. I don't buy the Jets are that bad, it was a good thing they got their shit smeared all over there faces and they blew a #1 seed, to a #5 seed all in one life-less game. How will they respond, esp going on the road to Pittsburgh in 2 weeks?



Current Playoff picture:

AFC:
1. New England Patriots (10-2)
2. Pittsburgh Steelers (9-3)
3. Kansas City Chiefs (8-4)
4. Jacksonville Jaguars (7-5)
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5. N.Y Jets (8-3)
6. Baltimore Ravens (8-4)

NFC:
1. Atlanta Falcons (10-2)
2. Chicago Bears (9-3)
3. Philadelphia Eagles (8-4)
4. St. Louis Rams (6-6) <---------- What a crock of SHIT!
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5. New Orleans Saints (9-3)
6. N.Y Giants (8-4)

I'm sure, judging by how the Saints and Giants are under a team like the bad Rams team, that the NFL will change the playoff procedure and seedings in the very near future when dealing with who has the right to home games, that's just SIN.

[YoungJRNY]

I take it that all the experts here that told me I was silly are slaving over their stoves, cooking up batches of crow. And its chow time! Let's go pundits....

Nice prediction dude, we all have them and pick teams every week the same way you just predicted your 12th pick in a row by picking New England by 4 touchdowns. Laughing I agree with John, it would be more impressive if you don't pick the Pats to win by more than 5 touchdowns every damn week, it's a broken record with you with every last silly post after another but before you gag on your own semen in flattery, you failed for giving the Jets too much credit on the forefront of 17 points!

[S2M]

I take it that all the experts here that told me I was silly are slaving over their stoves, cooking up batches of crow. And its chow time! Let's go pundits....

Nice prediction dude, we all have them and pick teams every week the same way you just predicted your 12th pick in a row by picking New England by 4 touchdowns. I agree with John, it would be more impressive if you don't pick the Pats to win by more than 5 touchdowns every damn week, it's a broken record with you with every last silly post after another but before you gag on your own semen in flattery, you failed for giving the Jets too much credit on the forefront of 17 points!

Ok, here's a challenge for you. Find every instance where I've picked NE to win by 12 TDs every week....In fact, I believe I called the Miami game 41-17....and it ended up being 41-14. Gave the Phins too much credit there as well....go do some research, Lois....

[YoungJRNY]

I take it that all the experts here that told me I was silly are slaving over their stoves, cooking up batches of crow. And its chow time! Let's go pundits....

Nice prediction dude, we all have them and pick teams every week the same way you just predicted your 12th pick in a row by picking New England by 4 touchdowns. I agree with John, it would be more impressive if you don't pick the Pats to win by more than 5 touchdowns every damn week, it's a broken record with you with every last silly post after another but before you gag on your own semen in flattery, you failed for giving the Jets too much credit on the forefront of 17 points!

Ok, here's a challenge for you. Find every instance where I've picked NE to win by 12 TDs every week....In fact, I believe I called the Miami game 41-17....and it ended up being 41-14. Gave the Phins too much credit there as well....go do some research, Lois....

Why must you turn everything into a pissing match? Haha, okay, you predicted a blow out and it happened, good job. We all predict things in the same manor and me and John WEEKLY predict games and the amount of points each team will win by and it comes correct. On paper, the logic screamed that with the kind of football the Jets play, and since the last meeting between these two was lower scoring, that this game would of been competitive and down to the wire considering the stakes. Like John stated, you pick the Pats every week by 10 touchdowns so this happened to look good on your fruity resume.

[S2M]

I take it that all the experts here that told me I was silly are slaving over their stoves, cooking up batches of crow. And its chow time! Let's go pundits....

Nice prediction dude, we all have them and pick teams every week the same way you just predicted your 12th pick in a row by picking New England by 4 touchdowns. I agree with John, it would be more impressive if you don't pick the Pats to win by more than 5 touchdowns every damn week, it's a broken record with you with every last silly post after another but before you gag on your own semen in flattery, you failed for giving the Jets too much credit on the forefront of 17 points!

Ok, here's a challenge for you. Find every instance where I've picked NE to win by 12 TDs every week....In fact, I believe I called the Miami game 41-17....and it ended up being 41-14. Gave the Phins too much credit there as well....go do some research, Lois....

Why must you turn everything into a pissing match? Haha, okay, you predicted a blow out and it happened, good job. We all predict things in the same manor and me and John WEEKLY predict games and the amount of points each team will win by and it comes correct. On paper, the logic screamed that with the kind of football the Jets play, and since the last meeting between these two was lower scoring, that this game would of been competitive and down to the wire considering the stakes. Like John stated, you pick the Pats every week by 10 touchdowns so this happened to look good on your fruity resume.

There's no pissing match. Way to spin things. Fox News is hiring....

[YoungJRNY]

I take it that all the experts here that told me I was silly are slaving over their stoves, cooking up batches of crow. And its chow time! Let's go pundits....

Nice prediction dude, we all have them and pick teams every week the same way you just predicted your 12th pick in a row by picking New England by 4 touchdowns. I agree with John, it would be more impressive if you don't pick the Pats to win by more than 5 touchdowns every damn week, it's a broken record with you with every last silly post after another but before you gag on your own semen in flattery, you failed for giving the Jets too much credit on the forefront of 17 points!

Ok, here's a challenge for you. Find every instance where I've picked NE to win by 12 TDs every week....In fact, I believe I called the Miami game 41-17....and it ended up being 41-14. Gave the Phins too much credit there as well....go do some research, Lois....

Why must you turn everything into a pissing match? Haha, okay, you predicted a blow out and it happened, good job. We all predict things in the same manor and me and John WEEKLY predict games and the amount of points each team will win by and it comes correct. On paper, the logic screamed that with the kind of football the Jets play, and since the last meeting between these two was lower scoring, that this game would of been competitive and down to the wire considering the stakes. Like John stated, you pick the Pats every week by 10 touchdowns so this happened to look good on your fruity resume.

There's no pissing match. Way to spin things. Fox News is hiring....

Dude, stop fibbing, you're the best at what you do in all threads. Stop denying it.

[Enigma869]

Week 13 Power Rankings:

Tom Brady will be league MVP.

We agree on that, 100%. Like I said on this board before last night's game, this is Brady's greatest season, EVER. For some reason, this guy takes it to another level when he's not playing with superstars (Moss). If Brady doesn't win the MVP, there should be an investigation. The guy has 4 interceptions on the season and one was just him throwing the ball 50 yards down the field at the end of the half, one was a tipped ball, and one other was Randy Moss quitting on a route. I'm still not really sold on the Patrtiots being "the best team in the league", but given what I've seen this season, I think I'll grudgingly agree that they're the best team in the league at this point. That said, they were FAR better than any team in the league in 2007 (including the Giants) and that didn't end well.

[YoungJRNY]

Week 13 Power Rankings:

Tom Brady will be league MVP.

We agree on that, 100%. Like I said on this board before last night's game, this is Brady's greatest season, EVER. For some reason, this guy takes it to another level when he's not playing with superstars (Moss). If Brady doesn't win the MVP, there should be an investigation. The guy has 4 interceptions on the season and one was just him throwing the ball 50 yards down the field at the end of the half, one was a tipped ball, and one other was Randy Moss quitting on a route. I'm still not really sold on the Patrtiots being "the best team in the league", but given what I've seen this season, I think I'll grudgingly agree that they're the best team in the league at this point. That said, they were FAR better than any team in the league in 2007 (including the Giants) and that didn't end well.

I think Brady should win unanimously, even over Vick who missed what? 2-3 games? It's not even close. Brady is in a class of his own and always have been. I've always preferred Manning over Brady due to the fact of straight QB smarts and preparation as well as Manning's importance to his own team single handily, but my mind has taken an abrupt change overseeing how Manning can't hack it without a great supporting cast versus Brady chugging along with ease with no superstars. Bellichick's scheme is simply flawless. It's not necc the players around Brady but how they are used and obviously it could be anybody. Any name, no problem, Bellichick and Brady will get it done and will always be a scary team no matter what.

[DavidWT]

As a Jets fan, that was downright painful last night. But, in an odd way, I prefer to see them lose big. I think it would have hurt a lot more if they were doing really well, and then the Pats came up from behind and beat them with just a few seconds left in the game. At least as it was, I gave up hope very early on.

To the Pats fans-- You've got an incredible team and should be proud. I just wish like hell that you weren't in the same division as my Jets!

[YoungJRNY]

I prefer to see them lose big. I think it would have hurt a lot more if they were doing really well, and then the Pats came up from behind and beat them with just a few seconds left in the game. At least as it was, I gave up hope very early on.:

Losing big, losing small, losing mediocre or in between, it isn't fun, period. But funny you say that. Back in the 2004 AFC Champ game, of course, my Steelers saw the Pats come in here and WOMP all over us right from the get-go. Earlier in the year, we saw a rookie QB (Roethlisberger) beat 2 undefeated teams in a row, one being the Eagles at 7-0, and the other the Pats, 7-0 (eventual Super Bowl matchup that year.) The Steelers had homefield (everyone knows the Pats second home is Pittsburgh) so to see them climb to like a 24-3 halftime lead was like "okay, I just sat down, where did that come from?" And by the 3rd, the thought of losing set in and I was ready for the outcome. Those damn, pesky, nauseating Patriots! Their just so fuckin good and I LOATHE it, but respect it!

[Rockindeano]

The Jets are completely life-less and show no bite behind their bark. I thought it would be a more competitive game than this. Kind of dissapointed how bad of football one side can be with so much at stake. Serves the Jets right and that fat-mouth Ryan to shut their pie-hole before they win anything. Looks like the AFC is going through Foxboro.

Not so fast my friend. The Pats could definitely lose next week at the Bears, while the Jets should win at home against a QB-less Dolphins club.

Who gets the tiebreaker between the Jets and Pats?

1- Head to Head....they each won a game
2-W/L record in division. The Pats are 4-1 and the jets are 3-1, but after this week, if the Jets beat the Fins, they will be tied at 4-1.
3-W/L record within Conference. See last sentence above...both tied after this week
4-Then it gets quirky...they start talking about strength of victory head to head...Pats win

So the Pats are going to win the division if they bot finish tied.

However, looking at the remaining games, this could get interesting.

Pats remaining games:

@ Bears
Bye
@ Bills
Dolphins


Jets remaining games:

Dolphins
@ Steelers
@ Bears
Bills

On second thought, forget it. The Jets are toast with regards to catching and tying the Patriots. The Jets will have to win out and the Pats will have to lose to the Bears. I can't see the Jets winning all those, particularly the toughies at Pittsburgh and Chicago.

[Rockindeano]

I prefer to see them lose big. I think it would have hurt a lot more if they were doing really well, and then the Pats came up from behind and beat them with just a few seconds left in the game. At least as it was, I gave up hope very early on.:

Losing big, losing small, losing mediocre or in between, it isn't fun, period. But funny you say that. Back in the 2004 AFC Champ game, of course, my Steelers saw the Pats come in here and WOMP all over us right from the get-go. Earlier in the year, we saw a rookie QB (Roethlisberger) beat 2 undefeated teams in a row, one being the Eagles at 7-0, and the other the Pats, 7-0 (eventual Super Bowl matchup that year.) The Steelers had homefield (everyone knows the Pats second home is Pittsburgh) so to see them climb to like a 24-3 halftime lead was like "okay, I just sat down, where did that come from?" And by the 3rd, the thought of losing set in and I was ready for the outcome. Those damn, pesky, nauseating Patriots! Their just so fuckin good and I LOATHE it, but respect it!

I am still not sold on New England's defense. Yeah, the jets churned up a whopping three points, and yes, the patriots can flat out coach can't they? However, Sanchez shit the bed last night. he couldn't even complete a 5 yd crossing pattern to Holmes. They can't possibly play that poorly again. The Pats defense is not as good as the score indicated last night. We'll see what Cutler does against them next week.

[S2M]

I prefer to see them lose big. I think it would have hurt a lot more if they were doing really well, and then the Pats came up from behind and beat them with just a few seconds left in the game. At least as it was, I gave up hope very early on.:

Losing big, losing small, losing mediocre or in between, it isn't fun, period. But funny you say that. Back in the 2004 AFC Champ game, of course, my Steelers saw the Pats come in here and WOMP all over us right from the get-go. Earlier in the year, we saw a rookie QB (Roethlisberger) beat 2 undefeated teams in a row, one being the Eagles at 7-0, and the other the Pats, 7-0 (eventual Super Bowl matchup that year.) The Steelers had homefield (everyone knows the Pats second home is Pittsburgh) so to see them climb to like a 24-3 halftime lead was like "okay, I just sat down, where did that come from?" And by the 3rd, the thought of losing set in and I was ready for the outcome. Those damn, pesky, nauseating Patriots! Their just so fuckin good and I LOATHE it, but respect it!

I am still not sold on New England's defense. Yeah, the jets churned up a whopping three points, and yes, the patriots can flat out coach can't they? However, Sanchez shit the bed last night. he couldn't even complete a 5 yd crossing pattern to Holmes. They can't possibly play that poorly again. The Pats defense is not as good as the score indicated last night. We'll see what Cutler does against them next week.

NE - 38
CHI - 17

[YoungJRNY]

The Jets are completely life-less and show no bite behind their bark. I thought it would be a more competitive game than this. Kind of dissapointed how bad of football one side can be with so much at stake. Serves the Jets right and that fat-mouth Ryan to shut their pie-hole before they win anything. Looks like the AFC is going through Foxboro.

Pats remaining games:

@ Bears
Bye
@ Bills
Dolphins

Dude, there are no more BYE weeks, haha. The Pat's BYE week was forever ago. They got the Bears next week, followed by a home game hosting Green Bay (which should be a great, great game, as well as the Bears.) Even the Bills or Dolphins may give N.E fits, but I see them losing NO MORE than one during that stretch.

[Rockindeano]

Josh McDaniels gone....WOO HOO!!!!

(Shut it, RWF, I've heard enough from you! )

Drafting Teebow was his biggest mistake. A waste of a good draft pick.

[Rockindeano]

The Jets are completely life-less and show no bite behind their bark. I thought it would be a more competitive game than this. Kind of dissapointed how bad of football one side can be with so much at stake. Serves the Jets right and that fat-mouth Ryan to shut their pie-hole before they win anything. Looks like the AFC is going through Foxboro.

Pats remaining games:

@ Bears
Bye
@ Bills
Dolphins

Dude, there are no more BYE weeks, haha. The Pat's BYE week was forever ago. They got the Bears next week, followed by a home game hosting Green Bay (which should be a great, great game, as well as the Bears.) Even the Bills or Dolphins may give N.E fits, but I see them losing NO MORE than one during that stretch.

Goddammit, I can't read I guess. I thought that was a bit strange, Trav. So, there is a decent chance New England can lose two games. GB can definitely beat them as can Chicago. There is hope yet.

[YoungJRNY]

I prefer to see them lose big. I think it would have hurt a lot more if they were doing really well, and then the Pats came up from behind and beat them with just a few seconds left in the game. At least as it was, I gave up hope very early on.:

Losing big, losing small, losing mediocre or in between, it isn't fun, period. But funny you say that. Back in the 2004 AFC Champ game, of course, my Steelers saw the Pats come in here and WOMP all over us right from the get-go. Earlier in the year, we saw a rookie QB (Roethlisberger) beat 2 undefeated teams in a row, one being the Eagles at 7-0, and the other the Pats, 7-0 (eventual Super Bowl matchup that year.) The Steelers had homefield (everyone knows the Pats second home is Pittsburgh) so to see them climb to like a 24-3 halftime lead was like "okay, I just sat down, where did that come from?" And by the 3rd, the thought of losing set in and I was ready for the outcome. Those damn, pesky, nauseating Patriots! Their just so fuckin good and I LOATHE it, but respect it!

I am still not sold on New England's defense. Yeah, the jets churned up a whopping three points, and yes, the patriots can flat out coach can't they? However, Sanchez shit the bed last night. he couldn't even complete a 5 yd crossing pattern to Holmes. They can't possibly play that poorly again. The Pats defense is not as good as the score indicated last night. We'll see what Cutler does against them next week.

New England defense hasn't been remotely tested and not even asked to do much. Even though they give up a shitload of points & yards (they DO come up with key turnovers) New England is counteracting with scoring 35+ a game, something I didn't think was possible coming into the season so New England is playing the kind of football that won them 3 titles in the early decade. That scares me.

[Rockindeano]

I prefer to see them lose big. I think it would have hurt a lot more if they were doing really well, and then the Pats came up from behind and beat them with just a few seconds left in the game. At least as it was, I gave up hope very early on.:

Losing big, losing small, losing mediocre or in between, it isn't fun, period. But funny you say that. Back in the 2004 AFC Champ game, of course, my Steelers saw the Pats come in here and WOMP all over us right from the get-go. Earlier in the year, we saw a rookie QB (Roethlisberger) beat 2 undefeated teams in a row, one being the Eagles at 7-0, and the other the Pats, 7-0 (eventual Super Bowl matchup that year.) The Steelers had homefield (everyone knows the Pats second home is Pittsburgh) so to see them climb to like a 24-3 halftime lead was like "okay, I just sat down, where did that come from?" And by the 3rd, the thought of losing set in and I was ready for the outcome. Those damn, pesky, nauseating Patriots! Their just so fuckin good and I LOATHE it, but respect it!

I am still not sold on New England's defense. Yeah, the jets churned up a whopping three points, and yes, the patriots can flat out coach can't they? However, Sanchez shit the bed last night. he couldn't even complete a 5 yd crossing pattern to Holmes. They can't possibly play that poorly again. The Pats defense is not as good as the score indicated last night. We'll see what Cutler does against them next week.

NE - 38
CHI - 17

Big deal, you got one right. You are still the worst fan ever. Your arguments are the absolute weakest known to man. Congratulations on last night. I WILL eat crow, big time. The entire country was wrong. Like I said though, your continuous complaining of officials and excuses is what you are known for. When someone mentions "S2M" that's what immediately comes to mind. Not your rare correct prediction, but your prevelant complaining. You still suck dude.

[S2M]

I prefer to see them lose big. I think it would have hurt a lot more if they were doing really well, and then the Pats came up from behind and beat them with just a few seconds left in the game. At least as it was, I gave up hope very early on.:

Losing big, losing small, losing mediocre or in between, it isn't fun, period. But funny you say that. Back in the 2004 AFC Champ game, of course, my Steelers saw the Pats come in here and WOMP all over us right from the get-go. Earlier in the year, we saw a rookie QB (Roethlisberger) beat 2 undefeated teams in a row, one being the Eagles at 7-0, and the other the Pats, 7-0 (eventual Super Bowl matchup that year.) The Steelers had homefield (everyone knows the Pats second home is Pittsburgh) so to see them climb to like a 24-3 halftime lead was like "okay, I just sat down, where did that come from?" And by the 3rd, the thought of losing set in and I was ready for the outcome. Those damn, pesky, nauseating Patriots! Their just so fuckin good and I LOATHE it, but respect it!

I am still not sold on New England's defense. Yeah, the jets churned up a whopping three points, and yes, the patriots can flat out coach can't they? However, Sanchez shit the bed last night. he couldn't even complete a 5 yd crossing pattern to Holmes. They can't possibly play that poorly again. The Pats defense is not as good as the score indicated last night. We'll see what Cutler does against them next week.

NE - 38
CHI - 17

Big deal, you got one right. You are still the worst fan ever. Your arguments are the absolute weakest known to man. Congratulations on last night. I WILL eat crow, big time. The entire country was wrong. Like I said though, your continuous complaining of officials and excuses is what you are known for. When someone mentions "S2M" that's what immediately comes to mind. Not your rare correct prediction, but your prevelant complaining. You still suck dude.

I disagree. Sometimes you need to go beyond the numbers. Against conventional wisdom, and make a damn bold call. I go into EVERY week thining this team is going to win. There's a difference. This team is coached up so well that when they DO lose something major went wrong. They do not beat themselves, and more often than not they lose cause of some egregious officiating call(4 and 2 against Indy, Eli's Great Escape). And continue to call me out on complaining about officiating....It doesn't bother me.

[YoungJRNY]

I prefer to see them lose big. I think it would have hurt a lot more if they were doing really well, and then the Pats came up from behind and beat them with just a few seconds left in the game. At least as it was, I gave up hope very early on.:

Losing big, losing small, losing mediocre or in between, it isn't fun, period. But funny you say that. Back in the 2004 AFC Champ game, of course, my Steelers saw the Pats come in here and WOMP all over us right from the get-go. Earlier in the year, we saw a rookie QB (Roethlisberger) beat 2 undefeated teams in a row, one being the Eagles at 7-0, and the other the Pats, 7-0 (eventual Super Bowl matchup that year.) The Steelers had homefield (everyone knows the Pats second home is Pittsburgh) so to see them climb to like a 24-3 halftime lead was like "okay, I just sat down, where did that come from?" And by the 3rd, the thought of losing set in and I was ready for the outcome. Those damn, pesky, nauseating Patriots! Their just so fuckin good and I LOATHE it, but respect it!

I am still not sold on New England's defense. Yeah, the jets churned up a whopping three points, and yes, the patriots can flat out coach can't they? However, Sanchez shit the bed last night. he couldn't even complete a 5 yd crossing pattern to Holmes. They can't possibly play that poorly again. The Pats defense is not as good as the score indicated last night. We'll see what Cutler does against them next week.

NE - 38
CHI - 17

Big deal, you got one right. You are still the worst fan ever. Your arguments are the absolute weakest known to man. Congratulations on last night. I WILL eat crow, big time. The entire country was wrong. Like I said though, your continuous complaining of officials and excuses is what you are known for. When someone mentions "S2M" that's what immediately comes to mind. Not your rare correct prediction, but your prevelant complaining. You still suck dude.

more often than not they lose cause of some egregious officiating call(4 and 2 against Indy, Eli's Great Escape). And continue to call me out on complaining about officiating....It doesn't bother me.

It's a shame for New England fans to be recognized as their arrogant filth of the mouth because you define them. John has a one set mind and hasn't changed his tune since I've known him around here and he is as educational and smart as a football fan can get so his kind of fandom is overshadowed by excuse making dildos like you. Seriously though, stop with this refs garbage man! It's making you look so foolish to people that come in here and read about the NFL thread. The Steelers over the past 2 weeks before were penalized over 200 yards of penalties and STILL won the game, so stop with the refs nonsense! Every team in any which games gets the calls, some don't and some are balanced, it's the way sports work. STOP!

[S2M]

I prefer to see them lose big. I think it would have hurt a lot more if they were doing really well, and then the Pats came up from behind and beat them with just a few seconds left in the game. At least as it was, I gave up hope very early on.:

Losing big, losing small, losing mediocre or in between, it isn't fun, period. But funny you say that. Back in the 2004 AFC Champ game, of course, my Steelers saw the Pats come in here and WOMP all over us right from the get-go. Earlier in the year, we saw a rookie QB (Roethlisberger) beat 2 undefeated teams in a row, one being the Eagles at 7-0, and the other the Pats, 7-0 (eventual Super Bowl matchup that year.) The Steelers had homefield (everyone knows the Pats second home is Pittsburgh) so to see them climb to like a 24-3 halftime lead was like "okay, I just sat down, where did that come from?" And by the 3rd, the thought of losing set in and I was ready for the outcome. Those damn, pesky, nauseating Patriots! Their just so fuckin good and I LOATHE it, but respect it!

I am still not sold on New England's defense. Yeah, the jets churned up a whopping three points, and yes, the patriots can flat out coach can't they? However, Sanchez shit the bed last night. he couldn't even complete a 5 yd crossing pattern to Holmes. They can't possibly play that poorly again. The Pats defense is not as good as the score indicated last night. We'll see what Cutler does against them next week.

NE - 38
CHI - 17

Big deal, you got one right. You are still the worst fan ever. Your arguments are the absolute weakest known to man. Congratulations on last night. I WILL eat crow, big time. The entire country was wrong. Like I said though, your continuous complaining of officials and excuses is what you are known for. When someone mentions "S2M" that's what immediately comes to mind. Not your rare correct prediction, but your prevelant complaining. You still suck dude.

more often than not they lose cause of some egregious officiating call(4 and 2 against Indy, Eli's Great Escape). And continue to call me out on complaining about officiating....It doesn't bother me.

It's a shame for New England fans to be recognized as their arrogant filth of the mouth because you define them. John has a one set mind and hasn't changed his tune since I've known him around here and he is as educational and smart as a football fan can get so his kind of fandom is overshadowed by excuse making dildos like you. Seriously though, stop with this refs garbage man! It's making you look so foolish to people that come in here and read about the NFL thread. The Steelers over the past 2 weeks before were penalized over 200 yards of penalties and STILL won the game, so stop with the refs nonsense! Every team in any which games gets the calls, some don't and some are balanced, it's the way sports work. STOP!

This coming form a guy who won 2 SBs due to calls going his team's way....Good job, Colonel Objective....

[Rockindeano]

I prefer to see them lose big. I think it would have hurt a lot more if they were doing really well, and then the Pats came up from behind and beat them with just a few seconds left in the game. At least as it was, I gave up hope very early on.:

Losing big, losing small, losing mediocre or in between, it isn't fun, period. But funny you say that. Back in the 2004 AFC Champ game, of course, my Steelers saw the Pats come in here and WOMP all over us right from the get-go. Earlier in the year, we saw a rookie QB (Roethlisberger) beat 2 undefeated teams in a row, one being the Eagles at 7-0, and the other the Pats, 7-0 (eventual Super Bowl matchup that year.) The Steelers had homefield (everyone knows the Pats second home is Pittsburgh) so to see them climb to like a 24-3 halftime lead was like "okay, I just sat down, where did that come from?" And by the 3rd, the thought of losing set in and I was ready for the outcome. Those damn, pesky, nauseating Patriots! Their just so fuckin good and I LOATHE it, but respect it!

I am still not sold on New England's defense. Yeah, the jets churned up a whopping three points, and yes, the patriots can flat out coach can't they? However, Sanchez shit the bed last night. he couldn't even complete a 5 yd crossing pattern to Holmes. They can't possibly play that poorly again. The Pats defense is not as good as the score indicated last night. We'll see what Cutler does against them next week.

NE - 38
CHI - 17

Big deal, you got one right. You are still the worst fan ever. Your arguments are the absolute weakest known to man. Congratulations on last night. I WILL eat crow, big time. The entire country was wrong. Like I said though, your continuous complaining of officials and excuses is what you are known for. When someone mentions "S2M" that's what immediately comes to mind. Not your rare correct prediction, but your prevelant complaining. You still suck dude.

more often than not they lose cause of some egregious officiating call(4 and 2 against Indy, Eli's Great Escape). And continue to call me out on complaining about officiating....It doesn't bother me.

It's a shame for New England fans to be recognized as their arrogant filth of the mouth because you define them. John has a one set mind and hasn't changed his tune since I've known him around here and he is as educational and smart as a football fan can get so his kind of fandom is overshadowed by excuse making dildos like you. Seriously though, stop with this refs garbage man! It's making you look so foolish to people that come in here and read about the NFL thread. The Steelers over the past 2 weeks before were penalized over 200 yards of penalties and STILL won the game, so stop with the refs nonsense! Every team in any which games gets the calls, some don't and some are balanced, it's the way sports work. STOP!

This coming form a guy who won 2 SBs due to calls going his team's way....Good job, Colonel Objective....

2 Super Bowls? The Seattle game was definitely debateable, but the Seahawks had their chances to win that game despite some "questionable" calls. I was pissed but conceded that PGH won that game. I still think Bettis was a piece of shit who got some favoritism in that game, but I digress.

What other SB are you saying was "given" to the Steelers?


By the way, I love how the Steelers are always "given" wins, but the Patriots always have games "stolen" from them. You just sound so fucking juvenile and stupid when you open your mouth about this. man up for once. You sound like a 13 year old JV player complaining about the refs. Embarrassing.

[S2M]

I just call 'em like I see 'em, Dean....In the SB, on the biggest stage - the refs blew the call. That is unforgiveable. Sorry. League wanted both Mannings to have a ring. Simple as that. The fact is that penalties can be called on EVERY play. That is indisputable. So WHEN they are called is telling. I've stated this ad nauseum. When officials pick and choose which ones to call, red flags go up....whether it is done for Vegas, or done because of another reason - it is done....Everybody got all over Holculi in that Denver game a couple of years ago....but nobody seems to care about a BLATANT non-call for holding on Eli's Great Escape....and that 4th and 2 against Indy....I just find it funny.

[YoungJRNY]

I prefer to see them lose big. I think it would have hurt a lot more if they were doing really well, and then the Pats came up from behind and beat them with just a few seconds left in the game. At least as it was, I gave up hope very early on.:

Losing big, losing small, losing mediocre or in between, it isn't fun, period. But funny you say that. Back in the 2004 AFC Champ game, of course, my Steelers saw the Pats come in here and WOMP all over us right from the get-go. Earlier in the year, we saw a rookie QB (Roethlisberger) beat 2 undefeated teams in a row, one being the Eagles at 7-0, and the other the Pats, 7-0 (eventual Super Bowl matchup that year.) The Steelers had homefield (everyone knows the Pats second home is Pittsburgh) so to see them climb to like a 24-3 halftime lead was like "okay, I just sat down, where did that come from?" And by the 3rd, the thought of losing set in and I was ready for the outcome. Those damn, pesky, nauseating Patriots! Their just so fuckin good and I LOATHE it, but respect it!

I am still not sold on New England's defense. Yeah, the jets churned up a whopping three points, and yes, the patriots can flat out coach can't they? However, Sanchez shit the bed last night. he couldn't even complete a 5 yd crossing pattern to Holmes. They can't possibly play that poorly again. The Pats defense is not as good as the score indicated last night. We'll see what Cutler does against them next week.

NE - 38
CHI - 17

Big deal, you got one right. You are still the worst fan ever. Your arguments are the absolute weakest known to man. Congratulations on last night. I WILL eat crow, big time. The entire country was wrong. Like I said though, your continuous complaining of officials and excuses is what you are known for. When someone mentions "S2M" that's what immediately comes to mind. Not your rare correct prediction, but your prevelant complaining. You still suck dude.

more often than not they lose cause of some egregious officiating call(4 and 2 against Indy, Eli's Great Escape). And continue to call me out on complaining about officiating....It doesn't bother me.

It's a shame for New England fans to be recognized as their arrogant filth of the mouth because you define them. John has a one set mind and hasn't changed his tune since I've known him around here and he is as educational and smart as a football fan can get so his kind of fandom is overshadowed by excuse making dildos like you. Seriously though, stop with this refs garbage man! It's making you look so foolish to people that come in here and read about the NFL thread. The Steelers over the past 2 weeks before were penalized over 200 yards of penalties and STILL won the game, so stop with the refs nonsense! Every team in any which games gets the calls, some don't and some are balanced, it's the way sports work. STOP!

This coming form a guy who won 2 SBs due to calls going his team's way....Good job, Colonel Objective....

Just like Deano said, "juvenile." I still think you bitching and moaning about the refs as a New England fan is hysterical beyond belief. E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G you see in today's wussified NFL you so hate has been the Patriots doing. First off, that fateful night in Foxboro in 2001 was a disgrace of a call. The Tuck rule defined the New England dynasty and everyone and their mother KNOWS that call shouldn't of been made within that magnitude. Brady was pump-faking the damn ball and even brought it back down to re-load. Yes, the arm was going forward, but it was after the pump-fake IMHO and the fumble should have stood.

Carson Palmer goes down in the 2005 AFC Wild Card game and busts his knee up. Not one rule was changed and nobody even gave a shit, but once Brady busts his knee in 2008, there's all kinds of rule changes, suspensions, fines and different forms of tackling the quarterback in general or else you will pay not only on the field, but a heft amount of bank afterwards. ALL these rules were defined because the NFL wants to protect the likes of Manning and Brady and seemingly nobody else, and that's a fact.