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Boomchild wrote:So through all the Nixon scandals, Nixon got pegged with the nickname "Tricky Dick". What do you think would be a good nickname for B.O.?
Boomchild wrote:So through all the Nixon scandals, Nixon got pegged with the nickname "Tricky Dick". What do you think would be a good nickname for B.O.?
Fact Finder wrote:joseph curl@josephcurl 8m, CIA source says Fox News scandal the "4th Shoe"; says it goes much deeper; says WH also sitting on "something" that has top aides terrified.
Fact Finder wrote:joseph curl@josephcurl 8m, CIA source says Fox News scandal the "4th Shoe"; says it goes much deeper; says WH also sitting on "something" that has top aides terrified.
Memorex wrote:Fact Finder wrote:joseph curl@josephcurl 8m, CIA source says Fox News scandal the "4th Shoe"; says it goes much deeper; says WH also sitting on "something" that has top aides terrified.
I think what everyone has to be asking themselves is, why now? This is just too much coincidence at once. This administration does nothing that isn't calculated. And it's the administration that is releasing all the info. Why do it all at once? It's definitely not just to get it all out and be done with it.
I heard that Republican bundlers are having a hard time getting donations because people are afraid they will be targeted. In America? That's crazy. People should be afraid to donate based on stupidity, not their government coming after them.
I thing the Justice Department really needs to explain what the real threat was to justify going after a reporter's personal email. I think that's over the line. And I think Obama would think so too. You'd think, anyway.
Memorex wrote:Fact Finder wrote:joseph curl@josephcurl 8m, CIA source says Fox News scandal the "4th Shoe"; says it goes much deeper; says WH also sitting on "something" that has top aides terrified.
I think what everyone has to be asking themselves is, why now? This is just too much coincidence at once. This administration does nothing that isn't calculated. And it's the administration that is releasing all the info. Why do it all at once? It's definitely not just to get it all out and be done with it.
I heard that Republican bundlers are having a hard time getting donations because people are afraid they will be targeted. In America? That's crazy. People should be afraid to donate based on stupidity, not their government coming after them.
I thing the Justice Department really needs to explain what the real threat was to justify going after a reporter's personal email. I think that's over the line. And I think Obama would think so too. You'd think, anyway.
The Sushi Hunter wrote:As for what's being said today, I find it very interesting how all these people who did all this corrupt bullshit on BOzo's watch is claiming they didn't tell him any of this stuff was happening and going on. Fucking hilarious.
steveo777 wrote:WTF is up with Obama's approval rating being as high as it is? My only guess is that his supporters don't care about liberty and freedom, nor do they care about personal accountability.
steveo777 wrote:WTF is up with Obama's approval rating being as high as it is? My only guess is that his supporters don't care about liberty and freedom, nor do they care about personal accountability. These are the sheep that need structure and need to be lead by the nose, while getting as much free shit as they can from the government. These are the same ones who, as long as they are getting fed, will turn the blind eye on all of B.O.'s faults and remain in hibernation to his true agenda. There are also some who just don't give a shit, have no moral compass and even some of those are working an agenda that aligns with this administration, so as to sustain their lifestyles of drinking off the government teet. All you have to do is watch a few episodes of reality tv, Dr. Phil, Judge Judy, etc., and it's very clear what kind of social decay this country is in. This kind of president serves those kinds the best and their ranks are growing.
steveo777 wrote:WTF is up with Obama's approval rating being as high as it is?
Fact Finder wrote:WASHINGTON – A top IRS official in the division that reviews nonprofit groups will invoke the Fifth Amendment and refuse to answer questions before a House committee investigating the agency’s improper screening of conservative nonprofit groups.
Lois Lerner, the head of the exempt organizations division of the IRS, won’t answer questions about what she knew about the improper screening – or why she didn’t reveal it to Congress, according to a letter from her defense lawyer, William W. Taylor 3rd.
Lerner was scheduled to appear before the House Oversight committee Wednesday.
Fact Finder wrote:WASHINGTON – A top IRS official in the division that reviews nonprofit groups will invoke the Fifth Amendment and refuse to answer questions before a House committee investigating the agency’s improper screening of conservative nonprofit groups.
Lois Lerner, the head of the exempt organizations division of the IRS, won’t answer questions about what she knew about the improper screening – or why she didn’t reveal it to Congress, according to a letter from her defense lawyer, William W. Taylor 3rd.
Lerner was scheduled to appear before the House Oversight committee Wednesday.
Fact Finder wrote:The Sushi Hunter wrote:Fact Finder wrote:WASHINGTON – A top IRS official in the division that reviews nonprofit groups will invoke the Fifth Amendment and refuse to answer questions before a House committee investigating the agency’s improper screening of conservative nonprofit groups.
Lois Lerner, the head of the exempt organizations division of the IRS, won’t answer questions about what she knew about the improper screening – or why she didn’t reveal it to Congress, according to a letter from her defense lawyer, William W. Taylor 3rd.
Lerner was scheduled to appear before the House Oversight committee Wednesday.
Yeah buddy, saw that. So predictable. We all know that policies and procedures criteria is established from the top. I say we water board that bitch.
Boomchild wrote:So while listening to the radio today a commercial comes on sponsored by some conservative group that supports immigration reform. It had sound bites from Sen. Marco Rubio in which he said that we currently have "de facto amnesty". So I guess instead he thinks it's better to have carte blanche, link chain immigration for illegals. Additionally he goes on to describe what these people "in the shadows" will have to do and that they will not be eligible for government support benefits. This is a lie, since the most recent reports on the bill being presented does allow for them to be eligible for benefits right away. Marco Rubio is so wet behind the ears to not see that this "gang of eight" bill was a sham from the start. Another thing is the only requirement for securing the border will be that they have to "create a plan" to build fencing. WTF, they did that during the last amnesty bill during the Regan administration and never completed the job. This shit really angers me. Rubio is a liberal in conservative clothing.
Rick wrote:Boomchild wrote:So while listening to the radio today a commercial comes on sponsored by some conservative group that supports immigration reform. It had sound bites from Sen. Marco Rubio in which he said that we currently have "de facto amnesty". So I guess instead he thinks it's better to have carte blanche, link chain immigration for illegals. Additionally he goes on to describe what these people "in the shadows" will have to do and that they will not be eligible for government support benefits. This is a lie, since the most recent reports on the bill being presented does allow for them to be eligible for benefits right away. Marco Rubio is so wet behind the ears to not see that this "gang of eight" bill was a sham from the start. Another thing is the only requirement for securing the border will be that they have to "create a plan" to build fencing. WTF, they did that during the last amnesty bill during the Regan administration and never completed the job. This shit really angers me. Rubio is a liberal in conservative clothing.
You know what it is. Amnesty will give them citizenship, which will increase tax revenue. That's all it is. Upping the tax base.
Boomchild wrote:Rick wrote:Boomchild wrote:So while listening to the radio today a commercial comes on sponsored by some conservative group that supports immigration reform. It had sound bites from Sen. Marco Rubio in which he said that we currently have "de facto amnesty". So I guess instead he thinks it's better to have carte blanche, link chain immigration for illegals. Additionally he goes on to describe what these people "in the shadows" will have to do and that they will not be eligible for government support benefits. This is a lie, since the most recent reports on the bill being presented does allow for them to be eligible for benefits right away. Marco Rubio is so wet behind the ears to not see that this "gang of eight" bill was a sham from the start. Another thing is the only requirement for securing the border will be that they have to "create a plan" to build fencing. WTF, they did that during the last amnesty bill during the Regan administration and never completed the job. This shit really angers me. Rubio is a liberal in conservative clothing.
You know what it is. Amnesty will give them citizenship, which will increase tax revenue. That's all it is. Upping the tax base.
Not the ones that will be going on SSI, food stamps etc.. Their income level won't be enough to owe federal taxes. If that is the point then don't offer SSI, food stamps etc to them. They won't need it since they will earn enough to support themselves and pay taxes. If this were totally true then the U.S.government would have no need to have a partnership with Mexico to promote the U.S. food stamp program in Mexico. It's more about politicians salivating over the thought of more voters for their respective party.
Rick wrote:Those statistics aren't what they're relying on.
Boomchild wrote:Rick wrote:Those statistics aren't what they're relying on.
Which, the ones that won't have enough income to be required to pay taxes or that they will have a pool of future voters for their party? Regardless, no matter what angle you look at this subject it is a lose\lose result for the country. Just like the last amnesty bill that was suppose to resolve the massive illegal immigration problem for good. They will never enforce the guidelines for accepting these people. The government can't even effectively enforce the immigration laws and border security as it stands now. Were supposed to believe that they will this time. Yeh right.
...her name is Valerie Jarrett, she is the Senior White House Advisor to Barack Obama. He doesn't make a move, or a statement without consulting Valerie Jarrett first. Valerie was brought into the Obama White House, because both Barack and Michelle owe her, "big time". Make no mistake about Jarrett's power over Obama and the rest of the cabinet. Valerie is an A-1 Communist/Socialist/Progressive, and she isn't afraid to admit it. Her goals are every bit as lofty as Obama's goals. However, it is Valerie Jarrett's evil and diabolical mind that sets the stage, makes the plans and her orders are carried out to the "T"!!!
Trying to figure out Valerie Jarrett’s mysterious hold on Barack and Michelle Obama is a favorite guessing game in the parlors and dining rooms of Washington. No other White House official in history has enjoyed such a unique relationship with both a president and a first lady, and yet the mainstream media have ignored Jarrett’s enormous influence over the shape and direction of the Obama administration.
Jarrett’s official title — senior adviser and assistant to the president for intergovernmental affairs and public engagement — doesn’t begin to do justice to her unrivaled status in the White House. She is Ground Zero in the Obama operation — the first couple’s first friend and consigliere, the last person to leave the Oval Office after meetings, and the only White House official who dines with the first family in their private quarters at night.
“She functions as the eyes, ears, and nose of the president and first lady. She tells them who’s saying what about who, who’s loyal and who’s not. She advises them about who they should see when they visit a city or a foreign country. She determines who gets invited to the White House and who is left out in the cold.”
In the White House pecking order, Jarrett has more clout than the president’s chief of staff. During the savage internecine warfare between Jarrett and Obama’s first two chiefs of staff — Rahm Emanuel and Bill Daley — Obama sided with Jarrett, a classic limousine liberal who believes that Obama was elected president in order to engineer social change. Ultimately, Jarrett emasculated Emanuel and Daley and forced them from their jobs.
She has also been responsible for much of the incompetence and amateurism that have been the hallmarks of Obama’s time in office. Indeed, Jarrett has been on the wrong side of practically every consequential issue to come across the president’s desk. Some examples of her bonehead advice:
● Though both Emanuel and political strategist David Axelrod warned Obama time and again that he didn’t have the votes to ram a comprehensive healthcare bill through Congress, Jarrett was among those who persuaded the president to ignore their advice and go for broke. The result: the hugely expensive, unworkable, unpopular, and probably unconstitutional program known as Obamacare.
● Emanuel tangled with Jarrett over her effort to put the prestige of the presidency behind Chicago’s bid for the 2016 Summer Olympics. Emanuel believed that Jarrett was working on behalf of her old boss, Mayor Daley, and his political cronies, who stood to benefit from the billions of dollars that would be spent on the Olympics. That idea seemed to be lost on the president, who went to Copenhagen to make an impassioned plea for the Olympics, and came back home with egg on his face.
● Jarrett gave her stamp of approval for the $535 million taxpayer-funded loan guarantee to Solyndra, the California solar company that went belly up. Jarrett had close ties to the George Kaiser Family Foundation, which controlled 35.7 percent of Solyndra. The foundation had made a sizable donation to the University of Chicago Medical Center, where Jarrett once served as chairwoman and where one of Obama’s best friends, Eric Whitaker, is currently executive vice president.
● When Jarrett pushed Obama’s proposal to require church-run hospitals and universities to give their employees free contraception, chief of staff Bill Daley secretly arranged an Oval Office meeting between the president and New York Archbishop Timothy Dolan, the head of the U.S. Conference of Catholic bishops, who argued that the policy violated the principle of religious freedom. When Jarrett learned about Daley’s end-run, she went to the president and vented her anger. After that, Daley realized his days were numbered and resigned.
Rick wrote:Like these motherfuckers didn't lie about anything. smh
Rick wrote: Amnesty will give them citizenship, which will increase tax revenue. That's all it is. Upping the tax base.
The Sushi Hunter wrote:Rick wrote:Like these motherfuckers didn't lie about anything. smh
Ok Rick, before I jump to any conclusions here, please tell us of these “lies” and don’t include conspiracy theory accusations. Comparing Bush and his administration to the current is like comparing day to night. While Bush was in office, no Democratic parties were specifically singled out and targeted by the IRS, no AP phone records were ever secretly “acquired”, no type of Benghazi cover up occurred, etc. Bush didn’t even have any relatives living illegally in the U.S. I don't even recall a point where Bush used Democrats as the cause for not being able to do his job, unlike BOzo and his clown Posse Administration do on a bimonthly basis from day one.
conversationpc wrote:The Sushi Hunter wrote:Rick wrote:Like these motherfuckers didn't lie about anything. smh
Ok Rick, before I jump to any conclusions here, please tell us of these “lies” and don’t include conspiracy theory accusations. Comparing Bush and his administration to the current is like comparing day to night. While Bush was in office, no Democratic parties were specifically singled out and targeted by the IRS, no AP phone records were ever secretly “acquired”, no type of Benghazi cover up occurred, etc. Bush didn’t even have any relatives living illegally in the U.S. I don't even recall a point where Bush used Democrats as the cause for not being able to do his job, unlike BOzo and his clown Posse Administration do on a bimonthly basis from day one.
My three biggest strikes against the Bush administration:
1 - The Patriot Act...Perhaps the single worst piece of legislation ever passed by our government (until possibly recently).
2 - Compean & Ramos...What the Bush administration put these two border guards through in the name of appeasing Mexico was criminal.
3 - Medicare presription drugs...This cost and is costing us WAAAAAAAAAY more money than any good it's doing. This point may be moot now that we're headed towards full implementation of Obamacare but I believe it helped pave the way at the very least.
The Sushi Hunter wrote:Rick wrote:Like these motherfuckers didn't lie about anything. smh
Ok Rick, before I jump to any conclusions here, please tell us of these “lies” and don’t include conspiracy theory accusations. Comparing Bush and his administration to the current is like comparing day to night. While Bush was in office, no Democratic parties were specifically singled out and targeted by the IRS, no AP phone records were ever secretly “acquired”, no type of Benghazi cover up occurred, etc. Bush didn’t even have any relatives living illegally in the U.S. I don't even recall a point where Bush used Democrats as the cause for not being able to do his job, unlike BOzo and his clown Posse Administration do on a bimonthly basis from day one.
The Sushi Hunter wrote:Rick wrote: Amnesty will give them citizenship, which will increase tax revenue. That's all it is. Upping the tax base.
That's the biggest bunch of bullshit I've read here in a long time. In order to increase tax revenue, jobs have to be worked. There are NO jobs available, unless you're thinking about the workforce shifter - "factor out" the American born whites from the workforce and refill those jobs with no-whites. That's the only thing that's going on in regards to jobs right now. So Rick, your a baggage handler right? As soon as your company decides there are too many American born whites working for them, you'll be "factored out". Good luck.
Fact Finder wrote:WASHINGTON – A top IRS official in the division that reviews nonprofit groups will invoke the Fifth Amendment and refuse to answer questions before a House committee investigating the agency’s improper screening of conservative nonprofit groups.
Lois Lerner, the head of the exempt organizations division of the IRS, won’t answer questions about what she knew about the improper screening – or why she didn’t reveal it to Congress, according to a letter from her defense lawyer, William W. Taylor 3rd.
Lerner was scheduled to appear before the House Oversight committee Wednesday.
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