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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Sat Sep 29, 2012 4:32 am

Obama supporter on Obama offerings:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNW4kEdBmhU

Obviously Hooked On Obonics.
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Postby Gin and Tonic Sky » Sat Sep 29, 2012 4:45 am

The Sushi Hunter wrote:Obama supporter talks about Obama offerings:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNW4kEdBmhU


Sushi, your link reminded me of this snippet I read this morning from an op-ed in a newspaper from Prague. Its right on the mark:

“The danger to America is not Barack Obama, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.

The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their President"
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Sat Sep 29, 2012 4:51 am

Gin and Tonic Sky wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:Obama supporter talks about Obama offerings:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNW4kEdBmhU


Sushi, your link reminded me of this snippet I read this morning from an op-ed in a newspaper from Prague. Its right on the mark:

“The danger to America is not Barack Obama, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.

The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their President"


Yep, I mentioned this earlier on a few pages back that it's the supporters who are more of a danger to America then the candidates themselves.
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Postby Behshad » Sat Sep 29, 2012 4:51 am

The Sushi Hunter wrote:Obama supporter on Obama offerings:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNW4kEdBmhU

Obviously Hooked On Obonics.


Of course you would fall for that, but the truth is she DID get a free phone. from ROMNEY , as a nice thank you for being part of Romney capmaign ad :) ;)
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Postby Behshad » Sat Sep 29, 2012 4:53 am

The Sushi Hunter wrote:
Gin and Tonic Sky wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:Obama supporter talks about Obama offerings:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNW4kEdBmhU


Sushi, your link reminded me of this snippet I read this morning from an op-ed in a newspaper from Prague. Its right on the mark:

“The danger to America is not Barack Obama, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.

The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their President"


Yep, I mentioned this earlier on a few pages back that it's the supporters who are more of a danger to America then the candidate themself's.


Did you mention the same, when supporters of Bush voted him in? Twice ! ;)
You are truly open minded ! :lol:
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Sat Sep 29, 2012 5:01 am

Behshad wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:
Gin and Tonic Sky wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:Obama supporter talks about Obama offerings:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNW4kEdBmhU


Sushi, your link reminded me of this snippet I read this morning from an op-ed in a newspaper from Prague. Its right on the mark:

“The danger to America is not Barack Obama, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.

The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their President"


Yep, I mentioned this earlier on a few pages back that it's the supporters who are more of a danger to America then the candidate themself's.


Did you mention the same, when supporters of Bush voted him in? Twice ! ;)
You are truly open minded ! :lol:


Please link the Bush first or second term thread where I "did" or "didn't" mention that.
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Postby Behshad » Sat Sep 29, 2012 5:13 am

The Sushi Hunter wrote:
Behshad wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:
Gin and Tonic Sky wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:Obama supporter talks about Obama offerings:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNW4kEdBmhU


Sushi, your link reminded me of this snippet I read this morning from an op-ed in a newspaper from Prague. Its right on the mark:

“The danger to America is not Barack Obama, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.

The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their President"


Yep, I mentioned this earlier on a few pages back that it's the supporters who are more of a danger to America then the candidate themself's.


Did you mention the same, when supporters of Bush voted him in? Twice ! ;)
You are truly open minded ! :lol:


Please link the Bush first or second term thread where I "did" or "didn't" mention that.


I asked you! Is that your final answer ? :)
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:00 am

Behshad wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:
Behshad wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:
Gin and Tonic Sky wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:Obama supporter talks about Obama offerings:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNW4kEdBmhU


Sushi, your link reminded me of this snippet I read this morning from an op-ed in a newspaper from Prague. Its right on the mark:

“The danger to America is not Barack Obama, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.

The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their President"


Yep, I mentioned this earlier on a few pages back that it's the supporters who are more of a danger to America then the candidate themself's.


Did you mention the same, when supporters of Bush voted him in? Twice ! ;)
You are truly open minded ! :lol:


Please link the Bush first or second term thread where I "did" or "didn't" mention that.


I asked you! Is that your final answer ? :)


I see, sorry I miss read your post. I thought you were saying I didn't say the same thing when Bush ran for election and then re-election.
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:08 am

Fact Finder wrote:Great, just great....

Panetta: We’ve Lost Track of Syrian Chemical Weapons

The U.S. has lost track of some of Syria’s chemical weapons, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said Friday, and does not know if any potentially lethal chemicals have fallen into the hands of Syrian rebels or Iranian forces inside the country.

“There has been intelligence that there have been some moves that have taken place. Where exactly that’s taken place, we don’t know.” Panetta said, in a Pentagon press briefing.


That's basically what happened to weapons in Lybia's military once the government was overthrown. It's the International version of Fast and Furious just about. Just wait and see what terrorist attacks these weapons turn up at. Surprised none of them showed up as being used at the site of the recent September 11 attack in Lybia, or maybe they have but we've just not been told about that yet.
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Postby Seven Wishes2 » Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:25 am

Shocker!

Fox viewers are the least knowledgeable and worst-informed news viewers in the world. Proof is in the pudding. Put this in your corn cob pipe and smoke it.

http://publicmind.fdu.edu/2012/confirmed/final.pdf

A study conducted by Fairleigh Dickinson University in Madison, New Jersey, found that the average American was able to correctly answer 1.8 out of four questions on international news and 1.6 out of five on domestic.

Fox News followers however only answered 1.04 domestic questions correctly, which is worse than those who said they watched no media at all – which stood at 1.22.

The study, which surveyed 1,185 people, found that in comparison, those who listened to National Public Radio fared best, answering 1.51 questions correctly, while those watching The Daily Show, which mixes current affairs with humour, scored 1.42.
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Postby Seven Wishes2 » Sat Sep 29, 2012 4:39 pm

Oooh! Big shocker! The GOP vote-rigging and vote-stealing machine is up and running in Florida.

http://news.yahoo.com/voter-registration-problems-widening-florida-154156242--election.html

What first appeared to be an isolated problem in one Florida county has now spread statewide, with election officials in nine counties informing prosecutors or state election officials about questionable voter registration forms filled out on behalf of the Republican Party of Florida.

State Republican officials already have fired the vendor it had hired to register voters, and took the additional step of filing an election fraud complaint against the company, Strategic Allied Consulting, with state officials. That complaint was handed over Friday to state law-enforcement authorities.
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Postby steveo777 » Sat Sep 29, 2012 4:52 pm

Next week you're gonna see a lot of states turn red when the true impact of the Libya coverup is exposed. The Solyndra card is also going to get played, especially the part where millions of dollars just went "poof" and nobody is really being held accountable. I guess that's just part of Obama's entitlement programs, leading right up to this biggie fail:

http://rt.com/usa/news/solyndra-solar-m ... nergy-899/

SoloPower, a small solar power start-up company, is eligible for a $197 million federal loan guarantee awarded under the same government program that gave $535 million to the failed panel maker Solyndra.


If Romney is smart enough to play these cards, you might as well put a fork in Obama. He's done!
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Postby Behshad » Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:38 pm

steveo777 wrote:Next week you're gonna see a lot of states turn red when the true impact of the Libya coverup is exposed. The Solyndra card is also going to get played, especially the part where millions of dollars just went "poof" and nobody is really being held accountable. I guess that's just part of Obama's entitlement programs, leading right up to this biggie fail:

http://rt.com/usa/news/solyndra-solar-m ... nergy-899/

SoloPower, a small solar power start-up company, is eligible for a $197 million federal loan guarantee awarded under the same government program that gave $535 million to the failed panel maker Solyndra.


If Romney is smart enough to play these cards, you might as well put a fork in Obama. He's done!



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Postby Behshad » Sun Sep 30, 2012 12:06 am

Fact Finder wrote:
The Newsweek Poll: Bush Makes No Inroads

While the GOP campaign founders, Gore solidifies his lead

September 16, 2000 — Democratic presidential nominee Al Gore leads Republican rival George W. Bush by twelve points, according to a new Newsweek poll conducted Sept. 14 and 15. Among registered voters, Gore holds a 50 percent to 38 percent advantage, statistically unchanged from his 47-to-39 percent edge in last week’s poll.


:o



At least you still have 12 year old articles giving you some hope. Of course your article is before the recounts ( read cheating) ;)

If Romney uses the same method as Bush, he might succeed, but looks like they got caught and he may have to find other ways to get more votes ;)
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Postby Behshad » Sun Sep 30, 2012 12:32 am

Fact Finder wrote:
Behshad wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:
The Newsweek Poll: Bush Makes No Inroads

While the GOP campaign founders, Gore solidifies his lead

September 16, 2000 — Democratic presidential nominee Al Gore leads Republican rival George W. Bush by twelve points, according to a new Newsweek poll conducted Sept. 14 and 15. Among registered voters, Gore holds a 50 percent to 38 percent advantage, statistically unchanged from his 47-to-39 percent edge in last week’s poll.


:o



At least you still have 12 year old articles giving you some hope. Of course your article is before the recounts ( read cheating) ;)

If Romney uses the same method as Bush, he might succeed, but looks like they got caught and he may have to find other ways to get more votes ;)



Good morning sunshine! :)


How do you like Team Romney's prediction of the first debate ? :P :lol:
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Postby Behshad » Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:15 am

Fact Finder wrote:
Behshad wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:
Behshad wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:
The Newsweek Poll: Bush Makes No Inroads

While the GOP campaign founders, Gore solidifies his lead

September 16, 2000 — Democratic presidential nominee Al Gore leads Republican rival George W. Bush by twelve points, according to a new Newsweek poll conducted Sept. 14 and 15. Among registered voters, Gore holds a 50 percent to 38 percent advantage, statistically unchanged from his 47-to-39 percent edge in last week’s poll.


:o



At least you still have 12 year old articles giving you some hope. Of course your article is before the recounts ( read cheating) ;)

If Romney uses the same method as Bush, he might succeed, but looks like they got caught and he may have to find other ways to get more votes ;)



Good morning sunshine! :)


How do you like Team Romney's prediction of the first debate ? :P :lol:



I heard Mitt say he was going to use the debates to call out Obamas lies. Should be easy to do. :D


Well guess you didnt se where Romney's senior advisor basically said the debate isnt all that important and Obama has the edge cause he has been in 8 presidential debates vs 0 for Romney.
It's gonna be fun to watch Romney sweat on Wednesday :)
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Postby Memorex » Sun Sep 30, 2012 4:24 am

Following up on my earlier post about Libya - I think Obama owes Americans a sincere apology, from the white house podium or even the oval office and Hillary (who I am generally a fan of) should resign.

I'm sure Obama wants everyone talking about who will do worse in the debates, but this is what everyone should be talking about. He owes the families of the four Americans that died an apology for the disgraceful way in which his administration purposely tried to deceive the world just to save face.

Kudos to CNN and Fox for doing some actual journalism for a change.
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Postby Monker » Sun Sep 30, 2012 5:12 am

I agree "if Romney is smart enough...." The last time I remember a campaign being run this badly was Dukakis.



Behshad wrote:
steveo777 wrote:Next week you're gonna see a lot of states turn red when the true impact of the Libya coverup is exposed. The Solyndra card is also going to get played, especially the part where millions of dollars just went "poof" and nobody is really being held accountable. I guess that's just part of Obama's entitlement programs, leading right up to this biggie fail:

http://rt.com/usa/news/solyndra-solar-m ... nergy-899/

SoloPower, a small solar power start-up company, is eligible for a $197 million federal loan guarantee awarded under the same government program that gave $535 million to the failed panel maker Solyndra.


If Romney is smart enough to play these cards, you might as well put a fork in Obama. He's done!



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Postby Monker » Sun Sep 30, 2012 5:16 am

Behshad wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:
Behshad wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:
Behshad wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:
The Newsweek Poll: Bush Makes No Inroads

While the GOP campaign founders, Gore solidifies his lead

September 16, 2000 — Democratic presidential nominee Al Gore leads Republican rival George W. Bush by twelve points, according to a new Newsweek poll conducted Sept. 14 and 15. Among registered voters, Gore holds a 50 percent to 38 percent advantage, statistically unchanged from his 47-to-39 percent edge in last week’s poll.


:o



At least you still have 12 year old articles giving you some hope. Of course your article is before the recounts ( read cheating) ;)

If Romney uses the same method as Bush, he might succeed, but looks like they got caught and he may have to find other ways to get more votes ;)



Good morning sunshine! :)


How do you like Team Romney's prediction of the first debate ? :P :lol:



I heard Mitt say he was going to use the debates to call out Obamas lies. Should be easy to do. :D


Well guess you didnt se where Romney's senior advisor basically said the debate isnt all that important and Obama has the edge cause he has been in 8 presidential debates vs 0 for Romney.
It's gonna be fun to watch Romney sweat on Wednesday :)


That's called lowering expectations...Romney sucks at debates. He comes off as a pompous ass.

If any other Republican candidate had made themselves viable - Romney wouldn't be nominated. He got the nod because everybody else sucked worse then he does.
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Postby Monker » Sun Sep 30, 2012 5:19 am

Memorex wrote:Following up on my earlier post about Libya - I think Obama owes Americans a sincere apology, from the white house podium or even the oval office and Hillary (who I am generally a fan of) should resign.

I'm sure Obama wants everyone talking about who will do worse in the debates, but this is what everyone should be talking about. He owes the families of the four Americans that died an apology for the disgraceful way in which his administration purposely tried to deceive the world just to save face.

Kudos to CNN and Fox for doing some actual journalism for a change.


Maybe 'it should be' what everybody talks about. But, nobody really cares much. Romney may try to make it an issue...but he hasn't been able to "make" much of anything an issue. He's drives the conversation about as well as he drives his dog on vacation.
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Postby Seven Wishes2 » Sun Sep 30, 2012 6:04 am

Reagan put our marines in Lebanon in 1982 without bullets in their rifles, and 250 of them were blown up. Conservatives didn't call for an investigation on that.

One can only imagine how Fox would have gone after a Democratic president if 3,000 Americans had been blown up in one day, and then he would have invaded a country and occupied it on absolutey fabricated intelligence...losing 5,000 soldiers in the process, along with over 30,000 wounded. If Obama would have let Osama bin Laden go in Tora Bora back in 2002 Fox would still be talking about it.

Riots in the middle east and people getting killed is news worthy. LBJ started a war based on a lie, Nixon continued the war and put troops in Laos and Cambodia without anyone's knowledge, Reagan traded arms for hostages with IRAN! To compare an intelligence failure and a attack on an embassy that resulted in four unfortunate casualties with any of these is to blow things so out of proportion its reeks of pathetic desperation.
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Sun Sep 30, 2012 6:05 am

Behshad wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:
Gin and Tonic Sky wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:Obama supporter talks about Obama offerings:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNW4kEdBmhU


Sushi, your link reminded me of this snippet I read this morning from an op-ed in a newspaper from Prague. Its right on the mark:

“The danger to America is not Barack Obama, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince.

The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their President"


Yep, I mentioned this earlier on a few pages back that it's the supporters who are more of a danger to America then the candidate themself's.


Did you mention the same, when supporters of Bush voted him in? Twice ! ;)
You are truly open minded ! :lol:


My "open minded" comment is in reference to how I view who is ahead or behind in the polls and who is or is not going to win the election.
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Postby Seven Wishes2 » Sun Sep 30, 2012 6:32 am

(This is code for: we need to kick out of the country any American with the audacity to vote for the black man.)
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Postby Seven Wishes2 » Sun Sep 30, 2012 6:33 am

Bump. Please comment, RWF and LieFinder!

Seven Wishes wrote:Shocker!

Fox viewers are the least knowledgeable and worst-informed news viewers in the world. Proof is in the pudding. Put this in your corn cob pipe and smoke it.

http://publicmind.fdu.edu/2012/confirmed/final.pdf

A study conducted by Fairleigh Dickinson University in Madison, New Jersey, found that the average American was able to correctly answer 1.8 out of four questions on international news and 1.6 out of five on domestic.

Fox News followers however only answered 1.04 domestic questions correctly, which is worse than those who said they watched no media at all – which stood at 1.22.

The study, which surveyed 1,185 people, found that in comparison, those who listened to National Public Radio fared best, answering 1.51 questions correctly, while those watching The Daily Show, which mixes current affairs with humour, scored 1.42.
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Postby Memorex » Sun Sep 30, 2012 6:52 am

Monker wrote:
Memorex wrote:Following up on my earlier post about Libya - I think Obama owes Americans a sincere apology, from the white house podium or even the oval office and Hillary (who I am generally a fan of) should resign.

I'm sure Obama wants everyone talking about who will do worse in the debates, but this is what everyone should be talking about. He owes the families of the four Americans that died an apology for the disgraceful way in which his administration purposely tried to deceive the world just to save face.

Kudos to CNN and Fox for doing some actual journalism for a change.


Maybe 'it should be' what everybody talks about. But, nobody really cares much. Romney may try to make it an issue...but he hasn't been able to "make" much of anything an issue. He's drives the conversation about as well as he drives his dog on vacation.


This isn't about Romney or politics or the campaign. It's about the relationship between the American people and it's leaders (who we employ). I give a lot of leeway to presidents in regards to keeping information out of the public discussion, even allowing for some lies. But in this case, it's truly truly disgusting. Hilary should have stood up to this and not played politics.
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Postby Seven Wishes2 » Sun Sep 30, 2012 6:57 am

Bullshit. If Obama was a wingnut like you this would be a non-starter. Total double-standard. Compared with what I just posted, this is a drop of ant shit in a steaming pile of elephant shit.
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Postby Memorex » Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:00 am

Seven Wishes wrote:Reagan put our marines in Lebanon in 1982 without bullets in their rifles, and 250 of them were blown up. Conservatives didn't call for an investigation on that.

One can only imagine how Fox would have gone after a Democratic president if 3,000 Americans had been blown up in one day, and then he would have invaded a country and occupied it on absolutey fabricated intelligence...losing 5,000 soldiers in the process, along with over 30,000 wounded. If Obama would have let Osama bin Laden go in Tora Bora back in 2002 Fox would still be talking about it.

Riots in the middle east and people getting killed is news worthy. LBJ started a war based on a lie, Nixon continued the war and put troops in Laos and Cambodia without anyone's knowledge, Reagan traded arms for hostages with IRAN! To compare an intelligence failure and a attack on an embassy that resulted in four unfortunate casualties with any of these is to blow things so out of proportion its reeks of pathetic desperation.


Dude - I am not comparing anything - just talking about a single isolated incident. And um, I believe the Bush administration took plenty of hits on the Iraq war, as far as retiring and resigning personnel. This has nothing to do with Fox or anything. Two (or 5) wrongs do not make a right.

And for you to call this an intelligence failure just shows me that the American public is made up of sheep that are willing to buy any stupid fucking information from their "team" in order to protect that "team". And yes - that's true on both sides. If you as an intelligent being cannot look at this and see if for what it is - a complete lie and dis-information campaign aimed at saving face - then I could not possibly take serious anything else you can ever say.

To reply to my comments with stuff about Republicans, like saying, "I know I am but what are you" is what is wrong with this country. This issue has ZERO to do with Republicans or Democrats. ZERO. Wrong is wrong no matter what side of the aisle. And if you can't say it, then you are simply a bubble-headed cheerleader swallowing the jiz of your quarterback and saying you are doing it to support the team.

No offense to any cheerleaders.

You know - No I am even more upset that someone I know is intelligent, like you, chooses to give a pass on this. Can't we even agree on the things that are just plain wrong?
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Postby Memorex » Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:03 am

Let's see. I'm an independent that supports gay rights, gay marriage, pro-choice, anti-late term murder, less taxes, less government.

If I am a wingnut, then so is 90% of the country. Stop calling names and just address the issue or not.
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Postby Seven Wishes2 » Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:05 am

OK, point made. I just think it's being overblown. Compared with the fabrication of a letter of a non-existent purchase of yellow cake by a secular government via a terrorist organization as THE pretense for an unncessary and probably illegal war, this is nothing.

Now, THIS is a big deal.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/28/warrantless-electronic-surveillance-obama_n_1924508.html?utm_hp_ref=elections-2012

THIS makes Obama a hypocrite at best. Talk about breaking a campaign promise.
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Postby Memorex » Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:11 am

Seven Wishes wrote:OK, point made. I just think it's being overblown. Compared with the fabrication of a letter of a non-existent purchase of yellow cake by a secular government via a terrorist organization as THE pretense for an unncessary and probably illegal war, this is nothing.

Now, THIS is a big deal.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/28/warrantless-electronic-surveillance-obama_n_1924508.html?utm_hp_ref=elections-2012

THIS makes Obama a hypocrite at best. Talk about breaking a campaign promise.


I can't recall a time when a president gave back some power. Seems to me all presidents have always increased their power. If Romney is elected, he will find new ways to stretch that power. That's why no matter what party or belief you align with, the citizens should start fighting this intrusion more and more.

The first time I see a drone near my house, I'm going to lose it. Americans have a right to move freely without molestation. Leave me alone until I commit a crime. And once I serve my punishment, go back to leaving me alone.

Except of course rapists and pedophiles. Stick surveillance cameras up their ass.
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