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Behshad wrote:Memorex wrote:Behshad wrote:Good thing mostof these layoffs are happening now, so when President Obama starts his second term, we will have many job creations![]()
That's pretty funny. I get it cause you mean these layoffs are happening now, and then that gives opportunity in the second term for these people to be hired. It's nice to wake up to a dose of that feel good humor.
Yesterday my boss informed us that there will be significant layoffs in December as a direct result of the pending Obamacare costs and other economic factors. They have also began the process of selling the division here in MN to a company that would most likely not keep most of us.
The good news is I can sit down with my wife, 6 kids, 2 nieces, and my granddaughter and talk about how funny it is, since this will help boost job numbers in the 2nd term. It will be nice to bond of that laughter.
I say pictures before humor B.
P.S. It's so awesome that huge corporations and high-profile companies got all those waivers from Obamacare to keep the bad news down in an election year, but my boss who has put millions of his own dollars back into this company to keep us going can't do shit. And thank God all those very poor unions got waivers from their Cadillac plans so I could lose my half-decent healthcare that I pay $1400 a month for out of my own pocket. Fuckin awesome!
Any business owner that starts paying off people based on what the THINK Obama healthcare reform MIGHT do, is an idiot. They go base on assumption and layoff people. What happens if it doesnt turn out to what they assumed ? Will they rehire these people back, oh yea they will, but without benefits now since theyre new hired staff. So its a win-win situation for them, without any kind of concern about who helps them keep their business alive: their workers.
DavidWT wrote:Has anyone else noticed that people are using the word "folks" a whole lot more since Obama took office. Before Obama, people would say "people." Then Obama gets into office, and he starts referring to people as "folks," and suddenly everyone else is doing it. Not that it matters, of course, but it just struck me as kind of odd how everyone latched on to that word, even people (or should I say "folks") who never used it before. Newscasters, in particular, love to use that word now.
steveo777 wrote:You guys understand that the illegal aliens put us in this situation, right? They simply swayed their legal families that they should vote for a US president that would support all of them with yet more entitlements to come over the next four years. It's called the "spit out another kid and get a raise program". The other program is called "don't pay taxes but get a refund". Then there is the "come as you are, to any of our hospitals and get free medical care program". Am I not the only one who gets an upset stomach and wants to puke over this bullshit?
slucero wrote:Boomchild wrote:steveo777 wrote:Boomchild wrote:The Sushi Hunter wrote:Fact Finder wrote:MARKET NEWS: Dow dives 350+ points, sinks below 13,000
Yeah I just read that. This is going to be a fucking great next four years. During the second term Obama can now blame all the current problems on his previous four years in office.
Should that happen you can be sure Obama will still be blaming the Bush Administration.
But he didn't inherit Bush's economy this time. He inherited his own and in time when things are still fucked up he won't be able to blame Bush anymore.
This is a president for the entitlement crowd. You think Tax Credits, Welfare, Foodstamps and Medical expenditures escalated during Obama's first term, wait til after the second. It's gonna be mind blowing. No wonder the minorities like this guy. Someone needs to put their foot down and the gravey train needs to come to a halt, or we are screwed and next time I will move to another country. This is not my fucking debt and I'm getting pissed!
For those who say Romney didn't cater enough to the hispanics and other minorities, well I say to you this is America and we shouldn't have to. This is how fucked up it's become. People who are born here are not treated as well as some of these illegals.
The fact is it doesn't matter whether it's true or not. They'll spin it in away that points back to before his first term. Saying something like "this situation is taking longer to rebound from then anyone ever thought". Politicians always have and always will make statements that are ridiculous just to try and save their ass. The sad fact is a lot of people will believe it.
They'll believe it until the economics begin affect them...
Don't forget that FDR was on his way to having his legacy be irrevocably tied to the Depression only... FDR was not universally accepted in his day as a great savior, he had many detractors, and no plan whatsover to attack the Great Depression. The social programs instituted during the Depression had little effect on turning the economy around. And then the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor...
There is no doubt that FDR was a great leader through WWII.... which is his legacy.. but for FDR's legacy, WWII was it's saving grace.. it is what put a positive spin on his Depression era tenure, and it's potential failure.
Obama now faces the same problem.... his 1st term was about his party.. this one is about his legacy... failing to turn the economy will be what defines his presidency, and his legacy.
Fact Finder wrote:TOP SPOOK OUT: PETRAEUS RESIGNS OVER 'AFFAIR'
Was Slated to Testify on Benghazi Next Week...
brandonx76 wrote:Mapping racist Tweets: where post-election hate came from
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Memorex wrote:Was just taking my bad mood out on you. Sorry about that. Just ignore me.
If I see Boehner and Obama golfing together and not fixing things though....
"I don't want some mom whose son may have recently died to see the commander in chief playing golf," he said. "I feel I owe it to the families to be in solidarity as best as I can with them. And I think playing golf during a war just sends the wrong signal."
Bush said he made that decision after the August 2003 bombing of the United Nations headquarters in Baghdad, which killed Sergio Vieira de Mello, the top U.N. official in Iraq and the organization's high commissioner for human rights.
"I remember when de Mello, who was at the U.N., got killed in Baghdad as a result of these murderers taking this good man's life," he said. "I was playing golf -- I think I was in central Texas -- and they pulled me off the golf course and I said, 'It's just not worth it anymore to do.'"
Memorex wrote:Sorry - but no one working for us - that we pay for - should be golfing over 100 times in 3 years or so when so many people are out of work and NOTHING IS BEING DONE IN WASHINGTON. Tell me about their stressful day. What has the president stressed over for the last year or more? The campaign. I've seen no work. I've seen no big efforts to do anything. If he was working hard and working with congress, etc, then yea - I get the OCCASIONAL golf game. But don't act like the president or the folks in congress have worked very hard the last few years. They certainly have not earned the position or the money we pay them.
No - I think they all need to get the fuck back to work and actually do something with the next four years. I know what hard work is and the majority of politicians don't do it.
Like I said - the occasional golf game - fine. But fucking do something to earn it. Combined with all the basketball, parties at the white house, and huge vacations, it looks like shit.
The Dems (and I) said the same shit about Bush when he was vacationing so much toward the end. Could ANY of us get away with that much leisure time?
Behshad wrote:My point is there are jobs out there. But people are too lazy.
I see " help wanted " signs and ads all over the place.
We had an ad for two weeks to hire a sales guy , making between 35000-50000 a year.
We thought we would have at least 20-30 people applying , but no , only 3 people applied and around 10 people just came in to show that they've been looking for a job so they could get their unemployment or welfare check.
This is the mindset of a lot of people these days. Specially now , when you see people complaining on FB about " freeloaders" ,yet they seem to forget that they are one of them !
Behshad wrote:My point is there are jobs out there. But people are too lazy.
I see " help wanted " signs and ads all over the place.
We had an ad for two weeks to hire a sales guy , making between 35000-50000 a year.
We thought we would have at least 20-30 people applying , but no , only 3 people applied and around 10 people just came in to show that they've been looking for a job so they could get their unemployment or welfare check.
This is the mindset of a lot of people these days. Specially now , when you see people complaining on FB about " freeloaders" ,yet they seem to forget that they are one of them !
Fact Finder wrote:Behshad wrote:My point is there are jobs out there. But people are too lazy.
I see " help wanted " signs and ads all over the place.
We had an ad for two weeks to hire a sales guy , making between 35000-50000 a year.
We thought we would have at least 20-30 people applying , but no , only 3 people applied and around 10 people just came in to show that they've been looking for a job so they could get their unemployment or welfare check.
This is the mindset of a lot of people these days. Specially now , when you see people complaining on FB about " freeloaders" ,yet they seem to forget that they are one of them !
Yeah, and to get their attention you cut them off. These people will not get a job as long as we give them money.
Here's a new secnario for B, Gin, Slu and Company.
1099
Secnario: You own a car lot and need 7 sales people. They work for you, sell cars all week and you give them a paycheck minus the tax with held and health cost, and they earn 500 a week and get a check for $333. Part of the health cost and half of the FICA are paid by the employer wich is an additional cost beyond the $500 of earnings. With Obamacare on the near horizon you have no choice in the matter now how to administer your health plans, and if you don't offer the plans you get taxed anyway because you have employees.
Sloution: Tomorrow Behsahd goes to work and the dealer says B, you are fired as an employee, but if you'd like you can come and sell my cars and I will pay you the $500 in full, you will be an independant car salesman, pay your own taxes and healthcare out of that $500 and you'll be your own boss. You'll get a 1099 at the end of the year.
I can see quite a few employers using this method to get out of owing anything on Obamacare taxes. Fuck, the fry cook at McD's can be an independent fry cook and McD's just gives him the whole check and McD's don't owe jack shit for healthcare or half FICA.
Brilliant!
conversationpc wrote:Fact Finder wrote:TOP SPOOK OUT: PETRAEUS RESIGNS OVER 'AFFAIR'
Was Slated to Testify on Benghazi Next Week...
Yep, a little suspicious, don't you think?
Memorex wrote: But don't act like the president or the folks in congress have worked very hard the last few years. They certainly have not earned the position or the money we pay them.
Boomchild wrote:conversationpc wrote:Fact Finder wrote:TOP SPOOK OUT: PETRAEUS RESIGNS OVER 'AFFAIR'
Was Slated to Testify on Benghazi Next Week...
Yep, a little suspicious, don't you think?
Nothing will become of how the Benghazi attack was handled. Even the major press has stopped talking about it for the most part. It will have no effect on Obama's re-election or his second term.
Behshad wrote:10 people just came in to show that they've been looking for a job so they could get their unemployment or welfare check.
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