OFFICIAL 2010-2011 NFL season & predictions thread:

[Seven Wishes2]

You can write off the Bears, Chiefs, Jets, and Eagles. Philly has absolutely no defense, the Jets are too cocky, the Chiefs can't score, and the Bears have Cutler. 'Nuff said.

[YoungJRNY]

The quality of the opposition is about to go up dramatically. The Pats will likely face Baltimore, a team I see destroying the Chiefs by at least 14 points. The Pats have never matched up well with those Baltimore thugs and murderers. Get past that game, and it's the Colts or the Steelers, either of which could EASILY defeat the Pats, even on the road.

I agree. Even though I think Baltimore is weaker than what their record certainly indicates (I'd love to see them first game, Pitt got their number and I think we out-match them) out of ALL of the teams in the AFC picture, Baltimore is equipped to beat New England. If Pittsburgh meets N.E, I think that earlier game will be erased. Pittsburgh is getting healthier and has been playing some tight football as of late. N.E got us when we were on a downward slope. I'd like to see that matchup again.

[RedWingFan]

I agree with your KC statement. Noone is eager to run into the Chiefs IN the new Arrowhead Stadium.

Can't agree with this. The Raiders D-line looked like they were on a jailbreak on almost every snap. KC's O-line was the most pathetic thing I've seen in awhile.

Probably since watching the Lions offensive line a few years ago try to block a 3 man rush... the 2 outside rushers both got their hands on the QB and the 3rd guy knocked the ball down!!!!

There is no reason to fear the Chiefs!!! Don't believe me? Tune into the Raiders/Chiefs shortcut on DirecTv if you have the opportunity.

[YoungJRNY]

I agree with your KC statement. Noone is eager to run into the Chiefs IN the new Arrowhead Stadium.

Can't agree with this. The Raiders D-line looked like they were on a jailbreak on almost every snap. KC's O-line was the most pathetic thing I've seen in awhile.

Probably since watching the Lions offensive line a few years ago try to block a 3 man rush... the 2 outside rushers both got their hands on the QB and the 3rd guy knocked the ball down!!!!

There is no reason to fear the Chiefs!!! Don't believe me? Tune into the Raiders/Chiefs shortcut on DirecTv if you have the opportunity.

The Chiefs and Raiders always balance each other out, but I'm telling you that with that Arrowhead crowd behind a K.C Chiefs team that is the best stamp at playing spoiler, I'm sure teams won't overlook K.C. Hell, I'd be more afraid to play K.C than Balty right now. Good thing K.C would be coming into Heinz if it comes to it.

[RPM]

You forgot the probable #2 seed the Bears, who beat up the eagles pretty good, but got killed
against the patriots.

I didn't "forget" the Bears at all. Cutler sucks and no team with him leading them is winning anything.

Well he is inconsistant, but the bears defense is capable of playing very well, also there is no big target
reciever either, but the running game is improving, as well as the offensive line, as far as NFC teams, even
with sucky cutler as you say, they can play with any of them. against AFC that maybe a different story.

[Enigma869]

You mean like when they played the giants in the Super Bowl? Ohhh...yeah...wait...the Giant's WON...LOL

Though I am inclined to agree with you more or less...I don't think ANY team is unbeatable...anything and EVERYTHING can and usually does happen during the playoffs.

Don't write off anyone in the AFC...and don't write off anyone in the NFC other than the NFC West winner.

History is being made, because for once in my life, I couldn't agree with you more. Spot on with this post and the NFC West "winner" should be fucking embarrassed to be making the playoffs and actually hosting a game!

[Enigma869]

As far as the Chiefs go, I've definitely changed my mind after seeing them today and looking at their season record. The reality is that they really haven't beaten anyone. The only thing that really makes them remotely "dangerous" in the playoffs, is that like New England, they simply do not make mistakes that beat themselves. That said, I'd be very surprised if they weren't one and done.

[Rockindeano]

Probably since watching the Lions offensive line a few years ago try to block a 3 man rush... the 2 outside rushers both got their hands on the QB and the 3rd guy knocked the ball down!!!!

I just laughed out loud at your Lion smack, but I wouldn't be surprised if they get to 9-7 next year, especially with OG gone.

[RossValoryRocks]

You mean like when they played the giants in the Super Bowl? Ohhh...yeah...wait...the Giant's WON...LOL

Though I am inclined to agree with you more or less...I don't think ANY team is unbeatable...anything and EVERYTHING can and usually does happen during the playoffs.

Don't write off anyone in the AFC...and don't write off anyone in the NFC other than the NFC West winner.

History is being made, because for once in my life, I couldn't agree with you more. Spot on with this post and the NFC West "winner" should be fucking embarrassed to be making the playoffs and actually hosting a game!

LOL even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then!

[RPM]

The lions are a better team than people give them credit for, granted they dont finish well,
but they will be a .500 team or better next year, not the gimme wins they have been for years.

[YoungJRNY]

The lions are a better team than people give them credit for, granted they dont finish well,
but they will be a .500 team or better next year, not the gimme wins they have been for years.

Every once in awhile, a bad team with bad luck will find their way into finding the right pieces of the puzzle to build a good football team. You can very much see the Lions getting better each week. They could be a WC team next season, esp in the wacky NFC, let alone NFL.

[RedWingFan]

Probably since watching the Lions offensive line a few years ago try to block a 3 man rush... the 2 outside rushers both got their hands on the QB and the 3rd guy knocked the ball down!!!!

I just laughed out loud at your Lion smack, but I wouldn't be surprised if they get to 9-7 next year, especially with OG gone.

Dude, it was hilarious. I can't remember who they were playing, but the Lions were getting blown out in the 4th quarter. So of course the defense dropped 8 and rushed 3.

The Lions had 5 offensive lineman and a TE to pass protect. The pocket still collapsed. It was great!!!

[Rockindeano]

Probably since watching the Lions offensive line a few years ago try to block a 3 man rush... the 2 outside rushers both got their hands on the QB and the 3rd guy knocked the ball down!!!!

I just laughed out loud at your Lion smack, but I wouldn't be surprised if they get to 9-7 next year, especially with OG gone.

Dude, it was hilarious. I can't remember who they were playing, but the Lions were getting blown out in the 4th quarter. So of course the defense dropped 8 and rushed 3.

The Lions had 5 offensive lineman and a TE to pass protect. The pocket still collapsed. It was great!!!

That is like being scored against while on a 5 on 3 power play.

[RossValoryRocks]

Well the NFC west is officially terrible...a 7-9 team going to the playoffs?

Or MAYBE the NFL as become a joke?

I don't know, but HOW IN THE HELL CAN A TEAM WITH A LOSING RECORD GO TO THE PLAYOFFS, LET ALONE HOST A GAME?

[Ehwmatt]

Well the NFC west is officially terrible...a 7-9 team going to the playoffs?

Or MAYBE the NFL as become a joke?

I don't know, but HOW IN THE HELL CAN A TEAM WITH A LOSING RECORD GO TO THE PLAYOFFS, LET ALONE HOST A GAME?

The NFL is still far and away the best pro sports league. But, something does have to be done about .500 teams having home field advantage or worse yet, losing record teams going to the playoffs (and even hosting games).

[Rockindeano]

Well the NFC west is officially terrible...a 7-9 team going to the playoffs?

Or MAYBE the NFL as become a joke?

I don't know, but HOW IN THE HELL CAN A TEAM WITH A LOSING RECORD GO TO THE PLAYOFFS, LET ALONE HOST A GAME?

I believe the NFL is going to look at this in the offseason. I know they are going to look to change the home field formula in the playoffs...case in point, New orleans is on the road at 7-9 Seattle. NO is 11-5 for God's sake.

I understand why there are divisions. They exist to keep the teams fans in said division interested, as long as they have a shot at winning the division, fan interest will remain high.

We always could go to the old baseball league where the was simply a National and American leaugue and the winner of each league played for all the marbles. The NFL would lose a shitload of fans if this were implemented. Parity is good.

Plus, I think Seattle can give the saints a good game. Seattle is a tough place to play.

[S2M]

The playoff system is garbage. I like the NBA/NHL way of seeding playoff teams, although I do not like the fact that divisional winners automatically get in, PLUS get to host a playoff game possibly against a wildcard team with a better record. In the case of the NFC West - probably a team with a better record by 3 games!

If I had my way - best 6 teams in each conference make playoffs....and if that means a division is left out - great. Learn how to play fucking football.

I said this hours ago.....

[YoungJRNY]

Well the NFC west is officially terrible...a 7-9 team going to the playoffs?

Or MAYBE the NFL as become a joke?

I don't know, but HOW IN THE HELL CAN A TEAM WITH A LOSING RECORD GO TO THE PLAYOFFS, LET ALONE HOST A GAME?

Why do you think there are divisions in football? Why have divisions if your not going to obey by the philosophy? NFL is set up to where you play 2 games within your 4 team division. Win your division, and you're in, it's a simple formula that works and there's no better way to do it. All the NFL has to do is change the W-L record with teams that are allowed to host a home playoff game, plain and simple.

[S2M]

Well the NFC west is officially terrible...a 7-9 team going to the playoffs?

Or MAYBE the NFL as become a joke?

I don't know, but HOW IN THE HELL CAN A TEAM WITH A LOSING RECORD GO TO THE PLAYOFFS, LET ALONE HOST A GAME?

Why do you think there are divisions in football? Why have divisions if your not going to obey by the philosophy? NFL is set up to where you play 2 games within your 4 team division. Win your division, and you're in, it's a simple formula that works and there's no better way to do it. All the NFL has to do is change the W-L record with teams that are allowed to host a home playoff game, plain and simple.

So you think Seattle deserves to be in over the Giants, or Tampa Bay, who are both 10-6?

[Rockindeano]

Well the NFC west is officially terrible...a 7-9 team going to the playoffs?

Or MAYBE the NFL as become a joke?

I don't know, but HOW IN THE HELL CAN A TEAM WITH A LOSING RECORD GO TO THE PLAYOFFS, LET ALONE HOST A GAME?

Why do you think there are divisions in football? Why have divisions if your not going to obey by the philosophy? NFL is set up to where you play 2 games within your 4 team division. Win your division, and you're in, it's a simple formula that works and there's no better way to do it. All the NFL has to do is change the W-L record with teams that are allowed to host a home playoff game, plain and simple.

So you think Seattle deserves to be in over the Giants, or Tampa Bay, who are both 10-6?

Absolutely they do. They won their division. And had the Giants simply punted a ball out of bounds two weeks ago, they WOULD be in the playoffs.

Rules are rules. Very simple.

[YoungJRNY]

Well the NFC west is officially terrible...a 7-9 team going to the playoffs?

Or MAYBE the NFL as become a joke?

I don't know, but HOW IN THE HELL CAN A TEAM WITH A LOSING RECORD GO TO THE PLAYOFFS, LET ALONE HOST A GAME?

Why do you think there are divisions in football? Why have divisions if your not going to obey by the philosophy? NFL is set up to where you play 2 games within your 4 team division. Win your division, and you're in, it's a simple formula that works and there's no better way to do it. All the NFL has to do is change the W-L record with teams that are allowed to host a home playoff game, plain and simple.

So you think Seattle deserves to be in over the Giants, or Tampa Bay, who are both 10-6?

Yes. The Giants had their division lead at one point and looked to be one of the dominating teams in the NFL. They simply didn't step up to the plate when it was time to finish their season on top of not only the NFL, but their division. They failed and someone else from that division stepped up and took it. The Seahawks did what they had to do within their own realm of playoff possibility, kept winning when it was crunch time and then went out with their 2nd string QB, at home, with the playoffs on the line and beat a division foe. I'd say they deserve it for finishing. Do they deserve a home playoff? No, but they took care of their own controlled responsibility while the Giants and Bucs couldn't and only did what they have to do within the rules. The rules state that they host New Orleans next week.

[S2M]

Well the NFC west is officially terrible...a 7-9 team going to the playoffs?

Or MAYBE the NFL as become a joke?

I don't know, but HOW IN THE HELL CAN A TEAM WITH A LOSING RECORD GO TO THE PLAYOFFS, LET ALONE HOST A GAME?

Why do you think there are divisions in football? Why have divisions if your not going to obey by the philosophy? NFL is set up to where you play 2 games within your 4 team division. Win your division, and you're in, it's a simple formula that works and there's no better way to do it. All the NFL has to do is change the W-L record with teams that are allowed to host a home playoff game, plain and simple.

So you think Seattle deserves to be in over the Giants, or Tampa Bay, who are both 10-6?

Absolutely they do. They won their division. And had the Giants simply punted a ball out of bounds two weeks ago, they WOULD be in the playoffs.

Rules are rules. Very simple.

You're a huge hockey fan. Do you not like the way the NHL seeds playoff teams? Top 8 teams in each conference are ranked in order of total points - regardless of which division.

[YoungJRNY]

Well the NFC west is officially terrible...a 7-9 team going to the playoffs?

Or MAYBE the NFL as become a joke?

I don't know, but HOW IN THE HELL CAN A TEAM WITH A LOSING RECORD GO TO THE PLAYOFFS, LET ALONE HOST A GAME?

Why do you think there are divisions in football? Why have divisions if your not going to obey by the philosophy? NFL is set up to where you play 2 games within your 4 team division. Win your division, and you're in, it's a simple formula that works and there's no better way to do it. All the NFL has to do is change the W-L record with teams that are allowed to host a home playoff game, plain and simple.

So you think Seattle deserves to be in over the Giants, or Tampa Bay, who are both 10-6?

Absolutely they do. They won their division. And had the Giants simply punted a ball out of bounds two weeks ago, they WOULD be in the playoffs.

Rules are rules. Very simple.

You're a huge hockey fan. Do you not like the way the NHL seeds playoff teams? Top 8 teams in each conference are ranked in order of total points - regardless of which division.

There's also tons upon tons more games played in the hockey league and also more teams in a divisional Conference. Completley different set up when you play 80+ games.

[S2M]

Number of games is irrelevant.

Also, there are 15 teams per conference, and 5 teams per division. Not that different. Nice try though, Trav....

[YoungJRNY]

Number of games is irrelevant.

No it isn't because the more games you play, the more points total that factors in a teams overall point standings, as well as overtime point or points. The NHL is set up for the best set of teams based off a point system, which figures in every game that's played. For instance, an NHL team can lose a game and STILL position themselves in their playoff seeding because they can still pick up a point if the game goes into overtime or a shootout. The NFL is set off of straight W-L, more-so with your division record more than anything, which is the basic point to this debate in the first place.

[Rockindeano]

You're a huge hockey fan. Do you not like the way the NHL seeds playoff teams? Top 8 teams in each conference are ranked in order of total points - regardless of which division.

No they aren't. The top three seeded teams in each conference are the division leaders. Go look over at NHL.com. Vancouver is the number 1 team in the NHL right now incidentally . Teams 4-8 are seeded on points however.

[Rockindeano]

Well the NFC west is officially terrible...a 7-9 team going to the playoffs?

Or MAYBE the NFL as become a joke?

I don't know, but HOW IN THE HELL CAN A TEAM WITH A LOSING RECORD GO TO THE PLAYOFFS, LET ALONE HOST A GAME?

The NFL is still far and away the best pro sports league. But, something does have to be done about .500 teams having home field advantage or worse yet, losing record teams going to the playoffs (and even hosting games).

I don't think the NFL is the best league, not at all. I DO like how the emphasis is on winning every week, but come playoff time, how the hell does the NFL beat MLB playoffs or Stanley Cup Playoffs? I guess it's a matter of taste.

[S2M]

You're a huge hockey fan. Do you not like the way the NHL seeds playoff teams? Top 8 teams in each conference are ranked in order of total points - regardless of which division.

No they aren't. The top three seeded teams in each conference are the division leaders. Go look over at NHL.com. Vancouver is the number 1 team in the NHL right now incidentally . Teams 4-8 are seeded on points however.

Well, my main point is that in hockey you RARELY ever get the clusterfuck that is the NFL playoff system....

[Rockindeano]

You're a huge hockey fan. Do you not like the way the NHL seeds playoff teams? Top 8 teams in each conference are ranked in order of total points - regardless of which division.

No they aren't. The top three seeded teams in each conference are the division leaders. Go look over at NHL.com. Vancouver is the number 1 team in the NHL right now incidentally . Teams 4-8 are seeded on points however.

Well, my main point is that in hockey you RARELY ever get the clusterfuck that is the NFL playoff system....

You don't? Last year, the 8th seed in the East was in the Finals....but I see your point.

[Enigma869]

The NFL playoff system has always been fucked up, and I REALLY wish they would change it up (even though I don't believe they will). I view the playoffs really no different than the instant replay system. Most fans simply want them to get the call correct (even if it means their team doesn't get the benefit of a bad call). Even the fans that don't like the instant replay system don't have much of an argument when the correct call is made. I've always felt that playoff seeding should come down to the record of the teams. There simply isn't a good argument against it and never has been. The bottom line in the NFL is winning games and teams should be rewarded based on the number of wins they have. It is fucking absurd that the Saints have to travel to an inferior Seattle team to play them, based on the performance of these two teams during the season!