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Postby JourneyTroll » Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:35 am

Rock'ndeano wrote:No..I will NEVER debate you. You are BENEATH me..


Is this the conceited Deano? I promise not to personally attack you or anyone else. I wish you would do the same. I hope you can behave like an adult on all the message boards. Usually, you add to the boards.

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Postby JourneyTroll » Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:37 am

NealIsGod wrote:Why do you want to post on a Journey board if you do not like them? I hate the Stones, but I don't feel the need to go to a Stones board and try to piss people off. I just don't get it. It's weird.


This is the only message board that allows a person to speak freely about Journey. Could you imagine trying to discuss Journey on Back Talk or Cooler like we do? Wouldn't happen.

I'm trying to state my opinion about how I feel about Journey. I'm not trying to convert anyone to my Journey beliefs.

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Postby Eric » Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:01 am

JourneyTroll,

You keep writing that you don't resort to personal attacks...but what do you call bringing up Schon's Marriage negatively and Augeri's blue collar past sarcastically????? And why would you make fun of a hard worker? Disgusting I say. And how do you know about Schon's marriages....do you obsessively follow his personal life or something? You are a real beaut...I'll tell you that. Zero respect for you here....ZERO

Also, how can you make fun of Generations not getting any airplay, when it hasn't been released here yet???? It did debut #7 in Japan by the way.

Take a gander at the attendance Journey has drawn this year.....you'd besurprised...hell, I'm surprised!
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Postby Andrew » Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:01 am

JourneyTroll wrote:Whether Perry returns to music or not is not the issue. Instead, Journey is a horrible band without Steve Perry and even worse with Steve Augeri. He may be an easy interview but most "C" to "D" level talent are.

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You sir, are a buffoon. In fact, you give buffoon's a bad name.
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Postby jrnyman28 » Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:10 am

JourneyTroll wrote: However, don't blame me that the Stones gets tons of airplay for their new album,


Interestingly enough, I just heard the other day that the Stones are having difficulty getting any airplay for the very same reasons Journey don't...They are pegged a CR band, but CR stations don't play much new materail by CR bands. So I think the word "tons" is exaggerated. The Stones iconic status will afford them some more airtime than Journey...but they have a big label backing them and they are STILL struggling to get their new material played.

JourneyTroll wrote: and their 2005-2006 world tour has been huge. I'll even admit that the Stones's ticket prices are ridiculously high and their song selection for this tour is predictable.


See again "iconic status". But I am grateful that Journey were willing and able to finally mix up their setlist this year. The Stones may be an icon, but their shows can still be boring if it is the same setlist year after year...
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Postby Rockindeano » Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:13 pm

JourneyTroll wrote:
Rock'ndeano wrote:No..I will NEVER debate you. You are BENEATH me..


Is this the conceited Deano? I promise not to personally attack you or anyone else. I wish you would do the same. I hope you can behave like an adult on all the message boards. Usually, you add to the boards.

Journeytroll


No, just the fact that I realize I have pissed off a great many people, and have decided to try to tone it down. However, I don't think one is conceited, when he knows he is better than the other...In this case, I know I am better than you. Hell, I am even going to try to mesh with the Perry-only fans..
What's your excuse?
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Postby OpeningAct » Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:10 am

Rock'ndeano wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:I'm so glad that I am not a pathetic person with no life who goes into a Journey forum to insult people who are much more talented and successful than I am. Reading those posts make me feel good about myself. Thanks for posting that stuff! Keep it up!


Well said..I cam home from work, tired and down..I read all his spewing garbage, and I feel like running for Governor next year..Thanks for putting "him" into perspective.

If this page is not full of bait bait bait....If it were up to me, I would tear up this thread....

You know, I honestly don't think he attended a show this year..Firstly, He won tix..then he sold them..then they were too expensive, then the venue sucked......and NOW, he is saying he saw a HORRIBLE band three times? It is laughable, because he is lying...there is no desputing that...

I really shouldn't say this, but musically, Journey is a Hell of lot better than that picture of the big lips, troll.....but, you are entitled to your opinion(s), no matter how wrong they are..and they are.. :D
I would have bet my balls you weren't leaving for good Deano, like you said in your long diatride a while back.
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Postby yak » Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:12 am

Andrew wrote:You sir, are a buffoon. In fact, you give buffoon's a bad name.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Ain't THAT the truth?

Welcome back Dean. Don't let 'em get to you...that's what they live for. :wink:
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Postby yak » Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:29 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:For health reasons, I cannot drink.
I did not drink at the concert and my perception was not in any ways influenced or impaired.
Augeri sounded flawless (better than the DVD)


Same here. Not that I would've if I could've. I went to the concert to experience it au naturel, so to speak. Everything NC said about the concert and Steve Augeri is 100% correct. Thery were awesome! It wasn't "The SP Show;" it was indeed a JOURNEYshow!

I rank the concert I saw an "A"

Others here have also validated what NC says, so Trollie you are obviously here to stir trouble.


NealIsGod wrote:Why do you want to post on a Journey board if you do not like them? I hate the Stones, but I don't feel the need to go to a Stones board and try to piss people off. I just don't get it.


That's because you're a decent human being.
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Postby NealIsGod » Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:43 am

yak wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:Why do you want to post on a Journey board if you do not like them? I hate the Stones, but I don't feel the need to go to a Stones board and try to piss people off. I just don't get it.


That's because you're a decent human being.


I don't think AngieKay would agree with you! :twisted:
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Postby yak » Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:12 am

NealIsGod wrote:I don't think AngieKay would agree with you! :twisted:


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Postby Soledad? » Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:32 am

I have heard pieces of the Stone's new album and it sounds awesome!

Of course, the Stones still have their original singer. They know a good thing when they have it!
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Wed Sep 14, 2005 9:03 am

Soledad? wrote:They know a good thing when they have it!


So does Journey.
Unfortunately, their most prominent lead singer (by no fault of their own) grew more and more indolent over time.
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Postby Soledad? » Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:06 am

Maybe he grew indolent from being surrounded by lesser talents.
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Postby Rockindeano » Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:18 am

Soledad? wrote:Maybe he grew indolent from being surrounded by lesser talents.


You think of that one all by yourself? I'll be sure to tell Neal when I hang with him..."Neal, you know you could have kept Perry around, but he was tired of the lesser talents in the band..He was tired of you and Jon.."

Laughable. HOTS, you can do better than this surely?
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:31 am

Soledad? wrote:Maybe he grew indolent from being surrounded by lesser talents.


Yeah, that might make sense *IF* Perry then proceeded to surround himself with superior talent, or ANY kid of talent. But he hasn't. The guy has remained rocking chair bound knitting sweaters and socks.
He is gone from the music scene by his own choosing.
Seems you've yet to come to grips with that.
Don't take ur issues w/ Perry's actions out on Neal & Jon.
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Postby Andrew » Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:48 am

Soledad? wrote:Maybe he grew indolent from being surrounded by lesser talents.


Please don't start up with BS like this.
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Postby perryfaithful » Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:56 am

Andrew wrote:
Soledad? wrote:Maybe he grew indolent from being surrounded by lesser talents.


Please don't start up with BS like this.


And the rocking chair bound stuff?
"In Journey, all the hit songs we had were based around Steve Perry's vocals."

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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:19 pm

perryfaithful wrote:And the rocking chair bound stuff?


Yeah?
What about it?
By and large, Perry has done EXTREMELY little music wise.
That IS a fact.
Deal with it.
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Postby Soledad? » Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:29 pm

Are you still talking?

So it's okay to lash out at Perry for choosing a non-musical path but it's not okay to question the musical talents of the other members of Journey?

This place reeks of hypocrisy.

PS I actually think Neal is enormously talented.
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Postby jrnyman28 » Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:37 pm

Soledad? wrote:Are you still talking?

So it's okay to lash out at Perry for choosing a non-musical path but it's not okay to question the musical talents of the other members of Journey?

This place reeks of hypocrisy.

PS I actually think Neal is enormously talented.


You weren't questioning their talent, you discounted it completely!
And "rocking-chair bound" is simply another way of saying retired...it is not lashing out!
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:38 pm

Soledad? wrote:Are you still talking?

Stop posting inane pablum and maybe I'd have a reason not to.

Soledad? wrote:So it's okay to lash out at Perry for choosing a non-musical path


Who's lashing?
You said the Rolling Stones have maintained their original lead singer and obviously knew a good thing when they see it. As if to say, Journey somehow didn't recognize or appreciate a good thing when they see it (i.e. Perry).
To which I rebutted, Journey does recognize a good thing when they see it, but unfortunately that particular person doesn't want to work anymore.
You make it sound like Journey cut ties with Perry when he was salivating and chomping at the bit to get back to work.
That's bogus.
The guy's been habitually languid dating as far back as the Frontiers tour.

Soledad? wrote:but it's not okay to question the musical talents of the other members of Journey?


You're not "questioning" anything, you're extenuating.
Perry's gone from the music scene because HE ALONE chooses to do so.
Not because Neal, Jon, or Ross are "less talented".
What kind of sense does that make?
Perry is out of the limelight by HIS OWN volition.
Your anger is misplaced.

Soledad? wrote:This place reeks of hypocrisy.


And you reek of tendentiousness.

Soledad? wrote:PS I actually think Neal is enormously talented.


That's not what you implied a few posts above.
Perhaps I should introduce you to this boards' other resident schizo, Joe.
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Postby jrnyman28 » Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:49 pm

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Soledad? wrote:Maybe he grew indolent from being surrounded by lesser talents.


Yeah, that might make sense *IF* Perry then proceeded to surround himself with superior talent, or ANY kid of talent. But he hasn't.


Very true! If Perry was 'all the talent' in Journey, why did his solo career go NOWHERE? Paul Taylor is a pretty good songwriter and keyboard player, Lincoln Brewster is an OK guitar player and I LIKE Moyes but his drumming was nothing to really take note of. Why did Perry have to write with SO MANY different writers when he was solo? In fact, I feel his solo work may have actually suffered from so many hands in the pie.
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Postby PROPERRY » Wed Sep 14, 2005 1:11 pm

I LOVE Steve Perry's solo music!!! :D

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Postby OpeningAct » Wed Sep 14, 2005 1:46 pm

Noble Cause wrote: That's not what you implied a few posts above.
Perhaps I should introduce you to this boards' other resident schizo, Joe.


Schizo???? The voices in my head are telling you to go fuck yourself Unic... :P
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Postby OpeningAct » Wed Sep 14, 2005 1:48 pm

PROPERRY wrote:I LOVE Steve Perry's solo music!!! :D

Lori
Same here Lori...but you do know most people here think he is the anti-christ.... :wink: :roll:
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:02 pm

PROPERRY wrote:I LOVE Steve Perry's solo music!!! :D


Street Talk is a good album (albeit a bit too soft & poppy for my tastes).
I always like Perry more overtly exhibiting his R & B influences.

And For The Love of Strange Medicine is a good album IF you're in the market for an album to kill yourself too.
What a largely bleak and dreary affair.
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Postby ForceInfinity » Wed Sep 14, 2005 6:48 pm

While I don't think FTLOSM is the best thing in the world...it certainly isn't bad by any stretch of the imagination. I personally liked You Better Wait, Stand Up, and the title track...

There were a few too many skip tracks on that CD though, and the voice gets a bit much....especially with Somewhere There's Hope. Personally I would've liked the album better if they would've gouged out a few of the tracks (Somewhere there's hope, Donna Please, You Better Listen) and replace them with a few tracks off the 2 +5 CD's he released alongside FTLOSM.

Just as a newcomer to the board, I dont know why there has to be all this angst against the people like myself who would support Journey unconditionally. I've seen the band live now 3 times...dont regret any of them (though I felt their performance back in 99 at Redrocks was a little weak). In Tahoe they were on fire.

Here's my perspective. I didn't really start listening to Journey in ernest until 1990...and at the time, I never thought I would see another CD much less 4 of them or so (TBF, Arrival Red 13 and Generations)...and never thought I'd see them live....but I've had that chance and I'm greatful for that opportunity regardless of who happens to sing it.

Anyways, I'm going to bed... *drops two seconds in bucket*
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Postby Andrew » Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:15 pm

Welcome Force!

Wonderful to have another sane sounding contributor with some good well balanced views.

I will agree with you on FLOSM....personally the opening track is one of my all time favourite AOR anthems....EVER!

Love the album also....yet agree that there are about 3 or 4 fillers and the pacing is way too slow. Love the tracks from the EPs also.

The new David pack track sounds like a FLOSM outtake!
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Wed Sep 14, 2005 9:04 pm

ForceInfinity wrote:Just as a newcomer to the board, I dont know why there has to be all this angst against the people like myself who would support Journey unconditionally.


I don't think any one here follows the band "unconditionally".
In fact, I've ripped them a new one countless times.
If I like something they do, I say that.
If something they do sucks, then I say that, too.
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