They're Eating The Dogs Presidential Thread

[The_Noble_Cause]

Lol. These are great.

[The_Noble_Cause]

How about you reread what you replied to. I said "dictate what type (of) people post in this forum". IE: I'm a Democrat, I'm not libertarian - with a small 'l' - not a party member, etc. You and KC BOTH do that. It is an example of "holier than thou" attitude in that you do not allow people to define themselves, you both desire to define the people who post here. You do it over, and over and over again.

Exposing you as the DNC-ass licking shill you are by using your own words ("Hillary had permission to use a private server!") is not "dictating" anything. Sorry. I welcome posters with varying political opinions. By all means, let's have some anarchists, LaRouche fanatics, and Marxists up in here to shake things up.

[S2M]

How about you reread what you replied to. I said "dictate what type (of) people post in this forum". IE: I'm a Democrat, I'm not libertarian - with a small 'l' - not a party member, etc. You and KC BOTH do that. It is an example of "holier than thou" attitude in that you do not allow people to define themselves, you both desire to define the people who post here. You do it over, and over and over again.

Exposing you as the DNC-ass licking shill you are by using your own words ("Hillary had permission to use a private server!") is not "dictating" anything. Sorry. I welcome posters with varying political opinions. By all means, let's have some anarchists, LaRouche fanatics, and Marxists up in here to shake things up.

FFS, if Lee Harvey Oswald were still around we could have a Marxist-Leninist's opinion as well.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Second, bringing up Franken at all is a "distraction" in a thread dedicated to Donald Trump.

You didn't create this thread. FF did. As with the old Obama thread, it's pretty much a place to talk ANYTHING politics. The only person haughtily trying to dictate conversation around here is YOU.

[The_Noble_Cause]

But, when they start throwing out labels and try to define who I am - THAT is wrong.

LMAO. So labels are bad, eh? Can you be any bigger of a hypocritical shitbag? Again, your words speak for themselves....

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I consistently label you Trump Zombies because you brainlessly follow your fuhrer.

What is left here is a bunch of Trump zombies.

But, of course facts do not matter to the Trump zombies in this forum.

And, this is why you Trump zombies should be worried about stupid shit like Charlottesville.

That is because you followed your leader's Tweets, like a bunch of mindless zombies.

The only ones who don't trust him are t-virus infected Trump zombies, like you.

u all are too busy being Trump zombies and discussing Clinton as a distraction from is really going on in the world.

Yes, I call you Trump supporters zombies because you mindlessly repeat things like I blame Putin for Clinton losing and don't accept that she lost.

Trump could very easily make any excuse to start a war with North Korea, and you and KC and the rest of his zombies would be all for it.

You are a bunch of fucking dumb, t-Virus infected, Trump zombies. Fucking STUPID.

[S2M]

Weinstein
Franken
Charlie Rose
Menendez
Conyers
Oliver Stone
Dreyfus
Glen Thrush

Shit, it's only Tuesday...

With the Bungles history, I fully expect Burfict to be outed and accused this week!

[Boomchild]

If they get to the Music Industry, almost all of them will be in trouble. You can bet they won't. There's no Republican Seats up for grab there.

Just wait till Kid Rock officially throws his hat in the ring.

[Monker]

Moores Council has the right to what ever they have.

Sure, if charges are filed and it is going to go to trial...which may never happen. Until that time, they do not have to "turn over" anything. And, even then they do not simply "turn it over" to the opposition lawyer, but submit it as evidence so BOTH sides have access to it.

Allred may be many things, but she is not a fool like you.

It's a case of what are they hiding.

No it isn't. It is a case of an attorney doing what is best for her client and not allowing the opposition to walk all over them.

Again, she doesn't have to win, just keep this in the news until after the election.

Yeah, in the deranged minds of alt-right conspiracy fantasy believers who simply make shit up.

[Monker]

Monker wrote:
If anything you are acting like you are unable to talk about Trump in a Trump forum.


Umm, this is a Trump THREAD. Not a forum. The Obama thread was a political free-for-all. Discussion was not limited exclusively to Obama. You are making up your own rules and trying to play traffic cop here.

If you actually kept things in context for once you would see that I am replying to Boom saying I was deflecting a topic being discussed...so in essence he is making up rules on how I should post and I am replying saying he doing the EXACT SAME THING but on a higher level. So, of pme pf is "making up rules" then we both are.

[The_Noble_Cause]

If you actually kept things in context for once you would see that I am replying to Boom saying I was deflecting a topic being discussed...so in essence he is making up rules on how I should post and I am replying saying he doing the EXACT SAME THING but on a higher level. So, of pme pf is "making up rules" then we both are.

Bullshit. Changing the subject when replying to a specific post (which is what Boomchild was referring to) is completely different from saying X can be discussed but Y cannot - which is what you do all the time. You are trying to lay down ground rules on a website where you have no power. In fact, the webmaster has accurately called you a tool multiple times.

[Monker]

Monker wrote:
But, when they start throwing out labels and try to define who I am - THAT is wrong.


LMAO. So labels are bad, eh? Can you be any bigger of a hypocritical shitbag? Again, your words speak for themselves....

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Monker wrote:
I consistently label you Trump Zombies because you brainlessly follow your fuhrer.


Monker wrote:
What is left here is a bunch of Trump zombies.


Monker wrote:
But, of course facts do not matter to the Trump zombies in this forum.


Monker wrote:
And, this is why you Trump zombies should be worried about stupid shit like Charlottesville.


Monker wrote:
That is because you followed your leader's Tweets, like a bunch of mindless zombies.


Monker wrote:
The only ones who don't trust him are t-virus infected Trump zombies, like you.


Monker wrote:
u all are too busy being Trump zombies and discussing Clinton as a distraction from is really going on in the world.


Monker wrote:
Yes, I call you Trump supporters zombies because you mindlessly repeat things like I blame Putin for Clinton losing and don't accept that she lost.


Monker wrote:
Trump could very easily make any excuse to start a war with North Korea, and you and KC and the rest of his zombies would be all for it.


Monker wrote:
You are a bunch of fucking dumb, t-Virus infected, Trump zombies. Fucking STUPID.

LOL...I guess you can't tell the difference between a political party label and Trumpian insult label. Too funny!

But, it doesn't matter. You just further proved my point. Boom did not come out against any of us, if you want to include me - that's fine. He is still a hypocrite.

[The_Noble_Cause]

LOL...I guess you can't tell the difference between a political party label and Trumpian insult label. Too funny!

Back to childish word games again.You don't like being called a partisan Democrat (which you have proven through your actions), yet you are more than content to broad brush everyone here as "Trump zombies." Ultimately, labeling is generalizing. And you are by far the worst offender here.

[Monker]

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The $145million has already been debunked. Almost ALL of it was donated prior to Clinton even being SOS, or the donars even working for Rostodad, or whatever. So, there is NOTHING THERE. The $500,000 speaking fee...so what? The only thing new is the informant guy...but all I have read so far is him ragging on Russia corruption. He really hasn't proved anything yet, other than the Russian government is corrupt...like we didn't already know that.

Besides, it seems for every Republican caught in a sex scandle, six or more liberals are getting outted. Hey Monker, you catching the Charlie Rose show today? I love his defense," I didn't know my advances were unwanted at the time".

I really do not care. Throw him in jail...makes no difference to me, I'm not a Democrat.

I commented on Franken because he seems to be trying to do the right thing. I think that should be commended - nobody else has done that.

Sad thing is, he could be right, but no one wants to admit that. After all, women are so weak, right? They can't even slap a face, scream, or simply get up and walk out. right? Most guys seem to get out of the mood with a good fist in the face. It's the ones that don't that should be exposed.Of course calling the police is out of the question.

Like I said, there are probably a lot of men who have committeed sexual assault and don't even know it. Considering what you posted above, you are probably one of them.

[Monker]

Monker wrote:
LOL...I guess you can't tell the difference between a political party label and Trumpian insult label. Too funny!


Back to childish word games again.

Yeah, isn't it childish to call people things like "Crooked Hillary", or "Little Marco", or "Al Frankestein". But, it seems to be the type of childish behavior Trump Zombies like you understand and relate to.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Yeah, isn't it childish to call people things like "Crooked Hillary", or "Little Marco", or "Al Frankestein". But, it seems to be the type of childish behavior Trump Zombies like you understand and relate to.

Umm, Trump voters in this thread, like myself, are not the ones whining about the use of labels -YOU ARE. You can't even follow your own arguments anymore. Yes, Trump does effectively and humorously smear his political opponents. Nice deflection. What does that have to do with you complaining about being called a Democrat/Liberal/Hillaryite while engaging in similar name-calling tactics?

If you don't like being labeled, don't do it to others.
And if you're going to do it, don't bitch about it.
Hypocrite!

[Monker]

Monker wrote:
If you actually kept things in context for once you would see that I am replying to Boom saying I was deflecting a topic being discussed...so in essence he is making up rules on how I should post and I am replying saying he doing the EXACT SAME THING but on a higher level. So, of pme pf is "making up rules" then we both are.


Bullshit. Changing the subject when replying to a specific post (which is what Boomchild was referring to) is completely different from saying X can be discussed but Y cannot - which is what you do all the time.

You are lying again. I did NOT say X "can not" be discussed.

I said he is a hypocrite for complaining about what he perceives as 'deflecting" when he deflects from the topic subject all the time...it IS exactly the same thing whether you accept that fact or not. The fact is, I am staying ON TOPIC when I critique Trump. If you want a generic "politics" thread, then start one...but this one is supposedly about the Donald Judas Trump presidency. It is not MY fault that he is a failure by almost all ways of measurement.

You are trying to lay down ground rules on a website where you have no power. In fact, the webmaster has accurately called you a tool multiple times.

I am NOT trying to make up rules. I have not done that AT ALL.

You are getting into territory you know NOTHING about. Andrew and I have not had ANY issues in years and years...The only time was way back when Deano was here. I would LOVE for you to quote the last time he critiqued me in any way - and include the date. I would be curious to see it. If I had to guess, it would be 2011 or so...six years ago - at least.

[The_Noble_Cause]

You are lying again. I did NOT say X "can not" be discussed.

And you are lying saying that I am lying. And you will probably follow this post up with even more lies. Because as we have established here, all you do is lie.
Case in point: "Hillary had permission to use a private server!"

You have repeatedly tried to instruct posters on what is acceptable subject matter in this thread. To that I say - go fuck yourself.

If you want a generic "politics" thread, then start one...but this one is supposedly about the Donald Judas Trump presidency. It is not MY fault that he is a failure by almost all ways of measurement.

How come you didn't make such demands in the Obama thread?

I am NOT trying to make up rules. I have not done that AT ALL.

Trying to define the parameters of a thread you didn't start on a website you don't run is doing EXACTLY that. People can post whatever the hell they want.

You are getting into territory you know NOTHING about. Andrew and I have not had ANY issues in years and years...The only time was way back when Deano was here. I would LOVE for you to quote the last time he critiqued me in any way - and include the date. I would be curious to see it. If I had to guess, it would be 2011 or so...six years ago - at least.

And in six years, Andrew has come to change his views on you being a complete dickhead? I don't think so. In fact, I know so.

[verslibre]

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/exclusive-u-agency-vote-repeal-net-neutrality-rules-161842682--finance.html

[Monker]

You are lying again. I did NOT say X "can not" be discussed.

And you are lying saying that I am lying.

Prove to me that you are not a liar. Find the post and quote where I said "X can not be discussed in this thread". In fact, find a post where I have said that in ANY thread on this forum. I do not dictate how Andrew runs his forum

You have repeatedly tried to instruct posters on what is acceptable subject matter in this thread. To that I say - go fuck yourself.

Nope. I am simply pointing out that you all do not post about Trump in a Trump thread. I think it is fucking hilarious. The guy is a such a complete disaster that even his zombies can't hold conversation about him because they are so ashamed of him. Too funny!

If you want a generic "politics" thread, then start one...but this one is supposedly about the Donald Judas Trump presidency. It is not MY fault that he is a failure by almost all ways of measurement.

How come you didn't make such demands in the Obama thread?

Nobody accused me of deflection in the Obama thread. If they had I would have said similar things. And, it's not a demand...you took that out of context.

I am NOT trying to make up rules. I have not done that AT ALL.

Trying to define the parameters of a thread you didn't start on a website you don't run is doing EXACTLY that. People can post whatever the hell they want.

Dude, a thread is a topic of conversation. That infers the posts in the thread will be about the topic. That is just plain common sense. When a person does not want to talk about the topic, they go on and on about something else...which Boom describes as deflection. Deflection is what you guys do here, by HIS definition...a definition YOU agreed to.

Now, if you all want to deflect away from the thread topic. That is your choice. It is MY choice to point out the hypocrisy if I choose to. Nobody is making demands or making up rules. That is all in your imagination.

You are getting into territory you know NOTHING about. Andrew and I have not had ANY issues in years and years...The only time was way back when Deano was here. I would LOVE for you to quote the last time he critiqued me in any way - and include the date. I would be curious to see it. If I had to guess, it would be 2011 or so...six years ago - at least.

And in six years, Andrew has come to change his views on you being a complete dickhead? I don't think so. In fact, I know so.

Why are you acting like a Toph? Six years ago Andrew and I exchanged a couple Emails and we haven't had any issues with each other since. If he ever wants me to leave, all he has to do is tell me, privately or publicly - it's up to him. I will leave without questioning his authoritah. That's the way it is.

[Monker]

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/exclusive-u-agency-vote-repeal-net-neutrality-rules-161842682--finance.html

The sad thing is that most people don't even know what "net neutrality" is and how it affects their internet connection and experience. This is just one more bad thing that Trump is doing.

[tj]

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/exclusive-u-agency-vote-repeal-net-neutrality-rules-161842682--finance.html

The sad thing is that most people don't even know what "net neutrality" is and how it affects their internet connection and experience. This is just one more bad thing that Trump is doing.

A WSJ opinion piece by the chairman offers his thoughts in more detail. I won't be surprised to see it changed back when a Democrat is in power either as chairman of the FCC or has the white house and congress again.

[Monker]

Monker said "The $145million has already been debunked. Almost ALL of it was donated prior to Clinton even being SOS, or the donars even working for Rostodad, or whatever. So, there is NOTHING THERE. The $500,000 speaking fee...so what? The only thing new is the informant guy...but all I have read so far is him ragging on Russia corruption. He really hasn't proved anything yet, other than the Russian government is corrupt...like we didn't already know that."

1. The money went through a Canadian Bank into the Canadian branch of the Clinton Foundation. Makes it much harder to trace in America.
2.No, Clinton was not SOS. She was a Senator.
3.Your reading Media cover up bullshit as usual and very soon your going to look like an ass, as you should. Campbell is being protected as he should right now. The Clintons, Obama, Holder, Mueller, and even the CIA have much to worry about. It's coming out. Just because you want to post bullshit about it doesn't stop the truth.

What you are suggesting makes absolutely NO SENSE.

Explain how SENATOR Clinton had influence over this committee, the NRC, and the Utah energy departmen...all of which advanced their assessment...and President Obama signed off on it.

And, I have huge doubts that the people making these donations did so as you describe...because, again, they were not even working for the Rostadad company when they made the donation. Are you suggesting they were from the future and went back in time and they knew where they would be working? Did they have some type of crystal ball?

This accusation is laughable.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Prove to me that you are not a liar. Find the post and quote where I said "X can not be discussed in this thread". In fact, find a post where I have said that in ANY thread on this forum. I do not dictate how Andrew runs his forum.

No problem. Here are a bunch of quotes where you attempt to dictate what can and cannot be posted here. This is just a few of many.

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Fine, post it to the correct forum. That has NOTHING to do with Donald Jackass Trump and his presidency.

If you want to engage me in the off-topic bullshit, then it should be posted to the correct forum where it is just bullshit and not off topic.

If you TRULY wanted to discuss these things, you would do it in the other thread - where it is on topic and not a distraction. dsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

[The_Noble_Cause]

Nope. I am simply pointing out that you all do not post about Trump in a Trump thread. I think it is fucking hilarious. The guy is a such a complete disaster that even his zombies can't hold conversation about him because they are so ashamed of him. Too funny!

And just how much of the Obama thread was comprised of Obama policy talk? Very little. So what's your point?

Nobody accused me of deflection in the Obama thread. If they had I would have said similar things. And, it's not a demand...you took that out of context.

Oh please. Your MO of changing the subject when caught in a lie has been going on forever in all sorts of threads. You are just a rotten dishonest bastard.

Dude, a thread is a topic of conversation. That infers the posts in the thread will be about the topic. That is just plain common sense.

Everybody in here is talking about Trump or politics. Politics is not off-topic at all. If this thread was used to review home appliances or bundt cake recipes, maybe you'd have a point.

When a person does not want to talk about the topic, they go on and on about something else...which Boom describes as deflection. Deflection is what you guys do here, by HIS definition...a definition YOU agreed to.

You are generalizing. If somebody responds to a specific post by changing the subject, THAT is deflection. However, it is not deflection to use this thread to say something about Schumer or Paul Ryan being an asshole. This a political thread.

Now, if you all want to deflect away from the thread topic. That is your choice. It is MY choice to point out the hypocrisy if I choose to. Nobody is making demands or making up rules. That is all in your imagination.

Telling people to use separate threads to post content you don't approve of is making up rules.

Why are you acting like a Toph? Six years ago Andrew and I exchanged a couple Emails and we haven't had any issues with each other since. If he ever wants me to leave, all he has to do is tell me, privately or publicly - it's up to him. I will leave without questioning his authoritah. That's the way it is.

I think he would like all of us to leave and shut these forums down tbh. That is separate from him thinking you are a contender for a lifetime MR dickhead award.

[Monker]

Monker wrote:
Prove to me that you are not a liar. Find the post and quote where I said "X can not be discussed in this thread". In fact, find a post where I have said that in ANY thread on this forum. I do not dictate how Andrew runs his forum.


No problem. Here are a bunch of quotes where you attempt to dictate what can and cannot be posted here. This is just a few of many.

That's just a lie. You gave examples where people were demanding I reply to this and that and I said that I had no problem talking about it...just post it to the correct thread. That is not me setting up some sort of rule where people can't post about whatever subject...that is saying I don't have to reply if I don't want to.

There are no examples of me making up rules...I don't do that.

And just how much of the Obama thread was comprised of Obama policy talk? Very little. So what's your point?

What is your point? I said I did not point this out because nobody was claiming I was deflecting this and that.

Monker wrote:
Nobody accused me of deflection in the Obama thread. If they had I would have said similar things. And, it's not a demand...you took that out of context.

Oh please. Your MO of changing the subject when caught in a lie has been going on forever in all sorts of threads. You are just a rotten dishonest bastard.

Now you are just making stuff up.

Monker wrote:
Dude, a thread is a topic of conversation. That infers the posts in the thread will be about the topic. That is just plain common sense.


Everybody in here is talking about Trump or politics.

Not true...Trump is barely discussed here because he is an utter failure as a president. So, to distract from that, you follow HIS lead and whine about Clinton and Obama.

I mean, come on, if there was a real interest in talking about Trump you all would be debating the tax proposal, but you can't do that because you know it is all beneficial to the 1%, and paints Trump as a liar due to his campaign promises that he would ensure - no matter what - that it would not benefit him. Sure, tax breaks for own jets and golf courses do not benefit Donald Trump. And, to make up for it, they close down popular tax breaks for middle income people. It's ridiculous...and I am the only person who has brought it up here.

Politics is not off-topic at all.

The topic is the Presidency of Donald Trump...not the Presidency of Obama or Bill Clinton. You all go there to distract from the complete and utter failure of the worst President in the history of this country. THAT is what is truly going on in this thread.

Monker wrote:
When a person does not want to talk about the topic, they go on and on about something else...which Boom describes as deflection. Deflection is what you guys do here, by HIS definition...a definition YOU agreed to.


You are generalizing. If somebody responds to a specific post by changing the subject, THAT is deflection.

And, if somebody does the same to a topic, that is also deflection - BY YOUR OWN DEFINITION.

However, it is not deflection to use this thread to say something about Schumer or Paul Ryan being an asshole. This a political thread.

That is not what is going on here...there is NO discussion about Paul Ryan or Schumer here. People are going all the way bacdk to 1992, or at least 2015, to distract from talking about 2017. That is NOT the Presidency of Donald Trump.

Monker wrote:
Now, if you all want to deflect away from the thread topic. That is your choice. It is MY choice to point out the hypocrisy if I choose to. Nobody is making demands or making up rules. That is all in your imagination.

Telling people to use separate threads to post content you don't approve of is making up rules.

That is not even what I said. I never said I didn't "approve" of something. I said if you want me to reply, post it in the proper thread. That is not a "forum rule", that is me making a decision to not talk about certain things if I do not want to. KC, nor you, are in a position to demand that I reply to certain posts.

Monker wrote:
Why are you acting like a Toph? Six years ago Andrew and I exchanged a couple Emails and we haven't had any issues with each other since. If he ever wants me to leave, all he has to do is tell me, privately or publicly - it's up to him. I will leave without questioning his authoritah. That's the way it is.


I think he would like all of us to leave and shut these forums down tbh. That is separate from him thinking you are a contender for a lifetime MR dickhead award.

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Whatever. If Andrew has any issues with me, he can tell me. He doesn't need you to do it for him...and I doubt he appreciates it.

And, I am done with this conversation...you are simply lying over and over again...not worthy of my time.

[Monker]

You don't read much, do you. It's also been explained in detail in several Hannity posts I made last week by John Soloman and Sara Carter, along with Campbells lawyer. But I guess for you, over 10,000 dociments isn't enough. Besides, why do you care? You're not a Democrat so if Obama, Clinton, Holder, Mueller, ect go down, what do you care?

I don't believe anything Hannity has to say. Do you own a Kuerig?

10,000 documents are not enough when you will need a TARDIS to make something be true.

I don't care if they get thrown in jail. I care that this entire thing is made up conspiracy theory and a lie....and now my tax money is being spent pursuing it.

[Monker]

You don't read much, do you. It's also been explained in detail in several Hannity posts I made last week by John Soloman and Sara Carter, along with Campbells lawyer. But I guess for you, over 10,000 dociments isn't enough. Besides, why do you care? You're not a Democrat so if Obama, Clinton, Holder, Mueller, ect go down, what do you care?

I don't believe anything Hannity has to say. Do you own a Kuerig?

10,000 documents are not enough when you will need a TARDIS to make something be true.

I don't care if they get thrown in jail. I care that this entire thing is made up conspiracy theory and a lie....and now my tax money is being spent pursuing it.

So now you know how Trump feels. Only difference is, this stuff on Clinton isn't something she paid to have made up. It's for real. It doesn't matter if your that stupid, it won't make it any less real, and it's about to unload.

What are you talking about? I don't feel how Trump feels. My son and son-in-law are not being questioned by the FBI. I do not have former advisers and such being indicted and charged with federal crimes. I did not have an adviser plead guilty and then turn on me and become an informant for months to gather evidence against me. Whether you believe it or not, Trump is in a world of shit.

As for Clinton, there is simply nothing there. You have to prove a large and complicated conspiracy theory to even get to the point to question if she did anything illegal. The accusations are so illogical that you have stretch your imagination to even consider a crime. It's a bunch of alt-right conspiracy theory bullshit and nothing will come out of it. Now you are saying she was a member of congress and somehow she could influence 10 federal agencies, the NRC, and the state of Utah. To believe that you have to be a nut like Hannity. Do you own a Kuerig?

[verslibre]

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/exclusive-u-agency-vote-repeal-net-neutrality-rules-161842682--finance.html

The sad thing is that most people don't even know what "net neutrality" is and how it affects their internet connection and experience. This is just one more bad thing that Trump is doing.

More stupid BS by an egotist to embolden corporations and undo everything laid down by the previous administration, "just because."

[Boomchild]

and she doesn't have it. Don does.

This is pretty good.

[The_Noble_Cause]

I care that this entire thing is made up conspiracy theory and a lie....and now my tax money is being spent pursuing it.

And yet here you are echoing the Russians hacked the election fable - the biggest lie since Iraqi WMDs.