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Postby PROPERRY » Thu Oct 27, 2005 2:35 am

I think some of the complaining & snide remarks that are being made by some here is just "plain jealousy" that Steve Perry is getting so much positive media attention.

Oh well, too bad for those that feel that way! I think it is absolutely wonderful for Steve Perry & the fans like me who love him!!!! :D

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Postby ohsherrie » Thu Oct 27, 2005 2:57 am

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Postby Monker » Thu Oct 27, 2005 3:04 am

1.) Fans that accept Steve Augeri.
2.) Fans that do not accept Steve Augeri and choose to listen to older Journey music and be content with that.
3.) Fans that do not accept Steve Augeri and feel they need to pepper every message board, post-SP Journey thread, post-SP album review with such bullshit as "JOURNEY IS NOTHING WITHOUT STEVE PERRY!!!one!!1!eleven". They cannot accept the fact that their personal Jesus was shown the fucking door. They cannot accept the fact that Journey DARED to move on without Mr. "I never felt like part of the band."


I'm none of the above. I'm a fan of Journey, not just the lead singer or the politics of how Perry was replaced. I think there are JOURNEY fans, and there are fans of Perry and his years with Journey.

As for this thread. I hope it happens. It will be interesting to hear how hoarse he sounds and how Perry fans will jump on the bandwagon of how wonderful he sounds. That hasn't happened in a while. Of course, he can always find a reason to not do it.

Or, froy could just be making the entire thing up.
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Postby NoMoreTails » Thu Oct 27, 2005 3:05 am

ohsherrie wrote:I agree that being part of a band that isn't named for any particular member of the group(ie, Bon Jovi) .

I disagree here, Bon Jovi has been and should be viewed as a true band. If I were Sambora and the rest, I'd be pissed at how JBJ says I this and I that when the band makes an appearance. Especially as Sambora is the more talented musican imo. Van Halen has been a true band also, not just Eddie and his backup musicians and singer.
ohsherrie wrote:However, it's already been pretty much agreed here that when you're talking Steve Perry it's not quite the same as most frontmen. Journey was identified by his voice more so than is the norm for bands like that. His voice became their trademark. Once Escape came out some djs were actually saying calling them Steve Perry and Journey. I know you don't think that's right or fair, but it's the way it is.

I disagree with this as well, Perry is no more identifiable than many other singers of the era imo. Certainly no more so than Plant, Tyler, Jagger, Rodgers, Bon Scott, Brian Johnson, this could go on all day. Many singers, even some with less talent, had distincitive voices that were just as unique and that are just as synonymous with the name of the band they sang for. I've heard djs identify bands as
"insert lead singers name here and so and so..." many, many times. This is not an honor reserved for His Royal Highness Perry. For example, Lou Gramm and Foreigner, this was done to death.
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Re: Steve Perry is going to sing

Postby froy » Thu Oct 27, 2005 3:34 am

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froy wrote:Chicago news say's Perry has said if The Sox clinch he is going to sing Don't Stop at the Parade , WOW Perry is finally going to sing in public and in my back yard . Im going with the video camera




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Froy, is there a link for this article?


It was on the morning news no article
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Postby jrnyman28 » Thu Oct 27, 2005 3:58 am

Well I will be excited to hear Perry sing the song at the parade.
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Postby heardonthestreet » Thu Oct 27, 2005 4:22 am

jrnyman28 wrote:Well I will be excited to hear Perry sing the song at the parade.


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If it happens, I'm wondering, will he sing it unaccompanied or, OR, OMG?
...............Another one of my random thoughts. :shock:
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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Oct 27, 2005 4:30 am

He would not do it unadorned.
Nor will he do it accompanied by the guitar or Neal Schon and keyboard of Jonathan Cain.
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Postby sadie65 » Thu Oct 27, 2005 4:35 am

Red13JoePa wrote:He would not do it unadorned.
Nor will he do it accompanied by the guitar or Neal Schon and keyboard of Jonathan Cain.


That's kind of what I was asking. How will he sing this song should any of this come to pass? Who would back him? A Capella? Not a song for that, at least not in my opinion.
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Postby heardonthestreet » Thu Oct 27, 2005 4:43 am

sadie65 wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:He would not do it unadorned.
Nor will he do it accompanied by the guitar or Neal Schon and keyboard of Jonathan Cain.


That's kind of what I was asking. How will he sing this song should any of this come to pass? Who would back him? A Capella? Not a song for that, at least not in my opinion.


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Okay, maybe he can get Carlo Santana. :wink:
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Postby EightyRock » Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:26 am

Hey Froy, what radio station did you hear this on?
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Postby ohsherrie » Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:20 am

Well NoMoreTails, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this. Neither of us is going to change the other's opinion so there's no point in arguing it to death. :)
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Postby sadie65 » Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:26 am

ohsherrie wrote:Well NoMoreTails, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this. Neither of us is going to change the other's opinion so there's no point in arguing it to death. :)


Argue? Here? Never. All those previous threads that went on for pages...those weren't arguments...they were creative,colorful dialogues right? (Insert humor here)
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Postby NoMoreTails » Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:32 am

ohsherrie wrote:Well NoMoreTails, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this. Neither of us is going to change the other's opinion so there's no point in arguing it to death. :)


How can you possibly say a song belongs to the singer in a band instead of the band itself? If the album is re-released and it says
5T3V3 93RRY
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I'll agree with you.
I thought of all the Perryheads I've ever heard from, there'd be a possiblity of reasoning with you.
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Postby froy » Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:41 am

EightyRock wrote:Hey Froy, what radio station did you hear this on?


My sister saw it on ABC 7 news not a radio station.
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Postby Greg » Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:52 am

Getting away from the Anti-Pro squabble, I'm sure this means that Steve Perry would have to pay a percentage of royalities to Neal and Jon if he does perform Don't Stop Believin? From what I had read from Herbie Herbert, Perry gets royalities everytime the band performs songs in concert. Which I'm not sure how much I believe from that interview, but that's a different topic.

So, will Perry have a band to sing this with him, canned music, or without? Personally, I hope Perry goes through with this. I hope this inspires him to make a record. I'd be first in line to buy it!
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Postby ohsherrie » Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:54 am

sadie65 wrote:
Argue? Here? Never. All those previous threads that went on for pages...those weren't arguments...they were creative,colorful dialogues right? (Insert humor here)


Oh yes, we've had our auguments. :lol: I'm just saying there's no more point to this particular one.


NoMoreTails wrote:How can you possibly say a song belongs to the singer in a band instead of the band itself? If the album is re-released and it says
5T3VE 93RRY
ESC4P3
I'll agree with you.
I thought of all the Perryheads I've ever heard from, there'd be a possiblity of reasoning with you.


I didn't say the song belonged to him NMT. All I said was that he has as much right to sing it as the band does. Someone (Amaron I think) asked why some people didn't like the band singing it but thought it was OK for Steve to do so. My answer was that it was because Steve was the original artist who sang it. That's all I said about it, it was someone else who brought up the issue of ownership. I don't think it matters who technically owns it or wrote it. I just think he has the right to sing it because his is the voice that made it a hit. I also didn't say the band didn't have the right to perform the song.
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Postby froy » Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:25 am

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No royalties no money made
I think Perry may lyp sync this song as well
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Postby ohsherrie » Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:33 am

froy wrote:[


No royalties no money made
I think Perry may lyp sync this song as well


Hi Froy, please clarify for me, who gets no money? The band gets none if he sings, or he gets none when the band sings it, or both?

Surely you don't mean he would lipsync to the song as it's recorded now. I mean, surely he would rerecord it as he currently sings. That wouldn't be so unusual in a parade environment, most people do.
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Postby jrnyman28 » Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:47 am

Actually, I believe ANYONE can sing a song live at ANY time without paying royalties. Royalties only occur when the product is sold retail.

Personally, I see Perry performing it KARAOKE. There are plenty of good karaoke systems and versions of the song that have all the backing and just no voice.
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Postby ohsherrie » Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:24 am

jrnyman28 wrote:Actually, I believe ANYONE can sing a song live at ANY time without paying royalties. Royalties only occur when the product is sold retail.

Personally, I see Perry performing it KARAOKE. There are plenty of good karaoke systems and versions of the song that have all the backing and just no voice.


Free just posted that the Sun says he won't be singing. I don't know what to believe. :(
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Postby jrnyman28 » Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:27 am

Sherrie, do you really think Free is serious?
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Postby Greg » Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:42 am

jrnyman28 wrote:Actually, I believe ANYONE can sing a song live at ANY time without paying royalties. Royalties only occur when the product is sold retail.

Personally, I see Perry performing it KARAOKE. There are plenty of good karaoke systems and versions of the song that have all the backing and just no voice.


So what was this big thing in Herbie's interview about Perry signing something which means he gets paid and the band does all the work? That doesn't make any sense to me. I figured he meant the band peforming the songs live.
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Postby jrnyman28 » Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:46 am

There may be a contract that splits all earnings 6 ways. But I don't think that has anything to do with royalties from performing songs live. My undeerstanding is that, unless there is a retail sale from the performance, than it is some sort of 'public domain' or something. You don't pay everytime you sing "Happy Birthday", or anytime you sing karaoke. Any time a band covers a song in concert they don't have to pay the original artist. Journey did not have to pay Elvis' estate for singing Jailhouse Rock on the ROR tour.
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Postby Greg » Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:52 am

But, if Journey comes out with a live dvd or cd of the concert, then Perry gets money, correct???
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Postby NoMoreTails » Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:26 am

ohsherrie wrote:I didn't say the song belonged to him NMT. All I said was that he has as much right to sing it as the band does. Someone (Amaron I think) asked why some people didn't like the band singing it but thought it was OK for Steve to do so. My answer was that it was because Steve was the original artist who sang it. That's all I said about it, it was someone else who brought up the issue of ownership. I don't think it matters who technically owns it or wrote it. I just think he has the right to sing it because his is the voice that made it a hit. I also didn't say the band didn't have the right to perform the song.


My appologies for misunderstanding, but I felt the post....

That's really sort of easy to figure out Amaron, at least it is for me. I guess it depends on your point of view, but to me Steve Perry is the original artist who sang the song

.... implied that you felt DSB was a Perry song rather than a Journey song. To me, Journey, of which Perry was a part, is the artist that performed the song.
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Postby Rockindeano » Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:32 am

You all are really dumbfounding...You really think this guy will actually sing the entire song? He will, get up there, and gruffly say, Chicago! to about 45 seconds of applause...Don't Stop believin"..to more applause..He isn't going to sing...fuck no.

And, Perry loons, what if(and there's a good chance), he sounds awful? Are you going to accept the ridicule and heat that I at least will bring full force right after the parade?

I can't wait..I am preparing my tirade now..

This whole thing makes me fucking sick to be a Journey fan......
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Postby Rockindeano » Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:37 am

ohsherrie wrote:
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Really amusing eh NIG? You rat bastard.
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Postby froy » Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:41 am

Rock'ndeano wrote:
OpeningAct wrote:Well the Sox are up 3 games to none so it looks like it's going to happen... :wink:


Hey genius, ask the Yankees if they know what 3-0 means. :roll:


Very true
Last year the Yanks were up 3 zip and went home after 4 straight
Was not the world series though
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Postby froy » Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:43 am

ohsherrie wrote:
froy wrote:[


No royalties no money made
I think Perry may lyp sync this song as well


Hi Froy, please clarify for me, who gets no money? The band gets none if he sings, or he gets none when the band sings it, or both?


Sure
Nobody gets money because nobody made money
The song is not being used for profit.
So no payments made.


Surely you don't mean he would lipsync to the song as it's recorded now. I mean, surely he would rerecord it as he currently sings. That wouldn't be so unusual in a parade environment, most people do.


I bet they play the song from 81 and Perry just leads the crowd in the song. No way is he going to sing this without a band,
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