Boomchild wrote:slucero wrote:All the things you mention in your paragraph
- reducing nuclear arms
- border security
- illegal (or legal) immigration
- Patriot Act
- ACA (obamacare)
- NDAA
- gun control
.... have to be approved by Congress... none can be done by Obama unilaterally.. he can threaten, has threatened, but ultimately it always falls to Congress.
gun control was killed by Congress
the Patriot Act was renewed by Congress
Obamacare was passed by Congress
the NDAA was approved by Congress
I think Obama is nothing more than a puppet.. who's just
really bad at being a puppet.. and any blame directed at him (or Bush, or any POTUS) that does not equally damn Congress, is akin to blaming the "sky for being blue"...
I know Congress has to pass these things. I know he is not the only problem. But he is a big part of it by coming up with these ideas and convincing lawmakers and voters that this is what we should do. I never said that Congress wasn't a part of our issues. I think I have made that clear in prior posts in this thread. If he comes up with the ideas and gets the rest of them to go along with it, he carries as much blame as the others.
Obama doesn't come up with these ideas... he has an army of "advisers" that do.. and many of these things have been on both party's agendas for decades..
Universal healthcare - has been a longstanding wish of BOTH parties.... in fact the Republicans also proposed it about a decade or so ago..
Immigration reform - is a "political football" that both parties have used when they need to unify their base... we've had 7 immigration reform bills sine the 1960's... SEVEN... it's why Bush didn't secure the borders, and why Obama hasn't.. because as long as immigration can be an issue, both parties know they have another tool, with which they can fool the populace, yet again..
The Patriot Act - was simply a blatant grab at liberty by the government, at a time when the populace would accept it. Why do you think it was called "The Patriot Act"? If it had been called the "We're Taking Some Of Your Freedom Act" people would have revolted.
Changing the people in Washington isn't gonna solve a thing until there is a change in the morality in the nation.. a change that results in a citizens who become Congress-people who create and PASS legislation that repeals existing laws that have subverted or abrogated the Constitutional. That is gonna be a huge to impossible problem to solve, because:
- the federal government believes it has a right to exist, and
- has re-engineered Washington to to personally benefit Congress-people who go there, and
- has successfully decoupled citizens from their Constitution, creating an apathetic, disinterested populace
The federal government's own hubris is what is going to be the nations downfall.. and there is very little anyone can do to stop it. There is lots of historical precedent for this, many refer to the Fall of Rome as an example... and it is somewhat accurate.
The common thread is that when government hubris exceeds a nations ability to support it, the nation falls into decline.