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Postby NealIsGod » Sat Sep 10, 2005 12:26 am

Isn't it obvious what they are trying to do, TNC? Why even respond?
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Postby JourneyTroll » Sat Sep 10, 2005 12:39 am

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Steve Perry wasn't kicked out of Journey? :shock:
Wasn't he the lead singer of Journey before his injury? Then, Steve Augeri became the lead singer when Steve Perry got injured. Face it. Steve Perry was kicked out of the band and replaced with Steve Augeri.


Quit playing dumb.
Perry quit Journey in '86. He came back in 1996 on the condition that Sony promote another single from his solo record. He then quit again (just as Journey creator, Herbie Herbert, predicted all along).
A reconfiguration of Journey (minus Perry) was already underway at that time involving Chalfant and Rolie.
Perry's return just stalled the process.


This isn't Back Talk, and you aren't an expert on Journey's history. Journey quit Journey not just Perry. Herbie Herbert was bitter that he too got kicked out of Journey's business and has been bitter towards Perry ever since. Steve Perry was injured and not given enough time to recover. Sadly, Journey dumped Perry with the Perry-clone Augeri.

Quote from Deen: "Steve Augeri looks like Steve Perry with a perm."

The reconfiguration of Journey never happened, and you can't blame Perry for that. I'd rather see Perry in the band than Rolie and joke Chalfant anytime. Perry's return brought Journey a Grammy nomination with the beautiful song, "When You Love A Woman."

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Postby JourneyTroll » Sat Sep 10, 2005 12:43 am

NealIsGod wrote:Isn't it obvious what they are trying to do, TNC? Why even respond?


I'm discussing Journey...that's what I'm doing. I guess only people that agree with your opinion about Journey should be allowed to post here. :shock: You have your opinion on Journey, and I have a different opinion. Don't try to censor me here just like you did to me and others at Back Talk. I remember when you use to try to get people banned from there that disagreed with your opinion. That wasn't too long ago either NealISGod. :wink:

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Postby Red13JoePa » Sat Sep 10, 2005 1:02 am

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Postby jrnyman28 » Sat Sep 10, 2005 1:18 am

JourneyTroll wrote:Steve Perry wasn't kicked out of Journey? :shock:


No, he wasn't.


JourneyTroll wrote:Journey couldn't wait a mere six more months for Steve Perry to recover fully from his near death injuries.


It was NOT near death injuries. In fact, sometimes it is called an injury and sometimes it is called a disease. And there was NEVER any indication of HOW LONG it would take. That is the entire reason Journey wanted to move on without Perry...he was out 'indefinately'.

JourneyTroll wrote:Steve Augeri, who is one of the least charismatic singers in rock history.


Your opinion, but MANY people disagree!



And NiG, YES I had to respond...;)
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Postby jrnyman28 » Sat Sep 10, 2005 1:25 am

JourneyTroll wrote:you aren't an expert on Journey's history.


But he (and I) know a LOT!

JourneyTroll wrote:Quote from Deen: "Steve Augeri looks like Steve Perry with a perm."


That is NOT the quote. He said that people's reactions to Steve are like 'Oh my god, it's Steve Perry with a perm'.

JourneyTroll wrote:The reconfiguration of Journey never happened,


Yes it did. Ask Kevin Chalfant and Gregg Rolie if you don't want to believe 'us'. But Kevin has even spoken of recording some of the songs written during that time.

JourneyTroll wrote:and you can't blame Perry for that.


Yes you can, because Perry was coerced by empty promises from Sony, to rejoin Journey. Yes, Neal and Jon obviously accepted him back, so it is not ALL Perry's fault...but he can be held accountable for it.

JourneyTroll wrote: I'd rather see Perry in the band than Rolie and joke Chalfant anytime.


That's fine. You are welcome to your opinions. But I would LOVE to have Rolie back in Journey!

JourneyTroll wrote:Perry's return brought Journey a Grammy nomination with the beautiful song, "When You Love A Woman."

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It was not JUST Perry's return that did that. It still falls to all person's involved.
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Postby jrnyman28 » Sat Sep 10, 2005 1:27 am

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NealIsGod wrote:Isn't it obvious what they are trying to do, TNC? Why even respond?


I'm discussing Journey...that's what I'm doing. I guess only people that agree with your opinion about Journey should be allowed to post here. :shock: You have your opinion on Journey, and I have a different opinion. Don't try to censor me here just like you did to me and others at Back Talk. I remember when you use to try to get people banned from there that disagreed with your opinion. That wasn't too long ago either NealISGod. :wink:

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NiG never said you couldn't/shouldn't post your opinions here. He suggested that TNC not respond to you... There is NO CENSORSHIP here.
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Postby PROPERRY » Sat Sep 10, 2005 2:12 am

jrnyman28 wrote:
JourneyTroll wrote:Steve Perry wasn't kicked out of Journey? :shock:


No, he wasn't.


JourneyTroll wrote:Journey couldn't wait a mere six more months for Steve Perry to recover fully from his near death injuries.


It was NOT near death injuries. In fact, sometimes it is called an injury and sometimes it is called a disease. And there was NEVER any indication of HOW LONG it would take. That is the entire reason Journey wanted to move on without Perry...he was out 'indefinately'.

JourneyTroll wrote:Steve Augeri, who is one of the least charismatic singers in rock history.


Your opinion, but MANY people disagree!



And NiG, YES I had to respond...;)








"And there was NEVER any indication of HOW LONG it would take. That is the entire reason Journey wanted to move on without Perry...he was out indefinitely".

By YOUR OWN words jrnyman, this WOULD mean that Steve Perry WAS FIRED & REPLACED with Steve Augeri, because Journey did NOT want to wait for him, so therefore, it is TRUE that Perry did NOT just QUIT Journey!!! Journey got rid of him! :( :( :( :cry:


And speaking in general here (not saying I claim to know Perry's situation) when People get diagnosed with a serious illness OR serious injury, they don't always "GET DEFINITE ANSWERS" from the doctor, as to "how long" it will take a person to heal or get better.



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Postby PROPERRY » Sat Sep 10, 2005 2:13 am

jrnyman28 wrote:
JourneyTroll wrote:Steve Perry wasn't kicked out of Journey? :shock:


No, he wasn't.


JourneyTroll wrote:Journey couldn't wait a mere six more months for Steve Perry to recover fully from his near death injuries.


It was NOT near death injuries. In fact, sometimes it is called an injury and sometimes it is called a disease. And there was NEVER any indication of HOW LONG it would take. That is the entire reason Journey wanted to move on without Perry...he was out 'indefinately'.

JourneyTroll wrote:Steve Augeri, who is one of the least charismatic singers in rock history.


Your opinion, but MANY people disagree!



And NiG, YES I had to respond...;)








"And there was NEVER any indication of HOW LONG it would take. That is the entire reason Journey wanted to move on without Perry...he was out indefinitely".

By YOUR OWN words jrnyman, this WOULD
mean that Steve Perry WAS FIRED & REPLACED with Steve Augeri, because Journey did NOT want to wait for him, so therefore, it is TRUE that Perry did NOT just QUIT Journey!!! Journey got rid of him! :( :( :( :cry:


And speaking in general here (not saying I claim to know Perry's situation) when People get diagnosed with a serious illness OR serious injury, they don't always "GET DEFINITE ANSWERS" from the doctor, as to "how long" it will take a person to heal or get better.



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Postby jrnyman28 » Sat Sep 10, 2005 3:30 am

PROPERRY wrote:By YOUR OWN words jrnyman, this WOULD
mean that Steve Perry WAS FIRED & REPLACED with Steve Augeri, because Journey did NOT want to wait for him, so therefore, it is TRUE that Perry did NOT just QUIT Journey!!! Journey got rid of him! :( :( :( :cry:


Perry was ASKED TO COMMIT to Journey. He would not.


PROPERRY wrote:And speaking in general here (not saying I claim to know Perry's situation) when People get diagnosed with a serious illness OR serious injury, they don't always "GET DEFINITE ANSWERS" from the doctor, as to "how long" it will take a person to heal or get better.



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By Perry's own words, he had not made a decision of WHAT TO DO. (It was not a group decision) He had answers, he had not decided which route to take. Perry knew the options and knew what that would mean. He was not in contact with the band, he was not keeping them informed, he had not made a decision as to which form of recovery he would take so he culd not give Journey any idea of how long he would be out. Journey asked him to commit to Journey, Perry would not. They said they wanted to get going so they needed to know where Journey stood, Perry had no answer for them. Journey offered to tour with someone else singing and Perry could come back when ready, Perry said no. Journey decided to quit waiting since it was INDEFINATE. Perry let them, Perry quit.

Yes, Perry was replaced. But he was given every opportunity to stay. THAT is why I say Perry was not 'kicked out'.
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Postby jrnyman28 » Sat Sep 10, 2005 3:33 am

PROPERRY wrote:By YOUR OWN words jrnyman, this WOULD
mean that Steve Perry WAS FIRED & REPLACED with Steve Augeri, because Journey did NOT want to wait for him, so therefore, it is TRUE that Perry did NOT just QUIT Journey!!! Journey got rid of him! :( :( :( :cry:


Perry was ASKED TO COMMIT to Journey. He would not.


PROPERRY wrote:And speaking in general here (not saying I claim to know Perry's situation) when People get diagnosed with a serious illness OR serious injury, they don't always "GET DEFINITE ANSWERS" from the doctor, as to "how long" it will take a person to heal or get better.



Lori


By Perry's own words, he had not made a decision of WHAT TO DO. (It was not a group decision) He had answers, he had not decided which route to take. Perry knew the options and knew what that would mean. He was not in contact with the band, he was not keeping them informed, he had not made a decision as to which form of recovery he would take so he culd not give Journey any idea of how long he would be out. Journey asked him to commit to Journey, Perry would not. They said they wanted to get going so they needed to know where Journey stood, Perry had no answer for them. Journey offered to tour with someone else singing and Perry could come back when ready, Perry said no. Journey decided to quit waiting since it was INDEFINATE. Perry let them, Perry quit.

Yes, Perry was replaced. But he was given every opportunity to stay. THAT is why I say Perry was not 'kicked out'.
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Postby heardonthestreet » Sat Sep 10, 2005 4:15 am

Back to the interview for a moment.............
I can't believe that he said that He figured that Perry might feel a little uneasy or a bit awkward at the WOF.?????????????He's got to be kidding! He is the one who didn't belong there just as Deen was gracious enough to state.

He said that the band was tired of having a lead singer! What's with that?

Sorry Andrew. This guy is exactly as I figured he was, a doormat. So now he's going to try to get his old band together and figures that his association with Journey will get it some notice?
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Postby heardonthestreet » Sat Sep 10, 2005 4:19 am

Back to the interview for a moment.............
I can't believe that he said that He figured that Perry might feel a little uneasy or a bit awkward at the WOF.?????????????He's got to be kidding! He is the one who didn't belong there just as Deen was gracious enough to state.

He said that the band was tired of having a lead singer! What's with that?

Sorry Andrew. This guy is exactly as I figured he was, a doormat. So now he's going to try to get his old band together and figures that his association with Journey will get it some notice?
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Postby jrnyman28 » Sat Sep 10, 2005 4:43 am

heardonthestreet wrote: Back to the interview for a moment.............
I can't believe that he said that He figured that Perry might feel a little uneasy or a bit awkward at the WOF.?????????????He's got to be kidding!


Why WOULDN'T Perry feel uncomfortable being around A) People in a band he loved, that he would rather have nothing to do with, and B) The person who replaced him?

heardonthestreet wrote: He is the one who didn't belong there just as Deen was gracious enough to state.


That would have NOTHING to do with how comfortable everyone feels...

heardonthestreet wrote: He said that the band was tired of having a lead singer! What's with that?


No, he said the band was tired of being know as a band with a LEAD SINGER, they want to be known as a BAND!

heardonthestreet wrote: Sorry Andrew. This guy is exactly as I figured he was, a doormat.


So now you are saying he is TOO NICE!? Who CARES? His personality has won over 100's of thousands of fans. Who cares if YOU don't get it!?

heardonthestreet wrote: So now he's going to try to get his old band together and figures that his association with Journey will get it some notice?


Maybe, but what he said was he is trying to get some unreleased stuff out to the fans. Yes, there are Tall Stories fans out there. And YES, many came to be Tall Stories fans because of Journey...SO WHAT?
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sat Sep 10, 2005 5:23 am

heardonthestreet wrote:Back to the interview for a moment.............
I can't believe that he said that He figured that Perry might feel a little uneasy or a bit awkward at the WOF.?????????????He's got to be kidding!


By all accounts, Perry did feel somewhat akward at the WOF.
Purportedly at the start of the ceremony, Perry was lurking in the background before Augeri came out, brought him to the forefont and shook his hand.

heardonthestreet wrote:He is the one who didn't belong there just as Deen was gracious enough to state.


I believe Deen said that about himself (and he is entitled to feel that way). Steve Augeri has kept the band afloat since Perry cravenly deserted the band and Augeri has every right to be there.

heardonthestreet wrote:Sorry Andrew. This guy is exactly as I figured he was, a doormat.


Based on what?

heardonthestreet wrote:So now he's going to try to get his old band together and figures that his association with Journey will get it some notice?


You can make that argument about ANY artist who leaves his band and goes solo.
Besides, Augeri has hinted at releasing unreleased Tall Stories songs for years now. Tall Stories has a niche, cult audience who I'm sure would welcome the chance to hear some new tunes ( I know I would).
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Postby yak » Sat Sep 10, 2005 5:26 am

Andrew wrote:Thanks for the posts folks...glad you enjoyed the interview :)

As far as Australia - Journey and about 30 other bands would tour here tomorrow if a decent offer came through.
From personal experience and knowledge, I don't know anyone who's going to put up such an offer :(


Sorry guys, I must have missed that part along the way. Why won't anybody put up a decent offer? It would seem like a win-win situation for all.

I can empathize with you Andrew. It would be mighty awesome if you could have Journey in your homeland.

I would love to hear their take on how things are going now, since these interviews were done back in June. (no Andrew, not asking for anything, just wondering in my own mind what they think of their tour NOW, that they have been out there playing to packed venues.) As I said before, SPAC was packed, 12,000+, and anybody who knows the venue knows fans have to travel a bit just to get there.
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Facts

Postby Eric » Sat Sep 10, 2005 6:01 am

Here are the facts:

1) Journey waited for Perry for 10 years

2) Journey waited for Perry to give them a timetable for another 18 months

3) Journey has released 2.5 albums and a soundtrack since 1998

4) Perry has released nothing

5) Journey has invited Perry to join them anytime
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Re: Facts

Postby amaron » Sat Sep 10, 2005 6:25 am

Eric wrote:Here are the facts:

1) Journey waited for Perry for 10 years

2) Journey waited for Perry to give them a timetable for another 18 months

3) Journey has released 2.5 albums and a soundtrack since 1998

4) Perry has released nothing

5) Journey has invited Perry to join them anytime

Now now.. you know not to let facts get in the way of a good opinion. I bet these "people" feel that Journey would be a million selling band again if Perry came back.

Well guys, keep waiting. It's only been 7 years. He'll be back! Keep hoping! *snicker*
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Postby perryfaithful » Sat Sep 10, 2005 6:28 am

I always said Augeri should NOT give up his day job! Well........
"In Journey, all the hit songs we had were based around Steve Perry's vocals."

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Postby heardonthestreet » Sat Sep 10, 2005 6:50 am

This is the longest running lineup in Journeys history and what have they accomplished? Where is the talent from these so-called talented musicians?

With Neals guitar sound, they can give out a creditable copy of Journey's Greatest Hits and that is what has been keeping them afloat.

Didn't Perry tell the fans that the band was sh#t without the fans and didn't Ross say that most of the fans have left and what a shame it was. Adds up if you're paying attention.

Neal states, every time he's asked about touring Europe, that they just have not been asked.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sat Sep 10, 2005 7:40 am

heardonthestreet wrote:This is the longest running lineup in Journeys history and what have they accomplished? Where is the talent from these so-called talented musicians?


What do you care?
Anything they release you immediately bash.
(and for the record, they've released 2 albums, a EP, a DVD and a soundtrack single).

heardonthestreet wrote:With Neals guitar sound, they can give out a creditable copy of Journey's Greatest Hits and that is what has been keeping them afloat.


If Perry was in the band today, the majorty of people in attendance would still be there just for 'the hits'.
What artists from the 70's and 80's today do not predominantly play their hits?

heardonthestreet wrote:Didn't Perry tell the fans that the band was sh#t without the fans


Yup. Odd coming from a man who has turned his back on his fans so many times (and continues to do so to this day).

heardonthestreet wrote:and didn't Ross say that most of the fans have left and what a shame it was.


I think Jon once said that their audience isn't nearly as big as it once was.
But, what of it?
Neal and Jon didn't even know if they could tour without Perry, they are happy to be out there and the fans are more than happy to recieve them.

heardonthestreet wrote:Neal states, every time he's asked about touring Europe, that they just have not been asked.


That's not all he's stated about the Europe situation. The bandmembers are also on record stating that a certain ex-member simply refused to tour Europe back in their 80's heyday.
Gee, I wonder which reclusive, indolant ex-member that could possibly be? :roll:
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Postby Andrew » Sat Sep 10, 2005 8:19 am

heardonthestreet wrote:Sorry Andrew. This guy is exactly as I figured he was, a doormat.



If that's all you got from the interview, you are more clueless than I ever imagined.
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Postby heardonthestreet » Sat Sep 10, 2005 8:42 am

Andrew wrote:
heardonthestreet wrote:Sorry Andrew. This guy is exactly as I figured he was, a doormat.



If that's all you got from the interview, you are more clueless than I ever imagined

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You mean that he's a sweet, simpering, nice, pleasent, easy going, nice to be around guy? You know what they say about nice guys?

I'll take a unique, tempermental artist every time, especially if he is demanding and a perfectionest. It's all about the music and what demands are necessary for the end result. Long Live Classic Journey!
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Postby Fernando Ramirez » Sat Sep 10, 2005 10:15 am

heardonthestreet wrote:You know what they say about nice guys?


That they finish last? Well, this one got to join the band JOURNEY... that's pretty awesome if you ask me.
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Postby yak » Sat Sep 10, 2005 10:46 am

:) Thanks, Andrew, for your patience. "They" are back, trying...yet again.... to get you to blow a gasket and close down the place. It kills them to have to hear about Steve Augeri (great frontman, great interview, great band....Journey) and Journey's success....day after day after day..........

They get it...They really do get it....They just can't take it anymore......They must lead very boring lives, to be on the trail of somebody who wants nothing to do with any of this anymore. :lol:

:shock: Clearly none of them live in reality! :shock:
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Postby amaron » Sat Sep 10, 2005 11:48 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Yup. Odd coming from a man who has turned his back on his fans so many times (and continues to do so to this day).


Is that the same man who talked of touring at the end of the BTM? The same man who couldn't be bothered to show up at the WOF concert, while people who haven't been with the band for 20+ years could?

I've wondered something over the last 7 years since the "grand reunion".

Would it have served Journey any better to replace SP around 1990 or so instead of 1998? I am of the opinion that one of the reasons that Journey can't touch mainstream radio, while bands like Bon Jovi and Aerosmith can, is because of the fact that there was a 10 year gap between albums. Add to that the total lack of support for TBF and now no one will touch them, yet they still draw at concerts.
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Postby Argus » Sat Sep 10, 2005 11:51 am

heardonthestreet wrote:This is the longest running lineup in Journeys history and what have they accomplished? Where is the talent from these so-called talented musicians?

With Neals guitar sound, they can give out a creditable copy of Journey's Greatest Hits and that is what has been keeping them afloat.

Didn't Perry tell the fans that the band was sh#t without the fans and didn't Ross say that most of the fans have left and what a shame it was. Adds up if you're paying attention.

Neal states, every time he's asked about touring Europe, that they just have not been asked.


Actually he said to the fans that he owed them a lot of money and that the band was S*** without Herbie Herbert, the crew and production people that made them look good night after night.. but don't let the facts get in your way :roll:
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Postby PROPERRY » Sat Sep 10, 2005 12:30 pm

jrnyman28 wrote:
heardonthestreet wrote: Back to the interview for a moment.............
I can't believe that he said that He figured that Perry might feel a little uneasy or a bit awkward at the WOF.?????????????He's got to be kidding!


Why WOULDN'T Perry feel uncomfortable being around A) People in a band he loved, that he would rather have nothing to do with, and B) The person who replaced him?

heardonthestreet wrote: He is the one who didn't belong there just as Deen was gracious enough to state.


That would have NOTHING to do with how comfortable everyone feels...

heardonthestreet wrote: He said that the band was tired of having a lead singer! What's with that?


No, he said the band was tired of being know as a band with a LEAD SINGER, they want to be known as a BAND!

heardonthestreet wrote: Sorry Andrew. This guy is exactly as I figured he was, a doormat.


So now you are saying he is TOO NICE!? Who CARES? His personality has won over 100's of thousands of fans. Who cares if YOU don't get it!?

heardonthestreet wrote: So now he's going to try to get his old band together and figures that his association with Journey will get it some notice?


Maybe, but what he said was he is trying to get some unreleased stuff out to the fans. Yes, there are Tall Stories fans out there. And YES, many came to be Tall Stories fans because of Journey...SO WHAT?




Well I would not know whether Perry was uncomfortable being around his former bandmates or not, but it sure seemed to me from the speech HE gave to the fans that HE came across as quite comfortable & handled himself with such class" at the Hollywood Walk Of Fame!!!

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Postby jrnyman28 » Sat Sep 10, 2005 12:52 pm

PROPERRY wrote:Well I would not know whether Perry was uncomfortable being around his former bandmates or not, but it sure seemed to me from the speech HE gave to the fans that HE came across as quite comfortable & handled himself with such class" at the Hollywood Walk Of Fame!!!

Lori


Once he was coaxed out by none other than Mr. Augeri.
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Postby Andrew » Sat Sep 10, 2005 4:24 pm

yak wrote::) Thanks, Andrew, for your patience. "They" are back, trying...yet again....


No worries.....you just have to laugh at the comments. Entirely predictable and more or less the same old rhetoric.

Yawn.
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