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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:21 pm

Fact Finder wrote:1m

US officials: Military weighs plan to send a small number of additional troops to Iraq. - @AP

see original on twitter.com


The report I heard was that the military personnel they are considering to send are to beef up security at U.S. maned locations as well as add to the team of "advisors". They're not being sent to combat ISIS directly.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby JBlake » Fri Aug 22, 2014 6:13 am

Time to scorch some serious earth over there.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby JBlake » Fri Aug 22, 2014 7:32 am

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Sen. McCain on ISIS threat: Obama 'still doesn't get it'

Arizona Sen. John McCain on Thursday called President Obama's remarks on the execution of American journalist James Foley "moving" -- but also said his policy on the Islamic State terror group is failing.

"He said we have to contain ISIS. We don't have to contain ISIS. We have to defeat ISIS, and we have to do whatever is necessary," the Republican lawmaker said on Fox News' "America's Newsroom."

"Failures of policies have consequences, and we're paying [for] those consequences in enormous cost of human blood. It's a debacle, and he still doesn't get it."

McCain called the growing chaos in Iraq "predictable" after Obama's "huge mistake" of not leaving a residual U.S. force behind.

"This didn't have to happen," he said. "This is an abject failure."

McCain said he wants to see a "comprehensive strategy" explained to the American people with the goal of defeating ISIS "wherever they are."

"It's more than pinprick airstrikes," he said. "We're gonna need more boots on the ground -- and that does not mean combat troops -- but it does mean a significant increase."

McCain hopes Foley's death will send a "strong message" to Americans that ISIS could stage an attack on U.S. soil. "They will be coming to America unless we stop them," he warned.



The last time a group of individuals was this out of control was during WWII and it was the Japanese. I think it's time we nuke these inbred nutjobs. The ones lucky enough to survive will just be happy they live another day to wipe their assholes out.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:09 pm

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I'm afraid we'll have to sustain a Pearl Harbor/9/11 type hit before that happens again.


"We can absorb a terrorist attack. We'll do everything we can to prevent it, but even a 9/11, even the biggest attack ever . . . we absorbed it and we are stronger," Obama reportedly said.


I would not be surprised if plans for an attack on U.S. soil is already underway. The fact that our southern border leaks like a sieve doesn't help matters. It may be something that makes 9/11 look like a small event.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:20 pm

JBlake wrote:Time to scorch some serious earth over there.

Go enlist, tough guy.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:12 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:I wish I was young enough I could. Of course, I pitty the ones that did that have to call this happless idiot Commander and Chief.

I only pity that they have to risk their lives defending morons like you, FF, and JBlake, all of whom represent the very worst of America and Western civilization. What have we seen in this thread so far? Well, when it comes to serious hard-hitting reporting, Inquistr (wtf?) is the most trusted name in Conservative fake news. FF openly and proudly admits to posting links to news stories he doesn't even bother checking out. It's just a midget clown car train wreck all the way. I just shake my head in disbelief and laugh. This country is doomed.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:46 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:TNC, I've been to New york Four times.

And each time I bet you had front row tickets to see "Mamma Mia" and spent the evening walking around Chelsea village holding JBlake's warm, cum-stained hand. Prolly told your wife that you were away on business too.

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:When did you move there? I'm sure you stand out.

The crack research department at "Inquistr" has led you astray again, I'm afraid. I'm not from NY. I'm sure you stick out in the crowd no matter where you go, like most head-smacking retards in a reflective drool bib. Fuck off.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Aug 24, 2014 11:41 pm

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Democrats are miserable people, see TNC.

Look around..all I see in this thread are people who are embarrassed of their own country, it's president, and nostalgically pine for the good ole days (coincidentally when blacks had to use separate restrooms, women couldn't vote, old people died of hypothermia in the gutter, and workers had no rights). Don't get it twisted - your dumb retrograde ass writhes around in self-loathing like a blue ribbon county fair pig in shit.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:13 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Ya, I remember all those things, brought to you by the Democratic party. The home base for Slavery in the South, the Jim Crow laws, David Dukes, Geroge Wallace, Robert Byrd, ect, The Ku Klux Klan, Bill " in a better day he'd be bringing us coffee"Clinton, and Lyndon "There, that ought to get us their votes for the next 50 years"Johnson, after a Republican Congress wrote and passed the Civil Rights Bill. You such a liar, but a much bigger asshole.

Once upon a time, in some distant faraway portion of the crab nebula, the GOP were on the right side of history. Once upon a time they were also in support of things like universal healthcare and public works. Political parties change over time. It's funny you mention the South, considering that the MODERN Republican Party is increasingly a a Southern regional party. Byrd and Wallace all renounced their racist views. Duke has not and is actually now an active and current Republican. Why is that? Why don't you include LBJ's quote of "losing the south for a generation"? Why did Ike, another liberal Republican progressive like Lincoln, have to send in the National Guard to Little Rock to enforce desegregation? You just sloppily threw together over a century of political history without so much as an iota of context. I guess that's what happens when you're spoonfed US History 101 from a pickup truck AM radio. Tho I have a feeling you would purposely flunk the exam, just so you could offer Professor Limbaugh and TA Hannity some after-school oral favors.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Rick » Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:39 am

Boomchild wrote:
Rick wrote:
Boomchild wrote:That's assuming that those that are having children they cannot afford would act responsibly and use it because it's just handed out. People are having children they can't afford because they aren't responsible and\or don't seem to care. There are programs now that give out free birth control. So, far it's doesn't seem to have that great of an impact.


True, but there are a lot of hoops to jump through to get them. Lazy people won't bother. Hell, condoms aren't expensive and they won't use those either.


And it seems that there are a large number of lazy, couldn't give a shit people out there creating these children they can't support. So even if you were to hand them a rubber or whatever birth control they would be too lazy to use it. As long as we have government that will hand out money for people continuing to having multiple children they can't afford people won't change. Cutting off the flow of increased support would go a lot further. At least that's my opinion.


This is your centrist Democrat speaking. I agree. I don't think government funds should go to anything that people impose upon themselves. Saying that, I do agree with the government funding any STD or disease related research to find a cure.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Aug 25, 2014 4:00 pm

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Nope TNC, bullshit all you want, they were DEMOCRATS when they were racist.

So? And they remained Democrats long after they renounced their racist views. Can’t say the same about David Duke, who is still racist, but became a fiercely loyal Republican. I ask again, why is that?
K.C.Journey Fan wrote: Robert Byrd never to my knowledge denied being a klan member.

Never said he did.
K.C.Journey Fan wrote: Sorry, the argument that old South Democrats are now New Republicans is horseshit, like most of your spin and babbleing.

Next time I will try to provide a link from Inquisitr for you. :roll: It is a widely known fact (at least to anyone with an above sped class reading level and NOT homeschooled by fundamentalist Dittoheads) that Southern delegates walked away from the Democratic convention en masse when the party adopted civil rights as part of the platform in the 40s. It happened. Deal with it. Strom Thurmond is a prime example of Democrat turned Republican, all due to the Party’s support for civil rights.
K.C.Journey Fan wrote: In your world, the jim Crow laws won't count because they are old.

Most Jim Crow laws were local and state laws. What they have to do with national Dem leaders like Bill Clinton or Barack Obama in the year 2014 is a big stretch. However, the RNC, in the year 2014, is actively gerrymandering black voting districts. Why don’t we talk about that?
K.C.Journey Fan wrote: I still can't find anywhere on here where I've said I was a Republican. As a matter of fact, I remember saying several times I didn't like either Bush. Maybe someone could read it to you, but I doubt you have any friends.

Great. And if John Travolta says he loves the taste of Kelly Preston’s pretty pink pussy more than Horshack’s ass, does that make it true? If it walks like a neo-con, and it talks like a neo-con, and it brainlessly repeats talking points and propaganda like a neo-con, then guess what? Well, you get the idea..
K.C.Journey Fan wrote: I have defended Bush sometimes because fucks like you lie to futher your Socialist agendas and make him appear much worse then he was. Most of the mess we have now will fit squarely on Dodd,Frank, Pelosi, Ried, Carter, and Clintons shoulders. Bush warned no less then 21 times about the Freddie and Fannie bubble, but didn't get anything changed.

Alan Greenspan, Fed chair, invincible demi-god of free market principles, and Ayn Rand protégé, could have reined in the housing bubble at any time. He never did. Markets, in his view, were/are self correcting. Bush DID find plenty of time to talk up WMD mushroom clouds, to interfere with Terri Schiavo, to try to privatize Social Security, and to promote home ownership among every American, qualified or unqualified. The truth is, as successful as Freddie and Fannie were during the bubble, it was nothing compared to Wall Street. Rein in Freddie and Fannie all you want. Would that have ended investment banks from buying up and securitizing bad loans? Like any asset bubble, the sky was the limit until it all came crashing down.
K.C.Journey Fan wrote: Obama could take lessons from Bush on how to be a leader.

Just a hint - if you’re trying to prove that you really “didn’t like Bush”, this isn't the best way to go about it. You’re clearly about as independent from the GOP as my nutsack is from my left thigh on a warm summer day.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Mon Aug 25, 2014 4:18 pm

Why don't you post the entire article? Maybe because it doesn't say what you want it to:

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-28898223
The scientists say that the warming of ocean temperatures might be causing these hydrates to send bubbles of gas drifting through the water column.

They do not appear to be reaching the surface.

"The methane is dissolving into the ocean at depths of hundreds of metres and being oxidised to CO2," said Prof Skarke.

"But it is important to say we simply don't have any evidence in this paper to suggest that any carbon coming from these seeps is entering the atmosphere."


In other words, these seeps MAY BE CAUSED BY CLIMATE CHANGE but the METHANE IS NOT EXITING THE OCEAN. The CO2 of the oxidized methane is also not entering the atmosphere.

So, you have absolutely no point. In fact, you are proving the opposite. The same type of thing is happening in the permafrost. Due to climate change, some permafrost is no longer "permanent'...it thaws, releasing methane directly into the atmosphere causing even more warming. If climate change were not real, NEITHER of these would be an issue today.

As for volcanoes...

All of the accumulate vulcanism on the planet releases only a tiny fraction of what humans do. What I find amazing is if you take the accumulated CO2 emissions from vulcanism for am entire year....we humans do that in less than THREE DAYS. So, again, you have no point. And, yes, the difference can be measured because the carbon released by fossil fuels is a different isotope than the carbon released from vulcanism...

Again, you have no point.


Fact Finder wrote:Monker, can you go shut this off? Shut off the Iceland Volcano while you are at it. It's getting hot in here.

Researchers say they have found more than 500 bubbling methane vents on the seafloor off the US east coast.

The unexpected discovery indicates there are large volumes of the gas contained in a type of sludgy ice called methane hydrate.

There are concerns that these new seeps could be making a hitherto unnoticed contribution to global warming.

The scientists say there could be about 30,000 of these hidden methane vents worldwide.

Previous surveys along the Atlantic seaboard have shown only three seep areas beyond the edge of the US continental shelf.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:34 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:like most head-smacking retards in a reflective drool bib.


The_Noble_Cause wrote: It is a widely known fact (at least to anyone with an above sped class reading level and NOT homeschooled by fundamentalist Dittoheads) that Southern delegates walked away from the Democratic convention en masse when the party adopted civil rights as part of the platform in the 40s.


It's interesting how you like call people out as racist and insensitive to groups of people. Yet you seem to have no problem with throwing out names like sped and retard. Then you expect to be taken seriously. What a joke.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:39 pm

Boomchild wrote:It's interesting how you like call people out as racist and insensitive to groups of people. Yet you seem to have no problem with throwing out names like sped and retard.

Is that interesting? Because it sounds about as interesting as watching the feed from the International Space Station, or maybe that PBS documentary where that guy builds a cabin in Alaska with his bare hands. I don't think you have a fucking clue what hypocrisy is. And I am the last person in the world to tell people to be PC or to get in touch with their warm and fuzzy feelings.

Boomchild wrote:Then you expect to be taken seriously. What a joke.
Hypocrite.


I don't care "how" you take me. I don't care if you read my posts at all.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:18 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Exactly. I remember about four years ago when Glen Beck had a show about REAL American history, with REAL Historieans on it.

LMAO! Like discredited plagiarist, David Barton? If Beck's sources are soo good, why is he currently subject to a multi-million dollar defamation suit? Where were his fact checkers then, huh? Can't wait till this fat faced swindler is taken to the cleaners. The end of the road is nigh...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morn ... nd-attack/

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:They all ranted about how McGraw hill and others were rewriting history books for schools making Republican Presodents look like idiots and every Democrat President look like a God. Proppaganda at it's best.

And I'm sure you brainlessly lapped it up like Octomom at a trailer hitch sucking contest. It's very easy to vilify the education system. That way you keep the populace dumb and let the corporations run roughshod. Already in America, civics class is a thing of the past.

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:You know, the books TNC has read to him.

If only I received the quality education from a coke-addled morning zoo DJ like you did. :roll: Tell me, can those credits be applied at burger school or ITT tech to earn your 2 year certificate as an anal probe technician? I feel sorry for your pathetic dumb hick ass. Everybody is liberal and out to get you. Even a fortune 500 company with ties to Bush, like McGraw-Hill. Does anything NOT have a liberal agenda? When you spot the 'Please Recycle" icon on the back of a beer bottle, do you shake your fists at the heavens and scream the name, "George Soros!" as loud as you can, while everybody at the bar slowly scooches a few stools down. One thing I can say, I don't need to watch The Colbert Report anymore with you around. Between the bad spelling, erroneous revisionist history, and all around Reagan cock-worshiping, you are all the satirical conservative entertainment I can handle. Thanks. :lol:
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:09 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Is that interesting? Because it sounds about as interesting as watching the feed from the International Space Station, or maybe that PBS documentary where that guy builds a cabin in Alaska with his bare hands. I don't think you have a fucking clue what hypocrisy is. And I am the last person in the world to tell people to be PC or to get in touch with their warm and fuzzy feelings.


If your the last person to tell people to be PC then why do you keep bringing up the subject of people being racist? Your actions tell a different story. Plus you have a gutter mouth of a teenager. Just another reason that down grades your thoughts and opinions.

The_Noble_Cause wrote:I don't care "how" you take me. I don't care if you read my posts at all.


So if you don't post here for people to read your thoughts and opinions then just what is the reason? I get it, you just like to hear yourself talk. Makes sense.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:20 pm

Fact Finder wrote:He's trying to look smart. #notworking


If only. Most of these posts are written with one hand on an Iphone as I drop a shit. Maybe YOU should try, y'know, actually READING some of the plagiarized blogs and spam e-mails you post. It could help to raise your reading comprehension. Don't hurt yourself tho. Maybe "My Pet Goat", from the George W. Bush book club selection, is more your speed. And, hey, who knows? Next time your wife discovers your stash of Blueboy magazines, you can tell her with a straight face that you read it strictly for the articles and almost be convincing
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:20 pm

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:MR is the only friend he has, he's wrong there too.


Yup. And Iraq had WMDS and I am a New Yorker and Bush was a great leader. Please, keep 'em coming, Nostradumbfuck.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:42 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/25/burger-king-obama_n_5709683.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592


Well, if this deal goes through, maybe Burger King could send B.O. a Whopper Value Meal as a parting gift. Most likely they'll have to send it to him out on the golf course.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby slucero » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:22 am

LOL.....


Australian Bureau of Meteorology ‘altering climate figures’ to fit a predetermined view of global warming.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nationa ... b4b142aa72

THE Bureau of Meteorology has been accused of manipulating historic temperature records to fit a predetermined view of global warming.

Researcher Jennifer Marohasy claims the adjusted records resemble “propaganda” rather than science.

Dr Marohasy has analysed the raw data from dozens of locations across Australia and matched it against the new data used by BOM showing that temperatures were progressively warming.

In many cases, Dr Marohasy said, temperature trends had changed from slight cooling to dramatic warming over 100 years.

BOM has rejected Dr Marohasy’s claims and said the agency had used world’s best practice and a peer reviewed process to modify the physical temperature records that had been recorded at weather stations across the country.

It said data from a selection of weather stations underwent a process known as “homogenisation” to correct for anomalies. It was “very unlikely” that data homogenisation impacted on the empirical outlooks.

In a statement to The Weekend Australian BOM said the bulk of the scientific literature did not support the view that data homogenisation resulted in “diminished physical veracity in any particular climate data set’’.

Historical data was homogenised to account for a wide range of non-climate related influences such as the type of instrument used, choice of calibration or enclosure and where it was located.

“All of these elements are subject to change over a period of 100 years, and such non-climate ­related changes need to be ­accounted for in the data for ­reliable analysis and monitoring of trends,’’ BOM said.

Account is also taken of temperature recordings from nearby stations. It took “a great deal of care with the climate record, and understands the importance of scientific integrity”.

Dr Marohasy said she had found examples where there had been no change in instrumentation or siting and no inconsistency with nearby stations but there had been a dramatic change in temperature trend towards warming after homogenisation.

She said that at Amberley in Queensland, homogenisation had resulted in a change in the temperature trend from one of cooling to dramatic warming.

She calculated homogenisation had changed a cooling trend in the minimum temperature of 1C per century at Amberley into a warming trend of 2.5C. This was despite there being no change in location or instrumentation.

BOM said the adjustment to the minimums at Amberley was identified through “neighbour comparisons”. It said the level of confidence was very high because of the large number of stations in the region. There were examples where homogenisation had resulted in a weaker warming trend.


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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby AR » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:26 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Burger King has been struggling to stay afloat. From comments I'm reading, this just might finish them off.


I think the future of $15 an hour burger flipping jobs will finish them off first.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:43 pm

slucero wrote:LOL.....


Australian Bureau of Meteorology ‘altering climate figures’ to fit a predetermined view of global warming.


Corruption in the scientific community? Say it isn't so! 8)
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Aug 28, 2014 1:16 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Rangel must be reading the same history books that TNC read...

And just which of the historical facts that I cited have been wrong? Are you denying that dozens of Southern delegates walked out of the 1948 Dem convention when the Dem party officially adopted civil rights as part of its platform? Answer that. You claim I'm lying, yet you can't disprove ANYTHING I have said. Let's talk about some of your facts...you claimed that WMDs were found in Iraq (a "fact" that even George W. Bush vehemently denies), and that Fannie and Freddie singlehandedly created the subprime meltdown (a "fact" disproved by Fed Reserve data, as well as the widely available FACT that Freddie/Fannie were distantly trailing Wall Street/private lenders in market share of subprime loans). I have nothing to gain by lying on here. You and FF have proven time and time again that you don't care about truth, honesty, or even simple common sense. Just look at your sources...Inquistr, Glenn Beck, spam emails from relatives - yep, you guys really know what the fuck you are talking about. :roll: If you read an anti-liberal talking point on a truck stop bathroom wall next to your phone number, you would come here and post it after sucking off Bubba in his big rig.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Monker » Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:10 am

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Here is the first part of the Glen Beck show from four years ago that TNC poo pooed. The other parts are easy to find on the right. Anyone interested in REAL history would be interested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inoWGGeqdmo


You said this was a panel of "leading historians". A simple Google search shows that David Barton is a former pastor who took up history. He is NOT a 'leading historian", but an amateur...an amateur who takes history and uses it to try to 'prove' his own distorted POLITICAL AND RELIGIOUS OPINION. He is really nothing more than a Republican/evangelical Christian propaganda machine.

if you take anything he says seriously, you're loopy.

Beck's intro was ridiculous. Why were there no black people in Johnny Tremain? Because that is how racist our society was at that time. Look at "Gone With the Wind." Is that a realistic portrayal of blacks during the the civil war? Hollywood was delivering what people wanted to see. But, to say it was some type of huge national conspiracy is just crazy. Why were the historical significance of certain black figures in paintings forgotten? Because we were an EXTREMELY racist society for hundreds of years. WTF is wrong with him, jumping into it being caused by schools and textbooks. It's just fucking stupid.

Anything that Beck says should be viewed with skepticism - AT BEST.

Frankly, some of those stories could be a great plot for movies in TODAY'S world. "12 Years a Slave" was a big deal. "Glory" is a great movie. You can go back to "The Color Purple" for a more realistic approach to black history, whether you like the movie or not. Another is the story of the Tuskegee Airmen. To say that there is a conspiracy hiding this is just a LIE. If a movie of the double agent black spy was written well, Hollywood would buy it...I'd watch it.

I also think it's funny going on and on about Lafayette. I would bet most people don't even know who HE is.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:57 pm

Monker wrote:
You said this was a panel of "leading historians". A simple Google search shows that David Barton is a former pastor who took up history. He is NOT a 'leading historian", but an amateur..


Not to mention proven plagiarist. Of course, to KC and FF, that is a badge of distinction. It's similar to Conservatives who said, "I didn't like Nixon until AFTER Watergate." If W. Cleon Skousen were still alive, Beck would no doubt have his kooky Mormon ass on the panel as a "leading historian" as well.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Aug 28, 2014 1:01 pm

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Interesting read...

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2 ... bout-taxes

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Burger King and the Whopper About Taxes

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Jacob Levy, an American professor living in Montreal, made a point on Twitter yesterday that I wish more journalists would take to heart: If you're writing about inversions, and you don't prominently mention global taxation in the first few paragraphs, then your article is not serious and anyone with even a smidgen of actual interest in the issue should stop reading.....


Yeh, yeh, US Corporations are soo overly taxed that GE paid ZERO in taxes. Boo-hoo. :roll: Take into account credits and loopholes, and the US corp tax rate is nowhere near the highest. The whole thing is a shell game. US Companies will engage in off-shoring no matter what.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

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K.C.Journey Fan wrote:All you proved is you can't read. where did I ever say Fannie was the sole cause of the meltdown? I said it went all the way back to Carter.

You said, quote: "Bush warned no less then 21 times about the Freddie and Fannie bubble, but didn't get anything changed." To me, this sure sounds like Freddie and Fannie are the MAIN culprit in the mess. No mention of the supply side deregulatory mania which has engulfed DC since Reagan. No mention of the repeal of FDR firewalls between investment and commercial banking which was pushed by free market clowns (including Clinton). No mention of Bush's Ayn Rand worshiping Fed chair, Greenspan, who very very easily could have pricked the subprime bubble before it burst. Nope. Nothing. Cricket farts.

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:The rest of your post is about the same amount of BS.

Nice dodge. It's OK. I understand that you can't be bothered to divert perfectly good neurons from watching Ted Nugent put down a baby whitetail mafia execution style and then tenderize the meat backing up over its lifeless corpse with his camo golf cart. I'm sure that passes for Must See TV in the KC Journey (mobile) home.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

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K.C.Journey Fan wrote:Bush did warn Congress at least 21 times this was coming. Sorry if facts don't agree with your horse shit.


No, Bush wanted to rein in Freddie and Fannie. Whether that would have prevented the subprime apocalypse is very unlikely. Wall St. was already securitizing loans and spreading risk across the world. Bush could have made the case for more regulations. Of course, the biggest financial regulatory agency under his terms, the Fed Reserve, was run by Greenspan - a free market conservative ideologue who thought Wall Street could regulate themselves. Hey, ya reap what ya sow...
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Thu Aug 28, 2014 1:50 pm

K.C.Journey Fan wrote:And monker. ya,I'll take Hollywood Movies over studied historians any day. That would make you libs happy I'm sure. Again, very alynski. dismiss the source, never the points.

Monker DID tackle the source (or, at least one of them). His name is David Barton. He is a plagiarist and a known fraud. The only person dancing around the issues is YOU, scared little bitch.
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Re: President Barack Obama - Term 2 Thread

Postby Boomchild » Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:18 pm

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Yeh, yeh, US Corporations are soo overly taxed that GE paid ZERO in taxes.


Employees of GE were in the top 20 of contributors to B.O. Seems like they got a good deal for their money.

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