Denver Show

by **jrnyman28** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:07 am

I reported earlier that there would not be a CD giveaway for the Denver show. There WAS a CD giveaway after all. It appears there was an agreement made to give the CDs out with a sticker stating it was courtesy of Mullens High School, which this concert was a benefit for.

People And Places! WOW, but I wish I could hear the whole thing. The first set is certainly a test of will for the casual fans. They were up to the challenge. There was a lot of walking around throughout the entire show, not just the first set. By the time Nickle and Dime was played you could see the first set taking it's toll a little. But it was AWESOME to hear those songs live!

Deen sounded great on Patiently. It did not seem 'bad' to have him sing two songs. And I noticed those were the only two songs in the first set that Steve was not onstage for...made sense that he would walk out on stage for Feeling That Way/Anytime because that is how Perry used to make his entrance.

Ending the first set just after getting everyone on their feet with Anyway You Want it worked well. It seemed to ensure people awaiting the 2nd set.

The 2nd set included Faith In The Heartland, Every Generation and Out Of Harm's Way. OOHW should be played right after the SSB. All "Generations" tunes were intro'd. That was great, it let the audience know what to expect. All three were receicved well.

Since this was a benefit for the High School there were a LOT of "kids" at the show. But what impressed me is how much dancing and singing along they were doing. They were not just "dragged" to the show by their parents. Wheel In The Sky was probably the BIGGEST reaction of the night.

Neal needs to drop Voodoo Chile/Santana solo. Voodoo Chile was cool but the outro was too long and then they went right into a Santana instrumental. They lost the crowd here. But they got them right back with the next song. My wife did make the comment that his was like the Neal Schon Show. That's true.

They played Higher Place.

The Encore was Ask The Lonely and LTS.

I would have liked more "Generations" songs but they did a great job with what they gave us. The intro's, the mentions of the CD all worked.

And to address earlier comments about Steve Augeri's voice live. He was PHENOMINAL!!! The ONLY song he struggled with was Escape. And he has always had a problem with a couple of those notes. If they were to drop Escape then Steve's performance would have been flawless!

"AJ, I just have five words for ya", Everything a Journey show should be. "Well, that's actually six words."

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My personal thoughts are that we will never hear those pre-Perry songs again. But that will be ok with me (now that I have seen them) as long as the band add more Arrival, Red 13 and Generations tunes to the setlists in the future. From here on out I hope the band start to focus more and more on the Augeri-era of the band along with their "hits".

This tour has been seen by some as a 'farewell' concert. But after watching the guys last night, and watching the fans, I think this is the beginning. Journey will never be as big as they once were. But they are poised to acheive anything they want. With a little focus there is nothing they cannot do from here. They truly do have 3 generations of fans. They have connected. They have gotten their new music out there. What comes next for Journey is up to them.

Great show!!

by **The_Noble_Cause** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:24 am

Nice review, Dave.

Vodoo Child does need to be dropped. It's inclusion is only justified when Neal is under time restraints and only has time to be play the dirty dozen (like during Main Event). He has oodles of material to play and stretch-out on during this tour, along with the old jam-band stuff, he also has Generations material, he certainly does not need Vodoo Child.

Glad to hear Augeri sounded good. As for struggling on Escape, he's always struggled on that one. I honestly don't know why they even give him that one to sing, but, eh, I digress.

How many songs did Deen do? Just two?

Thanks again.

by **jrnyman28** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:30 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:How many songs did Deen do? Just two?

Yep, just "Patiently" and "Where Were You".

by **The_Noble_Cause** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:42 am

I think Deen should do more than that.
Gotta spread the talent around.
Both are great singers.
They should utilize that.

by **yak** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:09 am

jrnyman28 wrote:My personal thoughts are that we will never hear those pre-Perry songs again. But that will be ok with me (now that I have seen them) as long as the band add more Arrival, Red 13 and Generations tunes to the setlists in the future. From here on out I hope the band start to focus more and more on the Augeri-era of the band along with their "hits".

This tour has been seen by some as a 'farewell' concert. But after watching the guys last night, and watching the fans, I think this is the beginning. Journey will never be as big as they once were. But they are poised to acheive anything they want. With a little focus there is nothing they cannot do from here. They truly do have 3 generations of fans. They have connected. They have gotten their new music out there. What comes next for Journey is up to them.

Great show!!

Thanks Dave! Sounds like it was a great concert experience! Why was the benefit for the high school? How awesome the kids loved the show. Now they need to hear some more of the new stuff. :wink:

Here's hoping they continue to give away CDs as promised. And also start playing some more Generations tunes.

by **jrnyman28** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:16 am

yak wrote:Why was the benefit for the high school?

The high school lost it's roof in 2003 during a bad snow storm. So every year they have a benefit concert. They approached Jimmy Buffet this year but his fee was way too high.

by **jrnyman28** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:19 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:I think Deen should do more than that.
Gotta spread the talent around.
Both are great singers.
They should utilize that.

I disagree. It is nice to show him off a little, but this way it is still obvious who the lead singer is in the band. Jon and Deen handle most of the vocals in the first set. Then there is still One song by Jon, One by Ross and One by Neal in the 2nd set. But it is still obvious that Steve is the lead.

by **The_Noble_Cause** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:23 am

jrnyman28 wrote:I disagree. It is nice to show him off a little, but this way it is still obvious who the lead singer is in the band.

Why does that need to be obvious?
Steve should have more than Deen, but that doesn't mean Deen should only be allocated a paltry two songs. As far as I'm concerned two great singers = twice the talent. Have 'em both sing. Knock the audiences socks off.
At the end of the day, isn't that what seeing a concert is all about?

by **yak** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:33 am

jrnyman28 wrote:The high school lost it's roof in 2003 during a bad snow storm. So every year they have a benefit concert. They approached Jimmy Buffet this year but his fee was way too high.

Nice that Journey came through for them. Jimmy Buffet wanted lots of money, huh? Interesting. And tacky when somebody needs your help.

jrnyman28 wrote: Journey will never be as big as they once were. But they are poised to acheive anything they want. With a little focus there is nothing they cannot do from here. They truly do have 3 generations of fans. They have connected. They have gotten their new music out there. What comes next for Journey is up to them.

NEAL!!! Are you listening?? Are you reading this??

by **jrnyman28** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:37 am

Well, Steve did a phenominal job so I don't see the 'need' to have Deen singing more songs. I like hearing Deen sing (since this was the first time for me), but I say keep it to the minimum. Although I would love to hear Mother, Father still.

by **NealIsGod** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:09 am

Dave, I am glad to hear that you liked the show, and that you got a copy of the CD. I guess we will have to live with hearing only three songs off of Generations.

You have me pumped for my next Journey show, one month from now.

by **jrnyman28** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:19 am

NealIsGod wrote:You have me pumped for my next Journey show, one month from now.

Good, you should be. This is amazing for the die-hards, and there is plenty for the casuals as well.

by **NealIsGod** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:42 am

jrnyman28 wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:You have me pumped for my next Journey show, one month from now.

Good, you should be. This is amazing for the die-hards, and there is plenty for the casuals as well.

I will probably only be about 20 yards from the band, since the place I am seeing them is not that big. How close were you, Dave?

by **jrnyman28** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:53 am

I was quite a ways back, but the size and shape of the venue left very few "bad seats". I would have loved to be closer, to show my appreciation for the first set, but the people up there did a great job. Most of the front stayed on it's feet for all of the first set. I was on my feet the whole show!

by **Rockindeano** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:49 pm

About the two singers..

Deen has 2 songs. I am starting to think that there will be a second leg perhaps...Give the CD out, get it into some ears and heads...Follow up with second leg, and this time, Deen sings what will hopefully be a radio song, "A Better Life." I mean, that's the song he should sing.

Dave...

size of the venue, capacity/attendence/%filled??

Good crowd huh?

See, I told you, after you see them, you ask, "what other singer?"

This guy is better.

by **Red13JoePa** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 1:34 am

Absolutely ROCK and J28. The fact that Deeno can sing is good b/c it gives Augie a blow. But the fact that now Deen has 2 songs of HIS OWN to sing lead on is even better. Do those, not something Perry sang before b/c now it's Augeri's time to play the Perry role. Don't have Ross do Walk's Like A Lady either, have him do Gone Crazy. Now that Neal's got a vocal on JRNY album he should deep 6 voodoo chile in favor of it.
I really have mixed feelings about anybody but AUgie doing the perry parts, and now there should be no reason for that to happen with the Generations material.

by **NoMoreTails** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 4:37 am

jrnyman28 wrote:Well, Steve did a phenominal job so I don't see the 'need' to have Deen singing more songs. I like hearing Deen sing (since this was the first time for me), but I say keep it to the minimum. Although I would love to hear Mother, Father still.

Agree with you on no need to have Deen singing more, although he is a fine singer. I was able to hear Mother, Father the last couple of tours, would like to have heard Steve sing it but Dean did a great job, better than his version of Patiently this year I thought.
At the end of Mother, Father Steve came out to sing--unbelievable well-- the high part at the end.
His singing at the shows I've been to the last three tours has been nearly perfect. Especially cool sharing some of the high parts with Deen even when he is clearly having no trouble doing them himself.

by **jrnyman28** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 6:40 am

Red13JoePa wrote:Absolutely ROCK and J28. The fact that Deeno can sing is good b/c it gives Augie a blow. But the fact that now Deen has 2 songs of HIS OWN to sing lead on is even better. Do those, not something Perry sang before b/c now it's Augeri's time to play the Perry role. Don't have Ross do Walk's Like A Lady either, have him do Gone Crazy. Now that Neal's got a vocal on JRNY album he should deep 6 voodoo chile in favor of it.
I really have mixed feelings about anybody but AUgie doing the perry parts, and now there should be no reason for that to happen with the Generations material.

Like I said, my hope or feeling is for Journey to retire the pre-Perry material after this tour. And from here on out, start retiring some of the Perry material in favor of more Augeri material. He only sang 4 songs in concert that he recorded. A couple of the non-hits from the Perry era (actually, I would like it more if some of the hits were taken out and they left the rarer material in. But we know that will never happen) removed, a couple more Arrival and Generations songs put in. And I would love if they would polish up the RED13 material for the concerts again.

So, they can drop the 50-60 minute first set, drop Voodoo Chile/Gypsy Queen (another 15 minutes), add 1 song from Arrival RED13 and Generations. You are still at an average set length of 2-2 1/2 hours.

by **cubby69** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:54 am

Well its been two days since the show and I finally have a moment to talk about it.

Most of what I would have said Dave has covered, but let me just say, I've seen Journey many times over the past 24 years ('81, '83, '86, '98, '99, '01, '02 and '04) and I can say without a doubt, that was the best Journey concert I have ever experienced. They were tight, sounded great, rocked hard, everything fell into place.

Hearing Kohutek, Of A Lifetime, I'm Gonna Leave You, Nickel & Dime and Mystery Mountain for the first time live after all these years of being a fan was truly a dream come true. I almost fainted when the first notes of 'Of A Lifetime' were played, I knew it was coming but to actually hear it was almost to much. This band has never sounded so great, they put on a hell of a 'rock' show!!! I thought the response to the new songs went over pretty well, and I was very happy to see the mostly positive response to the pre-Perry material as well.

Out Of Harms Way, especially sounded FUCKING excellent, I was blown away by that one. FITH kicked ass and even Every Generations, not one of my favorites, sounded great and still rocked the house.

Because of all these rare gems, I was able to actually enjoy the 'dirty dozen' for what they are, most of them are still great Journey rock songs. Open Arms to me was the only low point of the concert, of course the crowd went crazy, but I just can't make myself like that song and if I never hear it again, in concert or otherwise, will be to soon.

It gave me hope to want to see this band in concert in the future. Because, I have to be honest after seeing them on the Main Event Tour and that horrible greatest hits setlist, I was ready to stop wasting my money on Journey concerts. But now that they decided to start playing more Augeri and throw us a rare gem...well...

by **jrnyman28** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 1:16 pm

Rock'ndeano wrote:Dave...

size of the venue, capacity/attendence/%filled??

Good crowd huh?

I have read that the venue holds 5,000 and was sold out. I am trying to get actual numbers. I did see one block of seats that were never filled. So 'sold' and 'showed' are two different numbers. I also noticed that, in addition to the seating chart, there were atleast two additional tents on the sides for either VIP or School supporters to watch the show from. So this may add to the number. But the crowd was amazing!! 18 year olds dancing in the aisles and singing the words to songs that were recorded before they were born!!

Rock'ndeano wrote:See, I told you, after you see them, you ask, "what other singer?"

This guy is better.

This is the fourth time I have seen them with Augeri. I will NOT say better than Perry...he is different. But he was amazing all his own! I have basically watched Steve mature and grow with the band. He hit his stride on the "Under The Radar Tour". He OWNED that night...it was truly special. This night is only better because of the additional songs played. Seeing pre-Perry material live was a dream come true. And to include NEW material, which the audience enjoyed, was even better.

by **Abitaman** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 7:50 pm

Can't wait, Sep 24the hurry up and get here-ERIC

by **NealIsGod** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 11:20 pm

jrnyman28 wrote:Seeing pre-Perry material live was a dream come true.

Funny, that is the only part I am not looking forward to.

by **OpeningAct** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 11:31 pm

NealIsGod wrote:
jrnyman28 wrote:Seeing pre-Perry material live was a dream come true.

Funny, that is the only part I am not looking forward to.

I have to agree with NIG on this one. I'm not familiar with the music at all, though I'm sure it's great stuff. I AM looking forward to hearing the Generations music, as well as the great, but not neccesarily "hit" songs....

by **Eric** » Sat Aug 06, 2005 12:16 am

Setlist?

by **jrnyman28** » Sat Aug 06, 2005 2:03 am

People & Places intro
Kohoutek
Of a Liftime (Jon)
I'm Gonna Leave You (Jon)
Nickel & Dime
Mystery Mountain (Jon)
Patiently (Deen)
Where Were You (Deen)
Feeling That Way (Jon/Steve)
Anytime (Jon/Steve)
Any Way You Want It

-- Intermission --

DVD intro
Be Good to Yourself
Only the Young
Faith in the Heartland
Star Spangled Banner
Stone in Love
Higher Place
Wheel in the Sky
Voodoo Chile/Gypsy Queen (Neal)
Lights
Walks Like a Lady (Ross)
Every Generation (Jon)
Who's Crying Now
Jon solo
Open Arms
Escape
Out of Harms Way
Faithfully
Don't Stop Believin'
Separate Ways

Encore:
Ask the Lonely
Lovin' Touchin' Squeezin'

by **jrnyman28** » Sat Aug 06, 2005 2:05 am

NealIsGod wrote:
jrnyman28 wrote:Seeing pre-Perry material live was a dream come true.

Funny, that is the only part I am not looking forward to.

Well, you can still appreciate the musicianship of the band. There are really only 5 songs to worry about but they do take up about 30 minutes.

by **mnmsjrny** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 5:52 am

Well, I'm finally back home after a week on the road... not much to add to this other than to say Dave & Cubby, nice meeting you both. And to those wary about the pre-Perry material, I'll just pass along what my girlfriend said to me after the show -- "It was obvious they were having a great time playing just to play. It was my favorite part of the show!" -- this from someone who only knows the hits. (And admitted to me after 20+ years of friendship she owned "Escape". I've known this girl since we were 14 and NOW I find she liked Journey -- geez, coulda had a concert buddy in high school!)

by **Red13JoePa** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:33 pm

Shit, the kept The Place In your Heart out. J28 or Cubby tell us...

is Cain playing rythym guitar on Faith In The Heartland live?

by **cubby69** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:00 pm

Red13JoePa wrote:Shit, the kept The Place In your Heart out. J28 or Cubby tell us...

is Cain playing rythym guitar on Faith In The Heartland live?

Hey Joe, no they did not play Place In Your Heart and yes Cain is playing rythm guitar on FITH, it sounded fucking incredible!!

by **Rockindeano** » Wed Aug 10, 2005 2:11 pm

Well, out here in Los Angeles, KLOS IS playing TPIYH and FITH.....And they are the ONLY classic rock station and biggest. Perhaps the CD was released to media?

MR

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