Fan says he talked to Neal and the band seems very happy.

[Rockindeano]

I think Neal feeling good about the band is great, but next month or so, the road is gonna get rough and rocky..again.

Spill it.

No no no no! Last time you told him that, all hell broke loose for 3 months!

I am NEVER spilling anything here again! Promise.

[Citygirl]

I don't think Cain's gonna want out though. Unless they decided to kick him cos they want Soul Sirkus with the Journey name. But then that would mean kicking Ross and all.

[conversationpc]

I am NEVER spilling anything here again! Promise.

Until you get plastered again?

[NealIsGod]

I am NEVER spilling anything here again! Promise.

Then why keep dropping hints?

[cetera]

I am NEVER spilling anything here again! Promise.

Then why keep dropping hints?

Becaue it makes him look important

[Rockindeano]

I was just trying to prepare you for what is to come, that's all.

I am going back to the good ol days..Remember those, NIG? Hammering on Loons, and BT ers, and telling gay jokes..It was all good.

[NealIsGod]

I was just trying to prepare you for what is to come, that's all.

I am going back to the good ol days..Remember those, NIG? Hammering on Loons, and BT ers, and telling gay jokes..It was all good.

Yeah, the good ole days. Before tapegate turned brother against brother. The Civil War of Journeyville.

[Liz22562]

Why would you hammer on the loons when they all 'had your back' on your blog site and here?

[Rockindeano]

So are you going to accept my peace proposition, or habour ill will?

[Rockindeano]

I don't care who had my back, Liz. I know what happened, and those who choose to agree, agree, and those who didn't don't.

I think it's safe to say, my delivery was awful, BUT, I was right.

Let's move on.

[Liz22562]

Exactly.......no shock there at all.

[NealIsGod]

So are you going to accept my peace proposition, or habour ill will?

Life's too short to hold grudges. But I have to say, that was the craziest time ever.

[Red13JoePa]

Exactly.......no shock there at all.

[Red13JoePa]

Neal and Jeff have that classic Perry/Schon dynamic.
I don't think it's so much a case of them taking time out to write, as they simply can't help it.

will the Cain influence make it Journey enough for those that thought SS had no melody...

Cain and oddly enough Valory's continued presence in the band will never have been more crucial than the next album if in fact JSS is fronting Journey for it.

[NealIsGod]

Cain and oddly enough Valory's continued presence in the band will never have been more crucial than the next album if in fact JSS is fronting Journey for it.

Why is Valory's presence important? Not to diss Ross, just wondering what you're thinking is.

[Citygirl]

Exactly. If one of them goes it really will turn into Soul Sirkus with the Journey name.

[NealIsGod]

Exactly. If one of them goes it really will turn into Soul Sirkus with the Journey name.

Oh, I am on board now.

[Citygirl]

I'm not sure if Red was thinking the same as me, but before Deen had to quit cos he wasn't well... this line-up of Journey really has 3/4 of Soul Sirkus in it.

The fact that Jonathan wrote most of the hits and has always been one of the main songwriters in Journey would mean the sound would change too much if he left. As for Ross, he doesn't do as much writing but has been there since the start... so it could still make quite a difference if Ross went.

[Red13JoePa]

Cain and oddly enough Valory's continued presence in the band will never have been more crucial than the next album if in fact JSS is fronting Journey for it.

Why is Valory's presence important? Not to diss Ross, just wondering what you're thinking is.

Well because Ross by default and Cain on merit would be the gatekeepers of the Journey-only sound. You got the Jrny faction of the band in Cain/Valory the bridges with Neal and Deen and the SS faction in JSS. So in my mind it's critical to have the longtime journey-only guys still there.

[Eric]

They could be a 4 piecer very easily. JSS can play the keys some and Deen-o can sing some

[Red13JoePa]

They could be a 4 piecer very easily. JSS can play the keys some and Deen-o can sing some

Cain out? No way.

Uh uh.

[fred_journeyman]

I am going back to the good ol days..Remember those, NIG? Hammering on Loons, and BT ers, and telling gay jokes..It was all good.

Excellent. I'm going for the popcorn now...

[NealIsGod]

I am going back to the good ol days..Remember those, NIG? Hammering on Loons, and BT ers, and telling gay jokes..It was all good.

Excellent. I'm going for the popcorn now...

I don't know, once you crack the stone, there's no going back.

[The_Noble_Cause]

You got the Jrny faction of the band in Cain/Valory the bridges with Neal and Deen and the SS faction in JSS.

Then how do you account for the classic Journey sound found on Soto's "Believe in Me"?
SS sounded like hard rock because that's what they (Soto/Schon) were aiming for.
Likewise, if they set out to do a Journey record, I'm sure it will sound like a Journey record.

[The_Noble_Cause]

SS had no melody? Ridiculous.

Agreed.
I think the SS record is a stronger record overall than Generations.
Generations has a few high points, but a few clunkers, as well.
Every track on SS, on the other hand, is solid.

[conversationpc]

You got the Jrny faction of the band in Cain/Valory the bridges with Neal and Deen and the SS faction in JSS.

Then how do you account for the classic Journey sound found on Soto's "Believe in Me"?
SS sounded like hard rock because that's what they (Soto/Schon) were aiming for.
Likewise, if they set out to do a Journey record, I'm sure it will sound like a Journey record.

I think he's just referring to the makeup of the band, personnel-wise, not sound-wise. Anyway, I don't think most Journey fans are going to notice much of a difference really, regardless of if this lineup stays intact or if anyone else leaves.

Agreed.
I think the SS record is a stronger record overall than Generations.
Generations has a few high points, but a few clunkers, as well.
Every track on SS, on the other hand, is solid.

Can't disagree there. I love "World Play", though I think the first half of that album is much more solid than the latter half...Kinda the oppposite of "Generations" now that I think of it.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Can't disagree there. I love "World Play", though I think the first half of that album is much more solid than the latter half...Kinda the oppposite of "Generations" now that I think of it.

Totally. I love a few select "Generations" tracks much more than anything on SS, BUT, in terms of overall consistency, SS is simply the stronger record.
Every track features a great hook, whereas, "Generations" frustratingly runs the gamut from brilliant to embarassing.

[conversationpc]

Totally. I love a few select "Generations" tracks much more than anything on SS, BUT, in terms of overall consistency, SS is simply the stronger record.
Every track features a great hook, whereas, "Generations" frustratingly runs the gamut from brilliant to embarassing.

Agreed again...There are three or four tunes on "Generations" that I would've kicked to the curb.

Dang! After that thread a few days ago....Feel the love, man!

[Red13JoePa]

You got the Jrny faction of the band in Cain/Valory the bridges with Neal and Deen and the SS faction in JSS.

Then how do you account for the classic Journey sound found on Soto's "Believe in Me"?
SS sounded like hard rock because that's what they (Soto/Schon) were aiming for.
Likewise, if they set out to do a Journey record, I'm sure it will sound like a Journey record.

Haven't heard BIM, but I'm not definatelyconcerned about JSS' ability to fit into the band, either soundwise.
I just like the thought of having the Journey-only solidarity of Cain/Valory to offsent any potential of getting too SSirkusy, what with a different-sounding singer who was in that band w/ neal and deen.

[conversationpc]

Haven't heard BIM, but I'm not definatelyconcerned about JSS' ability to fit into the band, either soundwise. I just like the thought of having the Journey-only solidarity of Cain/Valory to offsent any potential of getting too SSirkusy, what with a different-sounding singer who was in that band w/ neal and deen.

Well, if they stick together and produce anything like "Believe in Me", then it may not matter. It doesn't sound exactly like classic Journey to me, but close enough.