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The Sushi Hunter wrote:I don't have to even click on that link to know it's total bullshit written by bullshit "guardian".
Saddam may not have had anything to do with 9-11 directly, but he didn't allow weapons inspectors in but spewed claims of having devistating weapons in his arsonal. Not only that, in '91 after we reduced much of Saddam's National Guards into a smoldering heap of chicken nuggets in the sand, terrorst groups then went into Iraq and set up Anti-American terrorist training facilities there.
Behshad wrote:The Sushi Hunter wrote:I don't have to even click on that link to know it's total bullshit written by bullshit "guardian".
Saddam may not have had anything to do with 9-11 directly, but he didn't allow weapons inspectors in but spewed claims of having devistating weapons in his arsonal. Not only that, in '91 after we reduced much of Saddam's National Guards into a smoldering heap of chicken nuggets in the sand, terrorst groups then went into Iraq and set up Anti-American terrorist training facilities there.
The terroist who attacked on 9/11 were trained in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Pakistan and even here in US.
They have terrorist activities in Iraq, yes, but none linked to 9/11 . And the 2003 Iraq war did not help eliminate the terrorist network in Iraq, did it ?
The Sushi Hunter wrote:Behshad wrote:The Sushi Hunter wrote:I don't have to even click on that link to know it's total bullshit written by bullshit "guardian".
Saddam may not have had anything to do with 9-11 directly, but he didn't allow weapons inspectors in but spewed claims of having devistating weapons in his arsonal. Not only that, in '91 after we reduced much of Saddam's National Guards into a smoldering heap of chicken nuggets in the sand, terrorst groups then went into Iraq and set up Anti-American terrorist training facilities there.
The terroist who attacked on 9/11 were trained in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Pakistan and even here in US.
They have terrorist activities in Iraq, yes, but none linked to 9/11 . And the 2003 Iraq war did not help eliminate the terrorist network in Iraq, did it ?
I don't have intelligence information as to what all the war in Iraq has helped eliminate. As I'm sure there are things the civilian population does not have access to. Right off the bat what did come out of the war in Iraq was the removal of that human buttplug Saddam once and for all and proving that he did not have any of the weapons or technology that he had for so many years claimed to have in his arsonal.
The Sushi Hunter wrote:Behshad wrote:The Sushi Hunter wrote:I don't have to even click on that link to know it's total bullshit written by bullshit "guardian".
Saddam may not have had anything to do with 9-11 directly, but he didn't allow weapons inspectors in but spewed claims of having devistating weapons in his arsonal. Not only that, in '91 after we reduced much of Saddam's National Guards into a smoldering heap of chicken nuggets in the sand, terrorst groups then went into Iraq and set up Anti-American terrorist training facilities there.
The terroist who attacked on 9/11 were trained in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Pakistan and even here in US.
They have terrorist activities in Iraq, yes, but none linked to 9/11 . And the 2003 Iraq war did not help eliminate the terrorist network in Iraq, did it ?
I don't have intelligence .
Fact Finder wrote:The Sushi Hunter wrote:Tomorrow's debate looks like it's going to shape up to be be pretty intense, of course only if Obama's body doesn't reject Biden's balls transplant. Obama's supposed to be coming out balls swinging this round.
He better be, he's looking at a few bumps in the road ahead.USA TODAY/Gallup Poll shows Romney leading Obama 51%-46% among likely voters in the swing states. Men who are likely voters back him 54%-42%. The states are Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin...
Memorex wrote:Libya. I know some on here think that 4 Americans dead and our own State Department and even our president lying to us is no big deal, but....
Why are there congressional hearings before I'm hearing about retaliation or capture of the people who did this. I know there are a few arrests, most of which are for people not likely involved. It seems to me that in the past, we have acted pretty swiftly when attacked. I'm not even hearing tough talk. The conversation seems to be about the cover up and not the actual act.
I feel angrier by the day on this. I think for a couple reasons. Number one, I believe the president and Hilary both knew what was happening while the attack was happening. You'd have to be pretty blind not to know what this was, at least by the fourth hour of the attack. And at the very least by that evening, US time.
So before he hits the podium to talk to Americans like a normal person, he runs off to a fundraiser. Then there is all this dis-information about a video, which is sad in and of itself.
The worst part, all this video talk 5, 6, 10 days later. Thankfully I believe they were purposefully misleading the public and not actually that fucking stupid. Cause if they were, God help us.
And then to march some lady out to say that the only reason this is a hot topic is because of Romney and Ryan???? WTF?? I am sure Romney and Ryan will make the most of what they can on this. But I am pissed about it and I haven't heard them mention it once. I'm sure they have, but since I don't listen to their speeches, I haven't heard it.
I'm really disappointed in Hilary. I thought she had done a pretty damn good job these past four years. You can see the work she has put in. But she went out there like a sheep and allowed this and she should resign. I know she is leaving after the election anyway, but this was completely unacceptable.
And the press needs to do their work on this to the point that Obama personally apologizes and admits whatever role he had in it. They won't and he won't, I'm sure.
Memorex wrote:I have mixed feelings on war. But generally I feel as though if you kill your own people and the people are powerless, then countries like ours should get in there and remove the leaders. I often think what if our government turned on us. What if they started killing tens of thousands of us, just for standing up. How long would we want another country to wait before they came in and gave us a hand?
I think there is a huge amount of racism in a lot of this. To me, if you think the USA should not have gotten rid of Saddam, then you probably care a whole lot less about an Iraqi human than an American. And I just don't feel that way. I think all people should be free of violence. I care just as much for those Iraqi people as I do for my neighbors and so I think we actually don't do enough. Violence the way it happens in these countries should simply not be tolerated by any other country.
So yea - I'm glad we went to Iraq and I wish we would go all over until it stopped. Let people live without that fear for God's sake.
Behshad wrote:The Sushi Hunter wrote:Behshad wrote:The Sushi Hunter wrote:I don't have to even click on that link to know it's total bullshit written by bullshit "guardian".
Saddam may not have had anything to do with 9-11 directly, but he didn't allow weapons inspectors in but spewed claims of having devistating weapons in his arsonal. Not only that, in '91 after we reduced much of Saddam's National Guards into a smoldering heap of chicken nuggets in the sand, terrorst groups then went into Iraq and set up Anti-American terrorist training facilities there.
The terroist who attacked on 9/11 were trained in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Pakistan and even here in US.
They have terrorist activities in Iraq, yes, but none linked to 9/11 . And the 2003 Iraq war did not help eliminate the terrorist network in Iraq, did it ?
I don't have intelligence information as to what all the war in Iraq has helped eliminate. As I'm sure there are things the civilian population does not have access to. Right off the bat what did come out of the war in Iraq was the removal of that human buttplug Saddam once and for all and proving that he did not have any of the weapons or technology that he had for so many years claimed to have in his arsonal.
Exactly he didnt have the weapons, yet we insisted that he did and we were proven wrong. Again, he killed his own people, but he was no threat to us and more Iraqis were killed between 2003-2011 than the prior 8 years. So while an evil man has indeed been removed from power, Iraq is still not a sace and secured country and they still harbor terrorism and there's still Iraqis getting killed = waste of our money and our troops lives to go into a war that we didnt really win.
The Sushi Hunter wrote:Tomorrow's debate looks like it's going to shape up to be be pretty intense, of course only if Obama's body doesn't reject Biden's balls transplant. Obama's supposed to be coming out balls swinging this round.
The Sushi Hunter wrote:Behshad wrote:The Sushi Hunter wrote:I don't have to even click on that link to know it's total bullshit written by bullshit "guardian".
Saddam may not have had anything to do with 9-11 directly, but he didn't allow weapons inspectors in but spewed claims of having devistating weapons in his arsonal. Not only that, in '91 after we reduced much of Saddam's National Guards into a smoldering heap of chicken nuggets in the sand, terrorst groups then went into Iraq and set up Anti-American terrorist training facilities there.
The terroist who attacked on 9/11 were trained in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Pakistan and even here in US.
They have terrorist activities in Iraq, yes, but none linked to 9/11 . And the 2003 Iraq war did not help eliminate the terrorist network in Iraq, did it ?
I don't have intelligence information as to what all the war in Iraq has helped eliminate. As I'm sure there are things the civilian population does not have access to. Right off the bat what did come out of the war in Iraq was the removal of that human buttplug Saddam once and for all and proving that he did not have any of the weapons or technology that he had for so many years claimed to have in his arsonal.
steveo777 wrote:The Sushi Hunter wrote:Tomorrow's debate looks like it's going to shape up to be be pretty intense, of course only if Obama's body doesn't reject Biden's balls transplant. Obama's supposed to be coming out balls swinging this round.
It will be interesting to see if Obama plays the Bain card. This could backfire on him big time, essentially ending the race.
Memorex wrote:I see Hilary is coming out now and accepting blame. I glad and hopefully this will lead to the facts coming out. Press needs to address it head on though.
Fact Finder wrote:This is a desperate move by a scared Democratic Party.
Fact Finder wrote:Behshad is deeply saddened..![]()
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A DailyKos/SEIU Poll....OH MY!
Romney hits 50%, leads by 4 in PPP/Daily Kos national poll
Last week, I approvingly linked the Daily Kos’ report on the PPP poll it commissioned when it showed Mitt Romney leading by two point, 49/47. Markos Moulitsas responded with some snark on Twitter, wondering if I’d link future polling from his site, and I said I probably would. Since I am a man of my word, here is the latest Daily Kos/PPP weekly polling result — which turned out to be even more painful than the first for Markos:
Public Policy Polling for Daily Kos & SEIU. 10/12-14. Likely voters. MoE ±2.5% (10/4-7 results) The candidates for President are Democrat Barack Obama and Republican Mitt Romney. If the election was today, who would you vote for?Obama 46 (47) Romney 50 (49)
At a time when other polls are moving back in the president’s direction, our own weekly poll by Public Policy Polling saw the opposite—a two-point Romney gain. Per day:
Friday (38%) Obama 47, Romney 49 Saturday (39%) Obama 49, Romney 47 Sunday (24%) Obama 43, Romney 55
http://hotair.com/archives/2012/10/16/r ... onal-poll/
Monker wrote:The Sushi Hunter wrote:Behshad wrote:The Sushi Hunter wrote:I don't have to even click on that link to know it's total bullshit written by bullshit "guardian".
Saddam may not have had anything to do with 9-11 directly, but he didn't allow weapons inspectors in but spewed claims of having devistating weapons in his arsonal. Not only that, in '91 after we reduced much of Saddam's National Guards into a smoldering heap of chicken nuggets in the sand, terrorst groups then went into Iraq and set up Anti-American terrorist training facilities there.
The terroist who attacked on 9/11 were trained in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Pakistan and even here in US.
They have terrorist activities in Iraq, yes, but none linked to 9/11 . And the 2003 Iraq war did not help eliminate the terrorist network in Iraq, did it ?
I don't have intelligence information as to what all the war in Iraq has helped eliminate. As I'm sure there are things the civilian population does not have access to. Right off the bat what did come out of the war in Iraq was the removal of that human buttplug Saddam once and for all and proving that he did not have any of the weapons or technology that he had for so many years claimed to have in his arsonal.
Cuba is more of a threat to the US then Iraq ever was. By your logic we should send the troops in.
Saddam claimed to have those weapons scare Iran and others in the region - not the US.
There was no excuse for that war - NONE.
The Sushi Hunter wrote:Monker wrote:The Sushi Hunter wrote:Behshad wrote:The Sushi Hunter wrote:I don't have to even click on that link to know it's total bullshit written by bullshit "guardian".
Saddam may not have had anything to do with 9-11 directly, but he didn't allow weapons inspectors in but spewed claims of having devistating weapons in his arsonal. Not only that, in '91 after we reduced much of Saddam's National Guards into a smoldering heap of chicken nuggets in the sand, terrorst groups then went into Iraq and set up Anti-American terrorist training facilities there.
The terroist who attacked on 9/11 were trained in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Pakistan and even here in US.
They have terrorist activities in Iraq, yes, but none linked to 9/11 . And the 2003 Iraq war did not help eliminate the terrorist network in Iraq, did it ?
I don't have intelligence information as to what all the war in Iraq has helped eliminate. As I'm sure there are things the civilian population does not have access to. Right off the bat what did come out of the war in Iraq was the removal of that human buttplug Saddam once and for all and proving that he did not have any of the weapons or technology that he had for so many years claimed to have in his arsonal.
Cuba is more of a threat to the US then Iraq ever was. By your logic we should send the troops in.
Saddam claimed to have those weapons scare Iran and others in the region - not the US.
There was no excuse for that war - NONE.
Closed minded Dems such you are an even bigger threat, the biggest threat is a threat from within.
Behshad wrote:Fact Finder wrote:Behshad is deeply saddened..![]()
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A DailyKos/SEIU Poll....OH MY!
Romney hits 50%, leads by 4 in PPP/Daily Kos national poll
Last week, I approvingly linked the Daily Kos’ report on the PPP poll it commissioned when it showed Mitt Romney leading by two point, 49/47. Markos Moulitsas responded with some snark on Twitter, wondering if I’d link future polling from his site, and I said I probably would. Since I am a man of my word, here is the latest Daily Kos/PPP weekly polling result — which turned out to be even more painful than the first for Markos:
Public Policy Polling for Daily Kos & SEIU. 10/12-14. Likely voters. MoE ±2.5% (10/4-7 results) The candidates for President are Democrat Barack Obama and Republican Mitt Romney. If the election was today, who would you vote for?Obama 46 (47) Romney 50 (49)
At a time when other polls are moving back in the president’s direction, our own weekly poll by Public Policy Polling saw the opposite—a two-point Romney gain. Per day:
Friday (38%) Obama 47, Romney 49 Saturday (39%) Obama 49, Romney 47 Sunday (24%) Obama 43, Romney 55
http://hotair.com/archives/2012/10/16/r ... onal-poll/
Yep, I am deeply saddened when you only share the polls that say Romney is ahead, but when actual early votes indicate the opposite, you say its a lie
I think based on all the polls you have shared with us, Obama needs to really consider quitting the race and announce Romney as the winner before Nov 6th. I mean who really needs vote results when the polls are indicating that Obama doesnt have a chance ?
Behshad wrote:The Sushi Hunter wrote:Monker wrote:The Sushi Hunter wrote:Behshad wrote:The Sushi Hunter wrote:I don't have to even click on that link to know it's total bullshit written by bullshit "guardian".
Saddam may not have had anything to do with 9-11 directly, but he didn't allow weapons inspectors in but spewed claims of having devistating weapons in his arsonal. Not only that, in '91 after we reduced much of Saddam's National Guards into a smoldering heap of chicken nuggets in the sand, terrorst groups then went into Iraq and set up Anti-American terrorist training facilities there.
The terroist who attacked on 9/11 were trained in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Pakistan and even here in US.
They have terrorist activities in Iraq, yes, but none linked to 9/11 . And the 2003 Iraq war did not help eliminate the terrorist network in Iraq, did it ?
I don't have intelligence information as to what all the war in Iraq has helped eliminate. As I'm sure there are things the civilian population does not have access to. Right off the bat what did come out of the war in Iraq was the removal of that human buttplug Saddam once and for all and proving that he did not have any of the weapons or technology that he had for so many years claimed to have in his arsonal.
Cuba is more of a threat to the US then Iraq ever was. By your logic we should send the troops in.
Saddam claimed to have those weapons scare Iran and others in the region - not the US.
There was no excuse for that war - NONE.
Closed minded Dems such you are an even bigger threat, the biggest threat is a threat from within.
So lets start attackin Monker and eliminate himIf anyone here is closeminded , it's YOU.
Memorex wrote:Polls are whatever.
Here is the number one thing Obama is probably concerned about. He is never over 50% approval and the right track/wrong track has consistently been lopsided with 2/3 saying wrong track. No incumbent has ever won with those two factors in play. And undecideds this late in the game almost always break for the challenger by like 70%.
But, with this whole thing based on a state by state numbers game, who knows. Like last time, I hope that whatever happens the winner wins by a good margin so that we don't have to have silly lawsuits and the like.
I also hope that no matter who wins, this economy gets moving and people start dealing with whatever reality is before us.
The Sushi Hunter wrote:Memorex wrote:Polls are whatever.
Here is the number one thing Obama is probably concerned about. He is never over 50% approval and the right track/wrong track has consistently been lopsided with 2/3 saying wrong track. No incumbent has ever won with those two factors in play. And undecideds this late in the game almost always break for the challenger by like 70%.
But, with this whole thing based on a state by state numbers game, who knows. Like last time, I hope that whatever happens the winner wins by a good margin so that we don't have to have silly lawsuits and the like.
I also hope that no matter who wins, this economy gets moving and people start dealing with whatever reality is before us.
That's exactly what my outlook and attitude was back in '08 when BOzo won the election. A few short years later BOzo turned it into the "blame the last guy" game which was a huge turn-off.
Behshad wrote:The Sushi Hunter wrote:Memorex wrote:Polls are whatever.
Here is the number one thing Obama is probably concerned about. He is never over 50% approval and the right track/wrong track has consistently been lopsided with 2/3 saying wrong track. No incumbent has ever won with those two factors in play. And undecideds this late in the game almost always break for the challenger by like 70%.
But, with this whole thing based on a state by state numbers game, who knows. Like last time, I hope that whatever happens the winner wins by a good margin so that we don't have to have silly lawsuits and the like.
I also hope that no matter who wins, this economy gets moving and people start dealing with whatever reality is before us.
That's exactly what my outlook and attitude was back in '08 when BOzo won the election. A few short years later BOzo turned it into the "blame the last guy" game which was a huge turn-off.
If your buddy Romney gets voted in, four years from now when things are all fucked up, I bet you will put all the blame on Obama
Behshad wrote:If your buddy Romney gets voted in, four years from now when things are all fucked up, I bet you will put all the blame on Obama
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