OFFICIAL 2010-2011 NFL season & predictions thread:

[YoungJRNY]

I don't really care what kind of injury it was, I'm stubborn when it comes to injuries in huge games. I atleast wanted him to attempt to run the fuck on the field like Rudy only if it was for one goddamn series to hand the fucker off, then you wouldn't be hearing it.

Ok next we get together will you let me damage your knee with an MCL???

Let's see how you do?

Oh and HE DID come in for a series after the injury, he just couldn't plant and they pulled him.

Then I stand corrected and so should whoever else that bashed the dude. Doesn't change the fact that he's getting these responses only because he's had a track record of acting like a straight-up woman in many case's. I can really give a fuck less though, it still surprised the fuck out of me that Chicago got this far to begin with.

[Saint John]

Really? Same injury below:


Jaguars coach Jack Del Rio praised Maurice Jones-Drew for playing through a torn right meniscus almost all season.
"We knew (about the injury) in training camp," Del Rio conceded. "He didn't want to talk about it. ... I give him a lot of credit." Jones-Drew is having surgery on Wednesday. "Everything I've heard and learned is that he's going to be able to get the fix that he needs and get him back rolling," JDR added. "The surgery is expected to get him back to normal."


I might add that he also had six straight 100 yard games and played for 14 weeks with a torn meniscus ... at running back! We just needed a little over a half.

Dan, now I know why you and Travis aren't doctors...a torn meniscus is NOT a MCL...the meniscus is part of the cartilige in the knee joint...the Medial Cruciate Ligament or MCL is a a LIGAMENT holding the knee together.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meniscus_(anatomy)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medial_collateral_ligament

If Cutler had continued to play he could have ended his career and crippled himself for life.

So next time BEFORE opening your mouth (you too Trav) do a little research before yapping ABOUT THE WRONG FUCKING INJURY! LOL

Shut up. Jones-Drew's injury involved cartilage and Cuntler's involves a ligament. Ligaments can be easily fixed, but I know of no one making cartilage. You get a torn meniscus from a traumatic injury or a degenerative condition. In Jones-Drew's case, the injury was from a traumatic injury. And he still played for 14 weeks, but Cuntler took his torn ligament and went home. All he needed was a brace and some pain killers. I might be willing to give him a break if it's a Grade III tear ... but we'll just have to wait and see.

[RossValoryRocks]

Really? Same injury below:


Jaguars coach Jack Del Rio praised Maurice Jones-Drew for playing through a torn right meniscus almost all season.
"We knew (about the injury) in training camp," Del Rio conceded. "He didn't want to talk about it. ... I give him a lot of credit." Jones-Drew is having surgery on Wednesday. "Everything I've heard and learned is that he's going to be able to get the fix that he needs and get him back rolling," JDR added. "The surgery is expected to get him back to normal."


I might add that he also had six straight 100 yard games and played for 14 weeks with a torn meniscus ... at running back! We just needed a little over a half.

Dan, now I know why you and Travis aren't doctors...a torn meniscus is NOT a MCL...the meniscus is part of the cartilige in the knee joint...the Medial Cruciate Ligament or MCL is a a LIGAMENT holding the knee together.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meniscus_(anatomy)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medial_collateral_ligament

If Cutler had continued to play he could have ended his career and crippled himself for life.

So next time BEFORE opening your mouth (you too Trav) do a little research before yapping ABOUT THE WRONG FUCKING INJURY! LOL

Shut up. Jones-Drew's injury involved cartilage and Cuntler's involves a ligament. Ligaments can be easily fixed, but I know of no one making cartilage. You get a torn meniscus from a traumatic injury or a degenerative condition. In Jones-Drew's case, the injury was from a traumatic injury. And he still played for 14 weeks, but Cuntler took his torn ligament and went home. All he needed was a brace and some pain killers. I might be willing to give him a break if it's a Grade III tear ... but we'll just have to wait and see.

Oh no dude...you said SAME injury...which means you were WRONG...a torn meniscus is easily repairable, the cut away the tear and :::GASP::: the cartilage grows back!

So admit it you are wrong...and I am GLAD you aren't a doctor...unless I was the lawyer suing you for malpractice!! LOL

[YoungJRNY]

A little player personal, broken down individually for Super Bowl 45.

[S2M]

Another hit-and-run from me....

Fact is I saw Hanie looking at game photos while on the bench BY HIMSELF....Quitler was exactly that - a Quitter. Although he couldn't PLAY, he is still a starting NFL QB with game experience and therefore knowledge to relay to Hanie. Instead, he moped around on the bench with this deer-in-the-headlights look like he just completely lost interest in the game....The professional thing to do was to attach himself to Hanie and run through some things. Pitiful display by Vajayjay Cutler.....

[Saint John]

Another hit-and-run from me....

Fact is I saw Hanie looking at game photos while on the bench BY HIMSELF....Quitler was exactly that - a Quitter. Although he couldn't PLAY, he is still a starting NFL QB with game experience and therefore knowledge to relay to Hanie. Instead, he moped around on the bench with this deer-in-the-headlights look like he just completely lost interest in the game....The professional thing to do was to attach himself to Hanie and run through some things. Pitiful display by Vajayjay Cutler.....

Excellent observation and the exact reason I posted earlier that he "seemed indifferent."

[YoungJRNY]

Another hit-and-run from me....

Fact is I saw Hanie looking at game photos while on the bench BY HIMSELF....Quitler was exactly that - a Quitter. Although he couldn't PLAY, he is still a starting NFL QB with game experience and therefore knowledge to relay to Hanie. Instead, he moped around on the bench with this deer-in-the-headlights look like he just completely lost interest in the game....The professional thing to do was to attach himself to Hanie and run through some things. Pitiful display by Vajayjay Cutler.....

Who are you, and what have you done with S2M?! Haha, good post dude. Agreed that Cutler seemed to just pout and moan rather than help out a QB in desperate need of all the knowledge he could gain, a 3rd stringer to boot. CHI fans have to be dissapointed with the whole ordeal.

[squirt1]

What an assembly of arm chair doctors in this thread !

[YoungJRNY]

What an assembly of arm chair doctors in this thread !

The whole world is talking about it dude. Point is that Cutler seemed lifeless in every aspect of his attitude and how he handled himself after the fact too, sitting there with his jacket over his head not even speaking to anyone. In a sport in where players play with insane injuries, esp in huge games.. you know, to go to the Super Bowl, the spectacle of all professional sports, some may have wanted to see more from the leader of a football team.

[Ehwmatt]

What an assembly of arm chair doctors in this thread !

The whole world is talking about it dude. Point is that Cutler seemed lifeless in every aspect of his attitude and how he handled himself after the fact too, sitting there with his jacket over his head not even speaking to anyone. In a sport in where players play with insane injuries, esp in huge games.. you know, to go to the Super Bowl, the spectacle of all professional sports, some may have wanted to see more from the leader of a football team.

I think it's readily apparent which people in this thread have ever played a sport at a competitive level and those who have not. You hit it right on the head, and those of us who played sports in high school and/or college know exactly what you mean and know exactly why Cutler is taking heat today.

[YoungJRNY]

Another week, another record-breaking television rating for the NFL.

NFL VP of communications Brian McCarthy reports that Sunday’s Jets-Steelers game was the most watched AFC Championship game ever, with an average of 54.8 million viewers. The NFC Championship wasn’t far behind with 51.9 million viewers. (That was up 7% from the early game last year and the best ratings for an early window title game on FOX.)

We suspect this won’t be the last record to fall this season. Packers vs. Steelers is a recipe for huge Super Bowl numbers

[Rockindeano]

I agree with you, again Dan. Now seeing the Pack/Bears game, I think it was very gutless for Cutler to not even push his way back into the game, check that, not even a game, possibly the biggest game of the YEAR, esp for him and for sure his whole career. Didn't Phillip Rivers play his entire AFC Champ game against N.E on a torn MCL? Yeah, no excuse for this puss.

Are you kidding me? An MCL tear is usually worse than an ACL tear and he would've risked doing even more severe damage to the joint if he had tried. Unbelievable.

Bullshit, these pro athletes take shots & injections the size of a buzz-saw in those situations, atleast numb the damn thing, it's what football is all about. He still could have played, without question. He was walking fine and I think I saw him celebrate like a champ as well when the 3rd string QB looked like Montana before he threw the game deciding pick. I don't question the severity of knees, but they could have shot it up to the point to where he could have finished the game, or atleast fucking TRY.

YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT. You clearly have NO idea or experience when it comes to knee injuries like this. I DO. I have torn my ACL (100%) on BOTH knees and my MCL (100%) on my right knee. I also partially tore my MCL (left knee-30%). The MCL is clearly the more painful of the two. I DID play an entire year of college football with a torn ACL. The only problem was that it did hurt, but that was taken care of with meds and needles, but it also "gave out" all the time. The MCL is a completely different animal. You can't even limp with that injury. It is the most pain I have ever felt in my life. You can't man up that injury. Even the OG couldn't even play with a partial tear of the MCL. It is that fucking bad I tell you.

Trav, I am glad you have NO experience in knee pain/surgeries. I am glad you haven't had those injuries. I talk alot of shit on here obviously, but with this topic, I am the MR expert. I have had 7 knee surgeries, ACL(2), MCL once and meniscus clean ups. Meniscus is irritable, but one can definitely play through that pain. Same with cartiledge. Meniscus and cartiledge are just annoying.... These pros DO throw vicodin down and take the needle, as they should IMO, but the MCL...thwere is NO drug to conceal that pain. I would rather take a dick in my virgin asshole from Grape Ape on an all night bender, while Jabber Jaw fucks my mouth then play with a partial MCL tear.

I think all these assholes (players) that called outy Jay Cutler should apologize(if they had balls but they don't), and go fduck themselves with a ditch witch. Maurice jones drew can fuck off especially. here you got a pussy running back from that all too tough school UCLA , you know, the school that wears powder blue uniforms....and the guy has a hyphenated last name....WTF is HE calling out an NFL QB, attempting to play an NFC championship gamre in 1 degree weather? Let me guess, Maurice was at his home with a duraflame log simmering, watching the real champion caliber players, um, play.

You here that call Cutler a pussy clearly have No idea what you are talking about, and the fact that brian fucking urlacher not only defended him, but also called him one of the toughest guys on the field should tell you something....and oh yeah, MRI reveals the injury IS real.

Apologize or shut the fuck up! Hell, just trade Cutler straight up for Carson Palmer and BOTH teams will be happy.

[Rockindeano]

Another week, another record-breaking television rating for the NFL.

NFL VP of communications Brian McCarthy reports that Sunday’s Jets-Steelers game was the most watched AFC Championship game ever, with an average of 54.8 million viewers. The NFC Championship wasn’t far behind with 51.9 million viewers. (That was up 7% from the early game last year and the best ratings for an early window title game on FOX.)

We suspect this won’t be the last record to fall this season. Packers vs. Steelers is a recipe for huge Super Bowl numbers

Too bad the NFL is having a great playoffs and a much anticipated super Bowl, and these greedy fucks on BOTH sides are going to fuck things up, so much that there won't even be a season next year. Awesome.

[Ehwmatt]

I agree with you, again Dan. Now seeing the Pack/Bears game, I think it was very gutless for Cutler to not even push his way back into the game, check that, not even a game, possibly the biggest game of the YEAR, esp for him and for sure his whole career. Didn't Phillip Rivers play his entire AFC Champ game against N.E on a torn MCL? Yeah, no excuse for this puss.

Are you kidding me? An MCL tear is usually worse than an ACL tear and he would've risked doing even more severe damage to the joint if he had tried. Unbelievable.

Bullshit, these pro athletes take shots & injections the size of a buzz-saw in those situations, atleast numb the damn thing, it's what football is all about. He still could have played, without question. He was walking fine and I think I saw him celebrate like a champ as well when the 3rd string QB looked like Montana before he threw the game deciding pick. I don't question the severity of knees, but they could have shot it up to the point to where he could have finished the game, or atleast fucking TRY.

YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT. You clearly have NO idea or experience when it comes to knee injuries like this. I DO. I have torn my ACL (100%) on BOTH knees and my MCL (100%) on my right knee. I also partially tore my MCL (left knee-30%). The MCL is clearly the more painful of the two. I DID play an entire year of college football with a torn ACL. The only problem was that it did hurt, but that was taken care of with meds and needles, but it also "gave out" all the time. The MCL is a completely different animal. You can't even limp with that injury. It is the most pain I have ever felt in my life. You can't man up that injury. Even the OG couldn't even play with a partial tear of the MCL. It is that fucking bad I tell you.

Trav, I am glad you have NO experience in knee pain/surgeries. I am glad you haven't had those injuries. I talk alot of shit on here obviously, but with this topic, I am the MR expert. I have had 7 knee surgeries, ACL(2), MCL once and meniscus clean ups. Meniscus is irritable, but one can definitely play through that pain. Same with cartiledge. Meniscus and cartiledge are just annoying.... These pros DO throw vicodin down and take the needle, as they should IMO, but the MCL...thwere is NO drug to conceal that pain. I would rather take a dick in my virgin asshole from Grape Ape on an all night bender, while Jabber Jaw fucks my mouth then play with a partial MCL tear.

I think all these assholes (players) that called outy Jay Cutler should apologize(if they had balls but they don't), and go fduck themselves with a ditch witch. Maurice jones drew can fuck off especially. here you got a pussy running back from that all too tough school UCLA , you know, the school that wears powder blue uniforms....and the guy has a hyphenated last name....WTF is HE calling out an NFL QB, attempting to play an NFC championship gamre in 1 degree weather? Let me guess, Maurice was at his home with a duraflame log simmering, watching the real champion caliber players, um, play.

You here that call Cutler a pussy clearly have No idea what you are talking about, and the fact that brian fucking urlacher not only defended him, but also called him one of the toughest guys on the field should tell you something....and oh yeah, MRI reveals the injury IS real.

Apologize or shut the fuck up! Hell, just trade Cutler straight up for Carson Palmer and BOTH teams will be happy.

What say you regarding Cutler's seeming lack of participation on the sideline, not helping Hanie out etc? That's my rub with him. Initially, I didn't see much of an injury, but concededly they are not always visible. I did think he might be pulling an LT (the shitty LT, not the statutory rapist but legendary LT) and just hiding from the big moment with a phantom injury. Even if he's not, it doesn't explain the rest of his behavior to me. I dunno. Guy has a history. That's the aggravating factor for me.

[Ehwmatt]

Another week, another record-breaking television rating for the NFL.

NFL VP of communications Brian McCarthy reports that Sunday’s Jets-Steelers game was the most watched AFC Championship game ever, with an average of 54.8 million viewers. The NFC Championship wasn’t far behind with 51.9 million viewers. (That was up 7% from the early game last year and the best ratings for an early window title game on FOX.)

We suspect this won’t be the last record to fall this season. Packers vs. Steelers is a recipe for huge Super Bowl numbers

Too bad the NFL is having a great playoffs and a much anticipated super Bowl, and these greedy fucks on BOTH sides are going to fuck things up, so much that there won't even be a season next year. Awesome.

Fuck them both. Is there any reason to have a goddamn player's union? Yet another instance of a terribly outmoded entity and example of where unions have far outlived their original useful, benevolent purposes. Fuck them.

[Rockindeano]

What an assembly of arm chair doctors in this thread !

The whole world is talking about it dude. Point is that Cutler seemed lifeless in every aspect of his attitude and how he handled himself after the fact too, sitting there with his jacket over his head not even speaking to anyone. In a sport in where players play with insane injuries, esp in huge games.. you know, to go to the Super Bowl, the spectacle of all professional sports, some may have wanted to see more from the leader of a football team.

Insane injuries? Yes, many do, but I can tell you Ladanlian Tomlinson has NO heart. He has about as much courage as an NBA player, pulling himself from games with a hangnail and a headache.

I am telling you guys, and I love both Matty and Trav, but you are both dead wrong on the MCL and Cutler.

Just my opinion.

[Rockindeano]

I agree with you, again Dan. Now seeing the Pack/Bears game, I think it was very gutless for Cutler to not even push his way back into the game, check that, not even a game, possibly the biggest game of the YEAR, esp for him and for sure his whole career. Didn't Phillip Rivers play his entire AFC Champ game against N.E on a torn MCL? Yeah, no excuse for this puss.

Are you kidding me? An MCL tear is usually worse than an ACL tear and he would've risked doing even more severe damage to the joint if he had tried. Unbelievable.

Bullshit, these pro athletes take shots & injections the size of a buzz-saw in those situations, atleast numb the damn thing, it's what football is all about. He still could have played, without question. He was walking fine and I think I saw him celebrate like a champ as well when the 3rd string QB looked like Montana before he threw the game deciding pick. I don't question the severity of knees, but they could have shot it up to the point to where he could have finished the game, or atleast fucking TRY.

YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT. You clearly have NO idea or experience when it comes to knee injuries like this. I DO. I have torn my ACL (100%) on BOTH knees and my MCL (100%) on my right knee. I also partially tore my MCL (left knee-30%). The MCL is clearly the more painful of the two. I DID play an entire year of college football with a torn ACL. The only problem was that it did hurt, but that was taken care of with meds and needles, but it also "gave out" all the time. The MCL is a completely different animal. You can't even limp with that injury. It is the most pain I have ever felt in my life. You can't man up that injury. Even the OG couldn't even play with a partial tear of the MCL. It is that fucking bad I tell you.

Trav, I am glad you have NO experience in knee pain/surgeries. I am glad you haven't had those injuries. I talk alot of shit on here obviously, but with this topic, I am the MR expert. I have had 7 knee surgeries, ACL(2), MCL once and meniscus clean ups. Meniscus is irritable, but one can definitely play through that pain. Same with cartiledge. Meniscus and cartiledge are just annoying.... These pros DO throw vicodin down and take the needle, as they should IMO, but the MCL...thwere is NO drug to conceal that pain. I would rather take a dick in my virgin asshole from Grape Ape on an all night bender, while Jabber Jaw fucks my mouth then play with a partial MCL tear.

I think all these assholes (players) that called outy Jay Cutler should apologize(if they had balls but they don't), and go fduck themselves with a ditch witch. Maurice jones drew can fuck off especially. here you got a pussy running back from that all too tough school UCLA , you know, the school that wears powder blue uniforms....and the guy has a hyphenated last name....WTF is HE calling out an NFL QB, attempting to play an NFC championship gamre in 1 degree weather? Let me guess, Maurice was at his home with a duraflame log simmering, watching the real champion caliber players, um, play.

You here that call Cutler a pussy clearly have No idea what you are talking about, and the fact that brian fucking urlacher not only defended him, but also called him one of the toughest guys on the field should tell you something....and oh yeah, MRI reveals the injury IS real.

Apologize or shut the fuck up! Hell, just trade Cutler straight up for Carson Palmer and BOTH teams will be happy.

What say you regarding Cutler's seeming lack of participation on the sideline, not helping Hanie out etc? That's my rub with him. Initially, I didn't see much of an injury, but concededly they are not always visible. I did think he might be pulling an LT (the shitty LT, not the statutory rapist but legendary LT) and just hiding from the big moment with a phantom injury. Even if he's not, it doesn't explain the rest of his behavior to me. I dunno. Guy has a history. That's the aggravating factor for me.

Yeah, I hear you..I am not Jay Cutler, and I personally would have been involved with the play somehow, someway. Maybe Cutler was so depressed he was just, well, frought with despair? I don't know the answer to that, especially when they were still in the game!

[RPM]

Even philip Rivers who HATES cutler said this:

"Me personally, I’d have to have been taken off in a cart," Rivers said. "That doesn’t mean I’d be right. If they knew he couldn’t throw the ball good, he wasn’t helping anybody ... I’ll never say what he should have done. I can't even say what I would have done in the same position. I do know I'm not coming out unless I can't do anything, and maybe that's how it was (for Cutler)."

Rivers noted that Cutler suffered the injury near the end of the second quarter and played a series to start the third quarter.

"It seems like he tried to go," Rivers said.

maybe the taken off in a cart scene would have made some feel better, glad it didnt
come to that.

[Rockindeano]

Another hit-and-run from me....

Fact is I saw Hanie looking at game photos while on the bench BY HIMSELF....Quitler was exactly that - a Quitter. Although he couldn't PLAY, he is still a starting NFL QB with game experience and therefore knowledge to relay to Hanie. Instead, he moped around on the bench with this deer-in-the-headlights look like he just completely lost interest in the game....The professional thing to do was to attach himself to Hanie and run through some things. Pitiful display by Vajayjay Cutler.....

Who are you, and what have you done with S2M?! Haha, good post dude. Agreed that Cutler seemed to just pout and moan rather than help out a QB in desperate need of all the knowledge he could gain, a 3rd stringer to boot. CHI fans have to be dissapointed with the whole ordeal.

Look at S2M calling Cutler a quitter, while S2M himself quit posting for 10 days after his beloved Pats got rolled in the playoffs. Too much.

[RedWingFan]

Another hit-and-run from me....

Fact is I saw Hanie looking at game photos while on the bench BY HIMSELF....Quitler was exactly that - a Quitter. Although he couldn't PLAY, he is still a starting NFL QB with game experience and therefore knowledge to relay to Hanie. Instead, he moped around on the bench with this deer-in-the-headlights look like he just completely lost interest in the game....The professional thing to do was to attach himself to Hanie and run through some things. Pitiful display by Vajayjay Cutler.....

Who are you, and what have you done with S2M?! Haha, good post dude. Agreed that Cutler seemed to just pout and moan rather than help out a QB in desperate need of all the knowledge he could gain, a 3rd stringer to boot. CHI fans have to be dissapointed with the whole ordeal.

Look at S2M calling Cutler a quitter, while S2M himself quit posting for 10 days after his beloved Pats got rolled in the playoffs. Too much.

Dude's already quit on his soccer thread!

[S2M]

Another hit-and-run from me....

Fact is I saw Hanie looking at game photos while on the bench BY HIMSELF....Quitler was exactly that - a Quitter. Although he couldn't PLAY, he is still a starting NFL QB with game experience and therefore knowledge to relay to Hanie. Instead, he moped around on the bench with this deer-in-the-headlights look like he just completely lost interest in the game....The professional thing to do was to attach himself to Hanie and run through some things. Pitiful display by Vajayjay Cutler.....

Who are you, and what have you done with S2M?! Haha, good post dude. Agreed that Cutler seemed to just pout and moan rather than help out a QB in desperate need of all the knowledge he could gain, a 3rd stringer to boot. CHI fans have to be dissapointed with the whole ordeal.

Look at S2M calling Cutler a quitter, while S2M himself quit posting for 10 days after his beloved Pats got rolled in the playoffs. Too much.

Fuck you! I had a partial tear of the RCL(Radial Collateral Ligament) of the MCP(Metacarpo-phalyngeal) joint of my Index finger....I couldn't type.

[Rockindeano]

Another hit-and-run from me....

Fact is I saw Hanie looking at game photos while on the bench BY HIMSELF....Quitler was exactly that - a Quitter. Although he couldn't PLAY, he is still a starting NFL QB with game experience and therefore knowledge to relay to Hanie. Instead, he moped around on the bench with this deer-in-the-headlights look like he just completely lost interest in the game....The professional thing to do was to attach himself to Hanie and run through some things. Pitiful display by Vajayjay Cutler.....

Who are you, and what have you done with S2M?! Haha, good post dude. Agreed that Cutler seemed to just pout and moan rather than help out a QB in desperate need of all the knowledge he could gain, a 3rd stringer to boot. CHI fans have to be dissapointed with the whole ordeal.

Look at S2M calling Cutler a quitter, while S2M himself quit posting for 10 days after his beloved Pats got rolled in the playoffs. Too much.

Fuck you! I had a partial tear of the RCL(Radial Collateral Ligament) of the MCP(Metacarpo-phalyngeal) joint of my Index finger....I couldn't type.

No seriously, you are indeed a pussy. I mean come on, you DO wear a white Duke visor. It doesn't get any softer than that Sean, does it? All you need now is to wear a white sweater over your shoulders and wrap the loose arms into a bow.

hahahahahahahahaah- Meow!

[S2M]

Dean - you are pretty much like Triumph the Insult Dog - and just as unfunny. The visor was blue, not white. But since you commented on it I'm sure it being a VISOR would be enough for the insults to fly. You wear a small child around your waist, we're even. Sorry, I'm not pushing 3 bills. I don't pop pills. My idea of fun isn't making home videos of my unit for all to see. I'm just not as well-rounded as you, I suppose....

[Ehwmatt]

Just so everyone's clear: He has a sprained MCL, not a torn MCL, for what that's worth.

[lights1961]

Just so everyone's clear: He has a sprained MCL, not a torn MCL, for what that's worth.

Does Chicago waive Cutler?? Or is he still the QB??? this will be one interesting off season in chitown...

[YoungJRNY]

Just so everyone's clear: He has a sprained MCL, not a torn MCL, for what that's worth.

They said he was walking around at the facilities with a slight limp. I just don't see how he was SO shattered that he couldn't put his body on the line like so many other QB's would have and have done before. Everyone is acting like he should have been put on a gurney but yet, he was still wondering the sidelines, not even grimacing one bit. Am I missing something? Wherever there's smoke, there's fire. Criticism is what it is for a reason. He's just going to have to deal with it, period. Besides, his teammates are behind him, big fucking deal now. It's already getting old.

[Rick]

Just so everyone's clear: He has a sprained MCL, not a torn MCL, for what that's worth.

They said he was walking around at the facilities with a slight limp. I just don't see how he was SO shattered that he couldn't put his body on the line like so many other QB's would have and have done before. Everyone is acting like he should have been put on a gurney but yet, he was still wondering the sidelines, not even grimacing one bit. Am I missing something? Wherever there's smoke, there's fire. Criticism is what it is for a reason. He's just going to have to deal with it, period. Besides, his teammates are behind him, big fucking deal now. It's already getting old.

He wasn't playing well before he got hurt, so leaving him in after he got hurt is a bad idea in that game. At that point, he's not the best they had, so you have to go with plan B, which proved to be more successful than plan A anyway.

[YoungJRNY]

Just so everyone's clear: He has a sprained MCL, not a torn MCL, for what that's worth.

They said he was walking around at the facilities with a slight limp. I just don't see how he was SO shattered that he couldn't put his body on the line like so many other QB's would have and have done before. Everyone is acting like he should have been put on a gurney but yet, he was still wondering the sidelines, not even grimacing one bit. Am I missing something? Wherever there's smoke, there's fire. Criticism is what it is for a reason. He's just going to have to deal with it, period. Besides, his teammates are behind him, big fucking deal now. It's already getting old.

He wasn't playing well before he got hurt, so leaving him in after he got hurt is a bad idea in that game. At that point, he's not the best they had, so you have to go with plan B, which proved to be more successful than plan A anyway.

Well, plan B was Todd Collins, which baffles my mind on how he is still in-taking an NFL paycheck. If the NFL wants to go to the lockout because of whatever reasons, they need to first terminate Todd Collin's contract IMMEDIATELY! He is simply stealing from the NFL. I have never seen such a horrendous QB in my life.

[RPM]

Just so everyone's clear: He has a sprained MCL, not a torn MCL, for what that's worth.

They said he was walking around at the facilities with a slight limp. I just don't see how he was SO shattered that he couldn't put his body on the line like so many other QB's would have and have done before. Everyone is acting like he should have been put on a gurney but yet, he was still wondering the sidelines, not even grimacing one bit. Am I missing something? Wherever there's smoke, there's fire. Criticism is what it is for a reason. He's just going to have to deal with it, period. Besides, his teammates are behind him, big fucking deal now. It's already getting old.

He wasn't playing well before he got hurt, so leaving him in after he got hurt is a bad idea in that game. At that point, he's not the best they had, so you have to go with plan B, which proved to be more successful than plan A anyway.

Well, plan B was Todd Collins, which baffles my mind on how he is still in-taking an NFL paycheck. If the NFL wants to go to the lockout because of whatever reasons, they need to first terminate Todd Collin's contract IMMEDIATELY! He is simply stealing from the NFL. I have never seen such a horrendous QB in my life.

Thats the truth right there, we got see him do that for a whole half of football before and everyone thought
no way they would keep him. but hey hes 16 years experience right ......what a joke.....i guess that game
was good for something!

[Rockindeano]

Just so everyone's clear: He has a sprained MCL, not a torn MCL, for what that's worth.

They said he was walking around at the facilities with a slight limp. I just don't see how he was SO shattered that he couldn't put his body on the line like so many other QB's would have and have done before. Everyone is acting like he should have been put on a gurney but yet, he was still wondering the sidelines, not even grimacing one bit. Am I missing something? Wherever there's smoke, there's fire. Criticism is what it is for a reason. He's just going to have to deal with it, period. Besides, his teammates are behind him, big fucking deal now. It's already getting old.

Tom, , if this was Benjamin Todd we were talking about instead of Jay Cutler, you would be defending him to the hilt ala Johnny Cochrane to OJ. You simply ARE missing the point. The guy isn't only really fucked up(Dan got this horribly wrong too- a meniscus and MCL are like earth and water)...he isn't only really fucked up, but the pain level is off the fucking charts. Even a dozen extra strength vikes won't mask it(cue that whore natalie running in here clamoring about pill abuse...and if she doesn't, cue that fuckhead Gator coming in and then going to tell on me to Natalie...what a fucked up couple they are)....the MCL is simply paralyzing. But like I said Trav, if BTR were the subject, you would be arguing my position right now.