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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:28 am

I don't have to even click on that link to know it's total bullshit written by bullshit "guardian".

Saddam may not have had anything to do with 9-11 directly, but he didn't allow weapons inspectors in but spewed claims of having devistating weapons in his arsonal. Not only that, in '91 after we reduced much of Saddam's National Guards into a smoldering heap of chicken nuggets in the sand, terrorst groups then went into Iraq and set up Anti-American terrorist training facilities there.
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Postby Behshad » Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:58 am

The Sushi Hunter wrote:I don't have to even click on that link to know it's total bullshit written by bullshit "guardian".

Saddam may not have had anything to do with 9-11 directly, but he didn't allow weapons inspectors in but spewed claims of having devistating weapons in his arsonal. Not only that, in '91 after we reduced much of Saddam's National Guards into a smoldering heap of chicken nuggets in the sand, terrorst groups then went into Iraq and set up Anti-American terrorist training facilities there.


The terroist who attacked on 9/11 were trained in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Pakistan and even here in US.

They have terrorist activities in Iraq, yes, but none linked to 9/11 . And the 2003 Iraq war did not help eliminate the terrorist network in Iraq, did it ?
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:01 am

Behshad wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:I don't have to even click on that link to know it's total bullshit written by bullshit "guardian".

Saddam may not have had anything to do with 9-11 directly, but he didn't allow weapons inspectors in but spewed claims of having devistating weapons in his arsonal. Not only that, in '91 after we reduced much of Saddam's National Guards into a smoldering heap of chicken nuggets in the sand, terrorst groups then went into Iraq and set up Anti-American terrorist training facilities there.


The terroist who attacked on 9/11 were trained in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Pakistan and even here in US.

They have terrorist activities in Iraq, yes, but none linked to 9/11 . And the 2003 Iraq war did not help eliminate the terrorist network in Iraq, did it ?


I don't have intelligence information as to what all the war in Iraq has helped eliminate. As I'm sure there are things the civilian population does not have access to. Right off the bat what did come out of the war in Iraq was the removal of that human buttplug Saddam once and for all and proving that he did not have any of the weapons or technology that he had for so many years claimed to have in his arsonal.
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Postby Behshad » Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:06 am

The Sushi Hunter wrote:
Behshad wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:I don't have to even click on that link to know it's total bullshit written by bullshit "guardian".

Saddam may not have had anything to do with 9-11 directly, but he didn't allow weapons inspectors in but spewed claims of having devistating weapons in his arsonal. Not only that, in '91 after we reduced much of Saddam's National Guards into a smoldering heap of chicken nuggets in the sand, terrorst groups then went into Iraq and set up Anti-American terrorist training facilities there.


The terroist who attacked on 9/11 were trained in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Pakistan and even here in US.

They have terrorist activities in Iraq, yes, but none linked to 9/11 . And the 2003 Iraq war did not help eliminate the terrorist network in Iraq, did it ?


I don't have intelligence information as to what all the war in Iraq has helped eliminate. As I'm sure there are things the civilian population does not have access to. Right off the bat what did come out of the war in Iraq was the removal of that human buttplug Saddam once and for all and proving that he did not have any of the weapons or technology that he had for so many years claimed to have in his arsonal.


Exactly he didnt have the weapons, yet we insisted that he did and we were proven wrong. Again, he killed his own people, but he was no threat to us and more Iraqis were killed between 2003-2011 than the prior 8 years. So while an evil man has indeed been removed from power, Iraq is still not a sace and secured country and they still harbor terrorism and there's still Iraqis getting killed = waste of our money and our troops lives to go into a war that we didnt really win.
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Postby Behshad » Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:09 am

The Sushi Hunter wrote:
Behshad wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:I don't have to even click on that link to know it's total bullshit written by bullshit "guardian".

Saddam may not have had anything to do with 9-11 directly, but he didn't allow weapons inspectors in but spewed claims of having devistating weapons in his arsonal. Not only that, in '91 after we reduced much of Saddam's National Guards into a smoldering heap of chicken nuggets in the sand, terrorst groups then went into Iraq and set up Anti-American terrorist training facilities there.


The terroist who attacked on 9/11 were trained in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Pakistan and even here in US.

They have terrorist activities in Iraq, yes, but none linked to 9/11 . And the 2003 Iraq war did not help eliminate the terrorist network in Iraq, did it ?


I don't have intelligence .


You don't say ? :lol: :P
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:26 am

Tomorrow's debate looks like it's going to shape up to be be pretty intense, of course only if Obama's body doesn't reject Biden's balls transplant. Obama's supposed to be coming out balls swinging this round.
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Postby Behshad » Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:03 am

Fact Finder wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:Tomorrow's debate looks like it's going to shape up to be be pretty intense, of course only if Obama's body doesn't reject Biden's balls transplant. Obama's supposed to be coming out balls swinging this round.



He better be, he's looking at a few bumps in the road ahead.


USA TODAY/Gallup Poll shows Romney leading Obama 51%-46% among likely voters in the swing states. Men who are likely voters back him 54%-42%. The states are Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin...


WOW, with those polls and as accurate as they are, Obama shouldnt even bother and quit today and give the key to the whitehouse to Mitt&Bean this week !
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Postby slucero » Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:12 am

Memorex wrote:Libya. I know some on here think that 4 Americans dead and our own State Department and even our president lying to us is no big deal, but....

Why are there congressional hearings before I'm hearing about retaliation or capture of the people who did this. I know there are a few arrests, most of which are for people not likely involved. It seems to me that in the past, we have acted pretty swiftly when attacked. I'm not even hearing tough talk. The conversation seems to be about the cover up and not the actual act.

I feel angrier by the day on this. I think for a couple reasons. Number one, I believe the president and Hilary both knew what was happening while the attack was happening. You'd have to be pretty blind not to know what this was, at least by the fourth hour of the attack. And at the very least by that evening, US time.

So before he hits the podium to talk to Americans like a normal person, he runs off to a fundraiser. Then there is all this dis-information about a video, which is sad in and of itself.

The worst part, all this video talk 5, 6, 10 days later. Thankfully I believe they were purposefully misleading the public and not actually that fucking stupid. Cause if they were, God help us.

And then to march some lady out to say that the only reason this is a hot topic is because of Romney and Ryan???? WTF?? I am sure Romney and Ryan will make the most of what they can on this. But I am pissed about it and I haven't heard them mention it once. I'm sure they have, but since I don't listen to their speeches, I haven't heard it.

I'm really disappointed in Hilary. I thought she had done a pretty damn good job these past four years. You can see the work she has put in. But she went out there like a sheep and allowed this and she should resign. I know she is leaving after the election anyway, but this was completely unacceptable.

And the press needs to do their work on this to the point that Obama personally apologizes and admits whatever role he had in it. They won't and he won't, I'm sure.



the FBI retrieved a video tape from the Benghazi mission, and it shows an organized attack. They also now have photos from a drone overhead covering the final hour of the attack.

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Postby Monker » Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:41 am

Memorex wrote:I have mixed feelings on war. But generally I feel as though if you kill your own people and the people are powerless, then countries like ours should get in there and remove the leaders. I often think what if our government turned on us. What if they started killing tens of thousands of us, just for standing up. How long would we want another country to wait before they came in and gave us a hand?

I think there is a huge amount of racism in a lot of this. To me, if you think the USA should not have gotten rid of Saddam, then you probably care a whole lot less about an Iraqi human than an American. And I just don't feel that way. I think all people should be free of violence. I care just as much for those Iraqi people as I do for my neighbors and so I think we actually don't do enough. Violence the way it happens in these countries should simply not be tolerated by any other country.

So yea - I'm glad we went to Iraq and I wish we would go all over until it stopped. Let people live without that fear for God's sake.


You damn right I care more about the people of the USA then Iraq. When W. start rattling his sabers we were already not that strong economically...and for that reason alone I felt it was a war we could not afford. The government of this country needs to take care of its own people before they go and try to build democracy in other countries.

It was a war fought for the wrong reasons, at the wrong time, by the wrong President - a complete waste of trillions of dollars.
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Postby Monker » Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:48 am

Behshad wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:
Behshad wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:I don't have to even click on that link to know it's total bullshit written by bullshit "guardian".

Saddam may not have had anything to do with 9-11 directly, but he didn't allow weapons inspectors in but spewed claims of having devistating weapons in his arsonal. Not only that, in '91 after we reduced much of Saddam's National Guards into a smoldering heap of chicken nuggets in the sand, terrorst groups then went into Iraq and set up Anti-American terrorist training facilities there.


The terroist who attacked on 9/11 were trained in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Pakistan and even here in US.

They have terrorist activities in Iraq, yes, but none linked to 9/11 . And the 2003 Iraq war did not help eliminate the terrorist network in Iraq, did it ?


I don't have intelligence information as to what all the war in Iraq has helped eliminate. As I'm sure there are things the civilian population does not have access to. Right off the bat what did come out of the war in Iraq was the removal of that human buttplug Saddam once and for all and proving that he did not have any of the weapons or technology that he had for so many years claimed to have in his arsonal.


Exactly he didnt have the weapons, yet we insisted that he did and we were proven wrong. Again, he killed his own people, but he was no threat to us and more Iraqis were killed between 2003-2011 than the prior 8 years. So while an evil man has indeed been removed from power, Iraq is still not a sace and secured country and they still harbor terrorism and there's still Iraqis getting killed = waste of our money and our troops lives to go into a war that we didnt really win.


The simple fact is that Iraq is more of a terrorist problem today then they were under Saddam. People who believe we went to Iraq to fight terrorism are very naive and don't understand the facts.
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Postby steveo777 » Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:52 am

The Sushi Hunter wrote:Tomorrow's debate looks like it's going to shape up to be be pretty intense, of course only if Obama's body doesn't reject Biden's balls transplant. Obama's supposed to be coming out balls swinging this round.


It will be interesting to see if Obama plays the Bain card. This could backfire on him big time, essentially ending the race.
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Postby Monker » Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:53 am

The Sushi Hunter wrote:
Behshad wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:I don't have to even click on that link to know it's total bullshit written by bullshit "guardian".

Saddam may not have had anything to do with 9-11 directly, but he didn't allow weapons inspectors in but spewed claims of having devistating weapons in his arsonal. Not only that, in '91 after we reduced much of Saddam's National Guards into a smoldering heap of chicken nuggets in the sand, terrorst groups then went into Iraq and set up Anti-American terrorist training facilities there.


The terroist who attacked on 9/11 were trained in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Pakistan and even here in US.

They have terrorist activities in Iraq, yes, but none linked to 9/11 . And the 2003 Iraq war did not help eliminate the terrorist network in Iraq, did it ?


I don't have intelligence information as to what all the war in Iraq has helped eliminate. As I'm sure there are things the civilian population does not have access to. Right off the bat what did come out of the war in Iraq was the removal of that human buttplug Saddam once and for all and proving that he did not have any of the weapons or technology that he had for so many years claimed to have in his arsonal.


Cuba is more of a threat to the US then Iraq ever was. By your logic we should send the troops in.

Saddam claimed to have those weapons scare Iran and others in the region - not the US.

There was no excuse for that war - NONE.
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Postby Monker » Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:56 am

steveo777 wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:Tomorrow's debate looks like it's going to shape up to be be pretty intense, of course only if Obama's body doesn't reject Biden's balls transplant. Obama's supposed to be coming out balls swinging this round.


It will be interesting to see if Obama plays the Bain card. This could backfire on him big time, essentially ending the race.


...and it could backfire on Romney for the same reasons, if he chooses to bring it up.

I think that issue is too old now and neither side will bring it up.
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Postby Memorex » Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:12 pm

I see Hilary is coming out now and accepting blame. I glad and hopefully this will lead to the facts coming out. Press needs to address it head on though.
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Postby steveo777 » Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:23 pm

Memorex wrote:I see Hilary is coming out now and accepting blame. I glad and hopefully this will lead to the facts coming out. Press needs to address it head on though.


This is kind of late, but I'm glad to see the accountability....finally. Nobody would have cared to come clean, were it not that the President is trying to get reelected.
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Postby Gin and Tonic Sky » Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:08 pm

Fact Finder wrote:This is a desperate move by a scared Democratic Party.


Or perhaps Hilary trying to one up Obama secretly - I can take accountability and you cant, and again a Clinton has to save you. I've heard reports that there will be retaliatory airstrike or drone strike before the election, I wonder what the political effect of that will be?
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Postby Behshad » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:50 am

Fact Finder wrote:Behshad is deeply saddened.. :lol: :lol:


A DailyKos/SEIU Poll....OH MY! :shock:


Romney hits 50%, leads by 4 in PPP/Daily Kos national poll

Last week, I approvingly linked the Daily Kos’ report on the PPP poll it commissioned when it showed Mitt Romney leading by two point, 49/47. Markos Moulitsas responded with some snark on Twitter, wondering if I’d link future polling from his site, and I said I probably would. Since I am a man of my word, here is the latest Daily Kos/PPP weekly polling result — which turned out to be even more painful than the first for Markos:

Public Policy Polling for Daily Kos & SEIU. 10/12-14. Likely voters. MoE ±2.5% (10/4-7 results) The candidates for President are Democrat Barack Obama and Republican Mitt Romney. If the election was today, who would you vote for?Obama 46 (47) Romney 50 (49)

At a time when other polls are moving back in the president’s direction, our own weekly poll by Public Policy Polling saw the opposite—a two-point Romney gain. Per day:

Friday (38%) Obama 47, Romney 49 Saturday (39%) Obama 49, Romney 47 Sunday (24%) Obama 43, Romney 55


http://hotair.com/archives/2012/10/16/r ... onal-poll/



Yep, I am deeply saddened when you only share the polls that say Romney is ahead, but when actual early votes indicate the opposite, you say its a lie :lol:

I think based on all the polls you have shared with us, Obama needs to really consider quitting the race and announce Romney as the winner before Nov 6th. I mean who really needs vote results when the polls are indicating that Obama doesnt have a chance ? :?
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:20 am

Monker wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:
Behshad wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:I don't have to even click on that link to know it's total bullshit written by bullshit "guardian".

Saddam may not have had anything to do with 9-11 directly, but he didn't allow weapons inspectors in but spewed claims of having devistating weapons in his arsonal. Not only that, in '91 after we reduced much of Saddam's National Guards into a smoldering heap of chicken nuggets in the sand, terrorst groups then went into Iraq and set up Anti-American terrorist training facilities there.


The terroist who attacked on 9/11 were trained in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Pakistan and even here in US.

They have terrorist activities in Iraq, yes, but none linked to 9/11 . And the 2003 Iraq war did not help eliminate the terrorist network in Iraq, did it ?


I don't have intelligence information as to what all the war in Iraq has helped eliminate. As I'm sure there are things the civilian population does not have access to. Right off the bat what did come out of the war in Iraq was the removal of that human buttplug Saddam once and for all and proving that he did not have any of the weapons or technology that he had for so many years claimed to have in his arsonal.


Cuba is more of a threat to the US then Iraq ever was. By your logic we should send the troops in.

Saddam claimed to have those weapons scare Iran and others in the region - not the US.

There was no excuse for that war - NONE.


Closed minded Dems such you are an even bigger threat, the biggest threat is a threat from within.
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Postby Behshad » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:21 am

The Sushi Hunter wrote:
Monker wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:
Behshad wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:I don't have to even click on that link to know it's total bullshit written by bullshit "guardian".

Saddam may not have had anything to do with 9-11 directly, but he didn't allow weapons inspectors in but spewed claims of having devistating weapons in his arsonal. Not only that, in '91 after we reduced much of Saddam's National Guards into a smoldering heap of chicken nuggets in the sand, terrorst groups then went into Iraq and set up Anti-American terrorist training facilities there.


The terroist who attacked on 9/11 were trained in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Pakistan and even here in US.

They have terrorist activities in Iraq, yes, but none linked to 9/11 . And the 2003 Iraq war did not help eliminate the terrorist network in Iraq, did it ?


I don't have intelligence information as to what all the war in Iraq has helped eliminate. As I'm sure there are things the civilian population does not have access to. Right off the bat what did come out of the war in Iraq was the removal of that human buttplug Saddam once and for all and proving that he did not have any of the weapons or technology that he had for so many years claimed to have in his arsonal.


Cuba is more of a threat to the US then Iraq ever was. By your logic we should send the troops in.

Saddam claimed to have those weapons scare Iran and others in the region - not the US.

There was no excuse for that war - NONE.


Closed minded Dems such you are an even bigger threat, the biggest threat is a threat from within.


So lets start attackin Monker and eliminate him :lol: If anyone here is closeminded , it's YOU.
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:22 am

Behshad wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:Behshad is deeply saddened.. :lol: :lol:

A DailyKos/SEIU Poll....OH MY! :shock:

Romney hits 50%, leads by 4 in PPP/Daily Kos national poll

Last week, I approvingly linked the Daily Kos’ report on the PPP poll it commissioned when it showed Mitt Romney leading by two point, 49/47. Markos Moulitsas responded with some snark on Twitter, wondering if I’d link future polling from his site, and I said I probably would. Since I am a man of my word, here is the latest Daily Kos/PPP weekly polling result — which turned out to be even more painful than the first for Markos:

Public Policy Polling for Daily Kos & SEIU. 10/12-14. Likely voters. MoE ±2.5% (10/4-7 results) The candidates for President are Democrat Barack Obama and Republican Mitt Romney. If the election was today, who would you vote for?Obama 46 (47) Romney 50 (49)

At a time when other polls are moving back in the president’s direction, our own weekly poll by Public Policy Polling saw the opposite—a two-point Romney gain. Per day:

Friday (38%) Obama 47, Romney 49 Saturday (39%) Obama 49, Romney 47 Sunday (24%) Obama 43, Romney 55


http://hotair.com/archives/2012/10/16/r ... onal-poll/


Yep, I am deeply saddened when you only share the polls that say Romney is ahead, but when actual early votes indicate the opposite, you say its a lie :lol:

I think based on all the polls you have shared with us, Obama needs to really consider quitting the race and announce Romney as the winner before Nov 6th. I mean who really needs vote results when the polls are indicating that Obama doesnt have a chance ? :?


It's easy Behshad, just start showing poll results with Obama fail ahead. I won't complain, seriously.
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:24 am

Behshad wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:
Monker wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:
Behshad wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:I don't have to even click on that link to know it's total bullshit written by bullshit "guardian".

Saddam may not have had anything to do with 9-11 directly, but he didn't allow weapons inspectors in but spewed claims of having devistating weapons in his arsonal. Not only that, in '91 after we reduced much of Saddam's National Guards into a smoldering heap of chicken nuggets in the sand, terrorst groups then went into Iraq and set up Anti-American terrorist training facilities there.


The terroist who attacked on 9/11 were trained in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Pakistan and even here in US.

They have terrorist activities in Iraq, yes, but none linked to 9/11 . And the 2003 Iraq war did not help eliminate the terrorist network in Iraq, did it ?


I don't have intelligence information as to what all the war in Iraq has helped eliminate. As I'm sure there are things the civilian population does not have access to. Right off the bat what did come out of the war in Iraq was the removal of that human buttplug Saddam once and for all and proving that he did not have any of the weapons or technology that he had for so many years claimed to have in his arsonal.


Cuba is more of a threat to the US then Iraq ever was. By your logic we should send the troops in.

Saddam claimed to have those weapons scare Iran and others in the region - not the US.

There was no excuse for that war - NONE.


Closed minded Dems such you are an even bigger threat, the biggest threat is a threat from within.


So lets start attackin Monker and eliminate him :lol: If anyone here is closeminded , it's YOU.


Lets get one thing straight Behshad, I'm not trying to eliminate anyone. I'm not even trying to rally up Rep support via pm like how some of the dems here are doing trying to rally Dem support from the Dem population on this board.

And are you so sure Monker is a he, more like a she.
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Postby Memorex » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:27 am

Polls are whatever.

Here is the number one thing Obama is probably concerned about. He is never over 50% approval and the right track/wrong track has consistently been lopsided with 2/3 saying wrong track. No incumbent has ever won with those two factors in play. And undecideds this late in the game almost always break for the challenger by like 70%.

But, with this whole thing based on a state by state numbers game, who knows. Like last time, I hope that whatever happens the winner wins by a good margin so that we don't have to have silly lawsuits and the like.

I also hope that no matter who wins, this economy gets moving and people start dealing with whatever reality is before us.
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:30 am

Memorex wrote:Polls are whatever.

Here is the number one thing Obama is probably concerned about. He is never over 50% approval and the right track/wrong track has consistently been lopsided with 2/3 saying wrong track. No incumbent has ever won with those two factors in play. And undecideds this late in the game almost always break for the challenger by like 70%.

But, with this whole thing based on a state by state numbers game, who knows. Like last time, I hope that whatever happens the winner wins by a good margin so that we don't have to have silly lawsuits and the like.

I also hope that no matter who wins, this economy gets moving and people start dealing with whatever reality is before us.


That's exactly what my outlook and attitude was back in '08 when BOzo won the election. A few short years later BOzo turned it into the "blame the last guy" game which was a huge turn-off.
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:46 am

Hillary is saying Libya is her fault......but.....Obama administration's differing accounts of the attack were due to the 'fog of war.' What is this "fog of war" thing she's referring to?
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Postby Behshad » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:56 am

The Sushi Hunter wrote:
Memorex wrote:Polls are whatever.

Here is the number one thing Obama is probably concerned about. He is never over 50% approval and the right track/wrong track has consistently been lopsided with 2/3 saying wrong track. No incumbent has ever won with those two factors in play. And undecideds this late in the game almost always break for the challenger by like 70%.

But, with this whole thing based on a state by state numbers game, who knows. Like last time, I hope that whatever happens the winner wins by a good margin so that we don't have to have silly lawsuits and the like.

I also hope that no matter who wins, this economy gets moving and people start dealing with whatever reality is before us.


That's exactly what my outlook and attitude was back in '08 when BOzo won the election. A few short years later BOzo turned it into the "blame the last guy" game which was a huge turn-off.


If your buddy Romney gets voted in, four years from now when things are all fucked up, I bet you will put all the blame on Obama ;)
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:01 am

Behshad wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:
Memorex wrote:Polls are whatever.

Here is the number one thing Obama is probably concerned about. He is never over 50% approval and the right track/wrong track has consistently been lopsided with 2/3 saying wrong track. No incumbent has ever won with those two factors in play. And undecideds this late in the game almost always break for the challenger by like 70%.

But, with this whole thing based on a state by state numbers game, who knows. Like last time, I hope that whatever happens the winner wins by a good margin so that we don't have to have silly lawsuits and the like.

I also hope that no matter who wins, this economy gets moving and people start dealing with whatever reality is before us.


That's exactly what my outlook and attitude was back in '08 when BOzo won the election. A few short years later BOzo turned it into the "blame the last guy" game which was a huge turn-off.


If your buddy Romney gets voted in, four years from now when things are all fucked up, I bet you will put all the blame on Obama ;)


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Postby FinnFreak » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:21 am

Obama would win a worldwide vote — by a landslide

In a 2012 election outside the United States, Barack Obama would beat Mitt Romney 65 percent to 18 percent, GlobalPost finds.

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news ... e-election


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http://www.iftheworldcouldvote.com/polls/results/


Poll: Europe Likes Obama, China Prefers Romney

A straw poll of people in more than 30 countries shows U.S. President Barack Obama would win by a landslide if they were allowed to vote in the U.S. election.

The poll conducted for United Press International by CVOTER International/WIN-Gallup International found the strongest support for Obama in Iceland, Netherlands, Portugal, Germany and Ireland while Republican challenger Mitt Romney’s highest support was found in Israel, Pakistan, Georgia, Macedonia and China.

The poll queried more than 26,000 men and women outside the United States. Sixty-three percent of those queried said the U.S. president has a high or very high impact on their lives while 29 percent discounted the impact and 9 percent said they were uncertain or didn’t know.

Asked if they would like to vote in the United States, 42 percent said yes, with the percentage rising to 46 percent among those less than 30 years of age.

If U.S. elections were a global affair, 63 percent said they would vote and 81 percent said they would support Obama, compared to 19 percent for Romney. Among U.S. voters, the two candidates are separated by only 3-5 percentage points, recent polls have indicated, giving Obama the edge.

“In 29 of the 32 countries polled, Obama’s rating for policies and competence is 55 percent and above, the lowest figure being in Pakistan,” the pollsters said. “In seven countries, the approval for his policies and competence is in the 90s, and in another nine it is in the 80s.”

Obama’s support was highest in Iceland (98 percent); Netherlands, Portugal, Germany (97 percent); Ireland, Denmark (96 percent); Switzerland, France, Finland (95 percent); Italy and Turkey (94 percent); Brazil (93 percent); Romania, Saudi Arabia (91 percent) and Australia (90 percent).

“Surprisingly, support for Romney fails to match Obama’s everywhere except Israel. The most notable is Pakistan, where despite Obama’s controversial handling of AfPak [Afghanistan and Pakistan] that has nosedived ties with Islamabad and where an overwhelming majority of citizens increasingly identify America as an archenemy, Obama leads 59 percent to 41 percent among those who would vote — although the actual numbers are 13 percent to 9 percent in Obama’s favor, as a majority of Pakistanis say either they don’t know or they would choose neither,” pollsters noted.

Romney garnered the most support in Israel (65 percent), Pakistan (41 percent), Georgia (36 percent), Macedonia (30 percent), China (29 percent), Lebanon (26 percent), Iraq (20 percent), India (19 percent), Colombia (16 percent), Hong Kong (15 percent) and Cameroon (15 percent).

The poll, conducted among most of the Group of 20 nations and others in Asia, Africa, Europe and the Americas, Aug. 20-Sept. 5, had an error rate of 3.5 percentage points and a confidence level of 95 percent.


http://247ureports.com/poll-europe-like ... rs-romney/




These articles don't really mean a thing - other than how the result MIGHT effect the global economy. In Europe, most economists feel, that Romney's win would throw the global economy into the deepest turmoil in the human history.



There ARE tough times ahead... I'd think VERY few (aware of the reality) are willing to take up the task...


An exciting night we're gonna witness...


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Postby conversationpc » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:36 am

Behshad wrote:If your buddy Romney gets voted in, four years from now when things are all fucked up, I bet you will put all the blame on Obama ;)


What do you mean "when"? Things were "fucked up" during the previous eight years of the Bush administration and Obama has only made it worse. :lol:
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:54 am

And 65% of the world wants to see America go down. So now we have an idea why 65% would vote for BOzo. Terrorists both international and domestic don't like Bush either.
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