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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:16 pm

Boomchild wrote:Specific data please.


Do your own research. Forbes and all sorts of periodicals have covered the varying healthcare systems out there. But you're the guy claiming that they all suck ass equally.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby steveo777 » Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:20 pm

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steveo777 wrote:Ok, give TNC a break. This is the kind of distortion you'll see anywhere, when talking to a liberal. They have a deficiency in math, history and truth. Given facts, the best you'll ever get back from them will be that you'll called some vile name.


It's pretty obvious that you delusional clowns don't talk to liberals, or associate with anyone that challenges your beliefs. Let us count the ways you guys are living in a Teabagger vacuum.

European countries always had socialized medicine - FALSE.
Government healthcare is a sign of dictatorship - (laughably) FALSE.
Obamacare, the sweetheart giveaway to the HMOs, is actually a Trojan horse for single payer - IDIOTIC
Singlepayer will destroy the US healthcare system, despite singlepayer Medicare being in existence for decades - RETARDED

Your best friend is your AM talk radio and it shows. Why don't you curl up with your dog eared bedside copy of "No Spin Zone For Kids: The Coloring Book Edition" and try to unstick the pages?


You, sir, just proved my point. A teabagger is one who inserts his balls into another man or woman's mouth. I like peaches. You must like balls in your mouth and a ride down the hershey highway. These things you speak of have nothing to do with politics, but again, in your distorted vision, you will try to make it that way. Here is one for ya - When we go through the history books of presidential legacy, you will turn to the page with the header that says "Barack Hussein Obama". There will be no text, only a shit stain on the page.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby slucero » Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:27 pm

Boomchild wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Boomchild wrote:Their systems have never gone form great to worse. That's why they haven't taken to the streets. Here in the U.S. Obamacare will take a good system, not perfect and make the issues worse then they are.

Actually, Switzerland went from a system like ours to the HMOs being run as non-profits w/ a universal mandate. Guess what? Their system went from mediocre to excellent and nobody is talking about reverting back. Of course, you already knew this and just chose not to mention it, right? :roll:


Specific data please.



see what I mean...

no facts... just "I'm right".. and all of you are wrong..

interesting that the aforementioned Forbes.. compared Swiss healthcare to Obamacare.. and said that:

"Obamacare Adapts The Worst Of Swisscare, Rejects The Best"
http://www.forbes.com/sites/sallypipes/ ... -the-best/

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:30 pm

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Boomchild wrote:Specific data please.


Do your own research. Forbes and all sorts of periodicals have covered the varying healthcare systems out there. But you're the guy claiming that they all suck ass equally.


I didn't say they suck ass. The point is that they are not any better then what we have here. My points are that Obamacare here in America is not the answer. No matter how you shape it people will fall through the cracks, go without coverage and die because of it. That's reality. B.O. wants you to believe through Obamacare these things won't happen.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:37 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:But the systems won't be kept as they are. Nobody expects that. Reagan and Greenspan already reformed SS. Anyone ever tell you you sound alot like Chicken Little?


And still the government reports it's not sustainable. The basic premise is doomed to fail. You can make all the changes you want but, all it does is just delay the eventual outcome which will be disaster. It's like putting a band aid on a tumor and claiming your cured.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:44 pm

slucero wrote:see what I mean...

no facts... just "I'm right".. and all of you are wrong..


Not my job to educate the know-it-alls. I've done the reading and have my own opinions. If you haven't done due diligence, then refrain from spouting off. Or, act like you, and just plagiarize other websites.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:46 pm

Boomchild wrote:And still the government reports it's not sustainable. The basic premise is doomed to fail. You can make all the changes you want but, all it does is just delay the eventual outcome which will be disaster. It's like putting a band aid on a tumor and claiming your cured.


Tell ya what. You can wait it out in your apocalypse bunker, as I gladly collect your SS check and spend it on beer. Deal?
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:47 pm

Boomchild wrote: My points are that Obamacare here in America is not the answer. No matter how you shape it people will fall through the cracks, go without coverage and die because of it. That's reality.

And apparently the nightmare scenario you aspire to. America can do better.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby slucero » Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:50 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
slucero wrote:see what I mean...

no facts... just "I'm right".. and all of you are wrong..


Not my job to educate the know-it-alls. I've done the reading and have my own opinions. If you haven't done due diligence, then refrain from spouting off. Or, act like you, and just plagiarize other websites.


You pointed us at Forbes, and referenced the Swiss HC system as a model.. so I just followed your lead and sourced some info there and found some info.

So, here's your chance to refute the articles findings with your own empirical data, and own opinion... (sans name-calling if you can resist)

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:55 pm

slucero wrote:You pointed us at Forbes, and referenced the Swiss HC system as a model.. so I just followed your lead and sourced some info there and found some info.


Good for you, bro. Def not the article I read. But the one you posted states that healthcare should be de-coupled from employment. Do you agree with that? Did you even read the article?

slucero wrote:So, here's your chance to refute the articles findings with your own empirical data, and own opinion... (sans name-calling if you can resist)


Umm, I'll post what I want, when I want, and on my terms - not yours. Got it?
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby steveo777 » Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:13 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
slucero wrote:see what I mean...

no facts... just "I'm right".. and all of you are wrong..


Not my job to educate the know-it-alls. I've done the reading and have my own opinions. If you haven't done due diligence, then refrain from spouting off. Or, act like you, and just plagiarize other websites.


You shouldn't be talking about things you don't understand. If YOU had done the same deed you are asking us to do (due diligence), YOU would have found that the "present MO" is going to bankrupt this country. The reason I susbcribe to my ideals is because I love my family. I want them to have the opportunity to enjoy the same America I enjoyed as a child and most of my adult life. I don't want them to have to solute some piece of shit as they parade down the street. My family will never have to say the words "Heil Obama"......I'd be gone before that. You, on the other hand, will probably choose to go down with the shit.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby slucero » Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:47 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
slucero wrote:You pointed us at Forbes, and referenced the Swiss HC system as a model.. so I just followed your lead and sourced some info there and found some info.


Good for you, bro. Def not the article I read. But the one you posted states that healthcare should be de-coupled from employment. Do you agree with that? Did you even read the article?


SO you discount the article before you read it.. yet won't refute any of the points.. uh-huh...

De-coupling coverage from employers is fine, but a non-starter.... especially considering the ACA mandates US employers provide coverage.. The Swiss HC reform only increased coverage by 3%, because 96 percent of Swiss already had insurance coverage.

Yup read it.

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slucero wrote:So, here's your chance to refute the articles findings with your own empirical data, and own opinion... (sans name-calling if you can resist)


Umm, I'll post what I want, when I want, and on my terms - not yours. Got it?


...and that would be the reason no once actually debates anything with you.. because you apparently aren't interested in changing minds with fact.. instead you prefer to close minds with hate.

I guess none of us will be paying attention to you then when we actually want to talk facts.

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:10 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Boomchild wrote:And still the government reports it's not sustainable. The basic premise is doomed to fail. You can make all the changes you want but, all it does is just delay the eventual outcome which will be disaster. It's like putting a band aid on a tumor and claiming your cured.


Tell ya what. You can wait it out in your apocalypse bunker, as I gladly collect your SS check and spend it on beer. Deal?


By the time I reach the age to qualify for SS benefits (assuming it still exists), it won't be enough to purchase a bottle of beer.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:16 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Boomchild wrote: My points are that Obamacare here in America is not the answer. No matter how you shape it people will fall through the cracks, go without coverage and die because of it. That's reality.

And apparently the nightmare scenario you aspire to. America can do better.


Sure America can do better on many things. But Obamacare is not going to get us there. Sometimes reality is harsh and cruel for some. But, that fact is that is reality. No matter what plan or system is created, some will not benefit from it and go without. If you disagree then that's your opinion. Your entitled to it.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:32 pm

steveo777 wrote:
You shouldn't be talking about things you don't understand. If YOU had done the same deed you are asking us to do (due diligence), YOU would have found that the "present MO" is going to bankrupt this country. The reason I susbcribe to my ideals is because I love my family. I want them to have the opportunity to enjoy the same America I enjoyed as a child and most of my adult life. I don't want them to have to solute some piece of shit as they parade down the street. My family will never have to say the words "Heil Obama"......I'd be gone before that. You, on the other hand, will probably choose to go down with the shit.


The point is the liberal progressive mindset is to give people anything they want regardless of cost and the burdens it will put on children of America. They want what they want now and could care less of it's impact on the future (or no future) of this country. After all they dispute that our government has a spending problem and that the government spending has already been cut to the bone. Even though the facts prove otherwise. It's like some voodoo New Age mindset of believe and it will come true. I sometimes get the feeling I am watching one of those TV prosperity preachers. "Send me your money as a vow of faith and all your dreams of being wealthy and healthy will come true".
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:57 am

steveo777 wrote:You shouldn't be talking about things you don't understand. If YOU had done the same deed you are asking us to do (due diligence), YOU would have found that the "present MO" is going to bankrupt this country.


Entitlement spending did not crash the economy. Sorry. Like I said, hide in your bunker and let me spend your Soc. Security check on blow, fried chicken, and hookers. The program will be solvent for decades.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:02 am

slucero wrote:SO you discount the article before you read it..


No, I read it. And she is making the case that Obamacare needs to be MORE like Switzerland. Did you even read the article? Are you now advocating for even more government intervention in the marketplace? Do you even have a point?

slucero wrote:yet won't refute any of the points.. uh-huh...


Sorry. I have a life, dude. And I am not on your time.

slucero wrote:Yup read it.


Good for you. Private HMOs are also not allowed to make a profit in Switzerland. You agree with that sentiment as well, I take it?

slucero wrote:...and that would be the reason no once actually debates anything with you.. because you apparently aren't interested in changing minds with fact.. instead you prefer to close minds with hate.


What debate? Your buddy, Boomchild, lied and said that all European countried have always had cradle to grave healthcare. This is a lie. As Switzerland did not switch till the 90s. That was the point. I have no interest in scoring debate points with paranoid morons.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:22 am

Boomchild wrote:The point is the liberal progressive mindset is to give people anything they want regardless of cost and the burdens it will put on children of America. They want what they want now and could care less of it's impact on the future (or no future) of this country.


Yea, let the children go without healthcare and while we're at it, let's cut their food stamps too. Or let them go to the ER for primary care and have the costs be shifted to local governments (i.e. taxpayers). Sounds like a reallly economically sound plan. Stop hiding behind the children, you gutless pig. None of you give a damn.

Boomchild wrote: Even though the facts prove otherwise. It's like some voodoo New Age mindset of believe and it will come true.


Sounds kinda like the practice Vodoo economics. Your party is morally and ideologically bankrupt. By today's standards, Nixon and Ike would be socialists. You are just a bunch of clueless anti-government haters.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:28 am

Boomchild wrote:By the time I reach the age to qualify for SS benefits (assuming it still exists), it won't be enough to purchase a bottle of beer.


Ok. Keep thinking that. The system is fully capable of lasting another 50 years. Sounds like you are actually rooting for it to be destroyed. Do you get hard and moist just thinking of the day Grandma is forced to eat out of a dumpster? You are really one sick ass dude.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:32 am

steveo777 wrote: The reason I susbcribe to my ideals is because I love my family. I want them to have the opportunity to enjoy the same America I enjoyed as a child and most of my adult life


Your Norman Rockwell sanitized version of America is a daydream. If MR.com existed back in your day, you'd be bitching about those Negros stealing your seat at the lunch counter, or those long haired hippes trying to end Mr. Nixon's righteous war against the Vietcong. You are a fetishist of unchecked authoritarian power and an old fool.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:57 am

Fact Finder wrote:Mr. Nixons war? You are fucked up dude. Seek help and get rest. At least learn some history.


Correct. Nixon expanded the war into Cambodia and undermined Paris peace talks and even campaigned on having a "secret plan" to win it. He owned it. At least, LBJ at least had the fucking decency to step down. Don't lecture me, pissant.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Memorex » Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:14 am

TNC - I think you need to chill a little. When it comes to economics, liberals tend to start name calling and they argue somewhere above and below mathematical facts. I contend that no economic liberal could ever win an argument on facts with an economic conservative.

Socially, it has turned such that Republicans (not necessarily conservatives) do the same - they can't win the war on what is fair and just, so they point to anything but the facts.

Democrats own the argument socially and Republicans own the argument economically. That's just a fact.

The issue is that all this is horribly tangled together and we want to fix social issues with very bad economics, or we want to have economics that ignore certain facets of society.

Economically, conservatives are color-blind. They could care less who you are and where you came from. Everyone is equal. With liberals, they want to chop America up into it's individual pieces, creating "gifts" for everyone, based solely on what group they belong in and virtually nothing else. The idea of hard work has gone out the door.

So much of this thread is based on economics. Therefore, the conservatives are going to easy contain the liberals on ideas. This thread mentions very little about social issues because most of us are all on the same page. And those that aren't know they already lost the argument.

What we need is for conservatives to give up on trying to have it their "moral" way and liberals need to give up on any ideas for the economics of our country.

Here's how I know I am right. When faced with issues in the home, everyone is liberal socially (they will love their gay son and still love their daughter after she has an abortion). And no one runs their household budget like liberals. No one. They would not last a year.

I always tell my kids that the beauty of math is there is always one right answer. It's there. And there is always a way to get to it. It is the most simple and basic truth in our universe. Whey liberals don't see math when they look at these issues is beyond me.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby steveo777 » Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:10 am

Fact Finder wrote:
Instead, the House has kept up a frenetic pace, including a Saturday session, voting on bill after bill to reopen parts of the government, including the national parks to the National Institutes of Health.

The Senate, meanwhile, has all but shut down itself. Majority Leader Harry Reid, Nevada Democrat, hasn’t held a floor vote in nearly a week. The House has voted 26 times since the last Senate vote.

House Republicans passed legislation that would have ensured the U.S. didn’t default by insisting that its debt interest payments still be made, but Senate Democrats and President Obama rejected that idea.

Read more: http://p.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/ ... z2h3dZ9GXl


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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby steveo777 » Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:23 am

Fact Finder wrote:State Dept. Awards $5M Contract for Crystal Stem and Barware For Embassies



We ought to buy fucking sippy cups for these dirtbags. :evil:


That's some that math that libs think is ok. Spend...spend....spend, someone else will have to pay.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby slucero » Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:22 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
slucero wrote:SO you discount the article before you read it..


No, I read it. And she is making the case that Obamacare needs to be MORE like Switzerland. Did you even read the article? Are you now advocating for even more government intervention in the marketplace? Do you even have a point?


Actually she's making the case that Obamacare took the wrong parts of Swiss healthcare.. not that it needs to be more like it...

I don't mind regulation at all... but the government has no business being a healthcare provider.. regulate the market, ensure competition, and stay outta the way.


The_Noble_Cause wrote:
slucero wrote:yet won't refute any of the points.. uh-huh...


Sorry. I have a life, dude. And I am not on your time.


and yet you take the time to post here... yet add little to the convo..


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slucero wrote:Yup read it.


Good for you. Private HMOs are also not allowed to make a profit in Switzerland. You agree with that sentiment as well, I take it?


I'm not a fan of HMO's... Herding people through a PCP is not really that productive.. I understand the premise.. but I tend to think they are part of the demise of the patient-doctor relationship.


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slucero wrote:...and that would be the reason no once actually debates anything with you.. because you apparently aren't interested in changing minds with fact.. instead you prefer to close minds with hate.


What debate? Your buddy, Boomchild, lied and said that all European countried have always had cradle to grave healthcare. This is a lie. As Switzerland did not switch till the 90s. That was the point. [/quote[

That's between you and Boomchild..


The_Noble_Cause wrote:I have no interest in scoring debate points with paranoid morons.


I see... not interesting in changing minds with facts then.. just interested in denigrating others to make yourself feel intellectually and morally superior...




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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The Sushi Hunter » Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:49 am

steveo777 wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:State Dept. Awards $5M Contract for Crystal Stem and Barware For Embassies

We ought to buy fucking sippy cups for these dirtbags. :evil:


That's some that math that libs think is ok. Spend...spend....spend, someone else will have to pay.


Of course. That's one of the biggest things that makes up a Democrat.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:40 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:What debate? Your buddy, Boomchild, lied and said that all European countried have always had cradle to grave healthcare. This is a lie. As Switzerland did not switch till the 90s. That was the point. I have no interest in scoring debate points with paranoid morons.


Please show me where I said European countries have always had "cradle to grave healthcare"?Ii said the reason they are not marching in the streets against their healthcare system(s), is due to the fact that their healthcare systems have always been lacking. They never went from a great system to a bad system.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:46 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Boomchild wrote:By the time I reach the age to qualify for SS benefits (assuming it still exists), it won't be enough to purchase a bottle of beer.


Ok. Keep thinking that. The system is fully capable of lasting another 50 years. Sounds like you are actually rooting for it to be destroyed. Do you get hard and moist just thinking of the day Grandma is forced to eat out of a dumpster? You are really one sick ass dude.


Nope I am not rooting for for that at all. But I'm sure as hell not relying on SS to provide me income to sustain my life during retirement. BTW, Grandma is already eating out of dumpsters because SS is not able to sustain her.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:50 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Your Norman Rockwell sanitized version of America is a daydream.


The progressive liberal's and B.O.'s Hope and Change, Fundamentally Transforming America for the better is their daydream.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

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