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Postby SusieP » Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:28 pm

Oh dear, if this is true, it doesn't bode well for the guy, does it?
What a shame.

Maybe this info was 'leaked' deliberately knowing the 'one fan' may report it onto an internet forum.

I really do think an official statement from the Band is overdue on this.

Thanks for posting the info jrnysc.
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Postby perryfaithful » Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:46 pm

SusieP wrote:
I really do think an official statement from the Band is overdue on this.


I think it is absolutely outrageous! Never a fan of Augeri but I feel for him AND his fans! Perhaps the embarrassment of the whole situation is keeping him personally from going directly to his fan base. As for his "employer," offering information?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Postby Citygirl » Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:49 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


What's so funny about it?
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Postby geminix » Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:18 am

Why should they post an "official statement" about Steve Augeri's health? Nobody is gonna believe it anyway.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:36 am

Anyone else know of the mystery Hawaii show Deano talks about? I've never seen word of it anywhere else ( Before you put me in the goddam Boston Crab, Deano, I'm not saying it didn't happen).

As for the topic at hand, I hope they don't compound problems by rushing SA back....you have the luxury of JSS now, at least finish the tour w/ him.
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Postby SusieP » Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:41 am

geminix wrote:Why should they post an "official statement" about Steve Augeri's health? Nobody is gonna believe it anyway.



Good point. :)


I'd just like to know what's happening to him - purely because I am nosey. :)
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Postby jrnysc » Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:47 am

SusieP wrote:
geminix wrote:Why should they post an "official statement" about Steve Augeri's health? Nobody is gonna believe it anyway.



Good point. :)


I'd just like to know what's happening to him - purely because I am nosey. :)


Honest too!! :lol:
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Postby FormerJrnyFan » Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:50 am

Red13JoePa wrote:Anyone else know of the mystery Hawaii show Deano talks about? I've never seen word of it anywhere else ( Before you put me in the goddam Boston Crab, Deano, I'm not saying it didn't happen).

As for the topic at hand, I hope they don't compound problems by rushing SA back....you have the luxury of JSS now, at least finish the tour w/ him.


I remember reading it was a private gig - 1,500 people -- Hewlett Packard, I think.
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Postby cetera » Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:51 am

journeygal wrote:I remember reading it was a private gig - 1,500 people -- Hewlett Packard, I think.


Which says to me $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ :wink:

Why do a gig in Chile when you can cancel and earn HUGE $$$ for a luxury private gig...
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Postby heardonthestreet » Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:10 am

I still find it hard to believe that Augeri would go along with any deception and still present himself as such a gent to his fans. He would just have too much to lose to take that chanch. His time spent within the history of Journey would be jeopardized. I say that he'll have an explanation for everything.
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Postby A Fire Inside » Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:44 am

cetera wrote:Which says to me $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ :wink:

Why do a gig in Chile when you can cancel and earn HUGE $$$ for a luxury private gig...

Yet this goes back to what I asked a page ago and no one answered:

WHY cancel the show in Chile? It's not like Hawaii was the next or same day. They were SIX DAYS APART! It's not like they couldn't have done both. It's not like they couldn't have done the "tapegate" thing in Chile just like they already allegedly been doing since last year. I can see no reason why they had to fake illness to get out of that gig.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:45 am

Yep if was all tapes (all/most of the time) WHY the need to pull the plug on Chile?
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Postby Citygirl » Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:49 am

That brings us back to the "maybe it wasn't tapes" scenario.
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Postby *Laura » Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:51 am

A Fire Inside wrote:WHY cancel the show in Chile? It's not like Hawaii was the next or same day. They were SIX DAYS APART! It's not like they couldn't have done both. It's not like they couldn't have done the "tapegate" thing in Chile just like they already allegedly been doing since last year. I can see no reason why they had to fake illness to get out of that gig.


From what's been said,the Chile show was supposed to be filmed...
The cameras are...nosy,you know?
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Postby Red13JoePa » Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:51 am

Citygirl wrote:That brings us back to the "maybe it wasn't tapes" scenario.


Some people will have none of that, CG.
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Postby jrnyman28 » Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:55 am

There is no official word because they do not know yet.
Elson said Steve had possibly undergone a lung biopsy, and possibly has rheumatoid arthritis.'
Elson siad Steve is going to another specialist...another opinion.
Until Steve KNOWS what is wrong, there will be no official statement.




As for the Chile/Hawaii thing: The band cancelled Chile stating Steve had pneumonia. (I am not sure that is true, even Pit said it was something worse). Journey probably cancelled the show because of the extent of travelling it would take (definately longer than going to Hawaii) and it was to be televised and streamed. However, Steve could have been on the tail end of the "pneumonia" and felt it was best to give himself a little more time off. Another week or so (I do not recall it being exactly 7 days late) and he would have been iin even better shape AND he would have less travelling to endure.
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Postby WalrusOct9 » Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:57 am

Shania wrote:
From what's been said,the Chile show was supposed to be filmed...
The cameras are...nosy,you know?



That's possible. A LOT of shows in South America are filmed and broadcast on TV, even bands you'd think would be damn near impossible to get permission to air...Guns N' Roses, U2, Oasis, the Stones. I've got 5 or 6 DVD's of U2 shows from South America, and a show the Stones played there in February. I'm not sure why this is, but that might actually be a good guess as to why that show got cancelled.
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Postby A Fire Inside » Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:02 am

WalrusOct9 wrote:
Shania wrote:From what's been said,the Chile show was supposed to be filmed...
The cameras are...nosy,you know?

That's possible. A LOT of shows in South America are filmed and broadcast on TV, even bands you'd think would be damn near impossible to get permission to air...Guns N' Roses, U2, Oasis, the Stones. I've got 5 or 6 DVD's of U2 shows from South America, and a show the Stones played there in February. I'm not sure why this is, but that might actually be a good guess as to why that show got cancelled.

Ok, so considering that... why then did they cancel a couple of days before the show? Why book the gig in the first place if they KNEW they had been using tapes since last year, so they would also have to use them in Chile? The venue could not have said, "BTW, we're taping this" a week before the show. They had to know way in advance... and frankly, I'm inclined to believe that he was on the tail end of being sick because nothing else explains it to me.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:13 am

Another discrepency....
ya know going into booking it may be subject to taping. If you're a band trying to keep a lid on hexagonal conspiracy, why even book it?
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Postby Citygirl » Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:15 am

:lol:

And you still believe he mimes to a tape of his own voice?
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Postby cetera » Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:23 am

jrnyman28 wrote:Steve could have been on the tail end of the "pneumonia" and felt it was best to give himself a little more time off. Another week or so (I do not recall it being exactly 7 days late) and he would have been iin even better shape AND he would have less travelling to endure.


Makes sense, especially with a high paying corporate gig beckoning....
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Postby jrnyman28 » Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:54 am

A Fire Inside wrote:Ok, so considering that... why then did they cancel a couple of days before the show? Why book the gig in the first place if they KNEW they had been using tapes since last year, so they would also have to use them in Chile? The venue could not have said, "BTW, we're taping this" a week before the show. They had to know way in advance... and frankly, I'm inclined to believe that he was on the tail end of being sick because nothing else explains it to me.


Journey was hoping that Steve's condition would be better by the time of the show. They waited up to the last minute to cancel the show in the hopes of being able to carry on (and I would like to think they were hoping Steve would be good to go without tapes when they booked the gig.)

As soon as I heard about the Chile gig, I questioned whether it was a good idea to put Steve back on stage so soon after the last tour and the noticeable affect it had on him.
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Postby A Fire Inside » Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:59 am

So you're saying they booked a gig in Chile knowing that they would be filmed but just kind of hoping maybe they wouldn't have to lip-synch this particular show? Seems like such a poor decision.

Still going with pneumonia here, personally.

By the way, these explanations all discredit the "they just wanted to go to Hawaii instead" idea Dean has been talking about. I think that's a crazy excuse.
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Postby whocares » Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:03 am

No one knows but the band and fat chance they'll be talking anytime soon. I love that you can tell which side of the fence most people are on, only a few are in the middle ground. Again, a bunch of speculation and people who think they know stuff they don't. but maybe that's the fun of it all.

I can say I talked to Steve Perry yesterday on the phone and someone will run with the post, and before long it will be told and read so much, that people will believe it's true.
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Postby mnmsjrny » Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:03 am

jrnyman28 wrote:There is no official word because they do not know yet.
Elson said Steve had possibly undergone a lung biopsy, and possibly has rheumatoid arthritis.'
Elson siad Steve is going to another specialist...another opinion.
Until Steve KNOWS what is wrong, there will be no official statement.

As for the Chile/Hawaii thing: The band cancelled Chile stating Steve had pneumonia. (I am not sure that is true, even Pit said it was something worse). Journey probably cancelled the show because of the extent of travelling it would take (definately longer than going to Hawaii) and it was to be televised and streamed. However, Steve could have been on the tail end of the "pneumonia" and felt it was best to give himself a little more time off. Another week or so (I do not recall it being exactly 7 days late) and he would have been iin even better shape AND he would have less travelling to endure.


Wow... probably the most rational post I've seen. The way some people are demanding that we be told right now! what is wrong with Steve, you'd think it was a matter of National Security! He's a singer in a rock band, nothing more folks. This spring I had tickets for Areosmith/Lenny Kravitz and the show was initially postponed because "a band member is ill." That was the entire reason we got for the show being postponed. It wasn't until the postponed show was *cancelled* several weeks later that we learned it was Steven Tyler who was ill and required throat surgery. And while it may be out there somewhere that I haven't seen, as far as I know there's been no explanation WHY he needed throat surgery or what it was for. Why on earth would the case be any different for Steve Augeri?? He's sick, they don't know why. Or maybe they do, but until treatment is determined don't want to start rumors. Lord knows, 20 years later there are people who still think Steve Perry had throat cancer!

I really love watching people dreaming up great big conspiracies -- they're so entertaining. Of course the absolute best thing about conspiracy theories is that they are virtually impossible to disprove because anyone with evidence to the contrary is accused of being part of or buying into the conspiracy! Circular logic is just so much fun! :D

Give it time, if there's anything worth knowing we'll know it. Until then hope that the situation isn't as severe as the rumors are making it seem, because it's not about the fans -- it's about the health, livelihood, and life of another human being.
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Postby elagpa » Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:28 am

WalrusOct9 wrote:
Shania wrote:
From what's been said,the Chile show was supposed to be filmed...
The cameras are...nosy,you know?



That's possible. A LOT of shows in South America are filmed and broadcast on TV, even bands you'd think would be damn near impossible to get permission to air...Guns N' Roses, U2, Oasis, the Stones. I've got 5 or 6 DVD's of U2 shows from South America, and a show the Stones played there in February. I'm not sure why this is, but that might actually be a good guess as to why that show got cancelled.


The Viña del Mar Festival on Chile it's always televised to many countries in South America and Mexico I think. We lost a 2006 performance on Video :(
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Postby MCC620 » Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:31 am

Chile 2/25/06 Hawaii 3/8/06 = 10 days. He may not have been well enough to leave the country. There are some countries that you can't fly into or out of without a clean bill of health. I'm *just* saying.

I would imagine that Steve Augeri's medical status is on a need to know basis...and I as a fan, I might not rank as high up as say, his family and band mates. But hey, some people here might rate higher than me. :roll:

Give the guy a rest already............
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Postby whocares » Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:42 am

MCC620 wrote:Chile 2/25/06 Hawaii 3/8/06 = 10 days. He may not have been well enough to leave the country. There are some countries that you can't fly into or out of without a clean bill of health. I'm *just* saying.

I would imagine that Steve Augeri's medical status is on a need to know basis...and I as a fan, I might not rank as high up as say, his family and band mates. But hey, some people here might rate higher than me. :roll:

Give the guy a rest already............


While that's true, it's For a U.S. Citizen flying out of the US, the U.S. doesn't care. and frankly neither does Chile. I know Flight rules between the two countries, as I've been there. Coming back to the States is more difficult IF someone is extremely sick, but even someone with Malaria can get back in, if they are a citizen of the U.S. The CDC is very concerned about citizens of other countries oming here sickly though.
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Postby Rock Fn » Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:43 am

Give the guy a rest already............[/quote]

Don't worry, he has plenty of time to rest. :lol:
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Postby MCC620 » Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:49 am

whocares wrote:
MCC620 wrote:Chile 2/25/06 Hawaii 3/8/06 = 10 days. He may not have been well enough to leave the country. There are some countries that you can't fly into or out of without a clean bill of health. I'm *just* saying.

I would imagine that Steve Augeri's medical status is on a need to know basis...and I as a fan, I might not rank as high up as say, his family and band mates. But hey, some people here might rate higher than me. :roll:

Give the guy a rest already............


While that's true, it's For a U.S. Citizen flying out of the US, the U.S. doesn't care. and frankly neither does Chile. I know Flight rules between the two countries, as I've been there. Coming back to the States is more difficult IF someone is extremely sick, but even someone with Malaria can get back in, if they are a citizen of the U.S. The CDC is very concerned about citizens of other countries oming here sickly though.


Thanks for clarifying that Chile isn't one of those countries. :) Maybe it was just as simple as not getting clearance from his doctor for a 21 hour flight, out of the country, as opposed to 10 days later flying several hours to another state. As I said, NTKB
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