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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby StoneCold » Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:32 pm

I guess this goes here. :)

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Apr 21, 2014 7:00 pm

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The_Noble_Cause wrote:Um, Glass-Steagall was the culmination of decades of repealing FDR's New Deal regulatory policies. What was it that Alan Greenspan said? Clinton was "the best Republican president we ever had." You low information rubes don't even understand the destructive conservative ideology you are on here defending. Twenty years from now, you'll blame Teddy Roosevelt for lax meat packing standards and Dennis Kucinich for starting the Iraq War. Up is down, right is left, the sky is green, and the only constant is that Republicans are stupid, dangerous, and ugly.

EDIT: The other part of this that I really love, is typically, conservatives have blamed the housing crash on over regulation. According to GOP revisionist mythology, banks were pressured by Democratic legislation such as redlining to extend loans 2 financially unfit minority families. Now you want to blame it on deregulation, one of the guiding principles of your own party?! Just how completely immune to reality are u? Meanwhile conservative contenders for 2016 are currently gearing up 2 outdo themselves in the race to deregulate Obamacare, Dodd-Frank, the consumer protection agency etc. Ultimately both parties are vulnerable to the influence of the banking sector. The question is do Americans stand a better chance of seeing reform within the party of FDR, Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders. Or the party of Jack Abramoff and Grover Norquist? Wakey wakey, dumb asses. Going to a Hannity Freedom Concert won't help you pay the bills or put a child thru college.



Trying to paint Clinton as some "other kind of Democrat"... is revisionist.. and well.. just plain sorry.

If you are gonna blather on forcing conservatives to own the actions of the members of their party then you have to own the members of your own. A Republican Congress passed Glass-Steagal... and Clinton signed it when he could have vetoed it...

He's still a Democrat. He's your man. That's on you.


Own it bitch.


... and Senator Obama never voted for the Patriot Act.. oh wait.... he did vote on extending it in 2005, and then campaigned that he'd repeal it as POTUS... won the election and instead of repealing it.. he extended it again...

Got some more revision there Fathead?

Glass Steagall is the name of the regulatory firewall passed by FDR to separate investment and commercial banking activities. It is NOT what Clinton sign into law. What Clinton signed got rid of Glass Steagall. As if it wasn't already transparently obvious, you haven't a god damn clue what the hell your talking about. Keep reciting ur zombie mantra, " Democrats bad, Republicans good, Democrats very bad..."
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:37 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote: Twenty years from now, you'll blame Teddy Roosevelt for lax meat packing standards and Dennis Kucinich for starting the Iraq War. Up is down, right is left, the sky is green, and the only constant is that Republicans are stupid, dangerous, and ugly.


Twenty years from now Obama and his supporters will be blaming George W. Bush for everything that has gone wrong during Obama's administration. The reality is left, right, Republican or Democrat it's all the same. At the end of the day, what you have is a one party system playing two card monte. That's the only constant here.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:19 am

StoneCold wrote:I guess this goes here. :)

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Try again, dolt.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ph ... office.asp
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby slucero » Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:29 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Glass Steagall is the name of the regulatory firewall passed by FDR to separate investment and commercial banking activities. It is NOT what Clinton sign into law. What Clinton signed got rid of Glass Steagall. As if it wasn't already transparently obvious, you haven't a god damn clue what the hell your talking about. Keep reciting ur zombie mantra, " Democrats bad, Republicans good, Democrats very bad..."


My bad.. I meant the "Banking Modernization Act of 1999"..... which I posted about that 2 years ago.. in this thread..

But the rest is fact... as is your wing-nut liberalism.

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:23 am

Fact Finder wrote:Note to TNC (aka Wlofie): this is the posting of a news story, not a proclamation from Fact Finder of wanting to go to war with Russia nor Malaysia nor East Asia nor Lower Akron. :D


First, an establishment figure like Wolf Blizter has precisely ZERO in common with the fearless, non-partisan, smut-peddling truth-teller like Al Goldstein (RIP). Secondly, you selectively post things for a reason. It's called an agenda. Don't pretend to post pro-war agitprop simply for the sake of keeping us all informed. The dirty little truth is, most "conservatives" and GOPers have never met a war they didn't want somebody else's children to go fight, get maimed or die in. Right now, most GOPers are hiding behind Rand Paul's brand of neo-isolationism. But as soon as they re-take power, it will be manifest stormtrooper imperialism all over again.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:24 am

slucero wrote:My bad.. I meant the "Banking Modernization Act of 1999"..... which I posted about that 2 years ago.. in this thread..

But the rest is fact... as is your wing-nut liberalism.


In your topsy-turvy, know-nothing world to be a "wing nut liberal" is to side with the board of Lehman Bros and want to take a machete to bank regulations and remove the Capital Gains tax. At this point, you are like a the gang-banged whore on prom night leaving a snail trail of spunk on the tiled dance floor claiming to be a virgin. Your stupidity has been revealed, and there's really no going back. Sorry.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:28 am

Fact Finder wrote:and Monker screams MORE, MORE, MORE!! :twisted:


Where is your link to this article? Why are you actively preying on the brain dead and always trying to hide that 99.9999% of the time your "facts" comes from a discredited right wing source?
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:58 am

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Obama Calls for Highest Sustained Taxation in U.S. History

In the budget proposal he presented to Congress last month, President Barack Obama called for what would be the highest level of sustained taxation ever imposed on the American people, according to the analysis published last week by the Congressional Budget Office.

and Monker screams MORE, MORE, MORE!! :twisted:


Not surprising. After all, Daddy Obama once wrote in an paper\article that limit a government could tax businesses and citizens is 100%. So we should be thankful that he has yet to go that far.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:05 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:The dirty little truth is, most "conservatives" and GOPers have never met a war they didn't want somebody else's children to go fight, get maimed or die in.


Gee, if that's true then most "Liberals" think that someone else's money belongs to everyone.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:16 am

Boomchild wrote:Not surprising. After all, Daddy Obama once wrote in an paper\article that limit a government could tax businesses and citizens is 100%. So we should be thankful that he has yet to go that far.


What he said was, "Theoretically, there is nothing that can stop the government from taxing 100% of income so long as the people get benefits from the government commensurate with their income which is taxed." And theoretically speaking, he is 100% right. But why let something like facts get in the way of your propaganda? Under FDR, the rich got taxed at 90% and stayed that way until JFK lowered it to 70%. My memory is a little hazy. Help me out here. What is the top marginal tax rate currently under Obama? And if the rich, as a share of the population has grown exponentially, why isn't Obama taking after his Democratic predecessors and soaking them, as you claim? I think we can now safely add you to the list of uneducated, ass-dragging liars that populate this thread (not that there was ever any doubt).
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:19 am

Boomchild wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:The dirty little truth is, most "conservatives" and GOPers have never met a war they didn't want somebody else's children to go fight, get maimed or die in.


Gee, if that's true then most "Liberals" think that someone else's money belongs to everyone.


This thread speaks for itself. The Conservative hive mind does not permit independent thought. This can be clearly seen in all the debunked spam emails which get posted here as gospel on a near daily basis. You people are too dumb to even know how to do a Google search.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:00 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:and Monker screams MORE, MORE, MORE!! :twisted:


Where is your link to this article? Why are you actively preying on the brain dead and always trying to hide that 99.9999% of the time your "facts" comes from a discredited right wing source?


Isn't it obvious? When FF attempts to 'debate' or discuss his POV, he comes off like an idiot who has no clue what he's talking about. He needs somebody to do the writing for him because he does not have the ability to do it himself.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Wed Apr 23, 2014 1:12 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Boomchild wrote:Not surprising. After all, Daddy Obama once wrote in an paper\article that limit a government could tax businesses and citizens is 100%. So we should be thankful that he has yet to go that far.


What he said was, "Theoretically, there is nothing that can stop the government from taxing 100% of income so long as the people get benefits from the government commensurate with their income which is taxed." And theoretically speaking, he is 100% right. But why let something like facts get in the way of your propaganda? Under FDR, the rich got taxed at 90% and stayed that way until JFK lowered it to 70%. My memory is a little hazy. Help me out here. What is the top marginal tax rate currently under Obama? And if the rich, as a share of the population has grown exponentially, why isn't Obama taking after his Democratic predecessors and soaking them, as you claim? I think we can now safely add you to the list of uneducated, ass-dragging liars that populate this thread (not that there was ever any doubt).


I don't recall saying that the theory was wrong or right in my comment. However, I would not want my government taxing me at 100%. That's letting the government control what I can earn. Pay people what their government "thinks" a person is worth. As far as Obama hiking taxes into the range of past administrations, last I checked his term is not over and we have a long way to go. Doesn't change the fact the Obama believes in a re-distribution type system. He admitted it himself prior to running for POTUS. That type of system usually includes high taxation as part of the system. So don't worry he'll manage to shoe horn it in. Cause after all, behind closed doors and out of the public eye, all these fuckers in Washington are on the same page. Laughing their asses off thinking about how the public thinks we still have a real two party system of government. Thank you for posting the details of what daddy Obama thought was a good idea. You know what they say, like father, like son.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:37 pm

Boomchild wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Boomchild wrote:Not surprising. After all, Daddy Obama once wrote in an paper\article that limit a government could tax businesses and citizens is 100%. So we should be thankful that he has yet to go that far.


What he said was, "Theoretically, there is nothing that can stop the government from taxing 100% of income so long as the people get benefits from the government commensurate with their income which is taxed." And theoretically speaking, he is 100% right. But why let something like facts get in the way of your propaganda? Under FDR, the rich got taxed at 90% and stayed that way until JFK lowered it to 70%. My memory is a little hazy. Help me out here. What is the top marginal tax rate currently under Obama? And if the rich, as a share of the population has grown exponentially, why isn't Obama taking after his Democratic predecessors and soaking them, as you claim? I think we can now safely add you to the list of uneducated, ass-dragging liars that populate this thread (not that there was ever any doubt).


I don't recall saying that the theory was wrong or right in my comment. However, I would not want my government taxing me at 100%. That's letting the government control what I can earn. Pay people what their government "thinks" a person is worth. As far as Obama hiking taxes into the range of past administrations, last I checked his term is not over and we have a long way to go. Doesn't change the fact the Obama believes in a re-distribution type system. He admitted it himself prior to running for POTUS. That type of system usually includes high taxation as part of the system. So don't worry he'll manage to shoe horn it in. Cause after all, behind closed doors and out of the public eye, all these fuckers in Washington are on the same page. Laughing their asses off thinking about how the public thinks we still have a real two party system of government. Thank you for posting the details of what daddy Obama thought was a good idea. You know what they say, like father, like son.


"Like father, like son" has been proven totally false.

Papa Bush was smart enough to stop short of invading Iraq. Mini-Bush wasn't.

Should we compare Ron Reagan and Ronald Reagan? Couldn't get more different then those two.

The politics of Obama's father are very irrelevant.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:42 pm

Fact Finder wrote:It's a good thing when I wake up the brain dead. Takes awhile sometimes, but there they are, in all of their brain dead glory.


You don't 'wake up' anybody. If anything, you put normal people to sleep with your repetitive copy/pasting of meaningless propaganda. The 'brain dead' mindlessly read and follow the propaganda because they need somebody else to think for them, just as you need others to type your points for you because you can't write them yourself.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:44 pm

Fact Finder wrote:
The New York Times

After Zeituni Onyango, the woman President Obama once called Auntie, died in a South Boston nursing home this month, her closest relatives gathered her belongings at her nearby apartment. There, framed photographs of her with the president covered the wall.

Weeping before a polished wood coffin at her wake this past Saturday, they described Ms. Onyango, the half sister of the president’s father, as “the spirit of the Obama family” and talked about raising money to send her body back to Kenya. Mr. Obama helped pay funeral expenses and sent a condolence note, Ms. Onyango’s family members said, but the president did not attend, as he was golfing.



:oops: :cry: :evil:


Seems like the caring thing to do.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby gr8dane » Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:07 am

Monker wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:It's a good thing when I wake up the brain dead. Takes awhile sometimes, but there they are, in all of their brain dead glory.


You don't 'wake up' anybody. If anything, you put normal people to sleep with your repetitive copy/pasting of meaningless propaganda. The 'brain dead' mindlessly read and follow the propaganda because they need somebody else to think for them, just as you need others to type your points for you because you can't write them yourself.


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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:45 pm

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Makes perfect sense to me, boomchild. I wouldn't miss a golf game for an Obama funeral either.


It's just too bad it wasn't someone closer to home. 8)
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:49 pm

I bet Putin is really shaking in his boots now. If not, maybe B.O. needs to draw another one of his red lines. :lol:

Kerry to Putin: 'Window to Change Course Closing'

Secretary of State John Kerry issued a stern warning to Russia Thursday evening to take concrete measures to de-escalate the crisis in Ukraine or face further sanctions.


http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ukrain ... ing-n89201
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:51 am

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K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Makes perfect sense to me, boomchild. I wouldn't miss a golf game for an Obama funeral either.


It's just too bad it wasn't someone closer to home. 8)


Wow, what kinda sick mind wishes the death of another person, especially the President.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:04 am

Boomchild wrote:I bet Putin is really shaking in his boots now. If not, maybe B.O. needs to draw another one of his red lines. :lol:

Kerry to Putin: 'Window to Change Course Closing'

Secretary of State John Kerry issued a stern warning to Russia Thursday evening to take concrete measures to de-escalate the crisis in Ukraine or face further sanctions.


http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ukrain ... ing-n89201


Yeah, I bet Bin Laden felt the same way. And, Ghaddafi.

Which brings up a point. When the discussion was supporting the rebellion in Lybia, Republicans and conservatives had nothing but negative things to say about our support. Now there is nothing but negative things to say about our inaction in Crimea. You all are nothing but political hypocrites.

What we are doing right now with Russia and Crimea is no different then the threats W made to Saddam regarding inspections in Iraq.

Frankly, that scares me. We should NOT commit to doing anything our not allies are willing to do WITH US> Until they are ready to start WWIII, we shouldn't be either. Starting yet another war is just plain stupid right now.

Which brings up yet another point. When W was President and people critiqued his handling of foreign affairs, Republicans and conservatives said it made us weaker, was unpatriotic, and if they didn't like it they should leave the country. Perhaps those hypocrites should now take their own advice.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun May 04, 2014 10:58 am

Fact Finder wrote:So, this week we learned that The Won was NEVER in the WH Situation Room on the night of the Benghazi raid....and now we learn this...

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I'm thinking all hell is about to break loose on the Benghazi front and maybe now we know why berry hired Clinton's Defense Attorney to come back to the WH. Hmmmmmmm

That leaked document is from a CNN reporter. CNN is in the tank for the Democratic Party and the communist liberals. By leaking this, they obviously have an ulterior agenda to make good Americans like Jeb Bush and Chris Christie and the Tea Partyers look bad. And then you obliviously post it and play right into their George Soros controlled filthy little hands. Y'know, i am starting to wonder just where ur political allegiance lies? The more u post, the more I question if u are on the payroll of MoveOn.org. I am onto u boy...
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon May 05, 2014 10:17 pm

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The GOP has always been, and shall always remain, the party of Nixon. The truth is, as more and more dirty secrets were revealed (burglary, antisemitism, sexism, sabotaging Vietnam peace talks), the more his favorable numbers shot up among Conservative mouth-breathers who just love authoritarian Daddy-figures to tell them what to do. If only he had nuked Vietnam, he would be exalted as having superhuman God-like Reagan powers.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Wed May 07, 2014 11:19 am

Ah yes, The Fuhrer has spoken!

There are indications, however, that President Obama may be growing a little more aggressive in his efforts to curb domestic carbon emissions. During a Tuesday press briefing shortly after the release of the 2014 climate assessment, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney affirmed that the president would use executive authority to act despite the reluctance of Congressional Republicans.

“He is going to move forward using his executive authority, and this is an area I think many people recognize as one where a president can have a significant impact using his executive powers,” said Carney.

The loudest climate change wake-up call

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby slucero » Wed May 07, 2014 3:47 pm

All of which will result in higher cost to the consumer... just what the weak economy needs to push it back into... oh wait.. it's already in recession...

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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Wed May 07, 2014 8:51 pm

slucero wrote:All of which will result in higher cost to the consumer... just what the weak economy needs to push it back into... oh wait.. it's already in recession...


All the while lining the pockets of "those rich people" who will push out alternative\green energy products. Interestingly, aren't these the type of people that liberals are so pissed off about? By the current track record of B.O.'s administration investment in these "green energy" companies it seems there will be more failures wasting more tax dollars.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Thu May 08, 2014 10:49 pm

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Look at California, they use much less gas so now a Democrat in their Senate wants to pass a milage tax at the rate of a 1/2 cent per mile. That's really going over well with the people,NOT! Be careful what you vote for.


I don't understand. They should be happy. After all, it's for the good of the environment.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Fri May 16, 2014 2:31 am

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Maybe he'll do that when he buries another terrorist leader at sea, if there is anything left after he is blown up with a smart bomb.
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